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Darken Ages
Stoned Kloned Killers
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:30:00 -
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this is why ccp will keep failing,new people come on to try dust and is chased off by these old corps who pub stomp noobs then brag about, ccp needs to make a server for. noobs and one for pro's if not this game will not make it by the end of the year.I see there hasnt even been a change in how many people play in a year still only the same 3000 people play this thank god ccp is to stupid to make a ps4 version |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
1137
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:32:00 -
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uwotm8
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Feb. 10th
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2657
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:35:00 -
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InB4butthurtmuch?
I GÖú Kittens.
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Azura Sakura
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
596
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:35:00 -
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Darken Ages wrote:this is why ccp will keep failing,new people come on to try dust and is chased off by these old corps who pub stomp noobs then brag about, ccp needs to make a server for. noobs and one for pro's if not this game will not make it by the end of the year.I see there hasnt even been a change in how many people play in a year still only the same 3000 people play this thank god ccp is to stupid to make a ps4 version
inb4 dust is a hard game (lol)
But really, if they want more people to spend money and enjoy this game. Need more noob friendly environment i.e. militia-std only or PvE. |
Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
703
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:39:00 -
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PVE will make this game so much better for new players. somewhere where they need not fear being wiped out instantly.
Best PVE idea I've seen.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
6896
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:42:00 -
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Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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PO0KY
Virtual Syndicate
312
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:43:00 -
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CCP Logibros locking senses were tingled as soon as you made this post. |
COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:47:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online.
Shhh, the closed minded, short sighted doom and gloom scrubs (aka seemingly 95% of the forum community) won't be able to comprehend this.
Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL
Love the Art of War
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Debacle Nano
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
721
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:47:00 -
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It was not a walk through the park back then either. Small missile turrets had the blast radius of a football field, 1 tank on the field was worse than it is now, and fused locus grenade scouts were a big thing.
Closed beta anyone?
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Azura Sakura
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
597
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:47:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online.
This is true but I don't you can compare Dust to EvE. Since EvE will always be on the PC and Dust is on the ps3 for now and ps4 is out. |
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The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
114
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:48:00 -
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Darken Ages wrote:this is why ccp will keep failing,new people come on to try dust and is chased off by these old corps who pub stomp noobs then brag about, ccp needs to make a server for. noobs and one for pro's if not this game will not make it by the end of the year.I see there hasnt even been a change in how many people play in a year still only the same 3000 people play this thank god ccp is to stupid to make a ps4 version
does COD have servers for new players and vets? |
Sarus Rambo
Legion of Seven
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:52:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online.
You do realize EvE starts new players out in highsec, where no one is going to kill them. Sure its possible to, but no one would because newbs don't have anything valuable. Dust throws you to the wolves almost immediately. The equivalent in EvE would be to set up starting systems as a single highsec system in the middle of null security space.
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Aaroniero d'Lioncourt
0uter.Heaven
393
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:02:00 -
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Darken Ages wrote:this is why ccp will keep failing,new people come on to try dust and is chased off by these old corps who pub stomp noobs then brag about, ccp needs to make a server for. noobs and one for pro's if not this game will not make it by the end of the year.I see there hasnt even been a change in how many people play in a year still only the same 3000 people play this thank god ccp is to stupid to make a ps4 version
You think this game is for our generation to enjoy? CCP plans ahead kk. It's for everyone's grandkids (sorry impotent people)
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
952
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:02:00 -
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We need PVE
Start new players to PVE to start
After a while allow them to join academy matches
After a certain amount of matches and sp earned (~25 matches and 5mil SP) move them to normal MP |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1263
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:04:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online.
Hmm, let me see. I think now I will go travel around, get into some other stuff. Maybe I'd pick a fight. Hmm. Nope. Nope. Yeah, no I can only sit in a little room and hit a circle button to join a battle and then run around shooting in a fishbowl again and again and again.
No, nothing like EVE.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Sarus Rambo
Legion of Seven
10
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:05:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Darken Ages wrote:this is why ccp will keep failing,new people come on to try dust and is chased off by these old corps who pub stomp noobs then brag about, ccp needs to make a server for. noobs and one for pro's if not this game will not make it by the end of the year.I see there hasnt even been a change in how many people play in a year still only the same 3000 people play this thank god ccp is to stupid to make a ps4 version does COD have servers for new players and vets?
COD doesn't have straight up more powerful items either. You can mod your person with a different weapon but you can still get destroyed by some new guy without that weapon unlocked. Here you get more powerful weapons, not just different weapons. You also get SP which directly upgrades your mercenary beyond just unlocking more weapons would do. It is an RPG buddy, and you don't see other RPGs throwing level 25s in with level 1s and telling them to fight.
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Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
812
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:14:00 -
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I do not think CCP is stupid.
I do think that they need to raise the cap for all new players. No cap till 5 mil SP. Double cap till 10 mil SP. Same cap as everyone else after 10 mil SP.
Faction Channels for FW Staging
PIE Ground Control | Caldari Hierarchy | Turalyon | Chosen Matari
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Onesimus Tarsus
1229
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:22:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online. Shhh, the closed minded, short sighted doom and gloom scrubs (aka seemingly 95% of the forum community) won't be able to comprehend this.
What's incomprehensible is that CCP seemingly forgot all thelessons of EvE before making DUST.
I'm recruiting only the hardest hard-core-rers out there who are in here.
cc2.27.13
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Rinzler XVIII
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:36:00 -
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Yeap they are
They wont give us a full infantry Respec |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
1869
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:38:00 -
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Been a long time since we saw a Doomberry around.
My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Cat Merc, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
555
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:45:00 -
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Darken Ages wrote:this is why ccp will keep failing,new people come on to try dust and is chased off by these old corps who pub stomp noobs then brag about, ccp needs to make a server for. noobs and one for pro's if not this game will not make it by the end of the year.I see there hasnt even been a change in how many people play in a year still only the same 3000 people play this thank god ccp is to stupid to make a ps4 version
Report InB4B
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
891
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:57:00 -
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Darken Ages wrote:this is why ccp will keep failing,new people come on to try dust and is chased off by these old corps who pub stomp noobs then brag about, ccp needs to make a server for. noobs and one for pro's if not this game will not make it by the end of the year.I see there hasnt even been a change in how many people play in a year still only the same 3000 people play this thank god ccp is to stupid to make a ps4 version
Not all Darkens are created equal.
Who wants some?
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
6897
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:03:00 -
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Sarus Rambo wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online. You do realize EvE starts new players out in highsec, where no one is going to kill them. Sure its possible to, but no one would because newbs don't have anything valuable. Dust throws you to the wolves almost immediately. The equivalent in EvE would be to set up starting systems as a single highsec system in the middle of null security space.
You forget that Concord was once tankable back then so imagine the tears flowing like wine in high sec when ganks were everywhere against miners and haulers.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Adelia Lafayette
Science For Death
694
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:04:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiE8_pz013g
Assault dropship gets blown up....
(Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ "Kitten this I'm out"...
..."I'm back"
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
6897
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:06:00 -
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Rinzler XVIII wrote:Yeap they are
They wont give us a full infantry Respec
CCP has neither confirmed or denied the possibility of an infantry respec. Although the fact that CCP logibro has opened up a discussion thread about it in the feedback section is telling.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Pvt Numnutz
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
772
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:07:00 -
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My favorite prediction from 2003 in the eve collectors edition book, "this game will be dead in 6 months mark my words!"  |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
6898
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:14:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:My favorite prediction from 2003 in the eve collectors edition book, "this game will be dead in 6 months mark my words!"
Lol
In the meantime look what happened to EA's Earth & Beyond. SHUTDOWN!
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
1257
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:16:00 -
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Sarus Rambo wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online. You do realize EvE starts new players out in highsec, where no one is going to kill them. Sure its possible to, but no one would because newbs don't have anything valuable. Dust throws you to the wolves almost immediately. The equivalent in EvE would be to set up starting systems as a single highsec system in the middle of null security space.
high-sec where no one is going to kill them. quote of the day. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
6898
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:18:00 -
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low genius wrote:Sarus Rambo wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online. You do realize EvE starts new players out in highsec, where no one is going to kill them. Sure its possible to, but no one would because newbs don't have anything valuable. Dust throws you to the wolves almost immediately. The equivalent in EvE would be to set up starting systems as a single highsec system in the middle of null security space. high-sec where no one is going to kill them. quote of the day.
The most hilarious part is that he thinks high sec newbs don't have anything valuable in high sec. Lol
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Shiruba Ryou
237
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:23:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online. Shhh, the closed minded, short sighted doom and gloom scrubs (aka seemingly 95% of the forum community) won't be able to comprehend this.
The only people who don't agree that DUST 514 in it's current state can not retain an new player for very long are people who:
- Joined with friends or got right into a active corp so they had people to rage with (makes things so much better having people to talk to in the same match feeling what you feel)
- Got insta-locked into the promise of the future DUST 514 sells so well and pushes themselves through it for that vague and possibly never reached vision (I believe it's about half and half to be honest.)
- Or people like me (and most of the people still here in DUST 514) that joined DUST either in CBT or OBT and grinded with everyone at the start. WE DIDN'T GET ANY OF THESE PROBLEMS BECAUSE WE WERE ALL IN STD/BPO GEAR! We were being smart and leveling our cores and saving ISK which is the reason why some of us who aren't even in PC have 500m+.
If anyone wasn't doing that and went straight into the proto suit and some weapon then we crushed them, T-Bagged the corps, and that person didn't spawn in that suit anymore because he didn't have the ISK to try that again after getting his ass handed to him by a BPO Raven suit with more base EHP, Fitting power, and core passives.
We don't have the right to tell newbies to HTFU. We didn't have to AT ALL. I don't even make alts because playing on them is god aweful. And I KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE GAME. I can't imagine what it's like for a new person who just picked a free game up off of PSN. That **** would have been off my system in an hour if I was a newb and made a new character now. Starting out in EvE is no where near this brutal. I just recenrly mad e a 2 month old pilot in eve for the first time ever using a 2 month free code. Easiest thing in the world to get started.
DUST 514 has a new player retention issue. Just accept it and think of a way to fix it instead of trying to tell people it's fine. People are stupid but if you beat a dog long enough even it will figure out that that's not good.
P.S. Btw I'm not backing you up OP. I think your a prick making a post like that even if your point is valid.
"Not to worry. The cards say you loved it."
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
6900
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:31:00 -
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@shiruba
I do agree that DUST has major problems right now. In fact, I have been critical of CCP a few times already. But unlike the OP, I didn't have to be a jerk about it. Some people just need to learn how to give constructive and well thought out feedback. That helps CCP more than just calling them stupid.
Edit: the famous Judge is well known for his very well thought out observations regarding vehicle imbalance and shows it very well in YouTube videos. In fact, it was because of the way he portrayed the issues that CCP took interest in his critiques.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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HYENAKILLER X
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
611
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:40:00 -
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Darken Ages wrote:this is why ccp will keep failing,new people come on to try dust and is chased off by these old corps who pub stomp noobs then brag about, ccp needs to make a server for. noobs and one for pro's if not this game will not make it by the end of the year.I see there hasnt even been a change in how many people play in a year still only the same 3000 people play this thank god ccp is to stupid to make a ps4 version
You mentioned nothing about tanks.
do not insult my game company without the proper facts.
Noob.
Tanks are for pussies.
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
283
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:44:00 -
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Shiruba Ryou wrote:COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online. Shhh, the closed minded, short sighted doom and gloom scrubs (aka seemingly 95% of the forum community) won't be able to comprehend this. The only people who don't agree that DUST 514 in it's current state can not retain an new player for very long are people who: - Joined with friends or got right into a active corp so they had people to rage with (makes things so much better having people to talk to in the same match feeling what you feel) - Got insta-locked into the promise of the future DUST 514 sells so well and pushes themselves through it for that vague and possibly never reached vision (I believe it's about half and half to be honest.) - Or people like me (and most of the people still here in DUST 514) that joined DUST either in CBT or OBT and grinded with everyone at the start. WE DIDN'T GET ANY OF THESE PROBLEMS BECAUSE WE WERE ALL IN STD/BPO GEAR! We were being smart and leveling our cores and saving ISK which is the reason why some of us who aren't even in PC have 500m+. If anyone wasn't doing that and went straight into the proto suit and some weapon then we crushed them, T-Bagged the corps, and that person didn't spawn in that suit anymore because he didn't have the ISK to try that again after getting his ass handed to him by a BPO Raven suit with more base EHP, Fitting power, and core passives. We don't have the right to tell newbies to HTFU. We didn't have to AT ALL. I don't even make alts because playing on them is god aweful. And I KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE GAME. I can't imagine what it's like for a new person who just picked a free game up off of PSN. That **** would have been off my system in an hour if I was a newb and made a new character now. Starting out in EvE is no where near this brutal. I just recenrly mad e a 2 month old pilot in eve for the first time ever using a 2 month free code. Easiest thing in the world to get started. DUST 514 has a new player retention issue. Just accept it and think of a way to fix it instead of trying to tell people it's fine. People are stupid but if you beat a dog long enough even it will figure out that that's not good. P.S. Btw I'm not backing you up OP. I think your a prick making a post like that even if your point is valid.
Oh I'm not denying there are current issues, I just think many in the community have a drama queen band wagon mentality that fails to see that D514 is a big ass work in progress and they seemingly expect D514 to be the fully realised vision NOW and just fart on and on about it.
In my estimation its like the clown who walked into Rome in the first year of construction saying "LOL oh this is so ****, no one will ever come and live here, this city is a fail and will die!"
Rome took about 500 years to reach its glory.
Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL
Love the Art of War
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
11200
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:47:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online.
If only DUST shared basically any similarities with EVE, and also lacked competition like EVE did.
Different games are different.
Videos / Fiction
Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
6901
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:48:00 -
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In other words, Rome wasn't built in a day.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
6902
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:51:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online. If only DUST shared basically any similarities with EVE, and also lacked competition like EVE did. Different games are different.
Eve lacking competition?
World of Warcraft
Guild Wars
X Rebirth
Of course, WoW and GW are dragons and fantasy compared to Eve's scifi, but they are technically mmo games.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
11201
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:53:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online. If only DUST shared basically any similarities with EVE, and also lacked competition like EVE did. Different games are different. Eve lacking competition? World of Warcraft Guild Wars X Rebirth Of course, WoW and GW are dragons and fantasy compared to Eve's scifi, but they are technically mmo games.
You can't find what EVE offers in another MMO, or at least you couldn't
I can pick up just about any old FPS game, never mind the kickass new ones that are out, and find almost everything I find in DUST when it comes to moment to moment gameplay, but done with better polish.
Thank GOD this game is F2P or it would have sank a long time ago.
Videos / Fiction
Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
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Sarus Rambo
Legion of Seven
16
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Posted - 2014.02.19 21:00:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:low genius wrote:
high-sec where no one is going to kill them. quote of the day.
The most hilarious part is that he thinks high sec newbs don't have anything valuable in high sec. Lol
Who the **** kills people in newb ships? or T1 frigates/cruisers? If they are new and no one is feeding them ISK, most wont have anything valuable for a while. When I say newb I also literally mean new player, not 2 year old players with faction fit mission running ships, or some moron with 30 plex in there unfit T1 frigate. EvE highsec gank's are mostly about making ISK, either by fleecing miners or just by killing ISK pinatas. People don't find new players with nothing valuable and just kill them in highsec. There is literally nothing to gain, and if you do it your ******* stupid. |
Leonid Tybalt
Dark Knightz Corp.
242
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Posted - 2014.02.19 21:07:00 -
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Sarus Rambo wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online. You do realize EvE starts new players out in highsec, where no one is going to kill them. Sure its possible to, but no one would because newbs don't have anything valuable. Dust throws you to the wolves almost immediately. The equivalent in EvE would be to set up starting systems as a single highsec system in the middle of null security space.
It doesen't matter because Eve has been plagued by the same kind of b!tching and of the same amount.
Hence, there's no reason to take it very seriously.
Determined and commited hardcore players will find their way to dust as they did to Eve.
Whiny scrubs will leave, and I sure as hell won't miss 'em... |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
11201
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Posted - 2014.02.19 21:09:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:Sarus Rambo wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online. You do realize EvE starts new players out in highsec, where no one is going to kill them. Sure its possible to, but no one would because newbs don't have anything valuable. Dust throws you to the wolves almost immediately. The equivalent in EvE would be to set up starting systems as a single highsec system in the middle of null security space. It doesen't matter because Eve has been plagued by the same kind of b!tching and of the same amount. Hence, there's no reason to take it very seriously. Determined and commited hardcore players will find their way to dust as they did to Eve. Whiny scrubs will leave, and I sure as hell won't miss 'em...
At least we don't have to worry about truly talented FPS players ever calling DUST home for very long, since it will never be taken seriously as an E Sport, and thus a competitive FPS for truly skilled players to compete and make $$$
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I've played this game about a day and a half. Sometimes I do well. Other times I don't. I'm not crying that someone beat me, oh no my whole worldview and the sum of my being is tied into my perception of me being good at a video game! Oh no all of my hopes and dreams have been crushed. Damn you CCP! Now I have nothing but ashes and broken memories of the person I use to be because I lost in your video game.
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Stoned Kloned Killers
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I was crying for a friend who started and doesnt have a chance when his first three games wherefull corps on the other side proto stompin them |
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Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Dexter307 wrote:We need PVE
Start new players to PVE to start
After a while allow them to join academy matches
After a certain amount of matches and sp earned (~25 matches and 5mil SP) move them to normal MP
Most new players need to get SP from PvE and basic knowledge of cover and tactics, as far as PvP, there really should be tier based battles as options for all. Rewards should be a lot higher if you decide to go into proto level matches, and if you want to go MLT in proto level matches, then good for you... |
Asher Night
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online.
Ugh... this tired old argument lol
You need to understand Eve and Dust are two completely different genres on two completely different systems. The console crowd are a much more fickle, unforgiving crowd than the PC gaming crowd. The FPS console crowd is probably the most unforgiving niche you can find. Look up a video of someone raging over a video game. Chances are it's an FPS.
If I wrote an amazing, breathtaking book, do you think I should be able to make an amazing, breathtaking movie as well? Just because one succeeds doesn't mean the other will.
I hope Dust turns out alright, but playing this game it is incredibly obvious that CCP are new to FPS's. They knew this game would have issues which is why they were smart enough not to charge for it. Imagine just how beyond dead this game would be if you had to pay money to play it. I wouldn't buy this game in it's current state and it's been out 9 months.
It's as if CCP's "10 year plan" is to have a playable game... in 10 years. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Asher Night wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online. Ugh... this tired old argument lol You need to understand Eve and Dust are two completely different genres on two completely different systems. The console crowd are a much more fickle, unforgiving crowd than the PC gaming crowd. The FPS console crowd is probably the most unforgiving niche you can find. Look up a video of someone raging over a video game. Chances are it's an FPS. If I wrote an amazing, breathtaking book, do you think I should be able to make an amazing, breathtaking movie as well? Just because one succeeds doesn't mean the other will. I hope Dust turns out alright, but playing this game it is incredibly obvious that CCP are new to FPS's. They knew this game would have issues which is why they were smart enough not to charge for it. Imagine just how beyond dead this game would be if you had to pay money to play it. I wouldn't buy this game in it's current state and it's been out 9 months. It's as if CCP's "10 year plan" is to have a playable game... in 10 years.
And yet another one misses the point. Eve Online was competing against EA's Earth & Beyond when it first came out. Everyone thought Eve would crumble under E&B but instead E&B collapsed and Eve grew stronger. I heard the same thing about Xplane competing against Microsoft Flight Simulator with everyone thinking MSFS will win. MSFS got discontinued and got bought up by Lockheed Martin.
My overall point, which you missed, is that I have heard this before and usually this ended up with the doomsayers being wrong.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
960
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Debacle Nano wrote:It was not a walk through the park back then either. Small missile turrets had the blast radius of a football field, 1 tank on the field was worse than it is now, and fused locus grenade scouts were a big thing.
OMG the fused scouts!!! Fkn jesus!!!!
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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Admonishment
The Enclave Syndicate
Dark Taboo
98
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Posted - 2014.02.19 22:26:00 -
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(Looks up towards the sky and waits to see the shadow of the lock thread hammer)
Level 5 proficiency in throat punching
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2014.02.19 22:27:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Asher Night wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online. Ugh... this tired old argument lol You need to understand Eve and Dust are two completely different genres on two completely different systems. The console crowd are a much more fickle, unforgiving crowd than the PC gaming crowd. The FPS console crowd is probably the most unforgiving niche you can find. Look up a video of someone raging over a video game. Chances are it's an FPS. If I wrote an amazing, breathtaking book, do you think I should be able to make an amazing, breathtaking movie as well? Just because one succeeds doesn't mean the other will. I hope Dust turns out alright, but playing this game it is incredibly obvious that CCP are new to FPS's. They knew this game would have issues which is why they were smart enough not to charge for it. Imagine just how beyond dead this game would be if you had to pay money to play it. I wouldn't buy this game in it's current state and it's been out 9 months. It's as if CCP's "10 year plan" is to have a playable game... in 10 years. And yet another one misses the point. Eve Online was competing against EA's Earth & Beyond when it first came out. Everyone thought Eve would crumble under E&B but instead E&B collapsed and Eve grew stronger. I heard the same thing about Xplane competing against Microsoft Flight Simulator with everyone thinking MSFS will win. MSFS got discontinued and got bought up by Lockheed Martin. My overall point, which you missed, is that I have heard this before and usually this ended up with the doomsayers being wrong.
When will Dust 514 start competing with other shooters?
Who wants some?
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.19 22:29:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online.
Difference is, EVE is a niche game. There's no other game out there that does what it does better.
DUST? It's a sub par lobby FPS. There's dime a dozen out there.
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
6904
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Posted - 2014.02.19 22:36:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Asher Night wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online. Ugh... this tired old argument lol You need to understand Eve and Dust are two completely different genres on two completely different systems. The console crowd are a much more fickle, unforgiving crowd than the PC gaming crowd. The FPS console crowd is probably the most unforgiving niche you can find. Look up a video of someone raging over a video game. Chances are it's an FPS. If I wrote an amazing, breathtaking book, do you think I should be able to make an amazing, breathtaking movie as well? Just because one succeeds doesn't mean the other will. I hope Dust turns out alright, but playing this game it is incredibly obvious that CCP are new to FPS's. They knew this game would have issues which is why they were smart enough not to charge for it. Imagine just how beyond dead this game would be if you had to pay money to play it. I wouldn't buy this game in it's current state and it's been out 9 months. It's as if CCP's "10 year plan" is to have a playable game... in 10 years. And yet another one misses the point. Eve Online was competing against EA's Earth & Beyond when it first came out. Everyone thought Eve would crumble under E&B but instead E&B collapsed and Eve grew stronger. I heard the same thing about Xplane competing against Microsoft Flight Simulator with everyone thinking MSFS will win. MSFS got discontinued and got bought up by Lockheed Martin. My overall point, which you missed, is that I have heard this before and usually this ended up with the doomsayers being wrong. When will Dust 514 start competing with other shooters?
Mag
Battlefield
Call of duty
It's already competing. Just not effectively at the moment.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2014.02.19 22:37:00 -
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^ lol
Who wants some?
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
6904
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Posted - 2014.02.19 23:59:00 -
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Well... mag died just recently just so you know.
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Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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