And everything should be on easymode like that helps them to feel like they have accomplished something . The meaning of hard work died after World War 2.

STD Minmatar assault: Basic CR, Toxin SMG, RE, Locus grenade, 3 complex shield extenders, 1 basic armor plate. EHP ~550: Cost ~16000 ISK
Proto Minmatar assault: Boundless CR, Toxin SMG, RE, M1 grenade, 4 complex shield extenders, 1 complex damage mod, 1 adv armor plate, 1 adv CPU upgrade. EHP ~830: Cost ~ I think just over 100k, but that's because I use the republic LP version to help lower cost, otherwise it would be higher.

Advantage/Disadvantage comparison assuming suits have maxed out core skills:

Advantage of the STD vs PRO:
1. I'm ALMOST as effective as the proto suit:
2. TTK is far too low to really make a difference in normal pubs.
3. It costs SO MUCH LESS.
3. Going against PRO suits while running STD forces you to start re-assessing your plan of attack if you want to take them down, making you a better player in general, which helps when using higher tier suits/weapons. (To an extent, hopefully it will require a more tactical approach in 1.8)

Disadvantages of the STD vs PRO:
1.Less CPU and PG requires you to actually think about how you are going to use the suit, and build specifically to that role.
2. Less EHP (with current TTK, it really only means a difference of 0.5sec in most cases, but is more detrimental in the fact that you don't have the EHP buffer against instant, high alpha damage weapons such as grenades, MD, SCR, and snipers)

Advantages of the PRO vs STD:
1. Higher CPU, PG, and slot layout allowing you to fit it whatever way you want (At current TTK its all about tank and gank, sadly)
2. Higher EHP (Giving you that buffer for instant high alpha damage weapons)
3. Longer optimal range on your weapon. (Marginal, but gives the edge in fights that really matter. Example: PC)
4. Higher damage on your weapon. (Marginal, but gives the edge in fights that really matter. Example: PC)

Disadvantages of PRO vs STD:
1. Cost (Its never been intended to be run as a primary loadout (If anything, I think that they should cost a little bit more than they currently do, so that they really mean that you are committed to the win VS making money) and should be deployed as such, only then should they have a higher advantage over the other suits, and even still only maybe 15-20%))
2. Doesn't give a HUGE advantage vs STD suits (~10% for weapons, and more fitting options for suits)



Just my thoughts.



Minmatar Assault, Logi, and Scout before 1.8, before it was cool.
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I agree on almost all of this except i see that closeness as a reason to improve prototype gear, if it's a wanting to win over gainingisk than it should have the capability to match said claim

It already does have the capability to match said claim. You wouldn't lose ISK running proto if you never lost a gunfight, now would you? The point is that proto allows you to win more fights in a row before going down... it already does that.

I know I'm about to get a lot of hatred for this but i believe prototype gear should be better, we all push to get prototype gear just to find out when we get it that it's so closely equal to advanced gear that it's almost not worth it entirely with examples to when you look at the attributes fot combat rifles or at least it pops up this way on my account but advanced combat rifles have more power than prototype combat rifles and the biggest damage gap between a basic and prototype weapon goes to the scrambler rifles with a difference of a prototype viziam doing only 7 more damage than the basic version and onky doing 4 more damage than the advanced crw, all other weapon ddamage gaps are much smaller and then you look at dropsuits and you're absolutely pissed when you notice all prototype suits have the same base armor and shields as their basic versions, the only thing they do right are modules and equipment but it's already confirmed that they'll nerf equipment in the next patch and probably they'll nerf module in the future too making prototype less desirable

First things first. Fix that wall of text. My eyes hurt.

Second: Proto gear SHOULD be better. Nobody I know argues against that.

The problem right now is the fact that there is no game mode where you can AVOID proto. Newberries get thrown into the meat grinder and get chewed up and spit out.

They need to do one of two things:

1.) Tiericide. Best answer by far. Proto suits become the basic versions. All other suits are simply specialized versions. Not better all around, but better in some areas, and worse in others.

2.) Restrict Basic, Advanced, and Proto gear in pubs. In short, you have modes where Basic is the highest you can use, Adv is the highest, and then "Low Sec" where anything goes. This will help player retention, and create areas where you can play against people at the same fitting level as you. (although you will still see some people going into basic with tricked out Core skill suits. That can't be helped. This is why Tiericide is the better option)

First things first. Fix that wall of text. My eyes hurt.

Second: Proto gear SHOULD be better. Nobody I know argues against that.

The problem right now is the fact that there is no game mode where you can AVOID proto. Newberries get thrown into the meat grinder and get chewed up and spit out.

They need to do one of two things:

1.) Tiericide. Best answer by far. Proto suits become the basic versions. All other suits are simply specialized versions. Not better all around, but better in some areas, and worse in others.

2.) Restrict Basic, Advanced, and Proto gear in pubs. In short, you have modes where Basic is the highest you can use, Adv is the highest, and then "Low Sec" where anything goes. This will help player retention, and create areas where you can play against people at the same fitting level as you. (although you will still see some people going into basic with tricked out Core skill suits. That can't be helped. This is why Tiericide is the better option)

I agree on almost all of this except i see that closeness as a reason to improve prototype gear, if it's a wanting to win over gainingisk than it should have the capability to match said claim

I know I'm about to get a lot of hatred for this but i believe prototype gear should be better, we all push to get prototype gear just to find out when we get it that it's so closely equal to advanced gear that it's almost not worth it entirely with examples to when you look at the attributes fot combat rifles or at least it pops up this way on my account but advanced combat rifles have more power than prototype combat rifles and the biggest damage gap between a basic and prototype weapon goes to the scrambler rifles with a difference of a prototype viziam doing only 7 more damage than the basic version and onky doing 4 more damage than the advanced crw, all other weapon ddamage gaps are much smaller and then you look at dropsuits and you're absolutely pissed when you notice all prototype suits have the same base armor and shields as their basic versions, the only thing they do right are modules and equipment but it's already confirmed that they'll nerf equipment in the next patch and probably they'll nerf module in the future too making prototype less desirable