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Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1401	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:26:00 - [1] - Quote All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. If you've been here from the start you'd know things would change, and that's the risk we all take skilling up. At least we've had a couple of months notice, plenty of time to save the SP to spec into something new. If having new suits added without a complete skill refund is a terrible enough offense on you to make you leave maybe they should just stop making new content all together, because this kind of stuff won't stop happening as long as they give us more FREE stuff to play with. I'm not saying they won't give a respec, but it's a bad idea to ASSUME they will or that they have to. It will only make you more disappointed if they don't, and you'll be less prepared for changes. Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 280	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:29:00 - [2] - Quote I say fine, leave. It doesnt bother me a bit if they leave cause they don't get their respec. Do I want one though? A bit yes. But not much of one. I have like 6 skill levels i want back from various things. Thats pretty much it... Dedicated Stealth Scout. Scout instructor; Learning Coalition Scrambler Pistol dedication
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4541	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:33:00 - [3] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. s. Im sorry, but you are wrong. a Merc can never have enough SP. Im at 25mill and i dont have -+ of the stuff i want.... Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 434	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:34:00 - [4] - Quote I say No respecs personaly, but If I do get one Im taking al my SP out of lvl 5 profic 3 SMGs and putting it into the MAGSEC
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 94	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:35:00 - [5] - Quote yeah iwouldnt mind getting that 300 k sp back from my adv swarms that i got back when i had 4 milsp and thought it waas a good idea then proceeded to never use them yes i scream KA-ME-HA-MEHAAAAAA when i forge muthafuckas the Turtle Hermit: Professional Heavy
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 692	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:36:00 - [6] - Quote Gallente Logi suit is useless for the playstyle I'm used to playing in 1.8 due to these new changes. I need the Amarr Logi suit. I won't be "grinding it out" if I don't get a respec, I just will be not be playing. If I get a PS4 and I'm still not playing Dust, I'm afraid I'm going to have to say goodbye to the game.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 905	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:38:00 - [7] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. s. Im sorry, but you are wrong. a Merc can never have enough SP. Im at 25mill and i dont have -+ of the stuff i want.... I'm at 13 and I'm about to have everything I want.
zDemoncake Horizons' Edge 54	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:38:00 - [8] - Quote I personally wouldn't really care if we receive one or not. I have skilled into the things that I have wanted and I make good usage of it. I currently have 1.8 million SP waiting to be spent on a prototype logistics Minmatar suit. I notice that a majority of the community is often against anything that is brought up, or possibly mentioned. For example, during the time of the logistics change topics, many of the Min. Logi's complained about losing their hacking bonus. I could care less because I already have system hacking at level 5. I had already planned on maximizing my armor repair tool so I could support heavy infantry. In the possibility though I would just put my skills back where I have them, but replace some of the weapons I skilled into into more core skills. I will be fully specialized into what I already pretty much have. Just adapt to the game as it changes. We did that for 1.7, right? P.S By adapting I do not mean putting skill points into the supposed FOTM CEO of Horizons' Edge mercenary division *My soul, your beats!* Enemy to many; equal to none.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1403	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:38:00 - [9] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. s. Im sorry, but you are wrong. a Merc can never have enough SP. Im at 25mill and i dont have -+ of the stuff i want.... Yes I have over 30 mil and still use boosters, but if I was able to move the 2 mil I'm iffy about instead of grinding and boosting for another 2 then it may not be a large financial loss but on a large scale the potenial of disgruntled vets leaving is less of a hit than booster sales. Besides, things are actually shaping, most of the people who would have left already have, a huge new content expansion would likely bring far more people in. Like I said, I wouldn't mind one, but I don't expect them to give one.... at least not yet. Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 4506	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:39:00 - [10] - Quote I'm at 35 mil SP with 4 mil unallocated. I need new things to spec into. oh wait, wrong thread.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1408	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:39:00 - [11] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Gallente Logi suit is useless for the playstyle I'm used to playing in 1.8 due to these new changes. I need the Amarr Logi suit. I won't be "grinding it out" if I don't get a respec, I just will be not be playing. If I get a PS4 and I'm still not playing Dust, I'm afraid I'm going to have to say goodbye to the game. Can i haz your ISK? Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
Kane Fyea 2603	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:39:00 - [12] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. s. Im sorry, but you are wrong. a Merc can never have enough SP. Im at 25mill and i dont have -+ of the stuff i want.... I'm at 15 mill SP and I have most of the stuff I want.
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt 0uter.Heaven 362	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:43:00 - [13] - Quote Joel II X wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. s. Im sorry, but you are wrong. a Merc can never have enough SP. Im at 25mill and i dont have -+ of the stuff i want.... I'm at 13 and I'm about to have everything I want. lol that's what you think..
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4542	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:43:00 - [14] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. s. Im sorry, but you are wrong. a Merc can never have enough SP. Im at 25mill and i dont have -+ of the stuff i want.... Yes I have over 30 mil and still use boosters, but if I was able to move the 2 mil I'm iffy about instead of grinding and boosting for another 2 then it may not be a large financial loss but on a large scale the potenial of disgruntled vets leaving is less of a hit than booster sales. Besides, things are actually shaping, most of the people who would have left already have, a huge new content expansion would likely bring far more people in. Like I said, I wouldn't mind one, but I don't expect them to give one.... at least not yet. I understand your point. BUT, By your reasoning there will be a time where Most players will Have enough SP to NOT buy Boosters. In this case CCP will have to come up with something else to sell us. So why not avoid pissing off vets and most of the infantry community (AGAIN) by giving us a respec AND giving us something else to buy? You cant make money if you dont have buyers/players either. Support Amarr scout bonus change! : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813029#post1813029
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 692	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:57:00 - [15] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Gallente Logi suit is useless for the playstyle I'm used to playing in 1.8 due to these new changes. I need the Amarr Logi suit. I won't be "grinding it out" if I don't get a respec, I just will be not be playing. If I get a PS4 and I'm still not playing Dust, I'm afraid I'm going to have to say goodbye to the game. Can i haz your ISK? I'm afraid the Corp comes first sorry.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1408	Posted - 2014.02.09 05:59:00 - [16] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Gallente Logi suit is useless for the playstyle I'm used to playing in 1.8 due to these new changes. I need the Amarr Logi suit. I won't be "grinding it out" if I don't get a respec, I just will be not be playing. If I get a PS4 and I'm still not playing Dust, I'm afraid I'm going to have to say goodbye to the game. Can i haz your ISK? I'm afraid the Corp comes first sorry. Well I'm a Gal Logi too..... if there is player trading can i haz your suits? Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10647	Posted - 2014.02.09 06:00:00 - [17] - Quote I wouldn't buy a booster if what I spend it on is just going to drastically change on a whim. That's just being a stupid consumer. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1408	Posted - 2014.02.09 06:02:00 - [18] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. s. Im sorry, but you are wrong. a Merc can never have enough SP. Im at 25mill and i dont have -+ of the stuff i want.... Yes I have over 30 mil and still use boosters, but if I was able to move the 2 mil I'm iffy about instead of grinding and boosting for another 2 then it may not be a large financial loss but on a large scale the potenial of disgruntled vets leaving is less of a hit than booster sales. Besides, things are actually shaping, most of the people who would have left already have, a huge new content expansion would likely bring far more people in. Like I said, I wouldn't mind one, but I don't expect them to give one.... at least not yet. I understand your point. BUT, By your reasoning there will be a time where Most players will Have enough SP to NOT buy Boosters. In this case CCP will have to come up with something else to sell us. So why not avoid pissing off vets and most of the infantry community (AGAIN) by giving us a respec AND giving us something else to buy? You cant make money if you dont have buyers/players either. This is why they'll keep releasing new content. Having a character that can specialize in multiple roles makes a great asset. Asssuming every suit was given a unique advantage nothing would become completely useless. What about people who join after the respec? They'd throw 1000 vets under the bus if it meant 10,000 new players. Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
Onesimus Tarsus 1145	Posted - 2014.02.09 06:04:00 - [19] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I wouldn't buy a booster if what I spend it on is just going to drastically change on a whim. That's just being a stupid consumer. A-men! Spock, the Rock, Doc Ock and Hulk Hogan.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1408	Posted - 2014.02.09 06:05:00 - [20] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I wouldn't buy a booster if what I spend it on is just going to drastically change on a whim. That's just being a stupid consumer. I agree, that's why I've invested mostly in core skills. Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10648	Posted - 2014.02.09 06:08:00 - [21] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I wouldn't buy a booster if what I spend it on is just going to drastically change on a whim. That's just being a stupid consumer. I agree, that's why I've invested mostly in core skills. I've had those maxed for forever. For me, it's a matter of fun. That's it. I couldn't give two ***** about what's the best build. I care about spending my earned SP in relation to new framework. I barely even play these days, haven't for a while now. If CCP decides to screw us over, I have nooo problems taking a good long break from dust and just letting the passive build up. I could not remotely care less. If CCP makes the right call, I'll stick around a bit longer and put some work in with my scout. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
ALPHA DECRIPTER Dragon-Empire 720	Posted - 2014.02.09 06:37:00 - [22] - Quote If I get a respec I would spend less on SR and not purchase SMG sharpshooter (at least not right away). That being the case it really doesn't matter if I get a respec or not 'cause anything I choose not to spend sp on now I would just do later. As a newberry I researched as much of the game as I could before even coming to the forums. If I made a mistake I caught it right away. It took me 3 tries to figure out my path but once I got it I have never looked back. Nearly 12m SP down and no regrets! Scout Tactician Dance puppets, DANCE!
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 381	Posted - 2014.02.09 06:38:00 - [23] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I wouldn't buy a booster if what I spend it on is just going to drastically change on a whim. That's just being a stupid consumer. It does feel pretty stupid to buy accelerated SP for a game where that SP could be worthless next update. All those millions of wasted SP in swarms, laser rifles, flaylocks and other things. Sure those things will fixed SoonGäó but in the mean time, I'd rather just not pay money until I know it will be worth spending. If this game were a subscription game, I'd have stopped playing back in October or so. Likely wouldn't have been paying attention to updates by now either.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 881	Posted - 2014.02.09 07:08:00 - [24] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Gallente Logi suit is useless for the playstyle I'm used to playing in 1.8 due to these new changes. I need the Amarr Logi suit. I won't be "grinding it out" if I don't get a respec, I just will be not be playing. If I get a PS4 and I'm still not playing Dust, I'm afraid I'm going to have to say goodbye to the game. So basically, you are leaving no matter what. Why get a respec then? PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8. That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4050	Posted - 2014.02.09 07:26:00 - [25] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Gallente Logi suit is useless for the playstyle I'm used to playing in 1.8 due to these new changes. I need the Amarr Logi suit. I won't be "grinding it out" if I don't get a respec, I just will be not be playing. If I get a PS4 and I'm still not playing Dust, I'm afraid I'm going to have to say goodbye to the game. So basically, you are leaving no matter what. Why get a respec then? No, he said that he will stop playing the game if he does not get a respec. He then said that he will leave the game permanently if he gets a PS4 and is no longer playing the game. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 692	Posted - 2014.02.09 07:27:00 - [26] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Gallente Logi suit is useless for the playstyle I'm used to playing in 1.8 due to these new changes. I need the Amarr Logi suit. I won't be "grinding it out" if I don't get a respec, I just will be not be playing. If I get a PS4 and I'm still not playing Dust, I'm afraid I'm going to have to say goodbye to the game. So basically, you are leaving no matter what. Why get a respec then? I'm leaving only if I'm not playing Dust by the time I get a PS4. That would mean I've accumulated enough passive SP in order to skill into the playstyle I want. It took a hell of a long time to grind the stuff I have now, I'm too worn down from this game at this point to grind from square one due to these changes. And hard-nerfing the EQ Logistics depends on, then adding "bonuses" that bring the EQ up to pre-1.8 levels should mean at least a partial respec. Unless you like paying for a car only for it to transform into a scooter.
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 159	Posted - 2014.02.09 08:04:00 - [27] - Quote 32 million on THE GREY CARDINAL with 8.5 unallocated. I don't even know if I have half, all or none of what I want right now in regards to what's coming in 1.8 as I haven't fully decided what I'm going to do outside of Gal scout and logi. You can never have enough SP though. Dropsuit core upgrades should be maxed, weapons of choice should be maxed...then there are vehicles.... Well, I'm one vet who will be here with or without respec because I'm a badass who prepares for all eventualities so can always win. But relax, we're getting one. Atli Mar's words at EVE Vegas were extremely indicative of us getting one. Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2807	Posted - 2014.02.09 08:16:00 - [28] - Quote I've got 33 mill and that's not enough. Logi is a HUGE SP sink, about to be drilled deeper in 1.8. I'm trying to get back into dropships which were doubled in 1.7.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1190	Posted - 2014.02.09 08:20:00 - [29] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Gallente Logi suit is useless for the playstyle I'm used to playing in 1.8 due to these new changes. I need the Amarr Logi suit. I won't be "grinding it out" if I don't get a respec, I just will be not be playing. If I get a PS4 and I'm still not playing Dust, I'm afraid I'm going to have to say goodbye to the game. No respec in 1.8 will be a nail in the coffin for many players. Prepare for 1.8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPhISgw3I2w
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1413	Posted - 2014.02.09 08:26:00 - [30] - Quote Why is the Gallente Logi change so terrible? It's losing a+5 armor rep for a scanner bonus which will very valuable with cloaking devices added. It may not be why you specced into it but why not make the most of it? If another suit better suits your style just skill into that, there has been plenty of time to save SP before 1.8. Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 897	Posted - 2014.02.09 08:29:00 - [31] - Quote CCP needs us to buy boosters? PFFT If they want us to buy boosters first they're gonna have to give us our SP back the we already got through boosters and was turned into useless garbage. What about people who bought swarms or flaylocks? They were great, then turned into an SP sink with no reward at all. What about people who got the minmatar logis for the hacking bonuss the spent millions os SP on hacking mods and damage mods? The damage mods get nerfed to garbage, and the suit bonuss replaced with LOLREPTOOLBONUS. Thats over 5mil SP down the drain on subpar suit with virtually useless mods. How many boosters you think it took him to get that 5 mil? So you spend REAL money, ALOT of real money, only to get it turned into garbage overnight and your money turns into a waste. E.g. How many bought thousands of fused locus grenades for AUR. So, everyone stopped spending money past 1.4 really. Hardly anyone buys boosters anymore unless its a SP event. Because we know its a waste. Same reason you don't invest in anything in wartorn regions economically, overnight a new faction comes to power and seizes all assets, so you lose your investment. How to get likes: post QQ reply to every thread where a PC corps players post claiming they only win cus "FOTM"
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2807	Posted - 2014.02.09 08:30:00 - [32] - Quote I won't biomass if I don't get a chance to dump the skills CCP made obsolete, but I'll probably quit playing for a long time. I've been playing for a year and a half now, grinding out my cap every week, and I'm burning out. Tell me that I have to do it for one more year to climb out of the new hole and it will be a great reason to give it up.
Slim Winning BIG BAD W0LVES 38	Posted - 2014.02.09 08:31:00 - [33] - Quote The more SP you gain, the higher up the ranks you ascend. Once you break 10m, you're a force to not be taken lightly in pub matches. Then you start playing against high profile players, you start to get into PC matches here-and-there. Your 10m SP ain't jack doodle against those guys. You final break 20m you have a character that's molded to your perfection. You're core strengths are accentuated. You're a guy that gets called in as a ringer with confidence. Then, you move into a PC corp and play 5-10 PCs a day(before the locks) and you realize that your 20m SP ain't jack doodle against those guys. There are always 3-tiers of players 3. Casual 2. Do-gooders 1. The top elite that won't settle for anything but 1st place against any & all comers. Better example 3. Slim Winning (me), etc. 2. Mr. Machine Guns, etc. 3. Espeon, etc.
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 159	Posted - 2014.02.09 08:39:00 - [34] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: So, everyone stopped spending money past 1.4 really. Hardly anyone buys boosters anymore unless its a SP event. Because we know its a waste. Wish I was privy to your source of info, which I'm SURE isn't anecdotal. I still use boosters for both my mercs and the guys I play with use em too. Not everyone is jaded and butt devastated. Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1190	Posted - 2014.02.09 08:41:00 - [35] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: So you spend REAL money, ALOT of real money, only to get it turned into garbage overnight and your money turns into a waste. QFT. But CCP will just tell you that any skill you skilled into is not a waste (not true, since many weapons are completely useless right now due to the current game mechanics. Example: Plasma cannon, MD). Prepare for 1.8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPhISgw3I2w
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2807	Posted - 2014.02.09 08:43:00 - [36] - Quote I'm still boosting both passive and active, but I feel as though I'm losing ground even as I'm running full speed.
Sgt Buttscratch lcritMYpantS 1487	Posted - 2014.02.09 09:44:00 - [37] - Quote I don't care if we get one, my only mispent skillpoints ATM are in LR + profic, I have saved a bunch of SP also. I do believe with all the new suits being released that a respec would be healthy for dust514 though I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 324	Posted - 2014.02.09 09:56:00 - [38] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. s. Im sorry, but you are wrong. a Merc can never have enough SP. Im at 25mill and i dont have -+ of the stuff i want.... I'm inclined to agree, NEVER have I heard a Vet say no respect or they'll leave , if anything i hear the opposite. I know a respect will happen because of confirmed issues on the forum these include. New Suits, respect to give people a chance to use them. Old suits changing racial bonus, Respec needed. Weapos, (RR) damage nerf, respect needed Whether people like it or not, it's going to happen on one form or another, and as I said before, this may not include vehicles because this was recently done, but could also include vehicles because it's already been mentioned that some HAV's need a change. The Organ Grinder & Co. EVE Heavenly Daughter-Merc Records
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 405	Posted - 2014.02.09 10:04:00 - [39] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: When vets say "Respec or I leave" I smile a bit and continue with my life I will show you fear in a handful of dust. 1.7 best match (HMG): 40/9/9 (K/A/D)
Ryme Intrinseca 633	Posted - 2014.02.09 10:05:00 - [40] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet without a respec has less use for the game Fixed
Ryme Intrinseca 634	Posted - 2014.02.09 10:16:00 - [41] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Gallente Logi suit is useless for the playstyle I'm used to playing in 1.8 due to these new changes. I need the Amarr Logi suit. I won't be "grinding it out" if I don't get a respec, I just will be not be playing. If I get a PS4 and I'm still not playing Dust, I'm afraid I'm going to have to say goodbye to the game. Exactly, the Min logi gets hit esp hard because the new bonus implies a totally different role for the suit. I have a thread about that round here somewhere. I've let boosters expire for the first time in six months simply because, if they don't give at least a partial skill refund, my 30 mil SP will have given me zero viable suits (amarr heavy frame is totally uncompetitive in 1.8 as well) and I'll drop the game. There is no way I'm grinding for months just to get back to where I was in Summer 2013.
Scar Scrilla UN1TED NATIONS 113	Posted - 2014.02.09 10:17:00 - [42] - Quote Stop QQ and go grind like everbody else. If you don't like it just leave- no one will care or miss you. "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses" -Mostly Heavies- Join our public channel: UN1TE
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1601	Posted - 2014.02.09 10:24:00 - [43] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I wouldn't buy a booster if what I spend it on is just going to drastically change on a whim. That's just being a stupid consumer. Usually it is not on a whim and there is plenty of time before the change to do any saving needed. GÇ£No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride." Hunter S. Thompson
Kal Kronos L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 186	Posted - 2014.02.09 10:58:00 - [44] - Quote They ** on my already half ass suit, I dont want my points back I want them to not on my suit. ***** reload bonus you've got to be kidding me, been there done that was worthless. I want vanity suits more than anything, sell me flying dutchman suits on the market or other cool paint jobs to show off in facwar barge. What's not to love about the scrambler rifle, the thing is a precision weapon and at the same time a shotgun.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1203	Posted - 2014.02.09 11:13:00 - [45] - Quote lol! @ newberries telling folks to leave. those idiots missed the fact theres new PS4, new PS4 games to go play . warframe , Planetside 2, Blacklight, Deep Down all PS4, all free versus a single ps3 dust game. then add PS4 games Infamous, Destiny, Division , Borderlands 3, Fallout 4, Watch Dogs , Diablo 3, yeah pissing cash customers off with no respec ???? Hey FANBOYS!!!!!! Wake up and smell the next gen. Smell the day of decreased player counts. Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1203	Posted - 2014.02.09 11:17:00 - [46] - Quote Scar Scrilla wrote: Stop QQ and go grind like everbody else. If you don't like it just leave- no one will care or miss you. once PS4 December hits no one will care or miss PS3 CCP FANBOYS .....lol. Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1194	Posted - 2014.02.09 11:19:00 - [47] - Quote Guys, remember, you vote with your wallet in F2P games. Prepare for 1.8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPhISgw3I2w
Scar Scrilla UN1TED NATIONS 113	Posted - 2014.02.09 11:42:00 - [48] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Scar Scrilla wrote: Stop QQ and go grind like everbody else. If you don't like it just leave- no one will care or miss you. once PS4 December hits no one will care or miss PS3 CCP FANBOYS .....lol. Haha, you mad? Ged gudd and shut the **** up scrub "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses" -Mostly Heavies- Join our public channel: UN1TE
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 6287	Posted - 2014.02.09 11:56:00 - [49] - Quote I want a respec because **** is changing significantly. Whole suits changed their roles entirely. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1203	Posted - 2014.02.09 12:07:00 - [50] - Quote Scar Scrilla wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Scar Scrilla wrote: Stop QQ and go grind like everbody else. If you don't like it just leave- no one will care or miss you. once PS4 December hits no one will care or miss PS3 CCP FANBOYS .....lol. Haha, you mad? Ged gudd and shut the **** up scrub your kdr 1.30......lol! 12,900 kills total lol. hey FANBOY how does getting better at Dust help with player counts ?? if you have nothing worthwhile to say then why post?? Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1203	Posted - 2014.02.09 12:10:00 - [51] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Guys, remember, you vote with your wallet in F2P games. its not money thats the issue . its 16 v 16 that got old add burnout add newer PS4 games there better be a respec Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Scar Scrilla UN1TED NATIONS 113	Posted - 2014.02.09 12:14:00 - [52] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Scar Scrilla wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Scar Scrilla wrote: Stop QQ and go grind like everbody else. If you don't like it just leave- no one will care or miss you. once PS4 December hits no one will care or miss PS3 CCP FANBOYS .....lol. Haha, you mad? Ged gudd and shut the ** up scrub your kdr 1.30......lol! 12,900 kills total lol. hey FANBOY how does getting better at Dust help with player counts ?? if you have nothing worthwhile to say then why post?? You are very mad lol......If you really think a respec alone is gonna save this game, keep on believing you sad little whiner :) The fact is: You are just sad u can't skill into the FOTM from the get go of 1.8 As said above, go grind and shut the ** up, cuz obviously nobody cares what u have to say, ok? "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses" -Mostly Heavies- Join our public channel: UN1TE
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4435	Posted - 2014.02.09 12:15:00 - [53] - Quote Quote: When vets say "Respec or I leave" ...real vets reply "can I have your ISK?"
Neo Rinzler Commando Perkone Caldari State 13	Posted - 2014.02.09 12:15:00 - [54] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. If you've been here from the start you'd know things would change, and that's the risk we all take skilling up. At least we've had a couple of months notice, plenty of time to save the SP to spec into something new. If having new suits added without a complete skill refund is a terrible enough offense on you to make you leave maybe they should just stop making new content all together, because this kind of stuff won't stop happening as long as they give us more FREE stuff to play with. I'm not saying they won't give a respec, but it's a bad idea to ASSUME they will or that they have to. It will only make you more disappointed if they don't, and you'll be less prepared for changes. It's not the speccing into something new it's the fact that they are changing pretty much all dropsuit roles which is going to affect weaponry and upgrades that people have skilled into If they were adding 1 sidearm then okay fair enough you can accept no skill refund but a total overhaul to all dropsuits is a major change to infantry and really should come with a full refund for Dropsuit Command,Dropsuit Upgrades and Weaponry CCP not giving infantry a complete skill refund in 1.8 is like sitting over 75% of there player base and taking a dump on them, if puttign up with OP tnanks for 3 months wasn't a big enough dump on infantry already 1.8 could be the guillotine coming down on infantry ending their association with this game and CCP permenantly
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2066	Posted - 2014.02.09 12:25:00 - [55] - Quote If there isn't a dropsuit related skill refund, I just won't play for a 4-5 months and get passive. I didn't grind to my first Protosuit just so I would have to do it again a year later. Ain't happ'nin'. Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II MAG ~ Seryi Volk Executive Response
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1529	Posted - 2014.02.09 13:19:00 - [56] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. If you've been here from the start you'd know things would change, and that's the risk we all take skilling up. At least we've had a couple of months notice, plenty of time to save the SP to spec into something new. If having new suits added without a complete skill refund is a terrible enough offense on you to make you leave maybe they should just stop making new content all together, because this kind of stuff won't stop happening as long as they give us more FREE stuff to play with. I'm not saying they won't give a respec, but it's a bad idea to ASSUME they will or that they have to. It will only make you more disappointed if they don't, and you'll be less prepared for changes. I thought it would be a dropsuit skills respec and not a total infantry respec Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1197	Posted - 2014.02.09 13:31:00 - [57] - Quote Imagine if this game had a subscription model. It would not be acceptable to skip refunding SP in the case of lager changes. Why is it acceptable with a f2p model? People are stupid if they accept this. Prepare for 1.8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPhISgw3I2w
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10649	Posted - 2014.02.09 15:07:00 - [58] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I wouldn't buy a booster if what I spend it on is just going to drastically change on a whim. That's just being a stupid consumer. Usually it is not on a whim and there is plenty of time before the change to do any saving needed. How does saving SP alleviate SP wasted by CCP? Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1209	Posted - 2014.02.09 20:24:00 - [59] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: If there isn't a dropsuit related skill refund, I just won't play for a 4-5 months and get passive. I didn't grind to my first Protosuit just so I would have to do it again a year later. Ain't happ'nin'. what worries me are player counts below 2000 since then its 2 versus 10 in a lot of matches. if a respec helps with player counts then yeah. but then even at 23 million sp my fav fits are militia scout, heavy or logi with militia ar , shotgun or smg or sniper since those create a challenge to get kills with. Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1209	Posted - 2014.02.09 20:29:00 - [60] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Quote: When vets say "Respec or I leave" ...real vets reply "can I have your ISK?" I have 997 million ISK so why ask for more? real vets just ask about some changes to get balance and if not then another game gets very increased playing time. hey you getting The Division? Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Bleeding Knight Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 107	Posted - 2014.02.09 21:17:00 - [61] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Scar Scrilla wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Scar Scrilla wrote: Stop QQ and go grind like everbody else. If you don't like it just leave- no one will care or miss you. once PS4 December hits no one will care or miss PS3 CCP FANBOYS .....lol. Haha, you mad? Ged gudd and shut the **** up scrub your kdr 1.30......lol! 12,900 kills total lol. hey FANBOY how does getting better at Dust help with player counts ?? if you have nothing worthwhile to say then why post?? Good point, though there is irony in your post.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6813	Posted - 2014.02.09 21:21:00 - [62] - Quote All I would like to think is that I will not be penalised by the Devs, for choosing the play this game in the only way I could, because core content features were not implemented during commercial release. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10654	Posted - 2014.02.09 21:36:00 - [63] - Quote True Adamance wrote: All I would like to think is that I will not be penalised by the Devs, for choosing the play this game in the only way I could, because core content features were not implemented during commercial release. This game has such horrific public appeal, even amongst it's most hardcore players, CCP would be straight up insane to poke the sleeping bear right now. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1229	Posted - 2014.02.09 21:52:00 - [64] - Quote I say: good riddance. if you're not going to be playing this game in 2 years you're totally useless.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4436	Posted - 2014.02.09 21:55:00 - [65] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Quote: When vets say "Respec or I leave" ...real vets reply "can I have your ISK?" I have 997 million ISK so why ask for more? real vets just ask about some changes to get balance and if not then another game gets very increased playing time. hey you getting The Division? I have more ISK than I currently know what to do with. That doesn't mean more ISK won't be useful for future plans. Also, just because we aren't serious in our requests, doesn't mean we don't often ask for ISK when someone leaves. I'll consider getting The Division when Ubisoft Support consider providing support for their products. I don't expect that to happen before the sequel (or after the sequel, for that matter).
CaoticFox Axis of Chaos 170	Posted - 2014.02.09 22:06:00 - [66] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. s. Im sorry, but you are wrong. a Merc can never have enough SP. Im at 25mill and i dont have -+ of the stuff i want.... just noticed you are nearly a PROTO Forum Warrior... lol... Im on the FORUMS because im P!$$ED off @ the game. as of 1920 CST USA 02-03-14 i have... 53,765,260 SP
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 291	Posted - 2014.02.09 22:11:00 - [67] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Quote: When vets say "Respec or I leave" ...real vets reply "can I have your ISK?" I have 997 million ISK so why ask for more? real vets just ask about some changes to get balance and if not then another game gets very increased playing time. hey you getting The Division? You should send me a few mil then How did you get that isk 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1120	Posted - 2014.02.09 22:20:00 - [68] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. If you've been here from the start you'd know things would change, and that's the risk we all take skilling up. At least we've had a couple of months notice, plenty of time to save the SP to spec into something new. If having new suits added without a complete skill refund is a terrible enough offense on you to make you leave maybe they should just stop making new content all together, because this kind of stuff won't stop happening as long as they give us more FREE stuff to play with. I'm not saying they won't give a respec, but it's a bad idea to ASSUME they will or that they have to. It will only make you more disappointed if they don't, and you'll be less prepared for changes. you are missing the point. balance changes are all fine, the scrubs can die in a fire. mechanic and gameplay changes every month are not in a game where decisions where meant to matter. the truth is, decision do not matter here at all. people are investing time and money for boosters to get into certain suits & playstyles and in 1.8 it might not be viable anymore or maybe will not exist anyore (best example, fast hacking nimble minmatar logi). this has not happened the first time thus those "vets" as you call them are tired of grinding & throwing more money at the game because of the DEVs mistakes. additionally there is nothing keeping people playing long term. PC is a lagfest, pub matches are meaningless and FW is also just another boring grind. in short: if CCP wants to earn money they should try to keep players in the game in the first place.
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. 3104	Posted - 2014.02.09 22:28:00 - [69] - Quote If CCP needs money why don't they earn it? If it's free to play I ain't putting a cent in this Rifle Changes: DPS, range, and damage
Espeon Bons Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 58	Posted - 2014.02.19 09:02:00 - [70] - Quote Slim Winning wrote: The more SP you gain, the higher up the ranks you ascend. Once you break 10m, you're a force to not be taken lightly in pub matches. Then you start playing against high profile players, you start to get into PC matches here-and-there. Your 10m SP ain't jack doodle against those guys. You final break 20m you have a character that's molded to your perfection. You're core strengths are accentuated. You're a guy that gets called in as a ringer with confidence. Then, you move into a PC corp and play 5-10 PCs a day(before the locks) and you realize that your 20m SP ain't jack doodle against those guys. There are always 3-tiers of players 3. Casual 2. Do-gooders 1. The top elite that won't settle for anything but 1st place against any & all comers. Better example 3. Slim Winning (me), etc. 2. Mr. Machine Guns, etc. 3. Espeon, etc. Yay im casual
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 709	Posted - 2014.02.19 09:21:00 - [71] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: All I can think is that a vet with a respec has less use for boosters, and CCP needs to make money. s. Im sorry, but you are wrong. a Merc can never have enough SP. Im at 25mill and i dont have -+ of the stuff i want.... Same. I have 25m SP and I really don't have most the things I now want.

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