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Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2809	Posted - 2014.02.12 00:06:00 - [1] - Quote It seems that the community support for PFC and the council is strong. Spero Escrow Services has received 800 million ISK to hold in escrow to cover the maintenance fees for 1 month of PFC operation to ensure that all members on Oddelulf III that have been an active part of PFC will have a chance to join the council and help set the rules. 400 million ISK was generously donated by Castor Crave and an additional 400 million was donated by a member of the community know to Spero Escrow Services that would like to remain anonymous. This seed fund will be used to maintain the Negative-Feedback contract with the PFC council and any associated expenses for the enforcement of council rulings and maintaining of the planet. Negative-Feedback would like to deeply thank these benefactors. Through their support there is even more assurance of the continuance of PFC and a that the PFC council will have what it needs to stand fast. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 310	Posted - 2014.02.12 00:11:00 - [2] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: It seems that the community support for PFC and the council is strong. Spero Escrow Services has received 800 million ISK to hold in escrow to cover the maintenance fees for 1 month of PFC operation to ensure that all members on Oddelulf III that have been an active part of PFC will have a chance to join the council and help set the rules. 400 million ISK was generously donated by Castor Crave and an additional 400 million was donated by a member of the community know to Spero Escrow Services that would like to remain anonymous. This seed fund will be used to maintain the Negative-Feedback contract with the PFC council and any associated expenses for the enforcement of council rulings and maintaining of the planet. Negative-Feedback would like to deeply thank these benefactors. Through their support there is even more assurance of the continuance of PFC and a that the PFC council will have what it needs to stand fast. I wish I could have my own district Just to get money to even out the proto odds 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 265	Posted - 2014.02.12 02:51:00 - [3] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: It seems that the community support for PFC and the council is strong. Spero Escrow Services has received 800 million ISK to hold in escrow to cover the maintenance fees for 1 month of PFC operation to ensure that all members on Oddelulf III that have been an active part of PFC will have a chance to join the council and help set the rules. 400 million ISK was generously donated by Castor Crave and an additional 400 million was donated by a member of the community know to Spero Escrow Services that would like to remain anonymous. This seed fund will be used to maintain the Negative-Feedback contract with the PFC council and any associated expenses for the enforcement of council rulings and maintaining of the planet. Negative-Feedback would like to deeply thank these benefactors. Through their support there is even more assurance of the continuance of PFC and a that the PFC council will have what it needs to stand fast. Nice, right on que. A "donation" that PROVES the people want this extortion. lol..If anyone buys this I have some ocean side property in Tennessee to sale as well. The meta continues.
SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 6	Posted - 2014.02.12 02:54:00 - [4] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Kain Spero wrote: It seems that the community support for PFC and the council is strong. Spero Escrow Services has received 800 million ISK to hold in escrow to cover the maintenance fees for 1 month of PFC operation to ensure that all members on Oddelulf III that have been an active part of PFC will have a chance to join the council and help set the rules. 400 million ISK was generously donated by Castor Crave and an additional 400 million was donated by a member of the community know to Spero Escrow Services that would like to remain anonymous. This seed fund will be used to maintain the Negative-Feedback contract with the PFC council and any associated expenses for the enforcement of council rulings and maintaining of the planet. Negative-Feedback would like to deeply thank these benefactors. Through their support there is even more assurance of the continuance of PFC and a that the PFC council will have what it needs to stand fast. Nice, right on que. A "donation" that PROVES the people want this extortion. lol..If anyone buys this I have some ocean side property in Tennessee to sale as well. The meta continues. I guess this means my land-owner is extorting me. How dare he charge me rent for something someone else whose rich can give me for free...
Glass Zeraki The Phoenix Federation 12	Posted - 2014.02.12 03:36:00 - [5] - Quote Lol Director of The Phoenix Federation. Shut up or I'll mute you.
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 942	Posted - 2014.02.12 04:49:00 - [6] - Quote Wait, Anon gave you money? I mean sure, it's about time he gave to the poor and needy, but you kain are neither. He should've given it to the Orphanage for abandoned militia dropsuits. beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 8	Posted - 2014.02.12 06:32:00 - [7] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: Wait, Anon gave you money? I mean sure, it's about time he gave to the poor and needy, but you kain are neither. He should've given it to the Orphanage for abandoned militia dropsuits. Anonymous - as in not revealing identity - not the player Anon Illuminate.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 268	Posted - 2014.02.12 09:28:00 - [8] - Quote SoldOut TryAgain wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: Wait, Anon gave you money? I mean sure, it's about time he gave to the poor and needy, but you kain are neither. He should've given it to the Orphanage for abandoned militia dropsuits. Anonymous - as in not revealing identity - not the player Anon Illuminate. EDIT: And if you knew how to read - the money isn't for Kane. Sucky sucky for Kane. You are sweet on him it seems.
Chuckles Brown 19	Posted - 2014.02.12 10:07:00 - [9] - Quote What does Spero do again? Sells a district then charges rent if certain rules aren't followed then hires mercs to take it back? So, whoever takes these districts for Spero, why can't they just keep them? What stops NF or RA from conquering PFC in a week and keeping it for themselves? The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 2307	Posted - 2014.02.12 14:02:00 - [10] - Quote Chuckles Brown wrote: What does Spero do again? Sells a district then charges rent if certain rules aren't followed then hires mercs to take it back? So, whoever takes these districts for Spero, why can't they just keep them? What stops NF or RA from conquering PFC in a week and keeping it for themselves? I haven't gotten much time to do research but Spero arranges fights and does anything relating to logistical and Defensive issues. I belive the district is free (don't quote me here) Moral warmth, more importantly good PR/Business, nothing stops AE, I think no one wants to get the bad PR for buring PFC, there's a huge difference between talking the talk and walking the walk. Listen I'll change the song every week

Cubs Secretary TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 33	Posted - 2014.02.12 14:18:00 - [11] - Quote Chuckles Brown wrote: What does Spero do again? Sells a district then charges rent if certain rules aren't followed then hires mercs to take it back? So, whoever takes these districts for Spero, why can't they just keep them? What stops NF or RA from conquering PFC in a week and keeping it for themselves? from the desk of Cubs: 'simple, simple answer. I'm involved. Internal checks and balances. The plain and simple truth is NF does what we ask cause I pay them. I get reimbursed from Escrow for contracts fulfilled. Unlike so many idiots around here, I still (for reasons unbeknownst to me) want to see PFC succeed, because regardless of your position, PFC is VERY important for the growth of the game. Yes I say things alluding to some morons thinking we are gonna burn it down, but in reality that's a direct response to the shortsighted, small-minded individuals that are either too stupid or incapable of looking at the bigger picture. Yes the incessant trolling will continue, because lets face it, that is what draws most to this game anymore. So few of the forum warriors you see here daily even play the game, much less regularly. just a fact' -----------------------------------end transmission------------------------------ Had to see a specialist to address the numbness in my fingers. Thank you all that sent 'Get Well' cards Im really touched. Bossman had a birthday earlier in the week, maybe that's why he even paid for my appointment Please take a number your call will be answered shortly. Sorry for the inconvenience
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 2307	Posted - 2014.02.12 14:29:00 - [12] - Quote Cubs Secretary wrote: Chuckles Brown wrote: What does Spero do again? Sells a district then charges rent if certain rules aren't followed then hires mercs to take it back? So, whoever takes these districts for Spero, why can't they just keep them? What stops NF or RA from conquering PFC in a week and keeping it for themselves? from the desk of Cubs: 'simple, simple answer. I'm involved. Internal checks and balances. The plain and simple truth is NF does what we ask cause I pay them. I get reimbursed from Escrow for contracts fulfilled. Unlike so many idiots around here, I still (for reasons unbeknownst to me) want to see PFC succeed, because regardless of your position, PFC is VERY important for the growth of the game. Yes I say things alluding to some morons thinking we are gonna burn it down, but in reality that's a direct response to the shortsighted, small-minded individuals that are either too stupid or incapable of looking at the bigger picture. Yes the incessant trolling will continue, because lets face it, that is what draws most to this game anymore. So few of the forum warriors you see here daily even play the game, much less regularly. just a fact' -----------------------------------end transmission------------------------------ Had to see a specialist to address the numbness in my fingers. Thank you all that sent 'Get Well' cards Im really touched. Bossman had a birthday earlier in the week, maybe that's why he even paid for my appointment Keep up the good work both of you... Listen I'll change the song every week
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2817	Posted - 2014.02.12 15:18:00 - [13] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Nice, right on que. A "donation" that PROVES the people want this extortion. lol..If anyone buys this I have some ocean side property in Tennessee to sale as well. The meta continues. Yep, the timing is excellent given the anti-PFC coalition that AE has been trying to assemble. There are those that both value PFC and trust Spero Escrow Services to manage the funds. Even Ancient Exiles directors have made use of SES's currency exchange. AE's alt corp Gods Among Men was stopped from flipping a PFC district last night under the PFC contract with NF at no charge to Granite Mercenary Division through the payment of crack FA team for defense. With a pool of capital NF can move forward with enforcing our contract with the PFC council with no need to ask for contributions from the PFC members. In four weeks NF will evaluate its contract and consult with the PFC council, which should be well established at that time. I suspect PFC will be healthy enough that we'll be able to move forward with pay on demand model especially if the seed fund remains healthy. Again Castor Crave and the other contributor have given PFC the breathing room it needs to focus on building up the council and the funds needed to both enforce the council and fund defense when needed. These next four weeks will be an excellent tracer bullet to see what is actually needed in terms of the PFC contract and what will be the best way forward to ensure that the most equitable and sustainable system is set up between the PFC members those that are in charge of the PFC enforcement contract. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 865	Posted - 2014.02.12 16:17:00 - [14] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Kain Spero wrote: It seems that the community support for PFC and the council is strong. Spero Escrow Services has received 800 million ISK to hold in escrow to cover the maintenance fees for 1 month of PFC operation to ensure that all members on Oddelulf III that have been an active part of PFC will have a chance to join the council and help set the rules. 400 million ISK was generously donated by Castor Crave and an additional 400 million was donated by a member of the community know to Spero Escrow Services that would like to remain anonymous. This seed fund will be used to maintain the Negative-Feedback contract with the PFC council and any associated expenses for the enforcement of council rulings and maintaining of the planet. Negative-Feedback would like to deeply thank these benefactors. Through their support there is even more assurance of the continuance of PFC and a that the PFC council will have what it needs to stand fast. Nice, right on que. A "donation" that PROVES the people want this extortion. lol..If anyone buys this I have some ocean side property in Tennessee to sale as well. The meta continues. I hear it's nice down there in the autumn, hook me up. CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 19	Posted - 2014.02.12 17:08:00 - [15] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: SoldOut TryAgain wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: Wait, Anon gave you money? I mean sure, it's about time he gave to the poor and needy, but you kain are neither. He should've given it to the Orphanage for abandoned militia dropsuits. Anonymous - as in not revealing identity - not the player Anon Illuminate. EDIT: And if you knew how to read - the money isn't for Kane. Sucky sucky for Kane. You are sweet on him it seems. Hi - It's SoTa. If you hadn't noticed - I know how to read. It gives me this strange ability to comprehend what people are telling me and break it down logically. I know, i know, why go through all the work when you can smash your head on a keyboard like you do? Seems to be how you play PC as well - but that's a topic we'll get too when you still haven't learned to shut up on the forums. Still love you though <3 KEQ lost out losing you.
Quickgloves SVER True Blood 958	Posted - 2014.02.12 17:28:00 - [16] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: It seems that the community support for PFC and the council is strong. Spero Escrow Services has received 800 million ISK to hold in escrow to cover the maintenance fees for 1 month of PFC operation to ensure that all members on Oddelulf III that have been an active part of PFC will have a chance to join the council and help set the rules. 400 million ISK was generously donated by Castor Crave and an additional 400 million was donated by a member of the community know to Spero Escrow Services that would like to remain anonymous. This seed fund will be used to maintain the Negative-Feedback contract with the PFC council and any associated expenses for the enforcement of council rulings and maintaining of the planet. Negative-Feedback would like to deeply thank these benefactors. Through their support there is even more assurance of the continuance of PFC and a that the PFC council will have what it needs to stand fast. TAX CREDIT AN GOVERMANET BAILOUT ALREADY!!! WTF I can see where this is going... ALL HAIL DEMOCRACY! ps i like leaving PFC alonme.. let the small corps fight over it. no one should govern it. let them handle like adults. an we all show some self control an leave it be .... I am BABY FREAKING JESUS MAN! ps ... CCP GIVE ME A JOB!
The Black Art Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 422	Posted - 2014.02.12 17:33:00 - [17] - Quote Where do I sign up to receive such donations? Sir Snugglz is a noob.
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San Renegade Alliance 440	Posted - 2014.02.12 17:38:00 - [18] - Quote This topic reminded me of a Curb your Enthusiasm episode heres the scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqncCjxGqGw
SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 19	Posted - 2014.02.12 17:41:00 - [19] - Quote Quickgloves wrote: Kain Spero wrote: It seems that the community support for PFC and the council is strong. Spero Escrow Services has received 800 million ISK to hold in escrow to cover the maintenance fees for 1 month of PFC operation to ensure that all members on Oddelulf III that have been an active part of PFC will have a chance to join the council and help set the rules. 400 million ISK was generously donated by Castor Crave and an additional 400 million was donated by a member of the community know to Spero Escrow Services that would like to remain anonymous. This seed fund will be used to maintain the Negative-Feedback contract with the PFC council and any associated expenses for the enforcement of council rulings and maintaining of the planet. Negative-Feedback would like to deeply thank these benefactors. Through their support there is even more assurance of the continuance of PFC and a that the PFC council will have what it needs to stand fast. TAX CREDIT AN GOVERMANET BAILOUT ALREADY!!! WTF I can see where this is going... ALL HAIL DEMOCRACY! ps i like leaving PFC alonme.. let the small corps fight over it. no one should govern it. let them handle like adults. an we all show some self control an leave it be .... Are you kidding? Even when groups 'dedicate' there time to police PFC it's been constantly abused for nearly a year. They had there chance to fix PFC themselves - they'd rather farm it and cry about it.
Quickgloves SVER True Blood 958	Posted - 2014.02.12 17:41:00 - [20] - Quote SoldOut TryAgain wrote: Quickgloves wrote: Kain Spero wrote: It seems that the community support for PFC and the council is strong. Spero Escrow Services has received 800 million ISK to hold in escrow to cover the maintenance fees for 1 month of PFC operation to ensure that all members on Oddelulf III that have been an active part of PFC will have a chance to join the council and help set the rules. 400 million ISK was generously donated by Castor Crave and an additional 400 million was donated by a member of the community know to Spero Escrow Services that would like to remain anonymous. This seed fund will be used to maintain the Negative-Feedback contract with the PFC council and any associated expenses for the enforcement of council rulings and maintaining of the planet. Negative-Feedback would like to deeply thank these benefactors. Through their support there is even more assurance of the continuance of PFC and a that the PFC council will have what it needs to stand fast. TAX CREDIT AN GOVERMANET BAILOUT ALREADY!!! WTF I can see where this is going... ALL HAIL DEMOCRACY! ps i like leaving PFC alonme.. let the small corps fight over it. no one should govern it. let them handle like adults. an we all show some self control an leave it be .... Are you kidding? Even when groups 'dedicate' there time to police PFC it's been constantly abused for nearly a year. They had there chance to fix PFC themselves - they'd rather farm it and cry about it. I think you missed my sarcasm when you came barging into the room. I am BABY FREAKING JESUS MAN! ps ... CCP GIVE ME A JOB!

Quickgloves SVER True Blood 958	Posted - 2014.02.12 17:45:00 - [21] - Quote In reality large allaicnes should set up renter zones. renters pay weekly or daily fess an primary land ownsers fight all the fights free of charge becasue they collect rent.. If i rent a house an my heater breaks. I call the landlord they come fix it then leave they dont come fix it an handn me a bill...its covered in my rent. I say landowners rent set fee for districts say.. 30 percent just to say... every day they pay like 4 million to landlord.. so satruday they get attacked they have a choice fight it themselves or call the landlord to come fix the problem.. landlord shows fights an goes home an collects his rent check when its doue the next day. I am BABY FREAKING JESUS MAN! ps ... CCP GIVE ME A JOB!
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2825	Posted - 2014.02.12 17:50:00 - [22] - Quote The Black Art wrote: Where do I sign up to receive such donations? FA has already received part of it filling out two PFC contracts successfully. Those ringing in defense of PFC or to enforce PFC council through the NF PFC contract will be compensated from the PFC fund. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 19	Posted - 2014.02.12 17:53:00 - [23] - Quote Quickgloves wrote: SoldOut TryAgain wrote: Quickgloves wrote: Kain Spero wrote: It seems that the community support for PFC and the council is strong. Spero Escrow Services has received 800 million ISK to hold in escrow to cover the maintenance fees for 1 month of PFC operation to ensure that all members on Oddelulf III that have been an active part of PFC will have a chance to join the council and help set the rules. 400 million ISK was generously donated by Castor Crave and an additional 400 million was donated by a member of the community know to Spero Escrow Services that would like to remain anonymous. This seed fund will be used to maintain the Negative-Feedback contract with the PFC council and any associated expenses for the enforcement of council rulings and maintaining of the planet. Negative-Feedback would like to deeply thank these benefactors. Through their support there is even more assurance of the continuance of PFC and a that the PFC council will have what it needs to stand fast. TAX CREDIT AN GOVERMANET BAILOUT ALREADY!!! WTF I can see where this is going... ALL HAIL DEMOCRACY! ps i like leaving PFC alonme.. let the small corps fight over it. no one should govern it. let them handle like adults. an we all show some self control an leave it be .... Are you kidding? Even when groups 'dedicate' there time to police PFC it's been constantly abused for nearly a year. They had there chance to fix PFC themselves - they'd rather farm it and cry about it. I think you missed my sarcasm when you came barging into the room. Sarcasm? Online? I think you forget where you are. That comment doesn't have even a hint of sarcasm when I read it. You'll need to add certain adjectives and rolled-eye faces if you want to sell home the sarcasm.
Quickgloves SVER True Blood 962	Posted - 2014.02.12 18:26:00 - [24] - Quote SoldOut TryAgain wrote: Quickgloves wrote: SoldOut TryAgain wrote: Quickgloves wrote: Kain Spero wrote: It seems that the community support for PFC and the council is strong. Spero Escrow Services has received 800 million ISK to hold in escrow to cover the maintenance fees for 1 month of PFC operation to ensure that all members on Oddelulf III that have been an active part of PFC will have a chance to join the council and help set the rules. 400 million ISK was generously donated by Castor Crave and an additional 400 million was donated by a member of the community know to Spero Escrow Services that would like to remain anonymous. This seed fund will be used to maintain the Negative-Feedback contract with the PFC council and any associated expenses for the enforcement of council rulings and maintaining of the planet. Negative-Feedback would like to deeply thank these benefactors. Through their support there is even more assurance of the continuance of PFC and a that the PFC council will have what it needs to stand fast. TAX CREDIT AN GOVERMANET BAILOUT ALREADY!!! WTF I can see where this is going... ALL HAIL DEMOCRACY! ps i like leaving PFC alonme.. let the small corps fight over it. no one should govern it. let them handle like adults. an we all show some self control an leave it be .... Are you kidding? Even when groups 'dedicate' there time to police PFC it's been constantly abused for nearly a year. They had there chance to fix PFC themselves - they'd rather farm it and cry about it. I think you missed my sarcasm when you came barging into the room. Sarcasm? Online? I think you forget where you are. That comment doesn't have even a hint of sarcasm when I read it. You'll need to add certain adjectives and rolled-eye faces if you want to sell home the sarcasm. dangnabbit..all these rules I thought my eye popping emoticon was the right choice.. That's it I quit I am BABY FREAKING JESUS MAN! ps ... CCP GIVE ME A JOB!
CR4SH OVERRIDE 22	Posted - 2014.02.12 18:29:00 - [25] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: The Black Art wrote: Where do I sign up to receive such donations? FA has already received part of it filling out two PFC contracts successfully. Those ringing in defense of PFC or to enforce PFC council through the NF PFC contract will be compensated from the PFC fund. He has to be online to get paid first. Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 2/22/2014 3:38:16 AM.
SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 20	Posted - 2014.02.12 18:36:00 - [26] - Quote Quickgloves wrote: dangnabbit..all these rules I thought my eye popping emoticon was the right choice.. That's it I quit You're getting there! Just hang on a bit more - your grammar improved majorly since the Closed Beta Tournament.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 272	Posted - 2014.02.12 19:00:00 - [27] - Quote Cubs Secretary wrote: Chuckles Brown wrote: What does Spero do again? Sells a district then charges rent if certain rules aren't followed then hires mercs to take it back? So, whoever takes these districts for Spero, why can't they just keep them? What stops NF or RA from conquering PFC in a week and keeping it for themselves? from the desk of Cubs: 'simple, simple answer. I'm involved. Internal checks and balances. The plain and simple truth is NF does what we ask cause I pay them. I get reimbursed from Escrow for contracts fulfilled. Unlike so many idiots around here, I still (for reasons unbeknownst to me) want to see PFC succeed, because regardless of your position, PFC is VERY important for the growth of the game. Yes I say things alluding to some morons thinking we are gonna burn it down, but in reality that's a direct response to the shortsighted, small-minded individuals that are either too stupid or incapable of looking at the bigger picture. Yes the incessant trolling will continue, because lets face it, that is what draws most to this game anymore. So few of the forum warriors you see here daily even play the game, much less regularly. just a fact' -----------------------------------end transmission------------------------------ Had to see a specialist to address the numbness in my fingers. Thank you all that sent 'Get Well' cards Im really touched. Bossman had a birthday earlier in the week, maybe that's why he even paid for my appointment Have you ever thought that maybe you were referring to yourself?
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 272	Posted - 2014.02.12 19:01:00 - [28] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: The Black Art wrote: Where do I sign up to receive such donations? FA has already received part of it filling out two PFC contracts successfully. Those ringing in defense of PFC or to enforce PFC council through the NF PFC contract will be compensated from the PFC fund. You did not defend PFC. You blatantly stole a district from a RofL member because they refused to pay your extortion fee. Simple fact and simple truth.
Quickgloves SVER True Blood 963	Posted - 2014.02.12 19:03:00 - [29] - Quote SoldOut TryAgain wrote: Quickgloves wrote: dangnabbit..all these rules I thought my eye popping emoticon was the right choice.. That's it I quit You're getting there! Just hang on a bit more - your grammar improved majorly since the Closed Beta Tournament. now I think I get it..... I truly value your opinion! I am BABY FREAKING JESUS MAN! ps ... CCP GIVE ME A JOB!
CR4SH OVERRIDE 22	Posted - 2014.02.12 19:12:00 - [30] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Kain Spero wrote: The Black Art wrote: Where do I sign up to receive such donations? FA has already received part of it filling out two PFC contracts successfully. Those ringing in defense of PFC or to enforce PFC council through the NF PFC contract will be compensated from the PFC fund. You did not defend PFC. You blatantly stole a district from a RofL member because they refused to pay your extortion fee. Simple fact and simple truth. Kain.. what was the reasoning behind removing Sub Syn? Since you are making everything crystal clear and publicly known... I don't think you would have a difficult time answering this question. Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 2/22/2014 3:38:16 AM.

SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 21	Posted - 2014.02.12 19:25:00 - [31] - Quote CR4SH OVERRIDE wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Kain Spero wrote: The Black Art wrote: Where do I sign up to receive such donations? FA has already received part of it filling out two PFC contracts successfully. Those ringing in defense of PFC or to enforce PFC council through the NF PFC contract will be compensated from the PFC fund. You did not defend PFC. You blatantly stole a district from a RofL member because they refused to pay your extortion fee. Simple fact and simple truth. Kain.. what was the reasoning behind removing Sub Syn? Since you are making everything crystal clear and publicly known... I don't think you would have a difficult time answering this question. There was a contractor for the district, that's pretty much it. Lots of corps want on PFC for a long time now - and NF always denied PFC contracts as it would interfere in DDB's or AE's "PFC" policing. But since that's over and corps are behaving irrationally and offensively - we've taken back our policy of denying PFC contracts. If you aren't paying security then YOU GET NO SECURITY. NF will now accept contracts flipping PFC districts against corps not aligned with the PFC council. Sorry if this upsets a few - maybe they could hire AE to defend them? I'm sure their normal merc fees are... a lot higher then PFCC's rental fee Lol Maybe they'll get lucky and they'll ring for free? <3 But that's pretty much bottom line. We aren't gunning for the little guys - but lots of people are willing to pay us to do so. We do deny a lot of these types of contracts still in favor of AE matches, but such is life.
CR4SH OVERRIDE 22	Posted - 2014.02.12 19:28:00 - [32] - Quote SoldOut TryAgain wrote: CR4SH OVERRIDE wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Kain Spero wrote: The Black Art wrote: Where do I sign up to receive such donations? FA has already received part of it filling out two PFC contracts successfully. Those ringing in defense of PFC or to enforce PFC council through the NF PFC contract will be compensated from the PFC fund. You did not defend PFC. You blatantly stole a district from a RofL member because they refused to pay your extortion fee. Simple fact and simple truth. Kain.. what was the reasoning behind removing Sub Syn? Since you are making everything crystal clear and publicly known... I don't think you would have a difficult time answering this question. There was a contractor for the district, that's pretty much it. Lots of corps want on PFC for a long time now - and NF always denied PFC contracts as it would interfere in DDB's or AE's "PFC" policing. But since that's over and corps are behaving irrationally and offensively - we've taken back our policy of denying PFC contracts. If you aren't paying security then YOU GET NO SECURITY. NF will now accept contracts flipping PFC districts against corps not aligned with the PFC council. Sorry if this upsets a few - maybe they could hire AE to defend them? I'm sure their normal merc fees are... a lot higher then PFCC's rental fee Lol Maybe they'll get lucky and they'll ring for free? <3 But that's pretty much bottom line. We aren't gunning for the little guys - but lots of people are willing to pay us to do so. We do deny a lot of these types of contracts still in favor of AE matches, but such is life. SO because the fees were paid by donors... do they get their PFC district back until the 1 month or isk has run out? That only seems fair considering the dues were paid... even though not by the actual corp using the district. Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 2/22/2014 3:38:16 AM.
SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 21	Posted - 2014.02.12 19:33:00 - [33] - Quote idk - your argument would stand if the attack wasn't launched before the donation - which I believe it was, so they weren't apart of the donation as they were already being removed.
CR4SH OVERRIDE 22	Posted - 2014.02.12 19:42:00 - [34] - Quote So other than not paying for the protection plan.. what did they do wrong to get removed from PFC? Locking districts? Launching attacks from PFC into the rest of MH? Not fighting or "farming?" This leads me to the 2nd part.... NF contracted out FA to do the removal. Will this be the model moving forward? "pay the fee or we will pay a merc corp to remove you (With the $ that the other district leaders have paid for protection)?" Because as much as they have claimed this isn't extortion... that is by definition EXTORTION. Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 2/22/2014 3:38:16 AM.
Cubs Secretary TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 40	Posted - 2014.02.12 20:04:00 - [35] - Quote CR4SH OVERRIDE wrote: So other than not paying for the protection plan.. what did they do wrong to get removed from PFC? Locking districts? Launching attacks from PFC into the rest of MH? Not fighting or "farming?" This leads me to the 2nd part.... NF contracted out FA to do the removal. Will this be the model moving forward? "pay the fee or we will pay a merc corp to remove you (With the $ that the other district leaders have paid for protection)?" Because as much as they have claimed this isn't extortion... that is by definition EXTORTION. from the desk of Cubs: FA was contracted due to NF already being booked at the time, thus subcontracted the contract. Simple business. Call it Extortion, call it a scam, call it Secret Santa, no one gives a flying F@#k. simple fact is just that.. this is how it is now and squatters, **** talkers and people I plain just don't like are gone. deal with it. everyone else, get with the council and have a voice. decide who is coming on board, decide timeframe for residence, decide that people are in fact allowed to stay on PFC. arguments for this in public are currently closed. the council is determining the course of action they wish to take, and NF is sitting here ready to throw darts... lets see what happens first Sorry for the heavy dose of REALITY, but this is how it is everywhere else. Take your silver spoon to the pawn shop and trade it in for a shovel and some boots ---------------------------------------end transmission------------------------------------------- Please take a number your call will be answered shortly. Sorry for the inconvenience
SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 21	Posted - 2014.02.12 20:08:00 - [36] - Quote CR4SH OVERRIDE wrote: So other than not paying for the protection plan.. what did they do wrong to get removed from PFC? Locking districts? Launching attacks from PFC into the rest of MH? Not fighting or "farming?" This leads me to the 2nd part.... NF contracted out FA to do the removal. Will this be the model moving forward? "pay the fee or we will pay a merc corp to remove you (With the $ that the other district leaders have paid for protection)?" Because as much as they have claimed this isn't extortion... that is by definition EXTORTION. Excuse me, idiot, do you know how to read? No, don't bother, I already know. It's "Barely" Quote: Lots of corps want on PFC for a long time now - and NF always denied PFC contracts as it would interfere in DDB's or AE's "PFC" policing. But since that's over and corps are behaving irrationally and offensively - we've taken back our policy of denying PFC contracts. If you aren't paying security then YOU GET NO SECURITY. NF will now accept contracts flipping PFC districts against corps not aligned with the PFC council. as for the second part: PFC is a business model in general, governed by PFC Council - NOT NF. We're the back-bone, and loudest, because we're the only group pushing this forward. But we won't always be around in this game - the system exists so another corp can be hired by PFCC to do what we're doing. So take the FA vs PFC game for instance - PFC Council basically hired them - not NF.
CR4SH OVERRIDE 22	Posted - 2014.02.12 20:20:00 - [37] - Quote SoldOut TryAgain wrote: CR4SH OVERRIDE wrote: So other than not paying for the protection plan.. what did they do wrong to get removed from PFC? Locking districts? Launching attacks from PFC into the rest of MH? Not fighting or "farming?" This leads me to the 2nd part.... NF contracted out FA to do the removal. Will this be the model moving forward? "pay the fee or we will pay a merc corp to remove you (With the $ that the other district leaders have paid for protection)?" Because as much as they have claimed this isn't extortion... that is by definition EXTORTION. Excuse me, do you know how to read? No, don't bother, I already know. It's "Barely" Quote: Lots of corps want on PFC for a long time now - and NF always denied PFC contracts as it would interfere in DDB's or AE's "PFC" policing. But since that's over and corps are behaving irrationally and offensively - we've taken back our policy of denying PFC contracts. If you aren't paying security then YOU GET NO SECURITY. NF will now accept contracts flipping PFC districts against corps not aligned with the PFC council. as for the second part: PFC is a business model in general, governed by PFC Council - NOT NF. We're the back-bone, and loudest, because we're the only group pushing this forward. But we won't always be around in this game - the system exists so another corp can be hired by PFCC to do what we're doing. So take the FA vs PFC game for instance - PFC Council basically hired them - not NF. Understood... PFC council deemed SS not worth of a PFC district... my questions has been answered... after all the hot air being blown around. It was a simple question with a simple answer that was finally given after several posts. Sorry for all the "drama." Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 2/22/2014 3:38:16 AM.
SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 23	Posted - 2014.02.12 20:27:00 - [38] - Quote CR4SH OVERRIDE wrote: SoldOut TryAgain wrote: CR4SH OVERRIDE wrote: So other than not paying for the protection plan.. what did they do wrong to get removed from PFC? Locking districts? Launching attacks from PFC into the rest of MH? Not fighting or "farming?" This leads me to the 2nd part.... NF contracted out FA to do the removal. Will this be the model moving forward? "pay the fee or we will pay a merc corp to remove you (With the $ that the other district leaders have paid for protection)?" Because as much as they have claimed this isn't extortion... that is by definition EXTORTION. Excuse me, do you know how to read? No, don't bother, I already know. It's "Barely" Quote: Lots of corps want on PFC for a long time now - and NF always denied PFC contracts as it would interfere in DDB's or AE's "PFC" policing. But since that's over and corps are behaving irrationally and offensively - we've taken back our policy of denying PFC contracts. If you aren't paying security then YOU GET NO SECURITY. NF will now accept contracts flipping PFC districts against corps not aligned with the PFC council. as for the second part: PFC is a business model in general, governed by PFC Council - NOT NF. We're the back-bone, and loudest, because we're the only group pushing this forward. But we won't always be around in this game - the system exists so another corp can be hired by PFCC to do what we're doing. So take the FA vs PFC game for instance - PFC Council basically hired them - not NF. Understood... PFC council deemed SS not worth of a PFC district... my questions has been answered... after all the hot air being blown around. It was a simple question with a simple answer that was finally given after several posts. Sorry for all the "drama." Drama is what the War Room is all about - gotta entertain the masses - CCP sure as hell won't. Lol
CR4SH OVERRIDE 22	Posted - 2014.02.12 20:30:00 - [39] - Quote Cubs Secretary wrote: CR4SH OVERRIDE wrote: So other than not paying for the protection plan.. what did they do wrong to get removed from PFC? Locking districts? Launching attacks from PFC into the rest of MH? Not fighting or "farming?" This leads me to the 2nd part.... NF contracted out FA to do the removal. Will this be the model moving forward? "pay the fee or we will pay a merc corp to remove you (With the $ that the other district leaders have paid for protection)?" Because as much as they have claimed this isn't extortion... that is by definition EXTORTION. from the desk of Cubs: FA was contracted due to NF already being booked at the time, thus subcontracted the contract. Simple business. Call it Extortion, call it a scam, call it Secret Santa, no one gives a flying F@#k. simple fact is just that.. this is how it is now and squatters, **** talkers and people I plain just don't like are gone. deal with it. everyone else, get with the council and have a voice. decide who is coming on board, decide timeframe for residence, decide that people are in fact allowed to stay on PFC. arguments for this in public are currently closed. the council is determining the course of action they wish to take, and NF is sitting here ready to throw darts... lets see what happens first Sorry for the heavy dose of REALITY, but this is how it is everywhere else. Take your silver spoon to the pawn shop and trade it in for a shovel and some boots ---------------------------------------end transmission------------------------------------------- I don't really have to deal with it... I am not a part of PFC other than getting paid to be the ones flipping the districts apparently. I am just against a corp that is using their PFC district as intended being booted off because they don't pay the fees... but if that is the new way that PFC is being run... they will either have to roll with the punches or find out a new way to train their guys. I have been a supporter of PFC since I first learned of its existence. I know my opinions and thoughts mean 2shits to everyone as I am just a peon in this game. Just looking for answers to a few simple questions. Not trying to start a bunch of crap. Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 2/22/2014 3:38:16 AM.
SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 24	Posted - 2014.02.12 20:36:00 - [40] - Quote CR4SH OVERRIDE wrote: Cubs Secretary wrote: CR4SH OVERRIDE wrote: So other than not paying for the protection plan.. what did they do wrong to get removed from PFC? Locking districts? Launching attacks from PFC into the rest of MH? Not fighting or "farming?" This leads me to the 2nd part.... NF contracted out FA to do the removal. Will this be the model moving forward? "pay the fee or we will pay a merc corp to remove you (With the $ that the other district leaders have paid for protection)?" Because as much as they have claimed this isn't extortion... that is by definition EXTORTION. from the desk of Cubs: FA was contracted due to NF already being booked at the time, thus subcontracted the contract. Simple business. Call it Extortion, call it a scam, call it Secret Santa, no one gives a flying F@#k. simple fact is just that.. this is how it is now and squatters, **** talkers and people I plain just don't like are gone. deal with it. everyone else, get with the council and have a voice. decide who is coming on board, decide timeframe for residence, decide that people are in fact allowed to stay on PFC. arguments for this in public are currently closed. the council is determining the course of action they wish to take, and NF is sitting here ready to throw darts... lets see what happens first Sorry for the heavy dose of REALITY, but this is how it is everywhere else. Take your silver spoon to the pawn shop and trade it in for a shovel and some boots ---------------------------------------end transmission------------------------------------------- I don't really have to deal with it... I am not a part of PFC other than getting paid to be the ones flipping the districts apparently. I am just against a corp that is using their PFC district as intended being booted off because they don't pay the fees... but if that is the new way that PFC is being run... they will either have to roll with the punches or find out a new way to train their guys. I have been a supporter of PFC since I first learned of its existence. I know my opinions and thoughts mean 2shits to everyone as I am just a peon in this game. Just looking for answers to a few simple questions. Not trying to start a bunch of crap. I lik your views on PFC - we all had them at one point. But realistically PFC is a disaster upon itself. If one corp abuses rampantly then all corps can - so it has to be stomped. It's sad PFC can't continue to be a charity drive - but besides TP - every corp giving 'charity' police on PFC has been biased or barely did what they said they'd set out to do when they laid in new rules. So to all those crying about PFC - DO SOMETHING YOURSELF OR SHUT THE FLYING FYCK UP. :)

Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 2592	Posted - 2014.02.12 20:38:00 - [41] - Quote <3 the drama in this thread So much butthurt from PFC Selling Templar BPO's(325Mil) Richest Dust corp per capita, 100% corp activity ;-)
CR4SH OVERRIDE 23	Posted - 2014.02.12 20:49:00 - [42] - Quote It sucks that the few that were doing things right get penalized for the few that were focking up... but so is the way of the world. They will have to adapt or die.. Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 2/22/2014 3:38:16 AM.
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2014.02.12 21:12:00 - [43] - Quote Every dog has its day. Let us see how long the PFC land owners like this new council BS / extortion when they never get to play because NF/FA are always defending it for them. Either a whole lot more private donations better start coming in or FA might need to lower their Ringing charges because 800 million isk isn't going to last long.
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1733	Posted - 2014.02.12 21:41:00 - [44] - Quote Well on behalf of Forsaken Immortals I would like to thank Castor and the anonymous donor this is a very generous gesture and hopefully will allow the more hesitant to focus on how PFC is being run and not on the ISK. Lead Diplomat for Forsaken Immortals.
SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 26	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:04:00 - [45] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: Every dog has its day. Let us see how long the PFC land owners like this new council BS / extortion when they never get to play because NF/FA are always defending it for them. Either a whole lot more private donations better start coming in or FA might need to lower their Ringing charges because 800 million isk isn't going to last long. Oh, 800mil isn't going to last?! But, how?! Isn't the main problem everyone has with PFC is that NF is just trying to get rich off of it - but 800mil won't last?! Haaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I love how this community contradicts itself just to troll. Feed me more BS plz. Oh, and, the logic of, "If NF is defending your district then you'll never get to play" is the worst argument yet. We only defend from corps looking to flip there district and are on the verge of doing so - we come in last game, make sure it doesn't happen. Or if it does happen - we spend this ISK to make sure the group gets it back - and we'll continue to hit that district until it happens. Let's see how many more tears you anti-pfc scrubs can come up with. I don't even care about the subject anymore - I'm here to farm stupidity.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 275	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:10:00 - [46] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: Well on behalf of Forsaken Immortals I would like to thank Castor and the anonymous donor this is a very generous gesture and hopefully will allow the more hesitant to focus on how PFC is being run and not on the ISK. There was no donation dude. This is more Kane "meta". If you believe that someone donated 800 million to defend PFc you have issues kid.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 275	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:12:00 - [47] - Quote Cubs Secretary wrote: CR4SH OVERRIDE wrote: So other than not paying for the protection plan.. what did they do wrong to get removed from PFC? Locking districts? Launching attacks from PFC into the rest of MH? Not fighting or "farming?" This leads me to the 2nd part.... NF contracted out FA to do the removal. Will this be the model moving forward? "pay the fee or we will pay a merc corp to remove you (With the $ that the other district leaders have paid for protection)?" Because as much as they have claimed this isn't extortion... that is by definition EXTORTION. from the desk of Cubs: FA was contracted due to NF already being booked at the time, thus subcontracted the contract. Simple business. Call it Extortion, call it a scam, call it Secret Santa, no one gives a flying F@#k. simple fact is just that.. this is how it is now and squatters, **** talkers and people I plain just don't like are gone. deal with it. everyone else, get with the council and have a voice. decide who is coming on board, decide timeframe for residence, decide that people are in fact allowed to stay on PFC. arguments for this in public are currently closed. the council is determining the course of action they wish to take, and NF is sitting here ready to throw darts... lets see what happens first Sorry for the heavy dose of REALITY, but this is how it is everywhere else. Take your silver spoon to the pawn shop and trade it in for a shovel and some boots ---------------------------------------end transmission------------------------------------------- funny, I don't think you determine what is closed or what is open here. You may not participate in the conversations about it, but it will remain open. I doubt you can ignore what will be said, your feminine said outweighs your mail said by plenty.
SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 26	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:16:00 - [48] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Cubs Secretary wrote: CR4SH OVERRIDE wrote: So other than not paying for the protection plan.. what did they do wrong to get removed from PFC? Locking districts? Launching attacks from PFC into the rest of MH? Not fighting or "farming?" This leads me to the 2nd part.... NF contracted out FA to do the removal. Will this be the model moving forward? "pay the fee or we will pay a merc corp to remove you (With the $ that the other district leaders have paid for protection)?" Because as much as they have claimed this isn't extortion... that is by definition EXTORTION. from the desk of Cubs: FA was contracted due to NF already being booked at the time, thus subcontracted the contract. Simple business. Call it Extortion, call it a scam, call it Secret Santa, no one gives a flying F@#k. simple fact is just that.. this is how it is now and squatters, **** talkers and people I plain just don't like are gone. deal with it. everyone else, get with the council and have a voice. decide who is coming on board, decide timeframe for residence, decide that people are in fact allowed to stay on PFC. arguments for this in public are currently closed. the council is determining the course of action they wish to take, and NF is sitting here ready to throw darts... lets see what happens first Sorry for the heavy dose of REALITY, but this is how it is everywhere else. Take your silver spoon to the pawn shop and trade it in for a shovel and some boots ---------------------------------------end transmission------------------------------------------- funny, I don't think you determine what is closed or what is open here. You may not participate in the conversations about it, but it will remain open. I doubt you can ignore what will be said, your feminine said outweighs your mail said by plenty. Conversation closed doesn't necessarily mean no 'talks' of subject can happen - just that any words on the subject are futile and will change nothing. #TheMoreYouKnow
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1735	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:33:00 - [49] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: Well on behalf of Forsaken Immortals I would like to thank Castor and the anonymous donor this is a very generous gesture and hopefully will allow the more hesitant to focus on how PFC is being run and not on the ISK. There was no donation dude. This is more Kane "meta". If you believe that someone donated 800 million to defend PFc you have issues kid. The tinfoil hat is strong with this one. Lead Diplomat for Forsaken Immortals.
SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 27	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:42:00 - [50] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: Well on behalf of Forsaken Immortals I would like to thank Castor and the anonymous donor this is a very generous gesture and hopefully will allow the more hesitant to focus on how PFC is being run and not on the ISK. There was no donation dude. This is more Kane "meta". If you believe that someone donated 800 million to defend PFc you have issues kid. I just realized you're calling Kane a liar. Takes some balls to call someone out in public on lying - got any proof? Wait - don't bother answering - I already know. You don't. It's just sooooooo obvious he's lying, right? LOL

Darth-Carbonite GIO Dust2Dust. Top Men. 414	Posted - 2014.02.13 00:06:00 - [51] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: Well on behalf of Forsaken Immortals I would like to thank Castor and the anonymous donor this is a very generous gesture and hopefully will allow the more hesitant to focus on how PFC is being run and not on the ISK. There was no donation dude. This is more Kane "meta". If you believe that someone donated 800 million to defend PFc you have issues kid. The tinfoil hat is strong with this one. Conspiracies abound! Preeminent Scrambler Slayer And Python Pilot
Castor Crave Orbital Flares 363	Posted - 2014.02.13 01:19:00 - [52] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: Well on behalf of Forsaken Immortals I would like to thank Castor and the anonymous donor this is a very generous gesture and hopefully will allow the more hesitant to focus on how PFC is being run and not on the ISK. There was no donation dude. This is more Kane "meta". If you believe that someone donated 800 million to defend PFc you have issues kid. checks his wallet I got bad news for you Trading & Estate Four full sets of Templar Gear & 1.863.400.000 ISK given to the community so far :3
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 590	Posted - 2014.02.13 04:41:00 - [53] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Kain Spero wrote: The Black Art wrote: Where do I sign up to receive such donations? FA has already received part of it filling out two PFC contracts successfully. Those ringing in defense of PFC or to enforce PFC council through the NF PFC contract will be compensated from the PFC fund. You did not defend PFC. You blatantly stole a district from a RofL member because they refused to pay your extortion fee. Simple fact and simple truth. If there was no rules for pfc couldn't they have just taken it on a whim? What's the difference if you can't defend your district? Who wants some?
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 340	Posted - 2014.02.13 06:29:00 - [54] - Quote Castor Crave wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: Well on behalf of Forsaken Immortals I would like to thank Castor and the anonymous donor this is a very generous gesture and hopefully will allow the more hesitant to focus on how PFC is being run and not on the ISK. There was no donation dude. This is more Kane "meta". If you believe that someone donated 800 million to defend PFc you have issues kid. checks his wallet I got bad news for you checks wallet i hate the GM's 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 275	Posted - 2014.02.13 07:24:00 - [55] - Quote SoldOut TryAgain wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: Well on behalf of Forsaken Immortals I would like to thank Castor and the anonymous donor this is a very generous gesture and hopefully will allow the more hesitant to focus on how PFC is being run and not on the ISK. There was no donation dude. This is more Kane "meta". If you believe that someone donated 800 million to defend PFc you have issues kid. I just realized you're calling Kane a liar. Takes some balls to call someone out in public on lying - got any proof? Wait - don't bother answering - I already know. You don't. It's just sooooooo obvious he's lying, right? LOL Point blank calling him a liar and anyone else involved with it. What took you so long to figure this out? Proof? lol....silly kid..
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 275	Posted - 2014.02.13 07:25:00 - [56] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Kain Spero wrote: The Black Art wrote: Where do I sign up to receive such donations? FA has already received part of it filling out two PFC contracts successfully. Those ringing in defense of PFC or to enforce PFC council through the NF PFC contract will be compensated from the PFC fund. You did not defend PFC. You blatantly stole a district from a RofL member because they refused to pay your extortion fee. Simple fact and simple truth. If there was no rules for pfc couldn't they have just taken it on a whim? What's the difference if you can't defend your district? Difference is, they take it because you can not defend it from an attack in an area that has been deemed not to flip districts. It was taken because they would not pay the extortion fee.
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2014.02.13 07:44:00 - [57] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Kain Spero wrote: The Black Art wrote: Where do I sign up to receive such donations? FA has already received part of it filling out two PFC contracts successfully. Those ringing in defense of PFC or to enforce PFC council through the NF PFC contract will be compensated from the PFC fund. You did not defend PFC. You blatantly stole a district from a RofL member because they refused to pay your extortion fee. Simple fact and simple truth. If there was no rules for pfc couldn't they have just taken it on a whim? What's the difference if you can't defend your district? Difference is, they take it because you can not defend it from an attack in an area that has been deemed not to flip districts. It was taken because they would not pay the extortion fee. You should start stating PFC puppets instead of PFC council
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 593	Posted - 2014.02.13 07:50:00 - [58] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Kain Spero wrote: The Black Art wrote: Where do I sign up to receive such donations? FA has already received part of it filling out two PFC contracts successfully. Those ringing in defense of PFC or to enforce PFC council through the NF PFC contract will be compensated from the PFC fund. You did not defend PFC. You blatantly stole a district from a RofL member because they refused to pay your extortion fee. Simple fact and simple truth. If there was no rules for pfc couldn't they have just taken it on a whim? What's the difference if you can't defend your district? Difference is, they take it because you can not defend it from an attack in an area that has been deemed not to flip districts. It was taken because they would not pay the extortion fee. I get that. What I'm saying is if the renter doesn't pay it is ultimately irrelevant because they could have taken it anyway. I don't see them doing elsewhere in PC. If the renter can't get and hold a district on there own then they have to rely on pfc, right? So they have to follow the rules or get booted. The weak must obey the strong. Who wants some?
SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 35	Posted - 2014.02.13 07:51:00 - [59] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: SoldOut TryAgain wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Medic 1879 wrote: Well on behalf of Forsaken Immortals I would like to thank Castor and the anonymous donor this is a very generous gesture and hopefully will allow the more hesitant to focus on how PFC is being run and not on the ISK. There was no donation dude. This is more Kane "meta". If you believe that someone donated 800 million to defend PFc you have issues kid. I just realized you're calling Kane a liar. Takes some balls to call someone out in public on lying - got any proof? Wait - don't bother answering - I already know. You don't. It's just sooooooo obvious he's lying, right? LOL Point blank calling him a liar and anyone else involved with it. What took you so long to figure this out? Proof? lol....silly kid.. I don't know why you're being irrational - The guy who donated even posted here - and the fees will be used to cover a months rent for all PFCC corps, so someone who isn't them IS paying. So what ******* logic are you working with to say this is a lie? "It's intuition BRAH" Lol.......
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 275	Posted - 2014.02.13 07:55:00 - [60] - Quote Doesn't matter what is said or how it is presented, you guys are drinking the kool-aid. Enjoy paying for protection lol smdh

Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 593	Posted - 2014.02.13 07:57:00 - [61] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Doesn't matter what is said or how it is presented, you guys are drinking the kool-aid. Enjoy paying for protection lol smdh I don't pay for ****. I actually only know what I have read here. If you have such a problem why don't you fix it? Who wants some?
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 275	Posted - 2014.02.13 08:06:00 - [62] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Doesn't matter what is said or how it is presented, you guys are drinking the kool-aid. Enjoy paying for protection lol smdh I don't pay for ****. I actually only know what I have read here. If you have such a problem why don't you fix it? Are you on PFC with your Corp? If you are, then you pay. i am trying to fix it. Pointing out what is going on but with people like, umm, YOU buying into it and being simple-minded, it will continue. Oh, well since the guy who was reported as making the donation came here and said he did it, it must be true. This is the internet and all...
SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 35	Posted - 2014.02.13 08:11:00 - [63] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Oh, well since the guy who was reported as making the donation came here and said he did it, it must be true. This is the internet and all... By your own logic we now can't believe you're trying to fix anything and are probably just trying to prevent a corp who continues to flip AE districts from gaining any more source of revenue.
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 593	Posted - 2014.02.13 08:37:00 - [64] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Doesn't matter what is said or how it is presented, you guys are drinking the kool-aid. Enjoy paying for protection lol smdh I don't pay for ****. I actually only know what I have read here. If you have such a problem why don't you fix it? Are you on PFC with your Corp? If you are, then you pay. i am trying to fix it. Pointing out what is going on but with people like, umm, YOU buying into it and being simple-minded, it will continue. Oh, well since the guy who was reported as making the donation came here and said he did it, it must be true. This is the internet and all... We were offered a space but declined. I won't pay to be in someone else to be in PC. If we can't do it by our martial prowess I don't feel we need to be there. Not everyone feels the same, PFC gives them that opportunity. What stops people from burning these guys? Integrity, ha. I am not drinking any kool-aid. I observe, and learn. If I had the means I'd take a planet and do something similar. You guys might want to try that. How would you fund it? Who wants some?
xMaggot Brainx Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 4	Posted - 2014.02.13 08:59:00 - [65] - Quote Problems is Locked districts once again. Now that all these big name corps have billions in ISK from locking districts they can hire ringers for the next decade with no problem. Now the PFC Puppets are going to give Kane 1 billion ISK a month for protection. Wake up people the intention is to make ISK not some fantasy of helping smaller corps practice PC. Why didn't Kane just ask for "X" amount of money to reclaim a district if it was illegally taken? Why? Because he would rather take advantage of the weak minded people and get them to buy into this fantasy of protection. He is a CPM which is a joke. Everyone knows CCP has an issue with the Locked District situation so where do Kane and Cubs and all the PC ringers go for action and ISK farming? They go to PFC where the rule is not to lock districts. Now they get to play PC , get hired to ring etc... I call on any corps not involved in this extortion to rise up attack PFC from your districts. Do no shows if you want. That would be a lot of fun for these PFC puppets LOL. everyday show up to an empty battle.. or if you have the means to claim land do that as well. I end with one question for those currently on the sidelines and those involved... How powerful do you really want Kane Spero to be?
SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 38	Posted - 2014.02.13 15:33:00 - [66] - Quote xMaggot Brainx wrote: Problems is Locked districts once again. Now that all these big name corps have billions in ISK from locking districts they can hire ringers for the next decade with no problem. Now the PFC Puppets are going to give Kane 1 billion ISK a month for protection. Wake up people the intention is to make ISK not some fantasy of helping smaller corps practice PC. Why didn't Kane just ask for "X" amount of money to reclaim a district if it was illegally taken? Why? Because he would rather take advantage of the weak minded people and get them to buy into this fantasy of protection. He is a CPM which is a joke. Everyone knows CCP has an issue with the Locked District situation so where do Kane and Cubs and all the PC ringers go for action and ISK farming? They go to PFC where the rule is not to lock districts. Now they get to play PC , get hired to ring etc... I call on any corps not involved in this extortion to rise up attack PFC from your districts. Do no shows if you want. That would be a lot of fun for these PFC puppets LOL. everyday show up to an empty battle.. or if you have the means to claim land do that as well. I end with one question for those currently on the sidelines and those involved... How powerful do you really want Kane Spero to be? Please explain to me how someone who gains nothing gains something? I think people are confused about Kane's involvement. He's not getting a DIME out of this - the mercs in NF are who are getting paid to show up - not him. Far as what he does - it's all indeed charity work. All he gets out of this deal is his name out there and the tears you idiots come up with to attack him. If PFCC wanted to turn on him and work with someone else in the end - they could, and he'd be fucked. He's taking the risk for the sake the community - You want a system where NF only comes in and asks for payment for each match? Fine - out-line how you think it would work - then explain how it would be cheaper. Because we have - it's not cheaper. You would pay more for less without the rental system, as you would indeed just be hiring mercs at a flat rate. 8.75 multiplied by x equals y. Where x is amount of weeks. Now - how many weeks would it take for 8.75mil to make 50mil? You would be getting over a month of protection for the price of a single battle. But if everyone chips in for protection - then the over-all costs per corp is drastically lowered.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 276	Posted - 2014.02.13 17:17:00 - [67] - Quote SoldOut TryAgain wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: Problems is Locked districts once again. Now that all these big name corps have billions in ISK from locking districts they can hire ringers for the next decade with no problem. Now the PFC Puppets are going to give Kane 1 billion ISK a month for protection. Wake up people the intention is to make ISK not some fantasy of helping smaller corps practice PC. Why didn't Kane just ask for "X" amount of money to reclaim a district if it was illegally taken? Why? Because he would rather take advantage of the weak minded people and get them to buy into this fantasy of protection. He is a CPM which is a joke. Everyone knows CCP has an issue with the Locked District situation so where do Kane and Cubs and all the PC ringers go for action and ISK farming? They go to PFC where the rule is not to lock districts. Now they get to play PC , get hired to ring etc... I call on any corps not involved in this extortion to rise up attack PFC from your districts. Do no shows if you want. That would be a lot of fun for these PFC puppets LOL. everyday show up to an empty battle.. or if you have the means to claim land do that as well. I end with one question for those currently on the sidelines and those involved... How powerful do you really want Kane Spero to be? Please explain to me how someone who gains nothing gains something? I think people are confused about Kane's involvement. He's not getting a DIME out of this - the mercs in NF are who are getting paid to show up - not him. Far as what he does - it's all indeed charity work. All he gets out of this deal is his name out there and the tears you idiots come up with to attack him. If PFCC wanted to turn on him and work with someone else in the end - they could, and he'd be fucked. He's taking the risk for the sake the community - You want a system where NF only comes in and asks for payment for each match? Fine - out-line how you think it would work - then explain how it would be cheaper. Because we have - it's not cheaper. You would pay more for less without the rental system, as you would indeed just be hiring mercs at a flat rate. 8.75 multiplied by x equals y. Where x is amount of weeks. Now - how many weeks would it take for 8.75mil to make 50mil? You would be getting over a month of protection for the price of a single battle. But if everyone chips in for protection - then the over-all costs per corp is drastically lowered. Do you really believe the part I underlined/bold/italicized for you? Do you really believe that? Think about it long and hard before answering.
SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 40	Posted - 2014.02.13 17:36:00 - [68] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: SoldOut TryAgain wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: Problems is Locked districts once again. Now that all these big name corps have billions in ISK from locking districts they can hire ringers for the next decade with no problem. Now the PFC Puppets are going to give Kane 1 billion ISK a month for protection. Wake up people the intention is to make ISK not some fantasy of helping smaller corps practice PC. Why didn't Kane just ask for "X" amount of money to reclaim a district if it was illegally taken? Why? Because he would rather take advantage of the weak minded people and get them to buy into this fantasy of protection. He is a CPM which is a joke. Everyone knows CCP has an issue with the Locked District situation so where do Kane and Cubs and all the PC ringers go for action and ISK farming? They go to PFC where the rule is not to lock districts. Now they get to play PC , get hired to ring etc... I call on any corps not involved in this extortion to rise up attack PFC from your districts. Do no shows if you want. That would be a lot of fun for these PFC puppets LOL. everyday show up to an empty battle.. or if you have the means to claim land do that as well. I end with one question for those currently on the sidelines and those involved... How powerful do you really want Kane Spero to be? Please explain to me how someone who gains nothing gains something? I think people are confused about Kane's involvement. He's not getting a DIME out of this - the mercs in NF are who are getting paid to show up - not him. Far as what he does - it's all indeed charity work. All he gets out of this deal is his name out there and the tears you idiots come up with to attack him. If PFCC wanted to turn on him and work with someone else in the end - they could, and he'd be fucked. He's taking the risk for the sake the community - You want a system where NF only comes in and asks for payment for each match? Fine - out-line how you think it would work - then explain how it would be cheaper. Because we have - it's not cheaper. You would pay more for less without the rental system, as you would indeed just be hiring mercs at a flat rate. 8.75 multiplied by x equals y. Where x is amount of weeks. Now - how many weeks would it take for 8.75mil to make 50mil? You would be getting over a month of protection for the price of a single battle. But if everyone chips in for protection - then the over-all costs per corp is drastically lowered. Do you really believe the part I underlined/bold/italicized for you? Do you really believe that? Think about it long and hard before answering. Seeing as I'm directly involved in everything going on with PFC - yes, yes I am sure. How sure are you being an outside guy looking in from a very far distance? "I'M SURE CAUSE I CAN BE AND IT MAKES EVERYTHING I SAY SEEM MORE PLAUSIBLE" Yea, that's all you can say, that's all you've ever been able to say. "I think." To speak with absolute certainty while not being involved in any way shape or form on the debatable issues is absurd and makes you look like a flaming fucking idiot. I'm not going to play nice with you anymore bigole - stop posting dumb shyt. Say something creative at least if you're going to keep up this AE blow job.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 278	Posted - 2014.02.13 18:44:00 - [69] - Quote SoldOut TryAgain wrote: bigolenuts wrote: SoldOut TryAgain wrote: xMaggot Brainx wrote: Problems is Locked districts once again. Now that all these big name corps have billions in ISK from locking districts they can hire ringers for the next decade with no problem. Now the PFC Puppets are going to give Kane 1 billion ISK a month for protection. Wake up people the intention is to make ISK not some fantasy of helping smaller corps practice PC. Why didn't Kane just ask for "X" amount of money to reclaim a district if it was illegally taken? Why? Because he would rather take advantage of the weak minded people and get them to buy into this fantasy of protection. He is a CPM which is a joke. Everyone knows CCP has an issue with the Locked District situation so where do Kane and Cubs and all the PC ringers go for action and ISK farming? They go to PFC where the rule is not to lock districts. Now they get to play PC , get hired to ring etc... I call on any corps not involved in this extortion to rise up attack PFC from your districts. Do no shows if you want. That would be a lot of fun for these PFC puppets LOL. everyday show up to an empty battle.. or if you have the means to claim land do that as well. I end with one question for those currently on the sidelines and those involved... How powerful do you really want Kane Spero to be? Please explain to me how someone who gains nothing gains something? I think people are confused about Kane's involvement. He's not getting a DIME out of this - the mercs in NF are who are getting paid to show up - not him. Far as what he does - it's all indeed charity work. All he gets out of this deal is his name out there and the tears you idiots come up with to attack him. If PFCC wanted to turn on him and work with someone else in the end - they could, and he'd be fucked. He's taking the risk for the sake the community - You want a system where NF only comes in and asks for payment for each match? Fine - out-line how you think it would work - then explain how it would be cheaper. Because we have - it's not cheaper. You would pay more for less without the rental system, as you would indeed just be hiring mercs at a flat rate. 8.75 multiplied by x equals y. Where x is amount of weeks. Now - how many weeks would it take for 8.75mil to make 50mil? You would be getting over a month of protection for the price of a single battle. But if everyone chips in for protection - then the over-all costs per corp is drastically lowered. Do you really believe the part I underlined/bold/italicized for you? Do you really believe that? Think about it long and hard before answering. Seeing as I'm directly involved in everything going on with PFC - yes, yes I am sure. How sure are you being an outside guy looking in from a very far distance? "I'M SURE CAUSE I CAN BE AND IT MAKES EVERYTHING I SAY SEEM MORE PLAUSIBLE" Yea, that's all you can say, that's all you've ever been able to say. "I think." To speak with absolute certainty while not being involved in any way shape or form on the debatable issues is absurd and makes you look like a flaming fucking idiot. I'm not going to play nice with you anymore bigole - stop posting dumb shyt. Say something creative at least if you're going to keep up this AE blow job. Not play nice with me lol..What will you do, type me a black eye? Kane does not have good intentions for the community. Are you nuts? Tell ya what, I'll just sit back and watch. When it goes wrong, you be the first one to post the apology to me, deal? I won't say another word.
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1481	Posted - 2014.02.13 18:47:00 - [70] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Kane does not have good intentions for the community. Are you nuts? Tell ya what, I'll just sit back and watch. When it goes wrong, you be the first one to post the apology to me, deal? I won't say another word. This is simply flat-out wrong. But yes, please, sit back and watch. Silently. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate

Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 594	Posted - 2014.02.13 18:48:00 - [71] - Quote Why not take some of your locked districts and make your own PFC? Between AE and NS you could make any rules you want. Plus you would stop strangling the game and help out for a change. Who wants some?
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1482	Posted - 2014.02.13 18:50:00 - [72] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: Why not take some of your locked districts and make your own PFC? Between AE and NS you could make any rules you want. Plus you would stop strangling the game and help out for a change. Because unlike Kane Spero, AE and NS are turning a pretty hefty profit with what they're doing. ;) I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 41	Posted - 2014.02.13 18:50:00 - [73] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: I suck off AE for PC games That's basically all your really saying. Leave the talk to players who can actually play the game, mmmkay?
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 278	Posted - 2014.02.13 18:51:00 - [74] - Quote I don't make any decisions regarding locking/unlocking. I don't even know who makes them to be quite honest. LOL...I'll watch you kids and wait for the posts to come in.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 278	Posted - 2014.02.13 18:52:00 - [75] - Quote SoldOut TryAgain wrote: bigolenuts wrote: I suck off AE for PC games That's basically all your really saying. Leave the talk to players who can actually play the game, mmmkay? Cute, you can't even make a gentlemens agreement without taking a stab. lol You are cute when you are angry. Does Kane put flavors on his d!ck for you to suck or do you just suck it au'natural? I am curious
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 596	Posted - 2014.02.13 18:52:00 - [76] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: Why not take some of your locked districts and make your own PFC? Between AE and NS you could make any rules you want. Plus you would stop strangling the game and help out for a change. Because unlike Kane Spero, AE and NS are turning a pretty hefty profit with what they're doing. ;) I see them pretending to give a sh!t while collecting money. Who wants some?
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 278	Posted - 2014.02.13 18:53:00 - [77] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: Why not take some of your locked districts and make your own PFC? Between AE and NS you could make any rules you want. Plus you would stop strangling the game and help out for a change. Because unlike Kane Spero, AE and NS are turning a pretty hefty profit with what they're doing. ;) Yes, because Kane is not about making ISK here, he wants to better the community. I apologize
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 596	Posted - 2014.02.13 18:56:00 - [78] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: I don't make any decisions regarding locking/unlocking. I don't even know who makes them to be quite honest. LOL...I'll watch you kids and wait for the posts to come in. I'm sure a quick post in corp chat could fix that. If you are just a peon why come here and spout trash about other people? Who wants some?
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1844	Posted - 2014.02.13 19:03:00 - [79] - Quote Nobody knows, but PFC Funds goes into my wallet for personal use. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 278	Posted - 2014.02.13 19:04:00 - [80] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: bigolenuts wrote: I don't make any decisions regarding locking/unlocking. I don't even know who makes them to be quite honest. LOL...I'll watch you kids and wait for the posts to come in. I'm sure a quick post in corp chat could fix that. If you are just a peon why come here and spout trash about other people? Well, because I can. Is that simple enough for you?

Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 601	Posted - 2014.02.13 19:09:00 - [81] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: bigolenuts wrote: I don't make any decisions regarding locking/unlocking. I don't even know who makes them to be quite honest. LOL...I'll watch you kids and wait for the posts to come in. I'm sure a quick post in corp chat could fix that. If you are just a peon why come here and spout trash about other people? Well, because I can. Is that simple enough for you? Everyone can. Why would you? Also why not look into the things wrong with your corp? Ask some caring questions there. 200m a week is a probably less than your corp is making a day. Who wants some?
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 279	Posted - 2014.02.13 19:10:00 - [82] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: bigolenuts wrote: I don't make any decisions regarding locking/unlocking. I don't even know who makes them to be quite honest. LOL...I'll watch you kids and wait for the posts to come in. I'm sure a quick post in corp chat could fix that. If you are just a peon why come here and spout trash about other people? Well, because I can. Is that simple enough for you? Everyone can. Why would you? Also why not look into the things wrong with your corp? Ask some caring questions there. 200m a week is a probably less than your corp is making a day. What is this "caring" you speak? Explain
SoldOut TryAgain Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 42	Posted - 2014.02.13 19:14:00 - [83] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: SoldOut TryAgain wrote: bigolenuts wrote: I suck off AE for PC games That's basically all your really saying. Leave the talk to players who can actually play the game, mmmkay? Cute, you can't even make a gentlemens agreement without taking a stab. lol You are cute when you are angry. Does Kane put flavors on his d!ck for you to suck or do you just suck it au'natural? I am curious I already tried - you ignore everything that's said and replace it with your own biased logic. No point anymore - it's easier to just troll you and farm likes. Now, tell us more how you stroke AE while they tell you all about why PFC is broken, and why they did nothing themselves when they took over to fix it. And who calls someone a liar without any proof then cries for people to respond gentlemanly to them? Wtf kind of white world did you grow up in? Must of been pretty nice - did mommy and daddy buy you everything too? Because where I'm from - calling someone a liar without any proof just makes you look like a bitch.
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 601	Posted - 2014.02.13 19:15:00 - [84] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: bigolenuts wrote: I don't make any decisions regarding locking/unlocking. I don't even know who makes them to be quite honest. LOL...I'll watch you kids and wait for the posts to come in. I'm sure a quick post in corp chat could fix that. If you are just a peon why come here and spout trash about other people? Well, because I can. Is that simple enough for you? Everyone can. Why would you? Also why not look into the things wrong with your corp? Ask some caring questions there. 200m a week is a probably less than your corp is making a day. What is this "caring" you speak? Explain why do you care what Kane does? It seems to bother you. These are emotions you are feeling. You are expressing them and that is good.If you look inward first you will be ready to deal with the outside influences better. How can what NF does be more wrong than what you guys are doing? Who wants some?
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 280	Posted - 2014.02.13 19:19:00 - [85] - Quote I have no problem with Kane personally, he is just the face of this. I would be bashing Jesus Christ if it were him. Kane is not getting any special treatment.
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 603	Posted - 2014.02.13 19:24:00 - [86] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: I have no problem with Kane personally, he is just the face of this. I would be bashing Jesus Christ if it were him. Kane is not getting any special treatment. right. Why are you not bashing your own corp? Do you really think they are helping PC? I am sorry I am not more informed about what you guys are doing. I just get the paper. Coffee, war room, and cigarettes. Who wants some?
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 280	Posted - 2014.02.13 19:34:00 - [87] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: bigolenuts wrote: I have no problem with Kane personally, he is just the face of this. I would be bashing Jesus Christ if it were him. Kane is not getting any special treatment. right. Why are you not bashing your own corp? Do you really think they are helping PC? I am sorry I am not more informed about what you guys are doing. I just get the paper. Coffee, war room, and cigarettes. As little as I am on, I don't care what happens with Pc to be honst man. I have been on often lately because of some work schedule changes and sorts like that. I've played probably 5 Pc battles in 3 months. Not really making a difference. When I do play, I do what they ask. Spawn where I am told and stay where I am told to stay. Like a good little puppy.
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 605	Posted - 2014.02.13 19:36:00 - [88] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: bigolenuts wrote: I have no problem with Kane personally, he is just the face of this. I would be bashing Jesus Christ if it were him. Kane is not getting any special treatment. right. Why are you not bashing your own corp? Do you really think they are helping PC? I am sorry I am not more informed about what you guys are doing. I just get the paper. Coffee, war room, and cigarettes. As little as I am on, I don't care what happens with Pc to be honst man. I have been on often lately because of some work schedule changes and sorts like that. I've played probably 5 Pc battles in 3 months. Not really making a difference. When I do play, I do what they ask. Spawn where I am told and stay where I am told to stay. Like a good little puppy. but you just keep yapping. Who wants some?
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 280	Posted - 2014.02.13 19:37:00 - [89] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: bigolenuts wrote: I have no problem with Kane personally, he is just the face of this. I would be bashing Jesus Christ if it were him. Kane is not getting any special treatment. right. Why are you not bashing your own corp? Do you really think they are helping PC? I am sorry I am not more informed about what you guys are doing. I just get the paper. Coffee, war room, and cigarettes. As little as I am on, I don't care what happens with Pc to be honst man. I have been on often lately because of some work schedule changes and sorts like that. I've played probably 5 Pc battles in 3 months. Not really making a difference. When I do play, I do what they ask. Spawn where I am told and stay where I am told to stay. Like a good little puppy. but you just keep yapping. As do you...
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 606	Posted - 2014.02.13 19:39:00 - [90] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: bigolenuts wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: bigolenuts wrote: I have no problem with Kane personally, he is just the face of this. I would be bashing Jesus Christ if it were him. Kane is not getting any special treatment. right. Why are you not bashing your own corp? Do you really think they are helping PC? I am sorry I am not more informed about what you guys are doing. I just get the paper. Coffee, war room, and cigarettes. As little as I am on, I don't care what happens with Pc to be honst man. I have been on often lately because of some work schedule changes and sorts like that. I've played probably 5 Pc battles in 3 months. Not really making a difference. When I do play, I do what they ask. Spawn where I am told and stay where I am told to stay. Like a good little puppy. but you just keep yapping. As do you... Damn right. No one can tell me what to do I have a big D!ck. Who wants some?

bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 281	Posted - 2014.02.13 19:42:00 - [91] - Quote lol..I don't believe you. I'll ask Kane and see what he says.
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 606	Posted - 2014.02.13 19:46:00 - [92] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: lol..I don't believe you. I'll ask Kane and see what he says. its not very long but godamn its got some girth. Who wants some?
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2827	Posted - 2014.02.13 20:33:00 - [93] - Quote It seems that many people don't really bother to read: Kain Spero wrote: In four weeks NF will evaluate its contract and consult with the PFC council, which should be well established at that time. I suspect PFC will be healthy enough that we'll be able to move forward with pay on demand model especially if the seed fund remains healthy. Again Castor Crave and the other contributor have given PFC the breathing room it needs to focus on building up the council and the funds needed to both enforce the council and fund defense when needed. These next four weeks will be an excellent tracer bullet to see what is actually needed in terms of the PFC contract and what will be the best way forward to ensure that the most equitable and sustainable system is set up between the PFC members those that are in charge of the PFC enforcement contract. TLDR: Negative-Feedback and the PFC council will discuss how we want to structure the PFC contract in four weeks time. Maybe the council will want to go with pay-on-demand or perhaps they would rather a weekly payment. With an emergency fund in escrow we'll look at the expenses incurred over the next four weeks and see. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
CR4SH OVERRIDE 38	Posted - 2014.02.13 21:00:00 - [94] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: bigolenuts wrote: lol..I don't believe you. I'll ask Kane and see what he says. its not very long but godamn its got some girth. If you cut mine in half... you can tell how old I am Banned from forums You have been banned from the EVE Gate forums, effective through 2/22/2014 3:38:16 AM.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 286	Posted - 2014.02.14 08:47:00 - [95] - Quote Cute, remove or have remove what you don't want to read lol
ANON Illuminati A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 557	Posted - 2014.02.14 10:06:00 - [96] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: Wait, Anon gave you money? I mean sure, it's about time he gave to the poor and needy, but you kain are neither. He should've given it to the Orphanage for abandoned militia dropsuits. lol wasnt me or my corp. we dont want to join the extorted nor do we want to be in the politics of this bs going on we just here to play nothing more nothing less. besides we are broke. *I Sware It Wasnt Me*
john smitharooni Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 31	Posted - 2014.02.14 13:57:00 - [97] - Quote Cubs Secretary wrote: Call it Extortion, call it a scam, call it Secret Santa, no one gives a flying F@#k. simple fact is just that.. this is how it is now and squatters, **** talkers and people I plain just don't like are gone. deal with it. ...hmmmmm It seems the PFC puppets and their little welfare state are both alive and well, at least for the moment. But what happens if some group is able to challenge NF's 'contract' to protect and renders their efforts at defending PFC to be ineffectual? Will the puppets get their protection monies back? The 'meta' surrounding all of this is glorious and if a gang of evil, elite interlopers were to deny NFs scheme it could would be even more so.
JaBBa-Da HuT Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2014.02.14 14:25:00 - [98] - Quote bigolenuts wrote: I have no problem with Kane personally, he is just the face of this. I would be bashing Jesus Christ if it were him. Kane is not getting any special treatment. lucky for you, you got a fresh pair of kneepads from your significant other for Valentine's Day. so please, continue with your view from below. (being an irrelevant forum warrior isn't helping your cause any, cause you sure as S**t aren't any form of factor in game)
DJINN Kujo Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 959	Posted - 2014.02.14 14:51:00 - [99] - Quote The only reason AE. would step in is if we got enough bitchin about it or for a fight. Ancient Exiles, CEO Your failure to plan ahead does not constitute an emergency on my end.
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 293	Posted - 2014.02.14 18:40:00 - [100] - Quote JaBBa-Da HuT wrote: bigolenuts wrote: I have no problem with Kane personally, he is just the face of this. I would be bashing Jesus Christ if it were him. Kane is not getting any special treatment. lucky for you, you got a fresh pair of kneepads from your significant other for Valentine's Day. so please, continue with your view from below. (being an irrelevant forum warrior isn't helping your cause any, cause you sure as S**t aren't any form of factor in game) Happy Valentines Day baby. I love you!!

ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1022	Posted - 2014.02.14 18:52:00 - [101] - Quote You living the good life with all this troll food huh. rofl, some people just wont stop feeding you, and feeding you, and feeding you
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 293	Posted - 2014.02.14 19:22:00 - [102] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: You living the good life with all this troll food huh. rofl, some people just wont stop feeding you, and feeding you, and feeding you nomnomnomnom
MoonEagle A Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 127	Posted - 2014.02.14 19:30:00 - [103] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: It seems that many people don't really bother to read: Kain Spero wrote: In four weeks NF will evaluate its contract and consult with the PFC council, which should be well established at that time. I suspect PFC will be healthy enough that we'll be able to move forward with pay on demand model especially if the seed fund remains healthy. Again Castor Crave and the other contributor have given PFC the breathing room it needs to focus on building up the council and the funds needed to both enforce the council and fund defense when needed. These next four weeks will be an excellent tracer bullet to see what is actually needed in terms of the PFC contract and what will be the best way forward to ensure that the most equitable and sustainable system is set up between the PFC members those that are in charge of the PFC enforcement contract. TLDR: Negative-Feedback and the PFC council will discuss how we want to structure the PFC contract in four weeks time. Maybe the council will want to go with pay-on-demand or perhaps they would rather a weekly payment. With an emergency fund in escrow we'll look at the expenses incurred over the next four weeks and see. You could have left us alone. We were doing fine taking care of our district without you. The only help we used was from our Alliance.
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1023	Posted - 2014.02.14 19:57:00 - [104] - Quote MoonEagle A wrote: Kain Spero wrote: It seems that many people don't really bother to read: Kain Spero wrote: In four weeks NF will evaluate its contract and consult with the PFC council, which should be well established at that time. I suspect PFC will be healthy enough that we'll be able to move forward with pay on demand model especially if the seed fund remains healthy. Again Castor Crave and the other contributor have given PFC the breathing room it needs to focus on building up the council and the funds needed to both enforce the council and fund defense when needed. These next four weeks will be an excellent tracer bullet to see what is actually needed in terms of the PFC contract and what will be the best way forward to ensure that the most equitable and sustainable system is set up between the PFC members those that are in charge of the PFC enforcement contract. TLDR: Negative-Feedback and the PFC council will discuss how we want to structure the PFC contract in four weeks time. Maybe the council will want to go with pay-on-demand or perhaps they would rather a weekly payment. With an emergency fund in escrow we'll look at the expenses incurred over the next four weeks and see. You could have left us alone. We were doing fine taking care of our district without you. The only help we used was from our Alliance. So you should probably war about it then if you disagree? Perhaps an analogy... Your 24 districts, all held by different corporations, are like the original 13 colonies who revolted against Britain. 7 southern states seceded from the union, with slavery being the primary cause of the disunion. Similar to disagreements on slavery, there are some district owners who disagree with Speros tax, and even call it extortion! Civil war is upon us, or is it? See the problem is these corporations who are all about PFC are there because they cant, or wont, cut it in the rest of PC (at least when it was real and there wasn't 100% locking).. but I digress. Perhaps it is not the "extortion" that will cause war on PFC, but the disunion itself! So, rise up and battle the heathens. You can be called "Maryland"
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2683	Posted - 2014.02.14 20:06:00 - [105] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: MoonEagle A wrote: Kain Spero wrote: It seems that many people don't really bother to read: Kain Spero wrote: In four weeks NF will evaluate its contract and consult with the PFC council, which should be well established at that time. I suspect PFC will be healthy enough that we'll be able to move forward with pay on demand model especially if the seed fund remains healthy. Again Castor Crave and the other contributor have given PFC the breathing room it needs to focus on building up the council and the funds needed to both enforce the council and fund defense when needed. These next four weeks will be an excellent tracer bullet to see what is actually needed in terms of the PFC contract and what will be the best way forward to ensure that the most equitable and sustainable system is set up between the PFC members those that are in charge of the PFC enforcement contract. TLDR: Negative-Feedback and the PFC council will discuss how we want to structure the PFC contract in four weeks time. Maybe the council will want to go with pay-on-demand or perhaps they would rather a weekly payment. With an emergency fund in escrow we'll look at the expenses incurred over the next four weeks and see. You could have left us alone. We were doing fine taking care of our district without you. The only help we used was from our Alliance. So you should probably war about it then if you disagree? Perhaps an analogy... Your 24 districts, all held by different corporations, are like the original 13 colonies who revolted against Britain. 7 southern states seceded from the union, with slavery being the primary cause of the disunion. Similar to disagreements on slavery, there are some district owners who disagree with Speros tax, and even call it extortion! Civil war is upon us, or is it? See the problem is these corporations who are all about PFC are there because they cant, or wont, cut it in the rest of PC (at least when it was real and there wasn't 100% locking).. but I digress. Perhaps it is not the "extortion" that will cause war on PFC, but the disunion itself! So, rise up and battle the heathens. You can be called "Maryland" better than 'Delaware' Hi....I'm in...Delaware ok Party on Wayne Party on Garth Common Sense and *Logic* are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.


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