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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6650	Posted - 2014.02.19 16:56:00 - [1] - Quote http://youtu.be/ovDfoRfKerk?t=0m1s Look at this! So much of this looks better than the DUST we have now! It's more colorful, the minimap is better, the effects are better, view bobbing, sound effects (remember when grenades hit near you and you went deaf for a bit?). How did this happen? CCP, drop everything, get your entire team into a single room, and just watch videos of the old DUST and take notes of what was better. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1261	Posted - 2014.02.19 16:59:00 - [2] - Quote That's what happens when you keep presenting what you'd like to do rather than what you can do. CCP has turned that into a fine art and that has bitten them on the ass more and more. This is just the walking in stations fiasco multiplied. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1295	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:04:00 - [3] - Quote "It is an MMORPG" spits out coffee Drop it like its hat.
Awry Barux New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 902	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:07:00 - [4] - Quote Can we get that scrambler pistol tracer back please?
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2248	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:11:00 - [5] - Quote "Here is a sample of what we could have done if we didn't make the mistake of developing this on the POS3"
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6653	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:17:00 - [6] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: "Here is a sample of what we could have done if we didn't make the mistake of developing this on the POS3" ... This was on the playstation 3 dude... Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Mordecai Sanguine What The French Never.Surrender 457	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:23:00 - [7] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: "Here is a sample of what we could have done if we didn't make the mistake of developing this on the POS3" ... This was on the playstation 3 dude... If only Dust would had been started 2 years after in PS4 with CARBON (Eve engine)
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2247	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:25:00 - [8] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: "Here is a sample of what we could have done if we didn't make the mistake of developing this on the POS3" ... This was on the playstation 3 dude... That was all probably done on and shown from internal dev kits which then couldn't pass Sony's QA cause it would be too hard on consumer consoles.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6656	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:38:00 - [9] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: "Here is a sample of what we could have done if we didn't make the mistake of developing this on the POS3" ... This was on the playstation 3 dude... That was all probably done on and shown from internal dev kits which then couldn't pass Sony's QA cause it would be too hard on consumer consoles. ... That was a live beta... I remember playing that very build dude. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 884	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:44:00 - [10] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: http://youtu.be/ovDfoRfKerk?t=0m1s Look at this! So much of this looks better than the DUST we have now! It's more colorful, the minimap is better, the effects are better, view bobbing, sound effects (remember when grenades hit near you and you went deaf for a bit?). How did this happen? CCP, drop everything, get your entire team into a single room, and just watch videos of the old DUST and take notes of what was better. CCP do something, anything. Who wants some?

Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 481	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:46:00 - [11] - Quote You're much nicer in IRC. Meow.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6656	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:47:00 - [12] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: You're much nicer in IRC. Meow. That's because I like to toy with the forums. Meow Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 700	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:49:00 - [13] - Quote i like the current game more except -missiles now are not very much fun to look at, old missiles were sexy -rifle shooting sounds and images were nicer then too Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2655	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:54:00 - [14] - Quote We'll be playing the old 8 bit arcade version of Tron in 6 months, at this pace. I GÖú Kittens.
Aeon Amadi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4988	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:56:00 - [15] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: "Here is a sample of what we could have done if we didn't make the mistake of developing this on the POS3" ... This was on the playstation 3 dude... That was all probably done on and shown from internal dev kits which then couldn't pass Sony's QA cause it would be too hard on consumer consoles. LOL, dude, this was Replication build - following Crater Lake. This was August - September 2012ish. I started playing closed beta in June 2012, this isn't some internal dev kit. THIS WAS ON THE PS3 ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO. Useful Links //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588 //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1253	Posted - 2014.02.19 17:58:00 - [16] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: "Here is a sample of what we could have done if we didn't make the mistake of developing this on the POS3" Thats beta... on the ps3.. pretty much what everyone glorifies.. cuz it was amazing.. Did it have glitches? yes... Did it have some lag? yes.. Was it much different then now? nope.. better frame rate consistency BY FAR in my opinion.. but frame rate dips are very noticeable these days...
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 714	Posted - 2014.02.19 18:02:00 - [17] - Quote Bethhy wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: "Here is a sample of what we could have done if we didn't make the mistake of developing this on the POS3" Thats beta... on the ps3.. pretty much what everyone glorifies.. cuz it was amazing.. Did it have glitches? yes... Did it have some lag? yes.. Was it much different then now? nope.. better frame rate consistency BY FAR in my opinion.. but frame rate dips are very noticeable these days... Especially on the best maps. Is it the Gallente Research Facility with the objective in the missile tunnel / silo thing that can be orbital'ed. That map ALWAYS grinds to a halt. Average FPS i would guess is less than 20 for sure. CCP please optimise the game, we need consistent 30+fps unless everything is hectic then of course its understandable that a years old PS3 will not handle that. However when my frame rate drops to those levels on a regular basis - its time you guys did some more optimising.
Scheherazade VII 216	Posted - 2014.02.19 18:11:00 - [18] - Quote 1080p doesn't matter too much, I would love to see this game in 720p 60FPS (that's important for fast-paced action) on the PS4 on the Carbon engine. The PS3 is holding this game back!
Aeon Amadi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4989	Posted - 2014.02.19 18:15:00 - [19] - Quote Scheherazade VII wrote: 1080p doesn't matter too much, I would love to see this game in 720p 60FPS (that's important for fast-paced action) on the PS4 on the Carbon engine. The PS3 is holding this game back! Meh. I'm not a fan of 60 FPS. If there's an option to cap the frame-rate to 30 FPS, sure. Just saying, Titanfall is great and all but good lord is there a lot going on. Looks jerky and just generally nauseating. Useful Links //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588 //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6660	Posted - 2014.02.19 18:15:00 - [20] - Quote Scheherazade VII wrote: 1080p doesn't matter too much, I would love to see this game in 720p 60FPS (that's important for fast-paced action) on the PS4 on the Carbon engine. The PS3 is holding this game back! PS4 could run this on 4k and 60fps. Game looks like crap. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos

Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1254	Posted - 2014.02.19 18:24:00 - [21] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Scheherazade VII wrote: 1080p doesn't matter too much, I would love to see this game in 720p 60FPS (that's important for fast-paced action) on the PS4 on the Carbon engine. The PS3 is holding this game back! Meh. I'm not a fan of 60 FPS. If there's an option to cap the frame-rate to 30 FPS, sure. Just saying, Titanfall is great and all but good lord is there a lot going on. Looks jerky and just generally nauseating. A good computer makes that game sing. Its truly amazing.. a good example of how to separate mechanical units and infantry based with allowing them good competition with one another when they cross. It's the mobility that does it ultimately for me.. The ability to create fast based gameplay by knowing your movement limitations well. I can be competitive just moving around and ninja kicking people in the face. Absolutely a blast and has like no content and its still amazing.
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2343	Posted - 2014.02.19 18:32:00 - [22] - Quote Dust is the only game i know of thats gotten worse with every patch to the point its basicly unplayable now. And dont mean hardwise i mean gameplay littlary the best way to progress in this game is too afk and lock a pc district. "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Marc Rime 270	Posted - 2014.02.19 18:43:00 - [23] - Quote I, too, miss Chromosome. EDIT: Oh, it was one of the earlier builds. Well, the graphics were more or less the same, but Chromosome didn't require reboots every now and then, at least not as often ;).
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2247	Posted - 2014.02.19 19:02:00 - [24] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: LOL, dude, this was Replication build - following Crater Lake. This was August - September 2012ish. I started playing closed beta in June 2012, this isn't some internal dev kit. THIS WAS ON THE PS3 ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO. Ah... then never mind I take it back, I started in Chromosome so that was unfamiliar to me. In that case... wow... its pretty crazy, but im not surprised considering how much of a step back uprising was in terms of.. well... everything. Still think my comment holds though, clearly from other comments in this thread the PS3 couldnt handle it... where a PC would laugh at it. POS3... holding Dust back from greatness since its inception.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6670	Posted - 2014.02.19 21:56:00 - [25] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: LOL, dude, this was Replication build - following Crater Lake. This was August - September 2012ish. I started playing closed beta in June 2012, this isn't some internal dev kit. THIS WAS ON THE PS3 ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO. Ah... then never mind I take it back, I started in Chromosome so that was unfamiliar to me. In that case... wow... its pretty crazy, but im not surprised considering how much of a step back uprising was in terms of.. well... everything. Still think my comment holds though, clearly from other comments in this thread the PS3 couldnt handle it... where a PC would laugh at it. POS3... holding Dust back from greatness since its inception. Great games have been made on the PS3. Don't blame the console, blame the developer. Also, it ran better than Uprising does right now. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Aeon Amadi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4989	Posted - 2014.02.19 22:13:00 - [26] - Quote Graphically, Beyond: Two Souls, The Last of Us, Metal Gear Solid: 3.... All games with gorgeous detail. Faster-paced gameplay with graphical elements: Vanquish, Resident Evil 5/6 (even though I hate the direction they took), Battlefield 3 and Call of Duty: Ghosts. Then you have games that lack in the graphical department but excel in other areas like Metal Gear: Rising, Skyrim and Prototype. Point is, a game can go in all different directions and still be good. Whether it's superior graphics with not a lot of stuff going on on screen or a game that focuses more on huge amounts of items/animations/sounds, etc. It's entirely possible for a game of Dust 514's stature to excel in the visual department with enough optimization but as we've already seen they've had to make a -lot- of cut-backs on the graphics department just to get the game running at a half decent speed (albeit, I blame Unreal for that). To name a few effects that saw cut-backs: RDVs, repair tools, mass driver effects, scrambler pistol tracers. But then we have the real problem (in my eyes) in that, since I started in June 2012, the game has been steadily -losing- content. Marauder/Black Ops/Enforcer HAVs, Logistics Dropships, Logistics/Scout LAVs, various effects, corp battles, 3D starmap, real-time mini-map, HUD bob, explosive deafening, all sorts of stuff has been removed from the game and has yet to return. Alas, we have people saying "Remove the Flaylock pistol! It's useless!" and "Remove PC until it's fixed!" and I can't help but wonder how long this removal frenzy is going to go on before we realize that we have nothing left to play. Useful Links //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588 //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182
Sarus Rambo Legion of Seven 18	Posted - 2014.02.19 22:22:00 - [27] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: But then we have the real problem (in my eyes) in that, since I started in June 2012, the game has been steadily -losing- content. Marauder/Black Ops/Enforcer HAVs, Logistics Dropships, Logistics/Scout LAVs, various effects, corp battles, 3D starmap, real-time mini-map, HUD bob, explosive deafening, all sorts of stuff has been removed from the game and has yet to return. Alas, we have people saying "Remove the Flaylock pistol! It's useless!" and "Remove PC until it's fixed!" and I can't help but wonder how long this removal frenzy is going to go on before we realize that we have nothing left to play. Yeah, WTF is up with this?
Aeon Amadi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4993	Posted - 2014.02.20 18:06:00 - [28] - Quote Sarus Rambo wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: But then we have the real problem (in my eyes) in that, since I started in June 2012, the game has been steadily -losing- content. Marauder/Black Ops/Enforcer HAVs, Logistics Dropships, Logistics/Scout LAVs, various effects, corp battles, 3D starmap, real-time mini-map, HUD bob, explosive deafening, all sorts of stuff has been removed from the game and has yet to return. Alas, we have people saying "Remove the Flaylock pistol! It's useless!" and "Remove PC until it's fixed!" and I can't help but wonder how long this removal frenzy is going to go on before we realize that we have nothing left to play. Yeah, WTF is up with this? /me shrugs There's a few things I can understand. Graphical/sound removals come at the price of introducing new stuff into the game because both are very memory intensive (sound especially). Content on the other hand... I have no idea. I've seen a few backdrops and map designs that looked pretty fleshed out and ready to go that either never made it in game or simply faded away (Caldari Prime titan backdrop, for instance, will probably never be seen again). I'm sure by now CCP has realized that they need to focus more on re-usable assets for the sake of budget (no sense in having someone develop something that'll only be used once) but looking at Dust's history as a reminder certainly can't hurt. This is primarily why whenever someone says "Remove 'x'! It's broken!" I get a little riled up. I've seen far too many things get removed from this game that were just generally ****ing awesome to sit here and just let the 'community' advocate more of it. Useful Links //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588 //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3014	Posted - 2014.02.21 00:25:00 - [29] - Quote Why was the frame rate so much more stable there? Looked incredibly fluid. It never looks that fluid.
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 3182	Posted - 2014.02.21 00:29:00 - [30] - Quote dat stamina recharge "Spilling floor cleaner only makes the floor cleaner" -Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Nova Knife Proficiency 5 \o/



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