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Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.02.19 13:53:00 -
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When you allow 6 proto gal logis or 6 tankers to get together, then you let your game rust because noobs like me get proto stomped every other match. I would fight back with my proto gear but it's not worth it because isk payout is so low that I cannot afford to lose proto especially when I'm playing with 15 fresh out of the academy and were in a losing battle.
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Derpty Derp
It's All Gone Derp
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Posted - 2014.02.19 13:56:00 -
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6 tanks... The perfect opportunity to go for the multi-kill jihad 
I've only personally managed a tank and a jeep with one jihad  |
Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.19 13:57:00 -
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Some random stuff have to say: We have grenade launchers that can launch grenades hundreds of meters without a huge arc but millions of years into the future and the mass driver shoots as if it is shooting a 30 ton skittle.
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Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.19 13:58:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:6 tanks... The perfect opportunity to go for the multi-kill jihad I've only personally managed a tank and a jeep with one jihad
2 jeep tries for each tank= 12 jeeps = 25k isk * 12= 300k isk. Nope.
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.19 14:07:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:6 tanks... The perfect opportunity to go for the multi-kill jihad I've only personally managed a tank and a jeep with one jihad
I know a noble soul who popped two maddy's with one Jihad LAV  |
Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.19 14:10:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Derpty Derp wrote:6 tanks... The perfect opportunity to go for the multi-kill jihad I've only personally managed a tank and a jeep with one jihad I know a noble soul who popped two maddy's with one Jihad LAV
Stefan the Almighty seen it from my python.
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
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Posted - 2014.02.19 14:18:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:6 tanks... The perfect opportunity to go for the multi-kill jihad I've only personally managed a tank and a jeep with one jihad
Things like this are why Dust needs PSN trophies.
Killing two tanks with one jihad jeep should unlock a silver trophy for you.
I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - draconian forum overlord CCP Logibro]
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WARxion ForDUST
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.19 14:28:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:When you allow 6 proto gal logis or 6 tankers to get together, then you let your game rust because noobs like me get proto stomped every other match. I would fight back with my proto gear but it's not worth it because isk payout is so low that I cannot afford to lose proto especially when I'm playing with 15 fresh out of the academy and were in a losing battle.
OMG I would like to write a nice, useful comment but I will just assume this is a troll post.
Vegetation Monster wrote:2 jeep tries for each tank= 12 jeeps = 25k isk * 12= 300k isk. Nope.
Ok, it is a troll post. |
Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.19 14:32:00 -
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WARxion ForDUST wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:When you allow 6 proto gal logis or 6 tankers to get together, then you let your game rust because noobs like me get proto stomped every other match. I would fight back with my proto gear but it's not worth it because isk payout is so low that I cannot afford to lose proto especially when I'm playing with 15 fresh out of the academy and were in a losing battle. OMG I would like to write a nice, useful comment but I will just assume this is a troll post. Vegetation Monster wrote:2 jeep tries for each tank= 12 jeeps = 25k isk * 12= 300k isk. Nope. Ok, it is a troll post.
I assure you, i mean all of it.!!
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2014.02.19 14:46:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:When you allow 6 proto gal logis or 6 tankers to get together, then you let your game rust because noobs like me get proto stomped every other match. I would fight back with my proto gear but it's not worth it because isk payout is so low that I cannot afford to lose proto especially when I'm playing with 15 fresh out of the academy and were in a losing battle.
There is a squad finder. If you have a mic and work as a team you can be OP too. If you cant pull that off I got nothing for ya. you deserve to get rolled.
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Sam Booty
Valor Coalition
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Posted - 2014.02.19 15:30:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Some random stuff I have to say: We have grenade launchers that can launch grenades hundreds of meters without a huge arc but millions of years into the future and the mass driver shoots as if it is shooting a 30 ton skittle.
I actually like the arc the mas driver does. You can use it to your advantage shooting over your team mates or over obstacles. The only suggestion I would make is to increase the clip size a little bit. It is too small for main weapon. |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1225
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Posted - 2014.02.19 15:35:00 -
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Communication and organization is OP.
If only I had these skills in real life. My paperwork is always a mess. |
Derpty Derp
It's All Gone Derp
26
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Posted - 2014.02.19 23:08:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Derpty Derp wrote:6 tanks... The perfect opportunity to go for the multi-kill jihad I've only personally managed a tank and a jeep with one jihad 2 jeep tries for each tank= 12 jeeps = 25k isk * 12= 300k isk. Nope.
You do it for the honor! not the money... Plus somewhere out there, someone has a blueprint. |
The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
120
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Posted - 2014.02.19 23:20:00 -
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nerf squads!! |
CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
966
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Posted - 2014.02.19 23:42:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:When you allow 6 proto gal logis or 6 tankers to get together, then you let your game rust because noobs like me get proto stomped every other match. I would fight back with my proto gear but it's not worth it because isk payout is so low that I cannot afford to lose proto especially when I'm playing with 15 fresh out of the academy and were in a losing battle. There is a squad finder. If you have a mic and work as a team you can be OP too. If you cant pull that off I got nothing for ya. you deserve to get rolled.
Douche...
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2014.02.19 23:57:00 -
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CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:When you allow 6 proto gal logis or 6 tankers to get together, then you let your game rust because noobs like me get proto stomped every other match. I would fight back with my proto gear but it's not worth it because isk payout is so low that I cannot afford to lose proto especially when I'm playing with 15 fresh out of the academy and were in a losing battle. There is a squad finder. If you have a mic and work as a team you can be OP too. If you cant pull that off I got nothing for ya. you deserve to get rolled. Douche...
We live in a world where being honest and douchbaggery go hand in hand.
if you want people to like you tell them what they want to hear. If you want them to respect you tell them the truth.
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Croned
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Posted - 2014.02.20 00:00:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:When you allow 6 proto gal logis or 6 tankers to get together, then you let your game rust because noobs like me get proto stomped every other match. I would fight back with my proto gear but it's not worth it because isk payout is so low that I cannot afford to lose proto especially when I'm playing with 15 fresh out of the academy and were in a losing battle.
This isn't CoD. These maps are too large and dynamic to run solo the majority of the time. Join a corp or use the Squad Finder. And never use proto in pub matches unless you're really good already. Without practice at using lower-tier gear, you'll just burn through proto gear like gunpowder.
Son of a plasma cannon!
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Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
144
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Posted - 2014.02.20 00:08:00 -
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Croned wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:When you allow 6 proto gal logis or 6 tankers to get together, then you let your game rust because noobs like me get proto stomped every other match. I would fight back with my proto gear but it's not worth it because isk payout is so low that I cannot afford to lose proto especially when I'm playing with 15 fresh out of the academy and were in a losing battle. This isn't CoD. These maps are too large and dynamic to run solo the majority of the time. Join a corp or use the Squad Finder. And never use proto in pub matches unless you're really good already. Without practice at using lower-tier gear, you'll just burn through proto gear like gunpowder.
as you can see I am in a corp but people suck at this game... noobs in Tul suck and so do the noobs in squad finder... BTW, no matter what you do, your probably going to lose proto especially when your team if full of nubs and you are the only one actually wearing good gear.
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
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Posted - 2014.02.20 00:28:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:nerf squads!!
I don't recall pub stomping being as bad as today until squads expanded to six men.
CCP your matchmaking is better but still sucks a fair amount
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
144
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Posted - 2014.02.20 00:45:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:The Terminator T-1000 wrote:nerf squads!! I don't recall pub stomping being as bad as today until squads expanded to six men.
same!!
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Trenix Keltron
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
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Posted - 2014.02.20 00:46:00 -
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No, the hills are OP.
OUKH corporation recruitment active. Initiate enlistment protocols. The future is now
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Croned
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Posted - 2014.02.20 01:52:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Croned wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:When you allow 6 proto gal logis or 6 tankers to get together, then you let your game rust because noobs like me get proto stomped every other match. I would fight back with my proto gear but it's not worth it because isk payout is so low that I cannot afford to lose proto especially when I'm playing with 15 fresh out of the academy and were in a losing battle. This isn't CoD. These maps are too large and dynamic to run solo the majority of the time. Join a corp or use the Squad Finder. And never use proto in pub matches unless you're really good already. Without practice at using lower-tier gear, you'll just burn through proto gear like gunpowder. as you can see I am in a corp but people suck at this game... noobs in Tul suck and so do the noobs in squad finder... BTW, no matter what you do, your probably going to lose proto especially when your team if full of nubs and you are the only one actually wearing good gear.
That's why you don't use proto suits in pub matches. It's a Dust rule-of-thumb. And no, it's not like everyone in pub matches uses proto suits. They may use proto weapons or proto modules, but I rarely see a proto suit. The reason I'm speaking exclusively of suits is because the other types of proto gear, while expensive, don't drain your wallet dry like a proto suit will. That is, if you know how and when to use them.
Son of a plasma cannon!
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DEZKA DIABLO
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.02.20 02:23:00 -
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Last night 15/1 in 10000 isk dragonfly scout suit, no squad, don't follow the action, kill one then move, use dampeners an be fast no matter what suit you use. |
Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
146
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Posted - 2014.02.20 02:50:00 -
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Croned wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Croned wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:When you allow 6 proto gal logis or 6 tankers to get together, then you let your game rust because noobs like me get proto stomped every other match. I would fight back with my proto gear but it's not worth it because isk payout is so low that I cannot afford to lose proto especially when I'm playing with 15 fresh out of the academy and were in a losing battle. This isn't CoD. These maps are too large and dynamic to run solo the majority of the time. Join a corp or use the Squad Finder. And never use proto in pub matches unless you're really good already. Without practice at using lower-tier gear, you'll just burn through proto gear like gunpowder. as you can see I am in a corp but people suck at this game... noobs in Tul suck and so do the noobs in squad finder... BTW, no matter what you do, your probably going to lose proto especially when your team if full of nubs and you are the only one actually wearing good gear. That's why you don't use proto suits in pub matches. It's a Dust rule-of-thumb. And no, it's not like everyone in pub matches uses proto suits. They may use proto weapons or proto modules, but I rarely see a proto suit. The reason I'm speaking exclusively of suits is because the other types of proto gear, while expensive, don't drain your wallet dry like a proto suit will. That is, if you know how and when to use them.
you must be one of those dude that doesn't actually play but spends his time on forums. At least 5 people out of 16 have a proto suit and 10/16 are logis with dmg mods stacked and op rifles up...
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
482
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Posted - 2014.02.20 03:17:00 -
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Croned wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Croned wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:When you allow 6 proto gal logis or 6 tankers to get together, then you let your game rust because noobs like me get proto stomped every other match. I would fight back with my proto gear but it's not worth it because isk payout is so low that I cannot afford to lose proto especially when I'm playing with 15 fresh out of the academy and were in a losing battle. This isn't CoD. These maps are too large and dynamic to run solo the majority of the time. Join a corp or use the Squad Finder. And never use proto in pub matches unless you're really good already. Without practice at using lower-tier gear, you'll just burn through proto gear like gunpowder. as you can see I am in a corp but people suck at this game... noobs in Tul suck and so do the noobs in squad finder... BTW, no matter what you do, your probably going to lose proto especially when your team if full of nubs and you are the only one actually wearing good gear. That's why you don't use proto suits in pub matches. It's a Dust rule-of-thumb. And no, it's not like everyone in pub matches uses proto suits. They may use proto weapons or proto modules, but I rarely see a proto suit. The reason I'm speaking exclusively of suits is because the other types of proto gear, while expensive, don't drain your wallet dry like a proto suit will. That is, if you know how and when to use them.
I'm not sure who you're going up against, but I see proto suits on the other team all the time.
Two more points...
#1 - Proto guns cost more than the suits.
#2 - I run Proto 99% of the time, and my wallet hovers right around $100m.
If you don't die a lot, you can run them virtually always. Of course, it helps when you run in a squad (and a few of them carry a nanite injector). |
Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
146
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Posted - 2014.02.20 03:20:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Croned wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Croned wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:When you allow 6 proto gal logis or 6 tankers to get together, then you let your game rust because noobs like me get proto stomped every other match. I would fight back with my proto gear but it's not worth it because isk payout is so low that I cannot afford to lose proto especially when I'm playing with 15 fresh out of the academy and were in a losing battle. This isn't CoD. These maps are too large and dynamic to run solo the majority of the time. Join a corp or use the Squad Finder. And never use proto in pub matches unless you're really good already. Without practice at using lower-tier gear, you'll just burn through proto gear like gunpowder. as you can see I am in a corp but people suck at this game... noobs in Tul suck and so do the noobs in squad finder... BTW, no matter what you do, your probably going to lose proto especially when your team if full of nubs and you are the only one actually wearing good gear. That's why you don't use proto suits in pub matches. It's a Dust rule-of-thumb. And no, it's not like everyone in pub matches uses proto suits. They may use proto weapons or proto modules, but I rarely see a proto suit. The reason I'm speaking exclusively of suits is because the other types of proto gear, while expensive, don't drain your wallet dry like a proto suit will. That is, if you know how and when to use them. I'm not sure who you're going up against, but I see proto suits on the other team all the time. Two more points... #1 - Proto guns cost more than the suits. #2 - I run Proto 99% of the time, and my wallet hovers right around $100m. If you don't die a lot, you can run them virtually always. Of course, it helps when you run in a squad (and a few of them carry a nanite injector).
i just have to say that i was just in a game where i was in the middle of a clusterfuck of enemies in my commando suit and i took out 10 of them, 6 with remote explosives and the rest with railrifle and combat rifle for the ones that got close. some were proto. idk, i just had to say it.
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ERYN Warchild
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.20 03:21:00 -
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Aaaaaaw shucks I just charged that squad with advanced gear by myself! Man this game sucks that I died. I didn't even kill one of them! Dust is terrible! Why do people work together! They should just take out all the guns and armor! Everyone has the same things all of the time! |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.02.20 03:24:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:
i just have to say that i was just in a game where i was in the middle of a clusterfuck of enemies in my commando suit and i took out 10 of them, 6 with remote explosives and the rest with railrifle and combat rifle for the ones that got close. some were proto. idk, i just had to say it.
Whats your point?
If you bring 12 frigates to a fight and I bring 12 Cruisers I will win since I poured more ISK, time, and assets into the fight to over power you.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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LAVALLOIS Nash
QcGOLD
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Posted - 2014.02.20 03:36:00 -
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I wish there was a no squad casual mode so that part time people like me could just hop in and play a few games.
Last month I was considering buying 30$ of AUR cause I told myself "Ah, i can get a few boosters, some cosmetically nice AUR equipment, have a bit of fun, ect". But after about 3 matches in a row where my team was locked in our spawn behind the red line, i decided not to. Why should I put money into this game? These super corps and squads are the ones having all the fun. If CCP wants money, they should get it from them.
Not everyone is out to be the "best of the best". I just want to kill a few hours here and there. Why should i have to talk to a bunch of high pitched overly excitable teenagers just so I can have the chance to leave my spawn? Im not coming to Dust cause I have no social life and want to make friends. Yet the game is made so that it forces you to do so. I cant even have a friend over at my house to play this game together, cause there is no 2 player support, but im supposed to squad up each time I play. Makes no sense.
One of the only reasons Im still drawn to this game is because of keyboard and mouse support. (ex PC gamer). If they got rid of that Id probably close my account down and never mention the game ever again. |
DEZKA DIABLO
0uter.Heaven
221
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Posted - 2014.02.20 04:03:00 -
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The game has this thing called "team chat" where the developers expect people to organize, so that people are basically a 16 man sqd, go figure the game was built on team organization , then people b!tch because they don't wanna use it. |
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.02.20 04:52:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:When you allow 6 proto gal logis or 6 tankers to get together, then you let your game rust because noobs like me get proto stomped every other match. I would fight back with my proto gear but it's not worth it because isk payout is so low that I cannot afford to lose proto especially when I'm playing with 15 fresh out of the academy and were in a losing battle.
So..................... find a better corp, play with friends, and don't use PRO all the time. Why should my experience be ruined because of you?
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.02.20 05:06:00 -
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The bane that is matchmaking. I think some people missed that part of your post Vegetation Monster. Then again maybe you are fishing with a thread title, "Squads are OP..."
Here, have some candy and a Like. :-)
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AP Grasshopper
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.20 05:53:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Some random stuff I have to say: We have grenade launchers that can launch grenades hundreds of meters without a huge arc but millions of years into the future and the mass driver shoots as if it is shooting a 30 ton skittle.
Just in, i've shot real life grenade launchers and they do indeed have a large arc. Myth busted. |
Eberk Baldek
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
24
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Posted - 2014.02.20 08:09:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:When you allow 6 proto gal logis or 6 tankers to get together, then you let your game rust because noobs like me get proto stomped every other match. I would fight back with my proto gear but it's not worth it because isk payout is so low that I cannot afford to lose proto especially when I'm playing with 15 fresh out of the academy and were in a losing battle.
I don't know why you noobs even bother sticking around. I've been playing (and paying) for around 8 months and the game's done nothing but get a lot more difficult than when I started. I'm really disappointed with it at the moment and am looking forward to upcoming alternatives such as Destiny. Granted, maybe the current ongoing Heavy-Stomper week or the fact that I'm a below average player has something to do with it, but statistically 50% of us must be below average, and I'm not sure what that means in DUST 514 because I think there's nothing but hardcore supervet players left around here anyway. When the guys who've been around since just about the beginning are wearing their best suits and playing with their corps, they stomp just about everyone and everything. I used to think the game would get easier as I skilled up, but nothing could be farther from the truth. I've got 25 million SP and have skilled up my core skills (armor and shield included) and Assault Rifle and still get one-shotted and out-ranged by several overpowered weapons such as Rail Rifles, InvinciTanks, etc. What's the point of skilling into armor and shields if you're always getting one-shotted I ask? I had been naively hopeful that CCP would be interested in prioritising the attracting of new players, but so far no good. Instead, they seem to be dedicated to developing new OP gear (cloaked scout suits next?), which seem to mostly benefit the supervets who are sitting around on millions of spare SPs that they can instadrop on it. (Dare I mention the word "respec" lest this post be banned to the netherworld thread of the same topic? Because I want one in 1.8 because I don't think I could stand such a huge nerf to my gear and the thought of having to start over from scratch on the next FOTM gear. By the way, I've already had gear nerffed out of existence, f@ck you very much, so I suspect my Logi suits will be just about worthless as of 1.8.) So, go ahead, stick around for another 8 months and you too can look forward to becoming a bittervet.
To be fair, there are some basic bits in DUST 514 that I really love and that's why I'll probably be sticking around till at least Fanfest to see what carrots they dangle next. Hopefully, CCP will come through for us in the end and all this BETA-Game type nonsense will pass into videogame history.
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
976
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Posted - 2014.02.20 11:42:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Croned wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:When you allow 6 proto gal logis or 6 tankers to get together, then you let your game rust because noobs like me get proto stomped every other match. I would fight back with my proto gear but it's not worth it because isk payout is so low that I cannot afford to lose proto especially when I'm playing with 15 fresh out of the academy and were in a losing battle. This isn't CoD. These maps are too large and dynamic to run solo the majority of the time. Join a corp or use the Squad Finder. And never use proto in pub matches unless you're really good already. Without practice at using lower-tier gear, you'll just burn through proto gear like gunpowder. as you can see I am in a corp but people suck at this game... noobs in Tul suck and so do the noobs in squad finder... BTW, no matter what you do, your probably going to lose proto especially when your team if full of nubs and you are the only one actually wearing good gear.
Never never wear proto without a complimenting squad, you immediately put a target on your azz.
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
976
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Posted - 2014.02.20 11:48:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:The Terminator T-1000 wrote:nerf squads!! I don't recall pub stomping being as bad as today until squads expanded to six men.
Back when squads were only four players, there was a lot less proto running around. I remember when you saw a proto suit on the field it was very uncommon. Now it's vice versa with a basic suit.
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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Beld Errmon
0uter.Heaven
1363
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Posted - 2014.02.20 11:55:00 -
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Shouldn't hate on the guy for wanting to have a good game running solo, not everyone wants to run in a pack every time they play the game, but currently you need to or you are pretty much boned.
One day if the game actually starts to get popular and the player base grows, perhaps we will have squad and solo queues, but don't hold your breath. |
NEO Arbiter
Red Hand Syndicate
35
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Posted - 2014.02.20 12:15:00 -
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Hey I wants to join in on the qq too!!
A-Waaah! Squads! Waaaah!*sob* Waah! *sob* *tantrum*
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Vegetation Monster
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.02.20 14:27:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:When you allow 6 proto gal logis or 6 tankers to get together, then you let your game rust because noobs like me get proto stomped every other match. I would fight back with my proto gear but it's not worth it because isk payout is so low that I cannot afford to lose proto especially when I'm playing with 15 fresh out of the academy and were in a losing battle. So..................... find a better corp, play with friends, and don't use PRO all the time. Why should my experience be ruined because of you?
Your experience ruined? Maybe if you didn't spam proto gear we casual players with less sp may stand a chance. People who use proto gear in pubs is just damn stupid. Why are they acting as if it is a PC battle bringing out their best sh*t.
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AP Grasshopper wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Some random stuff I have to say: We have grenade launchers that can launch grenades hundreds of meters without a huge arc but millions of years into the future and the mass driver shoots as if it is shooting a 30 ton skittle. Just in, i've shot real life grenade launchers and they do indeed have a large arc. Myth busted.
not as bad as a mass driver...
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Vegetation Monster wrote:2 jeep tries for each tank= 12 jeeps = 25k isk * 12= 300k isk. Nope.
Even if I didn't have two LAV BPO's I'd still be throwing myself at them if I could get 6 tank kills in one game...
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Vegetation Monster
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DARKSTAR ARMY
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Rasatsu wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:2 jeep tries for each tank= 12 jeeps = 25k isk * 12= 300k isk. Nope. Even if I didn't have two LAV BPO's I'd still be throwing myself at them if I could get 6 tank kills in one game... Are everyone in DUST as much of a loser as you, or is it just the majority?
why spend 300k when you can do with a 77k isk sica 3-2 shotting everything.
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Fatal Absolution
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Vegetation Monster wrote: Teamwork is OP!
Yeah.
That's kind of the point.
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote: Teamwork is OP! Yeah. That's kind of the point.
try hards in pubs is OP. Can't i just go solo without getting fked over every match and redlines??
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Vegetation Monster wrote:why spend 300k when you can do with a 77k isk sica 3-2 shotting everything.
You are paper, I am scissor.
I cut your balls off, you scream like a girl.
Yeah, why would I _NOT_ spend 300k to laugh my ass off as I blow up 6 77k isk isca's? |
Vegetation Monster
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DARKSTAR ARMY
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Rasatsu wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:why spend 300k when you can do with a 77k isk sica 3-2 shotting everything. You are paper, I am scissor. I cut your balls off, you scream like a girl. Yeah, why would I _NOT_ spend 300k to laugh my ass off as I blow up 6 77k isk isca's?
90% of tankers are noobs and i assume you are too. You dont know me because this is an Alt but i have been tanking since open beta, i can put a lot more than 77k isk on the field if i wanted to (on my tank main cuz hes rich) but for me it takes not a penny more than 77k isk sica to blow up every mother fker on the field.
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Beld Errmon wrote:Shouldn't hate on the guy for wanting to have a good game running solo, not everyone wants to run in a pack every time they play the game, but currently you need to or you are pretty much boned.
One day if the game actually starts to get popular and the player base grows, perhaps we will have squad and solo queues, but don't hold your breath.
It upsets me, because it says under the Public Contracts description "For small squads or lone mercenaries". Im a lone mercenary when I play most of the time, and yet i run into teams that are 12 of the same super corps.
When CCP gives me a mode that is truly, for "small squads of lone mercenaries", then Ill consider putting real money into this game. Until then though, I can just have my games ruined for free. |
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Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Vegetation Monster wrote:AP Grasshopper wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Some random stuff I have to say: We have grenade launchers that can launch grenades hundreds of meters without a huge arc but millions of years into the future and the mass driver shoots as if it is shooting a 30 ton skittle. Just in, i've shot real life grenade launchers and they do indeed have a large arc. Myth busted. not as bad as a mass driver...
Based off your COD experience? or do you know what your talking about?
Proto in pubs in fine, blueberrys afk/sniping in the redline is not. Its frustrating getting owned, when you check the map and its you and two other dudes in your squad playing and the 13 other guys are in the redline sure. I could care less if I got shot with a rail rifle or a kalakiota rail rifle makes no difference to me I'd probably die either way sense there's only three of us fighting anyways. |
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LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Shouldn't hate on the guy for wanting to have a good game running solo, not everyone wants to run in a pack every time they play the game, but currently you need to or you are pretty much boned.
One day if the game actually starts to get popular and the player base grows, perhaps we will have squad and solo queues, but don't hold your breath. It upsets me, because it says under the Public Contracts description "For small squads or lone mercenaries". Im a lone mercenary when I play most of the time, and yet i run into teams that are 12 of the same super corps. When CCP gives me a mode that is truly, for "small squads of lone mercenaries", then Ill consider putting real money into this game. Until then though, I can just have my games ruined for free.
"small squads or lone mercenaries" doesn't imply low SP and poorly skilled players. There's only a few game modes where do you expect everyone else to play? Join a corp, get taught how to play because new eden is not a place for lone wolfs. |
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Remember when people thought the killer Bees were bad at least we only stacked shields and regulators with basic/adv equipment, gallogis stack 3 complex damage mods, 700 armor and proto equipment. No where near the outrage over gallente logis as there was for the cal logi which were easily countered by a std ScR or 1 std flux  .
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LAVALLOIS Nash
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AP Grasshopper wrote:
"small squads or lone mercenaries" doesn't imply low SP and poorly skilled players. There's only a few game modes where do you expect everyone else to play? Join a corp, get taught how to play because new eden is not a place for lone wolfs.
Thats ok, Id rather not be like you and your corp. Just because I get locked in my redline doesnt mean i have the urge to ruin the game for other people too.
i dont mind getting defeated, I dont mind losing. Heck, yesterday I played, lost a game, but had fun the entire time. I had fun losing. Im casual. This is not about "being better".
Its about games where most of the team is hiding in the MCC running down the clock because people like you have made it unfun and unplayable for them.
And that goes for both sides. Sometimes it puts me on the stacked team, and I just sitting around doing nothing cause again, the enemy team is just hiding running down the clock.
There is a difference between "difficult" and "unplayable". Difficult means I go 1/6, but me and my team still put up a good fight even if we lost. Unplayable means hiding in the MCC because as soon as you jump from it some proto sniper kills you as soon as you hit the ground.
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KILL-EM-QUICK
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AP Grasshopper wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:AP Grasshopper wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:Some random stuff I have to say: We have grenade launchers that can launch grenades hundreds of meters without a huge arc but millions of years into the future and the mass driver shoots as if it is shooting a 30 ton skittle. Just in, i've shot real life grenade launchers and they do indeed have a large arc. Myth busted. not as bad as a mass driver... Based off your COD experience? or do you know what your talking about? Proto in pubs in fine, blueberrys afk/sniping in the redline is not. Its frustrating getting owned, when you check the map and its you and two other dudes in your squad playing and the 13 other guys are in the redline sure. I could care less if I got shot with a rail rifle or a kalakiota rail rifle makes no difference to me I'd probably die either way sense there's only three of us fighting anyways.
I never played cod in my life...
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LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:AP Grasshopper wrote:
"small squads or lone mercenaries" doesn't imply low SP and poorly skilled players. There's only a few game modes where do you expect everyone else to play? Join a corp, get taught how to play because new eden is not a place for lone wolfs.
Thats ok, Id rather not be like you and your corp. Just because I get locked in my redline doesnt mean i have the urge to ruin the game for other people too. i dont mind getting defeated, I dont mind losing. Heck, yesterday I played, lost a game, but had fun the entire time. I had fun losing. Im casual. This is not about "being better". Its about games where most of the team is hiding in the MCC running down the clock because people like you have made it unfun and unplayable for them. And that goes for both sides. Sometimes it puts me on the stacked team, and I just sitting around doing nothing cause again, the enemy team is just hiding running down the clock. There is a difference between "difficult" and "unplayable". Difficult means I go 1/6, but me and my team still put up a good fight even if we lost. Unplayable means hiding in the MCC because as soon as you jump from it some proto sniper kills you as soon as you hit the ground. And again, I invite you to go ingame and read the description: "For small squads or lone mercenaries". Dont tell me there is no place for "lone mercenaries" when It infact says that as the description.
the game is set up for team based play. You can run solo if you choose. We just don't want to hear you cry when you get stomped by 6guys. I take that back. Tell us it is amusing hearing your foolish arguments.
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General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:29:00 -
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CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:The Terminator T-1000 wrote:nerf squads!! I don't recall pub stomping being as bad as today until squads expanded to six men. Back when squads were only four players, there was a lot less proto running around. I remember when you saw a proto suit on the field it was very uncommon. Now it's vice versa with a basic suit.
Maybe that's because less people had the SP for PRO?? It seems an obvious possibility to me, since SP are gained over time...
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:30:00 -
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LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:Why should i have to talk to a bunch of high pitched overly excitable teenagers just so I can have the chance to leave my spawn?
What in the world are you talking about? Stop qq'ing about made up complaints. I have yet to run into a single person which matches that description.
LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:Its about games where most of the team is hiding in the MCC running down the clock because people like you have made it unfun and unplayable for them.
I find this to be equally unbelievable. And it does CCP nor the community any good when so many people complain in hyperbole instead of calm, reasoned, and substantiated facts.
Is that actually happening, or does it just feel like it's happening. I play 2-4 matches most days of the week, pubs, skirm and dom only, 7-11pm US Central which I think is around 3 UTC. Sometimes squadded with my corp or alliance, sometimes I'm just going alone and joining an open squad when I get in the match. In nearly every match there are 1 or two players whose arrows I see way off on the edge of the map. Sometimes they are in vehicles, which is annoying but it's possible they are just trying to learn how to use them. (Still no PVE that we can self-train in.) Maybe they aren't in vehicle, so I'm hoping they are sniping. But I can't remember the last time I have been in a game where someone's just camping in the MCC, and certainly not "most of the team".
Your antecedents seem either exaggerated, completely baseless, or there is a major difference in playstyles at different times. But I'm frankly leaning towards exaggerated.
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:35:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:When you allow 6 proto gal logis or 6 tankers to get together, then you let your game rust because noobs like me get proto stomped every other match. I would fight back with my proto gear but it's not worth it because isk payout is so low that I cannot afford to lose proto especially when I'm playing with 15 fresh out of the academy and were in a losing battle.
This game revolves around teamwork, a heavy cannot do his job without a logi, a logi can not do his job without necessary backup etc..
Join a squad and see the difference it makes
But I agree that 6 tanks in a squad (looks at Duna) is OP. In 1.6 a tank squad made sense in order to survive but now its just a rollover
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Posted - 2014.02.20 16:40:00 -
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Problem = squads are op.
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Yokal Bob wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:When you allow 6 proto gal logis or 6 tankers to get together, then you let your game rust because noobs like me get proto stomped every other match. I would fight back with my proto gear but it's not worth it because isk payout is so low that I cannot afford to lose proto especially when I'm playing with 15 fresh out of the academy and were in a losing battle. This game revolves around teamwork, a heavy cannot do his job without a logi, a logi can not do his job without necessary backup etc.. Join a squad and see the difference it makes But I agree that 6 tanks in a squad (looks at Duna) is OP. In 1.6 a tank squad made sense in order to survive but now its just a rollover
a heavy can do his job without a logi and a logi can do his job without back up. Just look at those people who controll whole map with remotes and the ones sitting on triage hives...
"good" player don't want to play with players who use std and sometimes adv gear
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Yokal Bob wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:When you allow 6 proto gal logis or 6 tankers to get together, then you let your game rust because noobs like me get proto stomped every other match. I would fight back with my proto gear but it's not worth it because isk payout is so low that I cannot afford to lose proto especially when I'm playing with 15 fresh out of the academy and were in a losing battle. This game revolves around teamwork, a heavy cannot do his job without a logi, a logi can not do his job without necessary backup etc.. Join a squad and see the difference it makes But I agree that 6 tanks in a squad (looks at Duna) is OP. In 1.6 a tank squad made sense in order to survive but now its just a rollover a heavy can do his job without a logi and a logi can do his job without back up. Just look at those people who controll whole map with remotes and the ones sitting on triage hives... "good" player don't want to play with players who use std and sometimes adv gear
gimme any five guys. I will optimize their performance on the battlefield. If they have a mic of course. I have done over chat but its slow.
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General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.20 17:34:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:arrogant and/or performance-based-self-valued players don't want to play with players who use std and sometimes adv gear
fixed that for you
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first off how would you fix squads being OP?
secondly dust is a squad based shooter so...
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I honestly can't believe how many people suck at this game even more than I do. Just as soon as I have proto gear it's all I'm going to use. Ever. And do it as a random solo. F the squads. If you can't take a cpl off from a distance before you engage the rest you deserve to die over and over. Their crutch is beating yours. either do what they do or just shut up, QQ is just getting so old. How many times do you have to be shown how to win?
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Alternate Insano wrote:I honestly can't believe how many people suck at this game even more than I do. Just as soon as I have proto gear it's all I'm going to use. Ever. And do it as a random solo. F the squads. If you can't take a cpl off from a distance before you engage the rest you deserve to die over and over. Their crutch is beating yours. either do what they do or just shut up, QQ is just getting so old. How many times do you have to be shown how to win?
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Vegetation Monster wrote:Some random stuff I have to say: We have grenade launchers that can launch grenades hundreds of meters without a huge arc but millions of years into the future and the mass driver shoots as if it is shooting a 30 ton skittle.
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LAVALLOIS Nash
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Ankbar Latrommi wrote:
Your antecedents seem either exaggerated, completely baseless, or there is a major difference in playstyles at different times. But I'm frankly leaning towards exaggerated.
Ive seen your corp aggressively defend their "stomping" on these forums, so the objectivity/context of your claims could also be called into doubt.
However, im not here to attempt to invalidate/discredit your opinion so that I can advance my own agenda. im just pointing out that a gameplay option describes itself as being for solo mercs, when, infact, it is often not the case.
You can defend your reasons/motives as much as you like, you are allowed to do that. However, im also allowed to come to these forums and tell CCP why im not spending any real money in this game. As a casual person, I much prefer to spend a bit of real money instead of having to grind up SP and ISK because I dont always have the time to play. I keep a credit card here on my desk. i can afford to sink money into Free to play games. But Dust in its present state, im not charging it. Why? Cause the product delivered is not living up to the product description.
CCP has the right to know what is stopping them from making more money than they are now. When they deliver a mode where I can just go in and play casually for an hour, as advertised, ill pay out of pocket for the equipment ill use. If it says "this mode is for lone mercs", i dont want to be seeing some 12 people from 1 corp BS....regardless of what team they are on.
And again, since no one reads this part of my post, ill try again --------->I find it equally unfun to be on the stacked team camping out the redline<-------------- So telling me "well go squad up" does nothing. I dont want to be the stomper anymore than to be stomped. I like a fair fun game. I know, im weird like that.
i want more balanced matches. I dont care if i win, if I lose, If my KDR goes negative, ect. I just want to be able to get out of my redline and have a good fight. Or i want the enemy to have an equal chance to fight instead of getting locked in their redline.
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Posted - 2014.02.21 06:02:00 -
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LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:Ankbar Latrommi wrote:
Your antecedents seem either exaggerated, completely baseless, or there is a major difference in playstyles at different times. But I'm frankly leaning towards exaggerated.
Ive seen your corp aggressively defend their "stomping" on these forums, so the objectivity/context of your claims could also be called into doubt.
Since I only relatively just met these guys, and I have a total of 0 proto anything skilled at all, I'm not coming from any previously seen perspective, I'm guessing. I am a supporter of the sandbox of bring what you want, but at same time diff sites in Eve-O restrict ship size, so it wouldn't be out of the ballpark to pursue a similar thing here in Eve-D.
LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:When they deliver a mode where I can just go in and play casually for an hour, as advertised,
I think I'm reading you correctly to say that you want to be able to casually play a game which is as advertised, correct? Not that you want to be able to play a game casually which is what they advertised? You are totally free to shop for the experience you want(it'd be nice if that could go without saying,) and I think an FPS will be naturally more casual than a spaceship sim, but I doubt you'll ever get the full experience they advertise (when that day comes) while playing casually. It still might be enough for you, but it won't be everything. That's where I'd put my money, so to speak.
Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning."
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Ankbar Latrommi wrote:[quote=LAVALLOIS Nash]
I think I'm reading you correctly to say that you want to be able to casually play a game which is as advertised, correct? Not that you want to be able to play a game casually which is what they advertised? You are totally free to shop for the experience you want(it'd be nice if that could go without saying,) and I think an FPS will be naturally more casual than a spaceship sim, but I doubt you'll ever get the full experience they advertise (when that day comes) while playing casually. It still might be enough for you, but it won't be everything. That's where I'd put my money, so to speak.
Well i do play other games. Some of them I bought outright and play and some are F2P. Most of my other F2P games are PC games anyway. Its just, I like Dust, Id like to see it grow. I know if it gets popular enough, there will be enough people for a simple "quick join" mode.
Either way, it is what it is. Im the kind of person that when im enjoying a game, ill spend on average 20-30$ every 1.5 months. Because im busy in life, I may only play up to 10 hours a week. Im also not an amazing player, so i make a good target for players of all levels.
Compare that to someone who has so much ISK that they dont put money into the game, they spend 30+ hours a week playing, and scare off new players before they have a chance to get into the game.
Im where the money is at. Im a profitable player. I spend more and play less. If CCP finds a way to get the casual market like me very interested, they might get enough funding to deliver the content people have been waiting a long time for.
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