DUST Search - When vets say "Respec or I leave"

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Tallen Ellecon wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Tallen Ellecon wrote:

All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. s.

Im sorry, but you are wrong.

a Merc can never have enough SP.
Im at 25mill and i dont have -+ of the stuff i want....

Yes I have over 30 mil and still use boosters, but if I was able to move the 2 mil I'm iffy about instead of grinding and boosting for another 2 then it may not be a large financial loss but on a large scale the potenial of disgruntled vets leaving is less of a hit than booster sales. Besides, things are actually shaping, most of the people who would have left already have, a huge new content expansion would likely bring far more people in.

Like I said, I wouldn't mind one, but I don't expect them to give one.... at least not yet.

I understand your point.
BUT, By your reasoning there will be a time where Most players will Have enough SP to NOT buy Boosters.
In this case CCP will have to come up with something else to sell us.
So why not avoid pissing off vets and most of the infantry community (AGAIN) by giving us a respec AND giving us something else to buy?

You cant make money if you dont have buyers/players either.

Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."

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Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1401	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:26:00 - [1] - Quote All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. If you've been here from the start you'd know things would change, and that's the risk we all take skilling up. At least we've had a couple of months notice, plenty of time to save the SP to spec into something new. If having new suits added without a complete skill refund is a terrible enough offense on you to make you leave maybe they should just stop making new content all together, because this kind of stuff won't stop happening as long as they give us more FREE stuff to play with. I'm not saying they won't give a respec, but it's a bad idea to ASSUME they will or that they have to. It will only make you more disappointed if they don't, and you'll be less prepared for changes. Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 280	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:29:00 - [2] - Quote I say fine, leave. It doesnt bother me a bit if they leave cause they don't get their respec. Do I want one though? A bit yes. But not much of one. I have like 6 skill levels i want back from various things. Thats pretty much it... Dedicated Stealth Scout. Scout instructor; Learning Coalition Scrambler Pistol dedication
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4541	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:33:00 - [3] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. s. Im sorry, but you are wrong. a Merc can never have enough SP. Im at 25mill and i dont have -+ of the stuff i want.... Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 434	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:34:00 - [4] - Quote I say No respecs personaly, but If I do get one Im taking al my SP out of lvl 5 profic 3 SMGs and putting it into the MAGSEC
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 94	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:35:00 - [5] - Quote yeah iwouldnt mind getting that 300 k sp back from my adv swarms that i got back when i had 4 milsp and thought it waas a good idea then proceeded to never use them yes i scream KA-ME-HA-MEHAAAAAA when i forge muthafuckas the Turtle Hermit: Professional Heavy
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 692	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:36:00 - [6] - Quote Gallente Logi suit is useless for the playstyle I'm used to playing in 1.8 due to these new changes. I need the Amarr Logi suit. I won't be "grinding it out" if I don't get a respec, I just will be not be playing. If I get a PS4 and I'm still not playing Dust, I'm afraid I'm going to have to say goodbye to the game.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 905	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:38:00 - [7] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. s. Im sorry, but you are wrong. a Merc can never have enough SP. Im at 25mill and i dont have -+ of the stuff i want.... I'm at 13 and I'm about to have everything I want.
zDemoncake Horizons' Edge 54	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:38:00 - [8] - Quote I personally wouldn't really care if we receive one or not. I have skilled into the things that I have wanted and I make good usage of it. I currently have 1.8 million SP waiting to be spent on a prototype logistics Minmatar suit. I notice that a majority of the community is often against anything that is brought up, or possibly mentioned. For example, during the time of the logistics change topics, many of the Min. Logi's complained about losing their hacking bonus. I could care less because I already have system hacking at level 5. I had already planned on maximizing my armor repair tool so I could support heavy infantry. In the possibility though I would just put my skills back where I have them, but replace some of the weapons I skilled into into more core skills. I will be fully specialized into what I already pretty much have. Just adapt to the game as it changes. We did that for 1.7, right? P.S By adapting I do not mean putting skill points into the supposed FOTM CEO of Horizons' Edge mercenary division *My soul, your beats!* Enemy to many; equal to none.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1403	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:38:00 - [9] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. s. Im sorry, but you are wrong. a Merc can never have enough SP. Im at 25mill and i dont have -+ of the stuff i want.... Yes I have over 30 mil and still use boosters, but if I was able to move the 2 mil I'm iffy about instead of grinding and boosting for another 2 then it may not be a large financial loss but on a large scale the potenial of disgruntled vets leaving is less of a hit than booster sales. Besides, things are actually shaping, most of the people who would have left already have, a huge new content expansion would likely bring far more people in. Like I said, I wouldn't mind one, but I don't expect them to give one.... at least not yet. Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 4506	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:39:00 - [10] - Quote I'm at 35 mil SP with 4 mil unallocated. I need new things to spec into. oh wait, wrong thread.

Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1408	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:39:00 - [11] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Gallente Logi suit is useless for the playstyle I'm used to playing in 1.8 due to these new changes. I need the Amarr Logi suit. I won't be "grinding it out" if I don't get a respec, I just will be not be playing. If I get a PS4 and I'm still not playing Dust, I'm afraid I'm going to have to say goodbye to the game. Can i haz your ISK? Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
Kane Fyea 2603	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:39:00 - [12] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. s. Im sorry, but you are wrong. a Merc can never have enough SP. Im at 25mill and i dont have -+ of the stuff i want.... I'm at 15 mill SP and I have most of the stuff I want.
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt 0uter.Heaven 362	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:43:00 - [13] - Quote Joel II X wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. s. Im sorry, but you are wrong. a Merc can never have enough SP. Im at 25mill and i dont have -+ of the stuff i want.... I'm at 13 and I'm about to have everything I want. lol that's what you think..
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4542	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:43:00 - [14] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. s. Im sorry, but you are wrong. a Merc can never have enough SP. Im at 25mill and i dont have -+ of the stuff i want.... Yes I have over 30 mil and still use boosters, but if I was able to move the 2 mil I'm iffy about instead of grinding and boosting for another 2 then it may not be a large financial loss but on a large scale the potenial of disgruntled vets leaving is less of a hit than booster sales. Besides, things are actually shaping, most of the people who would have left already have, a huge new content expansion would likely bring far more people in. Like I said, I wouldn't mind one, but I don't expect them to give one.... at least not yet. I understand your point. BUT, By your reasoning there will be a time where Most players will Have enough SP to NOT buy Boosters. In this case CCP will have to come up with something else to sell us. So why not avoid pissing off vets and most of the infantry community (AGAIN) by giving us a respec AND giving us something else to buy? You cant make money if you dont have buyers/players either. Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 692	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:57:00 - [15] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Gallente Logi suit is useless for the playstyle I'm used to playing in 1.8 due to these new changes. I need the Amarr Logi suit. I won't be "grinding it out" if I don't get a respec, I just will be not be playing. If I get a PS4 and I'm still not playing Dust, I'm afraid I'm going to have to say goodbye to the game. Can i haz your ISK? I'm afraid the Corp comes first sorry.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1408	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:59:00 - [16] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Gallente Logi suit is useless for the playstyle I'm used to playing in 1.8 due to these new changes. I need the Amarr Logi suit. I won't be "grinding it out" if I don't get a respec, I just will be not be playing. If I get a PS4 and I'm still not playing Dust, I'm afraid I'm going to have to say goodbye to the game. Can i haz your ISK? I'm afraid the Corp comes first sorry. Well I'm a Gal Logi too..... if there is player trading can i haz your suits? Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10647	Posted - 2014.02.09 06:00:00 - [17] - Quote I wouldn't buy a booster if what I spend it on is just going to drastically change on a whim. That's just being a stupid consumer. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1408	Posted - 2014.02.09 06:02:00 - [18] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. s. Im sorry, but you are wrong. a Merc can never have enough SP. Im at 25mill and i dont have -+ of the stuff i want.... Yes I have over 30 mil and still use boosters, but if I was able to move the 2 mil I'm iffy about instead of grinding and boosting for another 2 then it may not be a large financial loss but on a large scale the potenial of disgruntled vets leaving is less of a hit than booster sales. Besides, things are actually shaping, most of the people who would have left already have, a huge new content expansion would likely bring far more people in. Like I said, I wouldn't mind one, but I don't expect them to give one.... at least not yet. I understand your point. BUT, By your reasoning there will be a time where Most players will Have enough SP to NOT buy Boosters. In this case CCP will have to come up with something else to sell us. So why not avoid pissing off vets and most of the infantry community (AGAIN) by giving us a respec AND giving us something else to buy? You cant make money if you dont have buyers/players either. This is why they'll keep releasing new content. Having a character that can specialize in multiple roles makes a great asset. Asssuming every suit was given a unique advantage nothing would become completely useless. What about people who join after the respec? They'd throw 1000 vets under the bus if it meant 10,000 new players. Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
Onesimus Tarsus 1145	Posted - 2014.02.09 06:04:00 - [19] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I wouldn't buy a booster if what I spend it on is just going to drastically change on a whim. That's just being a stupid consumer. A-men! Spock, the Rock, Doc Ock and Hulk Hogan.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1408	Posted - 2014.02.09 06:05:00 - [20] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I wouldn't buy a booster if what I spend it on is just going to drastically change on a whim. That's just being a stupid consumer. I agree, that's why I've invested mostly in core skills. Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."

DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10648	Posted - 2014.02.09 06:08:00 - [21] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I wouldn't buy a booster if what I spend it on is just going to drastically change on a whim. That's just being a stupid consumer. I agree, that's why I've invested mostly in core skills. I've had those maxed for forever. For me, it's a matter of fun. That's it. I couldn't give two ***** about what's the best build. I care about spending my earned SP in relation to new framework. I barely even play these days, haven't for a while now. If CCP decides to screw us over, I have nooo problems taking a good long break from dust and just letting the passive build up. I could not remotely care less. If CCP makes the right call, I'll stick around a bit longer and put some work in with my scout. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 720	Posted - 2014.02.09 06:37:00 - [22] - Quote If I get a respec I would spend less on SR and not purchase SMG sharpshooter (at least not right away). That being the case it really doesn't matter if I get a respec or not 'cause anything I choose not to spend sp on now I would just do later. As a newberry I researched as much of the game as I could before even coming to the forums. If I made a mistake I caught it right away. It took me 3 tries to figure out my path but once I got it I have never looked back. Nearly 12m SP down and no regrets! Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 381	Posted - 2014.02.09 06:38:00 - [23] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I wouldn't buy a booster if what I spend it on is just going to drastically change on a whim. That's just being a stupid consumer. It does feel pretty stupid to buy accelerated SP for a game where that SP could be worthless next update. All those millions of wasted SP in swarms, laser rifles, flaylocks and other things. Sure those things will fixed SoonGäó but in the mean time, I'd rather just not pay money until I know it will be worth spending. If this game were a subscription game, I'd have stopped playing back in October or so. Likely wouldn't have been paying attention to updates by now either.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 881	Posted - 2014.02.09 07:08:00 - [24] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Gallente Logi suit is useless for the playstyle I'm used to playing in 1.8 due to these new changes. I need the Amarr Logi suit. I won't be "grinding it out" if I don't get a respec, I just will be not be playing. If I get a PS4 and I'm still not playing Dust, I'm afraid I'm going to have to say goodbye to the game. So basically, you are leaving no matter what. Why get a respec then? PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8. That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4050	Posted - 2014.02.09 07:26:00 - [25] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Gallente Logi suit is useless for the playstyle I'm used to playing in 1.8 due to these new changes. I need the Amarr Logi suit. I won't be "grinding it out" if I don't get a respec, I just will be not be playing. If I get a PS4 and I'm still not playing Dust, I'm afraid I'm going to have to say goodbye to the game. So basically, you are leaving no matter what. Why get a respec then? No, he said that he will stop playing the game if he does not get a respec. He then said that he will leave the game permanently if he gets a PS4 and is no longer playing the game. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 692	Posted - 2014.02.09 07:27:00 - [26] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Gallente Logi suit is useless for the playstyle I'm used to playing in 1.8 due to these new changes. I need the Amarr Logi suit. I won't be "grinding it out" if I don't get a respec, I just will be not be playing. If I get a PS4 and I'm still not playing Dust, I'm afraid I'm going to have to say goodbye to the game. So basically, you are leaving no matter what. Why get a respec then? I'm leaving only if I'm not playing Dust by the time I get a PS4. That would mean I've accumulated enough passive SP in order to skill into the playstyle I want. It took a hell of a long time to grind the stuff I have now, I'm too worn down from this game at this point to grind from square one due to these changes. And hard-nerfing the EQ Logistics depends on, then adding "bonuses" that bring the EQ up to pre-1.8 levels should mean at least a partial respec. Unless you like paying for a car only for it to transform into a scooter.
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 159	Posted - 2014.02.09 08:04:00 - [27] - Quote 32 million on THE GREY CARDINAL with 8.5 unallocated. I don't even know if I have half, all or none of what I want right now in regards to what's coming in 1.8 as I haven't fully decided what I'm going to do outside of Gal scout and logi. You can never have enough SP though. Dropsuit core upgrades should be maxed, weapons of choice should be maxed...then there are vehicles.... Well, I'm one vet who will be here with or without respec because I'm a badass who prepares for all eventualities so can always win. But relax, we're getting one. Atli Mar's words at EVE Vegas were extremely indicative of us getting one. Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2807	Posted - 2014.02.09 08:16:00 - [28] - Quote I've got 33 mill and that's not enough. Logi is a HUGE SP sink, about to be drilled deeper in 1.8. I'm trying to get back into dropships which were doubled in 1.7.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1190	Posted - 2014.02.09 08:20:00 - [29] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Gallente Logi suit is useless for the playstyle I'm used to playing in 1.8 due to these new changes. I need the Amarr Logi suit. I won't be "grinding it out" if I don't get a respec, I just will be not be playing. If I get a PS4 and I'm still not playing Dust, I'm afraid I'm going to have to say goodbye to the game. No respec in 1.8 will be a nail in the coffin for many players. Prepare for 1.8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPhISgw3I2w
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1413	Posted - 2014.02.09 08:26:00 - [30] - Quote Why is the Gallente Logi change so terrible? It's losing a+5 armor rep for a scanner bonus which will very valuable with cloaking devices added. It may not be why you specced into it but why not make the most of it? If another suit better suits your style just skill into that, there has been plenty of time to save SP before 1.8. Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."



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