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Darken Ages
Stoned Kloned Killers
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:30:00 -
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this is why ccp will keep failing,new people come on to try dust and is chased off by these old corps who pub stomp noobs then brag about, ccp needs to make a server for. noobs and one for pro's if not this game will not make it by the end of the year.I see there hasnt even been a change in how many people play in a year still only the same 3000 people play this thank god ccp is to stupid to make a ps4 version |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:32:00 -
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uwotm8
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Feb. 10th
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2657
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:35:00 -
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InB4butthurtmuch?
I GÖú Kittens.
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Azura Sakura
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
596
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:35:00 -
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Darken Ages wrote:this is why ccp will keep failing,new people come on to try dust and is chased off by these old corps who pub stomp noobs then brag about, ccp needs to make a server for. noobs and one for pro's if not this game will not make it by the end of the year.I see there hasnt even been a change in how many people play in a year still only the same 3000 people play this thank god ccp is to stupid to make a ps4 version
inb4 dust is a hard game (lol)
But really, if they want more people to spend money and enjoy this game. Need more noob friendly environment i.e. militia-std only or PvE. |
Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:39:00 -
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PVE will make this game so much better for new players. somewhere where they need not fear being wiped out instantly.
Best PVE idea I've seen.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
6896
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:42:00 -
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Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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PO0KY
Virtual Syndicate
312
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:43:00 -
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CCP Logibros locking senses were tingled as soon as you made this post. |
COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:47:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online.
Shhh, the closed minded, short sighted doom and gloom scrubs (aka seemingly 95% of the forum community) won't be able to comprehend this.
Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making
Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL
Love the Art of War
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Debacle Nano
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
721
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:47:00 -
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It was not a walk through the park back then either. Small missile turrets had the blast radius of a football field, 1 tank on the field was worse than it is now, and fused locus grenade scouts were a big thing.
Closed beta anyone?
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Azura Sakura
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
597
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:47:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online.
This is true but I don't you can compare Dust to EvE. Since EvE will always be on the PC and Dust is on the ps3 for now and ps4 is out. |
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The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
114
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:48:00 -
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Darken Ages wrote:this is why ccp will keep failing,new people come on to try dust and is chased off by these old corps who pub stomp noobs then brag about, ccp needs to make a server for. noobs and one for pro's if not this game will not make it by the end of the year.I see there hasnt even been a change in how many people play in a year still only the same 3000 people play this thank god ccp is to stupid to make a ps4 version
does COD have servers for new players and vets? |
Sarus Rambo
Legion of Seven
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:52:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online.
You do realize EvE starts new players out in highsec, where no one is going to kill them. Sure its possible to, but no one would because newbs don't have anything valuable. Dust throws you to the wolves almost immediately. The equivalent in EvE would be to set up starting systems as a single highsec system in the middle of null security space.
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Aaroniero d'Lioncourt
0uter.Heaven
393
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:02:00 -
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Darken Ages wrote:this is why ccp will keep failing,new people come on to try dust and is chased off by these old corps who pub stomp noobs then brag about, ccp needs to make a server for. noobs and one for pro's if not this game will not make it by the end of the year.I see there hasnt even been a change in how many people play in a year still only the same 3000 people play this thank god ccp is to stupid to make a ps4 version
You think this game is for our generation to enjoy? CCP plans ahead kk. It's for everyone's grandkids (sorry impotent people)
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
952
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:02:00 -
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We need PVE
Start new players to PVE to start
After a while allow them to join academy matches
After a certain amount of matches and sp earned (~25 matches and 5mil SP) move them to normal MP |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:04:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online.
Hmm, let me see. I think now I will go travel around, get into some other stuff. Maybe I'd pick a fight. Hmm. Nope. Nope. Yeah, no I can only sit in a little room and hit a circle button to join a battle and then run around shooting in a fishbowl again and again and again.
No, nothing like EVE.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Sarus Rambo
Legion of Seven
10
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:05:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Darken Ages wrote:this is why ccp will keep failing,new people come on to try dust and is chased off by these old corps who pub stomp noobs then brag about, ccp needs to make a server for. noobs and one for pro's if not this game will not make it by the end of the year.I see there hasnt even been a change in how many people play in a year still only the same 3000 people play this thank god ccp is to stupid to make a ps4 version does COD have servers for new players and vets?
COD doesn't have straight up more powerful items either. You can mod your person with a different weapon but you can still get destroyed by some new guy without that weapon unlocked. Here you get more powerful weapons, not just different weapons. You also get SP which directly upgrades your mercenary beyond just unlocking more weapons would do. It is an RPG buddy, and you don't see other RPGs throwing level 25s in with level 1s and telling them to fight.
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Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
812
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:14:00 -
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I do not think CCP is stupid.
I do think that they need to raise the cap for all new players. No cap till 5 mil SP. Double cap till 10 mil SP. Same cap as everyone else after 10 mil SP.
Faction Channels for FW Staging
PIE Ground Control | Caldari Hierarchy | Turalyon | Chosen Matari
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Onesimus Tarsus
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:22:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online. Shhh, the closed minded, short sighted doom and gloom scrubs (aka seemingly 95% of the forum community) won't be able to comprehend this.
What's incomprehensible is that CCP seemingly forgot all thelessons of EvE before making DUST.
I'm recruiting only the hardest hard-core-rers out there who are in here.
cc2.27.13
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Rinzler XVIII
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:36:00 -
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Yeap they are
They wont give us a full infantry Respec |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:38:00 -
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Been a long time since we saw a Doomberry around.
My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Cat Merc, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
555
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:45:00 -
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Darken Ages wrote:this is why ccp will keep failing,new people come on to try dust and is chased off by these old corps who pub stomp noobs then brag about, ccp needs to make a server for. noobs and one for pro's if not this game will not make it by the end of the year.I see there hasnt even been a change in how many people play in a year still only the same 3000 people play this thank god ccp is to stupid to make a ps4 version
Report InB4B
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
891
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:57:00 -
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Darken Ages wrote:this is why ccp will keep failing,new people come on to try dust and is chased off by these old corps who pub stomp noobs then brag about, ccp needs to make a server for. noobs and one for pro's if not this game will not make it by the end of the year.I see there hasnt even been a change in how many people play in a year still only the same 3000 people play this thank god ccp is to stupid to make a ps4 version
Not all Darkens are created equal.
Who wants some?
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
6897
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:03:00 -
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Sarus Rambo wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online. You do realize EvE starts new players out in highsec, where no one is going to kill them. Sure its possible to, but no one would because newbs don't have anything valuable. Dust throws you to the wolves almost immediately. The equivalent in EvE would be to set up starting systems as a single highsec system in the middle of null security space.
You forget that Concord was once tankable back then so imagine the tears flowing like wine in high sec when ganks were everywhere against miners and haulers.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Adelia Lafayette
Science For Death
694
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:04:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiE8_pz013g
Assault dropship gets blown up....
(Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ "Kitten this I'm out"...
..."I'm back"
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
6897
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:06:00 -
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Rinzler XVIII wrote:Yeap they are
They wont give us a full infantry Respec
CCP has neither confirmed or denied the possibility of an infantry respec. Although the fact that CCP logibro has opened up a discussion thread about it in the feedback section is telling.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Pvt Numnutz
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
772
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:07:00 -
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My favorite prediction from 2003 in the eve collectors edition book, "this game will be dead in 6 months mark my words!"  |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
6898
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:14:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:My favorite prediction from 2003 in the eve collectors edition book, "this game will be dead in 6 months mark my words!"
Lol
In the meantime look what happened to EA's Earth & Beyond. SHUTDOWN!
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
1257
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:16:00 -
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Sarus Rambo wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online. You do realize EvE starts new players out in highsec, where no one is going to kill them. Sure its possible to, but no one would because newbs don't have anything valuable. Dust throws you to the wolves almost immediately. The equivalent in EvE would be to set up starting systems as a single highsec system in the middle of null security space.
high-sec where no one is going to kill them. quote of the day. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
6898
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:18:00 -
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low genius wrote:Sarus Rambo wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online. You do realize EvE starts new players out in highsec, where no one is going to kill them. Sure its possible to, but no one would because newbs don't have anything valuable. Dust throws you to the wolves almost immediately. The equivalent in EvE would be to set up starting systems as a single highsec system in the middle of null security space. high-sec where no one is going to kill them. quote of the day.
The most hilarious part is that he thinks high sec newbs don't have anything valuable in high sec. Lol
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Shiruba Ryou
237
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Posted - 2014.02.19 20:23:00 -
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Funny.
I remember people saying the same thing about Eve Online 11 years ago. Then 5 years ago about Eve. Then last year about Eve. And still I keep running into people in Eve Online who think Eve Online is broken.
Well, Eve Online is still here and competing well.
CCP developed Eve Online. Shhh, the closed minded, short sighted doom and gloom scrubs (aka seemingly 95% of the forum community) won't be able to comprehend this.
The only people who don't agree that DUST 514 in it's current state can not retain an new player for very long are people who:
- Joined with friends or got right into a active corp so they had people to rage with (makes things so much better having people to talk to in the same match feeling what you feel)
- Got insta-locked into the promise of the future DUST 514 sells so well and pushes themselves through it for that vague and possibly never reached vision (I believe it's about half and half to be honest.)
- Or people like me (and most of the people still here in DUST 514) that joined DUST either in CBT or OBT and grinded with everyone at the start. WE DIDN'T GET ANY OF THESE PROBLEMS BECAUSE WE WERE ALL IN STD/BPO GEAR! We were being smart and leveling our cores and saving ISK which is the reason why some of us who aren't even in PC have 500m+.
If anyone wasn't doing that and went straight into the proto suit and some weapon then we crushed them, T-Bagged the corps, and that person didn't spawn in that suit anymore because he didn't have the ISK to try that again after getting his ass handed to him by a BPO Raven suit with more base EHP, Fitting power, and core passives.
We don't have the right to tell newbies to HTFU. We didn't have to AT ALL. I don't even make alts because playing on them is god aweful. And I KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE GAME. I can't imagine what it's like for a new person who just picked a free game up off of PSN. That **** would have been off my system in an hour if I was a newb and made a new character now. Starting out in EvE is no where near this brutal. I just recenrly mad e a 2 month old pilot in eve for the first time ever using a 2 month free code. Easiest thing in the world to get started.
DUST 514 has a new player retention issue. Just accept it and think of a way to fix it instead of trying to tell people it's fine. People are stupid but if you beat a dog long enough even it will figure out that that's not good.
P.S. Btw I'm not backing you up OP. I think your a prick making a post like that even if your point is valid.
"Not to worry. The cards say you loved it."
- Ryoutoshi
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