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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.19 16:56:00 -
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http://youtu.be/ovDfoRfKerk?t=0m1s
Look at this!
So much of this looks better than the DUST we have now!
It's more colorful, the minimap is better, the effects are better, view bobbing, sound effects (remember when grenades hit near you and you went deaf for a bit?).
How did this happen?
CCP, drop everything, get your entire team into a single room, and just watch videos of the old DUST and take notes of what was better.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1261
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Posted - 2014.02.19 16:59:00 -
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That's what happens when you keep presenting what you'd like to do rather than what you can do. CCP has turned that into a fine art and that has bitten them on the ass more and more.
This is just the walking in stations fiasco multiplied.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1295
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:04:00 -
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"It is an MMORPG"
*spits out coffee*
Drop it like its hat.
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Awry Barux
New Eden Blades Of The Azure
Zero-Day
902
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:07:00 -
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Can we get that scrambler pistol tracer back please? |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
2248
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:11:00 -
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"Here is a sample of what we could have done if we didn't make the mistake of developing this on the POS3" |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
6653
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:17:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:"Here is a sample of what we could have done if we didn't make the mistake of developing this on the POS3"
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This was on the playstation 3 dude...
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
Never.Surrender
457
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:23:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:"Here is a sample of what we could have done if we didn't make the mistake of developing this on the POS3" ... This was on the playstation 3 dude...
If only Dust would had been started 2 years after in PS4 with CARBON (Eve engine)  |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
2247
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:25:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:"Here is a sample of what we could have done if we didn't make the mistake of developing this on the POS3" ... This was on the playstation 3 dude...
That was all probably done on and shown from internal dev kits which then couldn't pass Sony's QA cause it would be too hard on consumer consoles. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
6656
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:38:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:"Here is a sample of what we could have done if we didn't make the mistake of developing this on the POS3" ... This was on the playstation 3 dude... That was all probably done on and shown from internal dev kits which then couldn't pass Sony's QA cause it would be too hard on consumer consoles.
...
That was a live beta...
I remember playing that very build dude.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
884
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:44:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:http://youtu.be/ovDfoRfKerk?t=0m1s
Look at this!
So much of this looks better than the DUST we have now!
It's more colorful, the minimap is better, the effects are better, view bobbing, sound effects (remember when grenades hit near you and you went deaf for a bit?).
How did this happen?
CCP, drop everything, get your entire team into a single room, and just watch videos of the old DUST and take notes of what was better.
CCP do something, anything.
Who wants some?
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
481
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:46:00 -
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You're much nicer in IRC.
Meow. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
6656
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:47:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:You're much nicer in IRC.
Meow.
That's because I like to toy with the forums.
Meow
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
700
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:49:00 -
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i like the current game more except
-missiles now are not very much fun to look at, old missiles were sexy
-rifle shooting sounds and images were nicer then too
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2655
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:54:00 -
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We'll be playing the old 8 bit arcade version of Tron in 6 months, at this pace.
I GÖú Kittens.
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
4988
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:56:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:"Here is a sample of what we could have done if we didn't make the mistake of developing this on the POS3" ... This was on the playstation 3 dude... That was all probably done on and shown from internal dev kits which then couldn't pass Sony's QA cause it would be too hard on consumer consoles.
LOL, dude, this was Replication build - following Crater Lake. This was August - September 2012ish. I started playing closed beta in June 2012, this isn't some internal dev kit. THIS WAS ON THE PS3 ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO.
Useful Links
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1253
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Posted - 2014.02.19 17:58:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:"Here is a sample of what we could have done if we didn't make the mistake of developing this on the POS3"
Thats beta... on the ps3.. pretty much what everyone glorifies.. cuz it was amazing.. Did it have glitches? yes... Did it have some lag? yes..
Was it much different then now? nope.. better frame rate consistency BY FAR in my opinion.. but frame rate dips are very noticeable these days... |
CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
714
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:02:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:"Here is a sample of what we could have done if we didn't make the mistake of developing this on the POS3" Thats beta... on the ps3.. pretty much what everyone glorifies.. cuz it was amazing.. Did it have glitches? yes... Did it have some lag? yes.. Was it much different then now? nope.. better frame rate consistency BY FAR in my opinion.. but frame rate dips are very noticeable these days...
Especially on the best maps. Is it the Gallente Research Facility with the objective in the missile tunnel / silo thing that can be orbital'ed. That map ALWAYS grinds to a halt. Average FPS i would guess is less than 20 for sure.
CCP please optimise the game, we need consistent 30+fps unless everything is hectic then of course its understandable that a years old PS3 will not handle that. However when my frame rate drops to those levels on a regular basis - its time you guys did some more optimising. |
Scheherazade VII
216
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:11:00 -
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1080p doesn't matter too much, I would love to see this game in 720p 60FPS (that's important for fast-paced action)
on the PS4 on the Carbon engine.
The PS3 is holding this game back! |
Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
4989
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:15:00 -
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Scheherazade VII wrote:1080p doesn't matter too much, I would love to see this game in 720p 60FPS (that's important for fast-paced action)
on the PS4 on the Carbon engine.
The PS3 is holding this game back!
Meh. I'm not a fan of 60 FPS. If there's an option to cap the frame-rate to 30 FPS, sure. Just saying, Titanfall is great and all but good lord is there a lot going on. Looks jerky and just generally nauseating.
Useful Links
//forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588
//forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
6660
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:15:00 -
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Scheherazade VII wrote:1080p doesn't matter too much, I would love to see this game in 720p 60FPS (that's important for fast-paced action)
on the PS4 on the Carbon engine.
The PS3 is holding this game back!
PS4 could run this on 4k and 60fps.
Game looks like crap.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1254
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:24:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Scheherazade VII wrote:1080p doesn't matter too much, I would love to see this game in 720p 60FPS (that's important for fast-paced action)
on the PS4 on the Carbon engine.
The PS3 is holding this game back! Meh. I'm not a fan of 60 FPS. If there's an option to cap the frame-rate to 30 FPS, sure. Just saying, Titanfall is great and all but good lord is there a lot going on. Looks jerky and just generally nauseating.
A good computer makes that game sing. Its truly amazing.. a good example of how to separate mechanical units and infantry based with allowing them good competition with one another when they cross.
It's the mobility that does it ultimately for me.. The ability to create fast based gameplay by knowing your movement limitations well.
I can be competitive just moving around and ninja kicking people in the face. Absolutely a blast and has like no content and its still amazing. |
steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
2343
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:32:00 -
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Dust is the only game i know of thats gotten worse with every patch to the point its basicly unplayable now. And dont mean hardwise i mean gameplay littlary the best way to progress in this game is too afk and lock a pc district.
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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Marc Rime
270
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Posted - 2014.02.19 18:43:00 -
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I, too, miss Chromosome.
EDIT: Oh, it was one of the earlier builds. Well, the graphics were more or less the same, but Chromosome didn't require reboots every now and then, at least not as often ;). |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
2247
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:02:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:LOL, dude, this was Replication build - following Crater Lake. This was August - September 2012ish. I started playing closed beta in June 2012, this isn't some internal dev kit. THIS WAS ON THE PS3 ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO.
Ah... then never mind I take it back, I started in Chromosome so that was unfamiliar to me.
In that case... wow... its pretty crazy, but im not surprised considering how much of a step back uprising was in terms of.. well... everything.
Still think my comment holds though, clearly from other comments in this thread the PS3 couldnt handle it... where a PC would laugh at it.
POS3... holding Dust back from greatness since its inception. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
6670
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Posted - 2014.02.19 21:56:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:LOL, dude, this was Replication build - following Crater Lake. This was August - September 2012ish. I started playing closed beta in June 2012, this isn't some internal dev kit. THIS WAS ON THE PS3 ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO. Ah... then never mind I take it back, I started in Chromosome so that was unfamiliar to me. In that case... wow... its pretty crazy, but im not surprised considering how much of a step back uprising was in terms of.. well... everything. Still think my comment holds though, clearly from other comments in this thread the PS3 couldnt handle it... where a PC would laugh at it. POS3... holding Dust back from greatness since its inception.
Great games have been made on the PS3.
Don't blame the console, blame the developer.
Also, it ran better than Uprising does right now.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
4989
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Posted - 2014.02.19 22:13:00 -
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Graphically, Beyond: Two Souls, The Last of Us, Metal Gear Solid: 3.... All games with gorgeous detail.
Faster-paced gameplay with graphical elements: Vanquish, Resident Evil 5/6 (even though I hate the direction they took), Battlefield 3 and Call of Duty: Ghosts.
Then you have games that lack in the graphical department but excel in other areas like Metal Gear: Rising, Skyrim and Prototype.
Point is, a game can go in all different directions and still be good. Whether it's superior graphics with not a lot of stuff going on on screen or a game that focuses more on huge amounts of items/animations/sounds, etc. It's entirely possible for a game of Dust 514's stature to excel in the visual department with enough optimization but as we've already seen they've had to make a -lot- of cut-backs on the graphics department just to get the game running at a half decent speed (albeit, I blame Unreal for that).
To name a few effects that saw cut-backs: RDVs, repair tools, mass driver effects, scrambler pistol tracers.
But then we have the real problem (in my eyes) in that, since I started in June 2012, the game has been steadily -losing- content. Marauder/Black Ops/Enforcer HAVs, Logistics Dropships, Logistics/Scout LAVs, various effects, corp battles, 3D starmap, real-time mini-map, HUD bob, explosive deafening, all sorts of stuff has been removed from the game and has yet to return. Alas, we have people saying "Remove the Flaylock pistol! It's useless!" and "Remove PC until it's fixed!" and I can't help but wonder how long this removal frenzy is going to go on before we realize that we have nothing left to play.
Useful Links
//forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588
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Sarus Rambo
Legion of Seven
18
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Posted - 2014.02.19 22:22:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:
But then we have the real problem (in my eyes) in that, since I started in June 2012, the game has been steadily -losing- content. Marauder/Black Ops/Enforcer HAVs, Logistics Dropships, Logistics/Scout LAVs, various effects, corp battles, 3D starmap, real-time mini-map, HUD bob, explosive deafening, all sorts of stuff has been removed from the game and has yet to return. Alas, we have people saying "Remove the Flaylock pistol! It's useless!" and "Remove PC until it's fixed!" and I can't help but wonder how long this removal frenzy is going to go on before we realize that we have nothing left to play.
Yeah, WTF is up with this?
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
4993
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Posted - 2014.02.20 18:06:00 -
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Sarus Rambo wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:
But then we have the real problem (in my eyes) in that, since I started in June 2012, the game has been steadily -losing- content. Marauder/Black Ops/Enforcer HAVs, Logistics Dropships, Logistics/Scout LAVs, various effects, corp battles, 3D starmap, real-time mini-map, HUD bob, explosive deafening, all sorts of stuff has been removed from the game and has yet to return. Alas, we have people saying "Remove the Flaylock pistol! It's useless!" and "Remove PC until it's fixed!" and I can't help but wonder how long this removal frenzy is going to go on before we realize that we have nothing left to play.
Yeah, WTF is up with this?
/me shrugs
There's a few things I can understand. Graphical/sound removals come at the price of introducing new stuff into the game because both are very memory intensive (sound especially). Content on the other hand... I have no idea. I've seen a few backdrops and map designs that looked pretty fleshed out and ready to go that either never made it in game or simply faded away (Caldari Prime titan backdrop, for instance, will probably never be seen again).
I'm sure by now CCP has realized that they need to focus more on re-usable assets for the sake of budget (no sense in having someone develop something that'll only be used once) but looking at Dust's history as a reminder certainly can't hurt. This is primarily why whenever someone says "Remove 'x'! It's broken!" I get a little riled up. I've seen far too many things get removed from this game that were just generally ****ing awesome to sit here and just let the 'community' advocate more of it.
Useful Links
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3014
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Posted - 2014.02.21 00:25:00 -
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Why was the frame rate so much more stable there?
Looked incredibly fluid. It never looks that fluid. |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
3182
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Posted - 2014.02.21 00:29:00 -
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dat stamina recharge
"Spilling floor cleaner only makes the floor cleaner" -Draxus Prime
Closed Beta Vet
Nova Knife Proficiency 5 \o/
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1281
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Posted - 2014.02.21 00:52:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Why was the frame rate so much more stable there?
Looked incredibly fluid. It never looks that fluid.
I miss it... I Feel like a Person trying to play the latest computer game on my 4 year old box in DUST right now.. Fluid aiming is only possible for the first 5 minutes of a match these days.. and then the frame rate starts going from 10-20 FPS in populated fire fights... near impossible for any consistent control input. |
Vegetation Monster
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
156
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Posted - 2014.02.21 01:00:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:http://youtu.be/ovDfoRfKerk?t=0m1s
Look at this!
So much of this looks better than the DUST we have now!
It's more colorful, the minimap is better, the effects are better, view bobbing, sound effects (remember when grenades hit near you and you went deaf for a bit?).
How did this happen?
CCP, drop everything, get your entire team into a single room, and just watch videos of the old DUST and take notes of what was better.
CHEAAPPP PROTO WEAPONS!!!!!
B
Double O
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Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
287
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Posted - 2014.02.21 01:06:00 -
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Because CCP shanghai has no idea what they're doing with this game, and for some reasom want to focus on the PS3 instead of being smart and going to the PS4. They have an engine already, the just need to bite the bullet and make content for it. |
Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
213
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Posted - 2014.02.21 01:06:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:"Here is a sample of what we could have done if we didn't make the mistake of developing this on the POS3" Thats beta... on the ps3.. pretty much what everyone glorifies.. cuz it was amazing.. Did it have glitches? yes... Did it have some lag? yes.. Was it much different then now? nope.. better frame rate consistency BY FAR in my opinion.. but frame rate dips are very noticeable these days...
And it was much more fun! |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3015
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Posted - 2014.02.21 01:16:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Why was the frame rate so much more stable there?
Looked incredibly fluid. It never looks that fluid. I miss it... I Feel like a Person trying to play the latest computer game on my 4 year old box in DUST right now.. Fluid aiming is only possible for the first 5 minutes of a match these days.. and then the frame rate starts going from 10-20 FPS in populated fire fights... near impossible for any consistent control input.
That's always been a problem. But I can NEVER remember a time where the frame rate was as buttery as in this video. |
Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
Lokun Listamenn
3257
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Posted - 2014.02.21 01:19:00 -
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lol Cat Merc, you're our own personal shock radio DJ
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1302
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Posted - 2014.02.21 01:23:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:"Here is a sample of what we could have done if we didn't make the mistake of developing this on the POS3" ... This was on the playstation 3 dude... That was all probably done on and shown from internal dev kits which then couldn't pass Sony's QA cause it would be too hard on consumer consoles. ... That was a live beta... I remember playing that very build dude.
I remember that build also.
And a certain Cat that decided to shoot my nanohive and also detonated my atomic frisbee(RE) that was hidden inside.
Pop,pop,pop..BOOM!! and you went flying straight up like an Apollo mission rocket.
Fun days those of bygone builds.
Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!!
Jumps into escape pod!
Selected destination Planet PS4.
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Altina McAlterson
Pure Innocence.
EoN.
882
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Posted - 2014.02.21 01:26:00 -
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When I first started playing DUST if you could play 3 matches in a row without having to do a hard reset that was seriously something to get excited over.
Invalid Fittings 24/7.
My HDD worked so hard it started to come loose and rattle before I took the PS3 apart to tighten the mounts.
Sometimes you'd get stuck with the spinning circle of doom and have to quickly open the leaderboards because anything else you tried would freeze the game.
If you opened the map in a vehicle you fell through the ground...every time.
Disco tanks.
There are a lot of days I'd have those problems again if I could get the old gameplay back. And don't give me any of that "rose colored glasses" **** either. I liked the game more back then than I do now and I have a very good memory of exactly what it was like.
Running a blaster tank in ambush is like bringing Anthrax to a pillow fight.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3015
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Posted - 2014.02.21 02:23:00 -
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Character movement was so much more fluid....
Why.... why.....
This whole thing is very, very upsetting. |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
1473
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Posted - 2014.02.21 02:26:00 -
[40] - Quote
Things can't "devolve" they can only "evolve", which is simply change over time.
Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514
"No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
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Auztin Dorriety
The Phoenix Federation
Proficiency V.
2
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Posted - 2014.02.21 03:02:00 -
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They don't know how to make a good shooter.
2 things they are doing that just doesn't work.
Full Auto & Long Range can't mix.
You never make shooting games gear based like you do on MMO's. |
howard sanchez
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
843
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Posted - 2014.02.21 03:15:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Cat Merc wrote:http://youtu.be/ovDfoRfKerk?t=0m1s
Look at this!
So much of this looks better than the DUST we have now!
It's more colorful, the minimap is better, the effects are better, view bobbing, sound effects (remember when grenades hit near you and you went deaf for a bit?).
How did this happen?
CCP, drop everything, get your entire team into a single room, and just watch videos of the old DUST and take notes of what was better. CCP do something, anything.
Hear Hear!
Good God, CCP, what is wrong with you?
How many times over the past two years has the community asked you to communicate with us?
We are the ones that have stayed, lasted, persisted through all of the glacially slow development and on again off again 'progress'
And we have asked and pleaded with you constantly to quit with your Black Box approach to information exchange.
Why won't you communicate with your playerbase? What is it you think you'll lose by telling us how it's going, what you are working on, what you are planning?
Please don't give us that BS about marketing and stupid FanFest reveals. Everyone can clearly see that you are no where close to ' on pace ' or on target with this game. There is no marketing push. There is no playerbase growth.
What would go wrong if you told us what is on your ' roadmap'?
Are you concerned that if you fail to meet a deadline or fall short of our lofty expectations we will leave??
news flash - you crossed that bridge last May.
Wtf ccp?! Say Something |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
984
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Posted - 2014.02.21 04:02:00 -
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While I liked the general direction of DUST much better then, it has considerably improved in terms of hard locks and disconnecte. I will give CCP that.
As for the "MMOFPSRPG"... Yeah... An "FPS" with a few RPG elements... Almost no MMO...
Gameplay is a yawn, improvement is turtle slow, I just stopped caring almost a full year ago. Played religiously during beta, but the past year has just destroyed any interest. I can't get past the basic pervasive repetitive boredom to play enough to care about the community, which is the only thing that really holds most of you in this game...
Also, don't put on the rose tinted glasses for the PS4 and Carbon engine. First off the carbon engine is basically the engine handling character creation, for all intents and purposes they said it was ill suited to FPS development on console. I would rather they built an engine from scratch or at least heavily modified than used Unreal, and I think most of you are looking at the Carbon Engine as some kind of holy grail when it was probably a broken teacup...
Second 4K is completely dumb to even consider making games in, heck the PS4 is having trouble getting 60FPS at some 720p games... Much less 1080...
Anyways, I would just advise sitting on the sidelines and watching DUST slog forward... Lord knows they are gonna need that 10 year plan to get it more than mediocre LOL
My forum forge gun has a 1000% damage bonus against stupid posts
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1286
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:07:00 -
[44] - Quote
J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:While I liked the general direction of DUST much better then, it has considerably improved in terms of hard locks and disconnecte. I will give CCP that.
As for the "MMOFPSRPG"... Yeah... An "FPS" with a few RPG elements... Almost no MMO...
Gameplay is a yawn, improvement is turtle slow, I just stopped caring almost a full year ago. Played religiously during beta, but the past year has just destroyed any interest. I can't get past the basic pervasive repetitive boredom to play enough to care about the community, which is the only thing that really holds most of you in this game...
Also, don't put on the rose tinted glasses for the PS4 and Carbon engine. First off the carbon engine is basically the engine handling character creation, for all intents and purposes they said it was ill suited to FPS development on console. I would rather they built an engine from scratch or at least heavily modified than used Unreal, and I think most of you are looking at the Carbon Engine as some kind of holy grail when it was probably a broken teacup...
Second 4K is completely dumb to even consider making games in, heck the PS4 is having trouble getting 60FPS at some 720p games... Much less 1080...
Anyways, I would just advise sitting on the sidelines and watching DUST slog forward... Lord knows they are gonna need that 10 year plan to get it more than mediocre LOL
Watch DUST back in 2009 on the Carbon Engine yourself and tell me how well it was suited... ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED-YF-v7WCw <----- Check out the Gallente Fighter at 5:40.
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Renegade Alliance
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:While I liked the general direction of DUST much better then, it has considerably improved in terms of hard locks and disconnecte. I will give CCP that.
As for the "MMOFPSRPG"... Yeah... An "FPS" with a few RPG elements... Almost no MMO...
Gameplay is a yawn, improvement is turtle slow, I just stopped caring almost a full year ago. Played religiously during beta, but the past year has just destroyed any interest. I can't get past the basic pervasive repetitive boredom to play enough to care about the community, which is the only thing that really holds most of you in this game...
Also, don't put on the rose tinted glasses for the PS4 and Carbon engine. First off the carbon engine is basically the engine handling character creation, for all intents and purposes they said it was ill suited to FPS development on console. I would rather they built an engine from scratch or at least heavily modified than used Unreal, and I think most of you are looking at the Carbon Engine as some kind of holy grail when it was probably a broken teacup...
Second 4K is completely dumb to even consider making games in, heck the PS4 is having trouble getting 60FPS at some 720p games... Much less 1080...
Anyways, I would just advise sitting on the sidelines and watching DUST slog forward... Lord knows they are gonna need that 10 year plan to get it more than mediocre LOL
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McFurious
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:20:00 -
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Just stop trying to fight hardware limitations on console and put the game on PC where it blongs.
Half Irish. Often angry.
Closed Beta Masshole
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.21 08:00:00 -
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For the record, the reason the game looked so fluid and high in the FPS department is because most of those videos are internal builds. I have no idea why but anytime it's an internal build it runs smoother - just how it works. If you watch the Dust tournament from Fanfest 2013, **** ran smooth and it was gorgeous (Uprising, btw). Then, Uprising hit the public and it all went downhill; no-one (not even CCP) knew what the **** happened.
It wasn't that smooth back then either, it was actually a lot worse if memory serves. There was a HUGE change when Chromosome came into play and the FPS got substantially faster but that's about where we're at right now.
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.02.21 08:28:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:http://youtu.be/ovDfoRfKerk?t=0m1s
Look at this!
So much of this looks better than the DUST we have now!
It's more colorful, the minimap is better, the effects are better, view bobbing, sound effects (remember when grenades hit near you and you went deaf for a bit?).
How did this happen?
CCP, drop everything, get your entire team into a single room, and just watch videos of the old DUST and take notes of what was better.
this is genius......im seeing the game i actually want to play.............. wish it wasnt dad and gone now....lol why did ccp nerf graphics......its absolutely the only game ive ever see do that
Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
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