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commando biffle Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 17	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:18:00 - [1] - Quote the ADS Skill book give 2%small turret damage per level then add the 30% that damage mods gives. Then add the python skill book that gives 10% to missile turret ROF and 5% to missile turret max ammo per level and the proto small missile turret has 455 direct damage and 357.50 AOE then add the the 40% damage buff. That makes it 637 for direct damage and 500.5 in AOE.
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1903	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:20:00 - [2] - Quote And gets 2-shotted by sica Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Delta90212 Dust2Dust. Top Men. 238	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:20:00 - [3] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: And gets 2-shotted by sica Yup ^ Fear The Tribes / Standings Minmatar 5 / Gallente 5 / Pilot
Cyrius Li-Moody 3476	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:21:00 - [4] - Quote Who the hell runs a damage mod on a python? Do you not want to live longer than 2 seconds? Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
ALT2 acc The Phoenix Federation 56	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:26:00 - [5] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Who the hell runs a damage mod on a python? Do you not want to live longer than 2 seconds? Its so funny thats actually not exaggerated, like really....
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 240	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:27:00 - [6] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Who the hell runs a damage mod on a python? Do you not want to live longer than 2 seconds? This^ And what Charlotte said. I could see it exclusively as an AV fit, but then, rails would be better, thus an Incubus would be a better choice. But, damage mods on any ADS over shield hardener/booster/extender or afterburner is just asinine... xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 560	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:28:00 - [7] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: And gets 2-shotted by sica Tha Truth! Nuff Said
commando biffle Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 17	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:31:00 - [8] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: And gets 2-shotted by sica 2? really not in my dust
darkiller240 WarRavens League of Infamy 370	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:33:00 - [9] - Quote wooop Hey Forumers found one, found a guy ho thinks dropships are Op "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
darkiller240 WarRavens League of Infamy 370	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:36:00 - [10] - Quote If enything i say Dropships are UP, the amount of Skill points/Isk/Practice you need to fly one is to high In fact ho here says they need a SP and isk lower Also an extra slot like the standard ver "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

commando biffle Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 17	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:37:00 - [11] - Quote i see ADS go 30\0 to 50\0 every day
Cyrius Li-Moody 3477	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:38:00 - [12] - Quote commando biffle wrote: i see ADS go 30\0 to 50\0 every day What game are you playing? Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
ALT2 acc The Phoenix Federation 65	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:39:00 - [13] - Quote commando biffle wrote: i see ADS go 30\0 to 50\0 every day Obviously killed by a python so makes crap up or enemy team cant 2 shot python
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10676	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:39:00 - [14] - Quote If anything, Pythons are "OP" thanks to their agility and mobility, as nasty as Python Missiles are. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
ALT2 acc The Phoenix Federation 71	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:40:00 - [15] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: If anything, Pythons are "OP" thanks to their agility and mobility, as nasty as Python Missiles are. My incubus says hi
Cyrius Li-Moody 3479	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:40:00 - [16] - Quote I want whatever drugs you are taking. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
commando biffle Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 18	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:40:00 - [17] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: commando biffle wrote: i see ADS go 30\0 to 50\0 every day What game are you playing? cal fw
Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 174	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:41:00 - [18] - Quote commando biffle wrote: i see ADS go 30\0 to 50\0 every day Thats because they took the time and isk to learn not only to fly but to aim as well and its not as easy as it seems when your new to the ADS
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2200	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:42:00 - [19] - Quote At least I've killed pythons with Proto swarms, I haven't got close to killing a incubus. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3097	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:43:00 - [20] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: And gets 2-shotted by sica Just like any dropsuit vs a militia shotty. I guess that means none are OP. No.

Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 174	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:43:00 - [21] - Quote ALT2 acc wrote: commando biffle wrote: i see ADS go 30\0 to 50\0 every day Obviously killed by a python so makes crap up or enemy team cant 2 shot python You mean with ya'lls noob damage mod stacked sica that your losing in 1.8
commando biffle Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 18	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:44:00 - [22] - Quote Tailss Prower wrote: commando biffle wrote: i see ADS go 30\0 to 50\0 every day Thats because they took the time and isk to learn not only to fly but to aim as well and its not as easy as it seems when your new to the ADS i went 25\3 in my test python
Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 174	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:45:00 - [23] - Quote commando biffle wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: commando biffle wrote: i see ADS go 30\0 to 50\0 every day What game are you playing? cal fw thats your problem right there
ALT2 acc The Phoenix Federation 71	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:45:00 - [24] - Quote Tailss Prower wrote: ALT2 acc wrote: commando biffle wrote: i see ADS go 30\0 to 50\0 every day Obviously killed by a python so makes crap up or enemy team cant 2 shot python You mean with ya'lls noob damage mod stacked sica that your losing in 1.8 You 3 shot pythons with a mlt railgun without the noob mods
darkiller240 WarRavens League of Infamy 370	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:46:00 - [25] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: At least I've killed pythons with Proto swarms, I haven't got close to killing a incubus. yer icubus are more powerfull "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 174	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:46:00 - [26] - Quote commando biffle wrote: Tailss Prower wrote: commando biffle wrote: i see ADS go 30\0 to 50\0 every day Thats because they took the time and isk to learn not only to fly but to aim as well and its not as easy as it seems when your new to the ADS i went 25\3 in my test python Im happy for you my first game in 1 was 22/1 with 3 tank kills does it really matter no
Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 174	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:47:00 - [27] - Quote ALT2 acc wrote: Tailss Prower wrote: ALT2 acc wrote: commando biffle wrote: i see ADS go 30\0 to 50\0 every day Obviously killed by a python so makes crap up or enemy team cant 2 shot python You mean with ya'lls noob damage mod stacked sica that your losing in 1.8 You 3 shot pythons with a mlt railgun without the noob mods Only if he doesn't use booster and hardner
commando biffle Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 18	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:48:00 - [28] - Quote Tailss Prower wrote: commando biffle wrote: Tailss Prower wrote: commando biffle wrote: i see ADS go 30\0 to 50\0 every day Thats because they took the time and isk to learn not only to fly but to aim as well and its not as easy as it seems when your new to the ADS i went 25\3 in my test python Im happy for you my first game in 1 was 22/1 with 3 tank kills does it really matter no so it is op
Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 174	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:49:00 - [29] - Quote commando biffle wrote: Tailss Prower wrote: commando biffle wrote: Tailss Prower wrote: commando biffle wrote: i see ADS go 30\0 to 50\0 every day Thats because they took the time and isk to learn not only to fly but to aim as well and its not as easy as it seems when your new to the ADS i went 25\3 in my test python Im happy for you my first game in 1 was 22/1 with 3 tank kills does it really matter no so it is op No
Derpty Derp It's All Gone Derp 20	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:49:00 - [30] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: commando biffle wrote: i see ADS go 30\0 to 50\0 every day What game are you playing? If the other team has no rail tanks it's pretty easy... also if your team is nice enough to take care of the forge gunners/railtanks it also works... Of course I find it easier to start with a Jhad jeep or two to scare off the tommy tankers, then you get mostly clear skys. But I use an incubus... Sure the Python can take out 1 infantry soldier with ease, but it's pretty much dead after that... Even a swarm launcher can take one out.

ALT2 acc The Phoenix Federation 71	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:50:00 - [31] - Quote Tailss Prower wrote: ALT2 acc wrote: Tailss Prower wrote: ALT2 acc wrote: commando biffle wrote: i see ADS go 30\0 to 50\0 every day Obviously killed by a python so makes crap up or enemy team cant 2 shot python You mean with ya'lls noob damage mod stacked sica that your losing in 1.8 You 3 shot pythons with a mlt railgun without the noob mods Only if he doesn't use booster and hardner He has no time to, 2nd snot lands then he activates both then 3rd kills because rails are op and need a rof nerf
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 640	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:51:00 - [32] - Quote I spat my beer everywhere when I read the title. Too funny. Best PVE idea I've seen.
Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 174	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:51:00 - [33] - Quote Just to point out most tanks are mlt tank with mlt fits not many use an actual hardcore tank so getting kills on tanks with ADS Not hard
commando biffle Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 18	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:51:00 - [34] - Quote Tailss Prower wrote: ALT2 acc wrote: Tailss Prower wrote: ALT2 acc wrote: commando biffle wrote: i see ADS go 30\0 to 50\0 every day Obviously killed by a python so makes crap up or enemy team cant 2 shot python You mean with ya'lls noob damage mod stacked sica that your losing in 1.8 You 3 shot pythons with a mlt railgun without the noob mods Only if he doesn't use booster and hardner and the armor reps
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 461	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:53:00 - [35] - Quote commando biffle wrote: the ADS Skill book give 2%small turret damage per level then add the 30% that damage mods gives. Then add the python skill book that gives 10% to missile turret ROF and 5% to missile turret max ammo per level and the proto small missile turret has 455 direct damage and 357.50 AOE then add the the 40% damage buff. That makes it 637 for direct damage and 500.5 in AOE. add a gunner with LV 5 skill to rate of fire the gunner gets 100% rate of fire if both gunner and pilot has LV5 Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 174	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:54:00 - [36] - Quote He has plenty of time it takes me less than a sec to turn them both on and even then i'd already be dodging him
Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 174	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:55:00 - [37] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: commando biffle wrote: the ADS Skill book give 2%small turret damage per level then add the 30% that damage mods gives. Then add the python skill book that gives 10% to missile turret ROF and 5% to missile turret max ammo per level and the proto small missile turret has 455 direct damage and 357.50 AOE then add the the 40% damage buff. That makes it 637 for direct damage and 500.5 in AOE. add a gunner with LV 5 skill to rate of fire the gunner gets 100% rate of fire if both gunner and pilot has LV5 actually that Wouldn't work as pilots skills Don't effect gunners
commando biffle Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 18	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:57:00 - [38] - Quote you said you went 22/1 and got 3 tank kills so you just said that ADS is op
ALT2 acc The Phoenix Federation 71	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:57:00 - [39] - Quote Tailss Prower wrote: He has plenty of time it takes me less than a sec to turn them both on and even then i'd already be dodging him Mif you dont see the tank, no, you cant, by the time you open the wheel and select hardener the 2nd shot landed. Inb4stopstayingstill Im not gunna be moving 50 mph the whole game doing nothing. Just seriously gtfo of dust scrub
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10677	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:57:00 - [40] - Quote Tailss Prower wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: commando biffle wrote: the ADS Skill book give 2%small turret damage per level then add the 30% that damage mods gives. Then add the python skill book that gives 10% to missile turret ROF and 5% to missile turret max ammo per level and the proto small missile turret has 455 direct damage and 357.50 AOE then add the the 40% damage buff. That makes it 637 for direct damage and 500.5 in AOE. add a gunner with LV 5 skill to rate of fire the gunner gets 100% rate of fire if both gunner and pilot has LV5 actually that Wouldn't work as pilots skills Don't effect gunners I'm not sure if they patched it, but last I knew it was a bug that actually does boost the RoF on side guns since it applies the bonus for the pilot and the gunner, when it should take the higher of the two. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot

J0LLY R0G3R 0uter.Heaven 464	Posted - 2014.02.10 21:59:00 - [41] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: I want whatever drugs you are taking. Share! XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
commando biffle Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 18	Posted - 2014.02.10 22:01:00 - [42] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Tailss Prower wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: commando biffle wrote: the ADS Skill book give 2%small turret damage per level then add the 30% that damage mods gives. Then add the python skill book that gives 10% to missile turret ROF and 5% to missile turret max ammo per level and the proto small missile turret has 455 direct damage and 357.50 AOE then add the the 40% damage buff. That makes it 637 for direct damage and 500.5 in AOE. add a gunner with LV 5 skill to rate of fire the gunner gets 100% rate of fire if both gunner and pilot has LV5 actually that Wouldn't work as pilots skills Don't effect gunners I'm not sure if they patched it, but last I knew it was a bug that actually does boost the RoF on side guns since it applies the bonus for the pilot and the gunner, when it should take the higher of the two. it not a bug
commando biffle Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 18	Posted - 2014.02.10 22:02:00 - [43] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: I want whatever drugs you are taking. Share! no jolly you are 2 happy
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 21	Posted - 2014.02.10 22:14:00 - [44] - Quote commando biffle wrote: you said you went 22/1 and got 3 tank kills so you just said that ADS is op Assault dropships are the most expensive thing a single person can buy, so shouldn't they be the most powerfull? Also, if you fly your python in any match where the other team has half competent tankers, you will be railgunned. On a python, you need to run a booster and a hardener. If your running 3 damage mods your dead as soon as you get in railtank range. Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 712	Posted - 2014.02.10 22:16:00 - [45] - Quote commando biffle wrote: the ADS Skill book give 2%small turret damage per level then add the 30% that damage mods gives. Then add the python skill book that gives 10% to missile turret ROF and 5% to missile turret max ammo per level and the proto small missile turret has 455 direct damage and 357.50 AOE then add the the 40% damage buff. That makes it 637 for direct damage and 500.5 in AOE. This is wrong for a few reasons. 1. No python pilot worth his salt fits damage mods. 2. Where are you getting this 40% damage buff from? 3. The amount of time and isk required to be an ace pilot means the pool of pilots is small. 4. A milita sica can two shot even the best assault dropship. Back in beta we use to have quite a bit more damage from skill books. The pilot and gunners skills would stack and gave us something like 50% extra damage. Now its just the pilots skills. Missiles are probably putting out about the same damage. There are two things that can one shot a proto fit python, a partical accelerator and a wiki breach forge gun. This fact alone makes them underpowered for their cost, sp investment, and time required to learn how to fly. Any forge gun and an adv swarm launcher can deny an area for a python. Please don't tell people these lies.
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 21	Posted - 2014.02.10 22:17:00 - [46] - Quote Tailss Prower wrote: He has plenty of time it takes me less than a sec to turn them both on and even then i'd already be dodging him You using a keyboard? Just curious, as it takes me a tad longer, and boosters take half a second to actually boost shields... unless it's just me lagging, in which case QQ Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
ALT2 acc The Phoenix Federation 74	Posted - 2014.02.10 22:17:00 - [47] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: commando biffle wrote: the ADS Skill book give 2%small turret damage per level then add the 30% that damage mods gives. Then add the python skill book that gives 10% to missile turret ROF and 5% to missile turret max ammo per level and the proto small missile turret has 455 direct damage and 357.50 AOE then add the the 40% damage buff. That makes it 637 for direct damage and 500.5 in AOE. This is wrong for a few reasons. 1. No python pilot worth his salt fits damage mods. 2. Where are you getting this 40% damage buff from? 3. The amount of time and isk required to be an ace pilot means the pool of pilots is small. 4. A milita sica can two shot even the best assault dropship. Back in beta we use to have quite a bit more damage from skill books. The pilot and gunners skills would stack and gave us something like 50% extra damage. Now its just the pilots skills. Missiles are probably putting out about the same damage. There are two things that can one shot a proto fit python, a partical accelerator and a wiki breach forge gun. This fact alone makes them underpowered for their cost, sp investment, and time required to learn how to fly. Any forge gun and an adv swarm launcher can deny an area for a python. Please don't tell people these lies. And something that does less damage to shields that 1 shots it is op
J0LLY R0G3R 0uter.Heaven 464	Posted - 2014.02.10 22:18:00 - [48] - Quote commando biffle wrote: J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: I want whatever drugs you are taking. Share! no jolly you are 2 happy 2Jolly? pfft never But on a more serious note, they are too easily countered to be considered op. The scores given as examples of how well it can do (when no one is good enough to counter it) don't count to me at least. 1 forge gunner will make that dropship run at the very least, and continue to run. 1 milita rail tank in the redline will have that guy recalling the dropship and running on the ground or come crashing to said ground. If your firing swarms at it, well...XD keep trying that lol I however would like to know the name of the dropship pilot that dropped 50 and 0 on ya though. If some1 ever did that, I'd remember that name lol. XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
Sir Snugglz Red Star. EoN. 364	Posted - 2014.02.10 22:22:00 - [49] - Quote What I'm getting from this argument is that a standard level (yes, ADS is under standard vehicle) with complexes modules and a proto turret should not be able to take on militia tanks with militia modules and a militia turret..... That's what I'm getting from this post. Someone correct me please... -Luck is just one of my skills -just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1187	Posted - 2014.02.10 22:23:00 - [50] - Quote You d*mn right baby! [best Billy Dee Williams voice] Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!

Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 713	Posted - 2014.02.10 22:28:00 - [51] - Quote Sir Snugglz wrote: What I'm getting from this argument is that a standard level (yes, ADS is under standard vehicle) with complexes modules and a proto turret should not be able to take on militia tanks with militia modules and a militia turret..... That's what I'm getting from this post. Someone correct me please... Yes it can, unless its a rail tank 115m in the redline, then it cant. What I think people are saying is a milita tank can two shot a python. Therefore it cannot be considered op. I'm sure you have killed your fair share of milita tanks this build, as have I but then again think about how long we have been flying for. Not everyone can fly like a condor!
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 713	Posted - 2014.02.10 22:35:00 - [52] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: 2Jolly? pfft never But on a more serious note, they are too easily countered to be considered op. The scores given as examples of how well it can do (when no one is good enough to counter it) don't count to me at least. 1 forge gunner will make that dropship run at the very least, and continue to run. 1 milita rail tank in the redline will have that guy recalling the dropship and running on the ground or come crashing to said ground. If your firing swarms at it, well...XD keep trying that lol I however would like to know the name of the dropship pilot that dropped 50 and 0 on ya though. If some1 ever did that, I'd remember that name lol. Yeah most of the time when assault dropships do very well its because there is little to no av to contest them. I went 21-0 today because all they were pulling out was milita swarms. Eventually someone pulled out a forge and I had to get out, but that was at the end of the game. If I had had a gunner he probably would have gone in the 40's but we have been flying together for months, not just any blue could hop in my dropship and gun like a pro, though there a few exceptional blues out there. Point being no one tried very hard to kill me, so I was able to kill a lot of them. If one had called down a milita sica I probably would have lost that dropship.
Sir Snugglz Red Star. EoN. 364	Posted - 2014.02.10 22:35:00 - [53] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Sir Snugglz wrote: What I'm getting from this argument is that a standard level (yes, ADS is under standard vehicle) with complexes modules and a proto turret should not be able to take on militia tanks with militia modules and a militia turret..... That's what I'm getting from this post. Someone correct me please... Yes it can, unless its a rail tank 115m in the redline, then it cant. What I think people are saying is a milita tank can two shot a python. Therefore it cannot be considered op. I'm sure you have killed your fair share of milita tanks this build, as have I but then again think about how long we have been flying for. Not everyone can fly like a condor! Exactly my point. There's only a handful of true derpship pilots. And the only people complaining are infantry because infantry die by missiles. Everyone knows that a incubus with rails is much more efficient at taking out vehicles. Only difference is vehicle users take it like a man and don't complain. It's your typical "if it can kill me, it needs to be nerfed" argument. -Luck is just one of my skills Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 384	Posted - 2014.02.10 22:36:00 - [54] - Quote Sure is nice to see an ADS hate thread instead of a rail rifle hate thread. I guess the whiners always have to find something to whine about once CCP nerfs what they ask for.
Sir Snugglz Red Star. EoN. 364	Posted - 2014.02.10 22:46:00 - [55] - Quote Also, to tankers complaining about derpship, put a turret on top of your tank. Problem solved. If you choose not to fit one then don't complain about about derpship.. -Luck is just one of my skills Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
Glitch116 On The Brink CRONOS. 60	Posted - 2014.02.10 23:20:00 - [56] - Quote lol i think this is the first time i have ever seen drepships be called op man it makes me laugh my guts out i would +1 for the troll thread but i fear you maybe serious a single AI rail installation can take down a derpship before you can even react so they up and need some loving even though CCP doesn't seem to like them ...... I AM THE KING OF THE BLASTER!!! deal with it
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 461	Posted - 2014.02.10 23:21:00 - [57] - Quote Tailss Prower wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: commando biffle wrote: the ADS Skill book give 2%small turret damage per level then add the 30% that damage mods gives. Then add the python skill book that gives 10% to missile turret ROF and 5% to missile turret max ammo per level and the proto small missile turret has 455 direct damage and 357.50 AOE then add the the 40% damage buff. That makes it 637 for direct damage and 500.5 in AOE. add a gunner with LV 5 skill to rate of fire the gunner gets 100% rate of fire if both gunner and pilot has LV5 actually that Wouldn't work as pilots skills Don't effect gunners YES THEY DO ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
scuba678 the.R3D.kings 129	Posted - 2014.02.10 23:27:00 - [58] - Quote commando biffle wrote: Charlotte O'Dell wrote: And gets 2-shotted by sica 2? really not in my dust If they use 2 damage mods and a proto rail, and you have a damage mod instead of an extender...you coud be close to 1 shot. You very clearly dont play they game alot and are just mad because you got a missle to the head.... stop crying
Glitch116 On The Brink CRONOS. 60	Posted - 2014.02.10 23:29:00 - [59] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: Tailss Prower wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: commando biffle wrote: the ADS Skill book give 2%small turret damage per level then add the 30% that damage mods gives. Then add the python skill book that gives 10% to missile turret ROF and 5% to missile turret max ammo per level and the proto small missile turret has 455 direct damage and 357.50 AOE then add the the 40% damage buff. That makes it 637 for direct damage and 500.5 in AOE. add a gunner with LV 5 skill to rate of fire the gunner gets 100% rate of fire if both gunner and pilot has LV5 actually that Wouldn't work as pilots skills Don't effect gunners YES THEY DO ! only the pilot skill applies in this case if the pilot has Assult Derpship lvl 5 Squid Derpship lvl 5 that is 10% damage 50% rof only the pilot of the craft gives these skills the gunners turret is only affected by the pilot now they use to stack but not any more so even if the gunner has all lvl 5 as well they are not applied to the turret I AM THE KING OF THE BLASTER!!! deal with it
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 1915	Posted - 2014.02.10 23:35:00 - [60] - Quote Fly a dropship, try and line up shots, tell me DS are OP, leave forums. Until you have done it, don't tell me its easy. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6888	Posted - 2014.02.10 23:35:00 - [61] - Quote commando biffle wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: commando biffle wrote: i see ADS go 30\0 to 50\0 every day What game are you playing? cal fw I know Halador is a good pilot he even he doesn't drop ship that well...and he's the best pilot Lokun has....neither does Shyeer. It doesnt happen. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Beld Errmon 0uter.Heaven 1303	Posted - 2014.02.10 23:45:00 - [62] - Quote In the right situation ADS can seem pretty OP, but those situations tend to be enhanced by a number of factors that have nothing to do with the dropship itself, thats about as much effort as i'll put into this nonsense thread.
commando biffle Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 18	Posted - 2014.02.11 00:08:00 - [63] - Quote scuba678 wrote: commando biffle wrote: Charlotte O'Dell wrote: And gets 2-shotted by sica 2? really not in my dust If they use 2 damage mods and a proto rail, and you have a damage mod instead of an extender...you coud be close to 1 shot. You very clearly dont play they game alot and are just mad because you got a missle to the head.... stop crying ben playing 4 2yrs and play every day and the reason that ADS is op is that the railgun is not neff yet as soon as the rail gits nefft at all the ADS spam well bein
ALT2 acc The Phoenix Federation 83	Posted - 2014.02.11 00:11:00 - [64] - Quote commando biffle wrote: scuba678 wrote: commando biffle wrote: Charlotte O'Dell wrote: And gets 2-shotted by sica 2? really not in my dust If they use 2 damage mods and a proto rail, and you have a damage mod instead of an extender...you coud be close to 1 shot. You very clearly dont play they game alot and are just mad because you got a missle to the head.... stop crying ben playing 4 2yrs and play every day and the reason that ADS is op is that the railgun is not neff yet as soon as the rail gits nefft at all the ADS spam well bein Now I know you are a kid Stop bitching about pythons, if anything they are up againstforges and rails
Sir Snugglz Red Star. EoN. 370	Posted - 2014.02.11 00:16:00 - [65] - Quote My signature yo! "Just because we make flying look easy doesn't mean it is." -Luck is just one of my skills Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
GRIMSNIPER69 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 18	Posted - 2014.02.11 03:34:00 - [66] - Quote First off let me just say your ignorant as f*k. Now down to buisness... The Ads skill book adds a total of 10% to all small turrets once maxed out. Thats like 50 hp extra for a pro missle turret if that. And to add thats also a shi ton of sp. A competent pilot would never use dmg mod on his ads not once, not never. Thats as bad as running an afterburnner on a ground vehicle which i have seen. The python is not op its finnaly in a good place as are all ds's. Your feeble minded argument is null in void and you should be squished by every and all ds pilot known to dust. Get your bluberry butt back to drop ship 101 and pay attention you might actually learn something, and learn to think logically before you get back on the forums and compose a poorly thought out agument. !!!!!SKIRMISH OVERHAUL!!!!! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1769463#post1769463
Michael-J-Fox Richards Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 23	Posted - 2014.02.11 03:51:00 - [67] - Quote Dropships are the best i often go 30+ kills and 0 deaths, here is a match i just had http://i57.tinypic.com/vd02sz.jpg and my sig, i dont take pictures of all my games but i got others on my old ps3 hd. railgun turrets and tanks, now those should be nerfed and despised on a personal level lol http://i40.tinypic.com/33w8wtd.jpg Not my highest, but the best one i've taken a picture of. Assault Dropship Pilot
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro Omega Elite Mercs INC. 139	Posted - 2014.02.11 03:57:00 - [68] - Quote Tldr I tested a python with rails and a dmg mod. Mainly for aerial combat and coordinated assault on tanks. Works decently, but very fragile. I run a complex boost, complex 60mm armour, and a complex light shield extender. Just need to be fast and vigilant. FAME
Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 176	Posted - 2014.02.11 20:57:00 - [69] - Quote ALT2 acc wrote: Tailss Prower wrote: He has plenty of time it takes me less than a sec to turn them both on and even then i'd already be dodging him Mif you dont see the tank, no, you cant, by the time you open the wheel and select hardener the 2nd shot landed. Inb4stopstayingstill Im not gunna be moving 50 mph the whole game doing nothing. Just seriously gtfo of dust scrub It you know where the hardner you can select it fast enough that you would'nt even see the wheel
Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 176	Posted - 2014.02.11 21:00:00 - [70] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Tailss Prower wrote: He has plenty of time it takes me less than a sec to turn them both on and even then i'd already be dodging him You using a keyboard? Just curious, as it takes me a tad longer, and boosters take half a second to actually boost shields... unless it's just me lagging, in which case QQ No like i told the other guy if you memorize the location you can select it fast enough that you would'nt even see the wheel

Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 176	Posted - 2014.02.11 21:27:00 - [71] - Quote Glitch116 wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Tailss Prower wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: commando biffle wrote: the ADS Skill book give 2%small turret damage per level then add the 30% that damage mods gives. Then add the python skill book that gives 10% to missile turret ROF and 5% to missile turret max ammo per level and the proto small missile turret has 455 direct damage and 357.50 AOE then add the the 40% damage buff. That makes it 637 for direct damage and 500.5 in AOE. add a gunner with LV 5 skill to rate of fire the gunner gets 100% rate of fire if both gunner and pilot has LV5 actually that Wouldn't work as pilots skills Don't effect gunners YES THEY DO ! only the pilot skill applies in this case if the pilot has Assult Derpship lvl 5 Squid Derpship lvl 5 that is 10% damage 50% rof only the pilot of the craft gives these skills the gunners turret is only affected by the pilot now they use to stack but not any more so even if the gunner has all lvl 5 as well they are not applied to the turret The pilots skills used to not effect gunners
Glitch116 On The Brink CRONOS. 61	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:27:00 - [72] - Quote only the pilot skill applies in this case if the pilot has Assult Derpship lvl 5 Squid Derpship lvl 5 that is 10% damage 50% rof only the pilot of the craft gives these skills the gunners turret is only affected by the pilot now they use to stack but not any more so even if the gunner has all lvl 5 as well they are not applied to the turret [/quote] The pilots skills used to not effect gunners [/quote] they did for a long time there was a big difference between an unskilled gunner and pilot team and one with maxed skills this only changed in uprising I AM THE KING OF THE BLASTER!!! deal with it
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 313	Posted - 2014.02.12 01:38:00 - [73] - Quote Tailss Prower wrote: ALT2 acc wrote: Tailss Prower wrote: He has plenty of time it takes me less than a sec to turn them both on and even then i'd already be dodging him Mif you dont see the tank, no, you cant, by the time you open the wheel and select hardener the 2nd shot landed. Inb4stopstayingstill Im not gunna be moving 50 mph the whole game doing nothing. Just seriously gtfo of dust scrub It you know where the hardner you can select it fast enough that you would'nt even see the wheel you cant do it before the 2nd shot lands 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race


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