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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
1117
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:16:00 -
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the sky is falling!
now seriously, this will only be on a minmatar suit and all minmatar suits have ~15% less EHP for ~7% speed advantage. those 7% speed advantage is marginal at best and a speed mod on any other suit evens it out but they will still have in total more EHP than the minmatar suit. |
Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
73
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:20:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Mad Syringe wrote:
As it is right now, the only positive is the CR bonus, since that weapon desperately needed a clip buff!
Desperately needed a clip buff? That's the only thing standing between the CR and world domination. 
Well, since damage seems to get nerfed for all rifles, it won't be as bad would it?
Also on that note, can we rename the combat rifle to projectile rifle since all rifles should mimick their ammo/function in their name...?
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Tolen Rosas
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
347
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:27:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Well, that's not the only thing the Mass Driver is getting in 1.8
Increased base direct/splash damage from 242/116 to 300/145
This is good. *sniper rifle user sits in the corner tapping foot impatiently*.....any word on hit detection, distance rendering, scope variety and headshot bonus for us?
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KA24DERT
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
480
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:27:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Well, that's not the only thing the Mass Driver is getting in 1.8
Increased base direct/splash damage from 242/116 to 300/145
...This is a race to the bottom for the TTK issue.
The Mass Driver doesn't need a buff, the Rifles need a nerf! |
Deadly Goliath
Stardust Incorporation
IMMORTAL REGIME
43
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:30:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Well, that's not the only thing the Mass Driver is getting in 1.8
Increased base direct/splash damage from 242/116 to 300/145
Can you tell the damage increase for advanced and prototype as well, please?
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
2151
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:33:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Well, that's not the only thing the Mass Driver is getting in 1.8
Increased base direct/splash damage from 242/116 to 300/145 what about the flaylock sir?
it SHOULD get less damage larger splash, it's a side arm it doesn't have to kill but it needs to hit people :/ |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
6258
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:34:00 -
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So..
Mass Driver buff.
Rifles nerf.
This ain't gonna be pretty.
/me prepares "Stop aim flinch from being hit from mass driver" threadnaughts
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
872
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:36:00 -
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so CCP nerfs the mass driver because of its splash dmg etc etc and the decides to re-buff it again? why nerf it in the first place if they were going to un-nerf it again?
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Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
688
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:37:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:So..
Mass Driver buff.
Rifles nerf.
This ain't gonna be pretty.
/me prepares "Stop aim flinch from being hit from mass driver" threadnaughts
Rifles still have AA. They will be ignored. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
3365
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:39:00 -
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Chibi Andy wrote:so CCP nerfs the mass driver because of its splash dmg etc etc and the decides to re-buff it again? why nerf it in the first place if they were going to un-nerf it again?
Maybe they realized balancing off of forum tears is a bad way to do things.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
6261
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:42:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Cat Merc wrote:So..
Mass Driver buff.
Rifles nerf.
This ain't gonna be pretty.
/me prepares "Stop aim flinch from being hit from mass driver" threadnaughts Rifles still have AA. They will be ignored.
Actually, MD flinch effect moves your crosshair enough to disable aim assist.
It isn't nearly as powerful as the forums say it is.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
521
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:47:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Well, that's not the only thing the Mass Driver is getting in 1.8
Increased base direct/splash damage from 242/116 to 300/145
Any news on the plasma cannon?
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
688
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Posted - 2014.02.08 21:51:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Cat Merc wrote:So..
Mass Driver buff.
Rifles nerf.
This ain't gonna be pretty.
/me prepares "Stop aim flinch from being hit from mass driver" threadnaughts Rifles still have AA. They will be ignored. Actually, MD flinch effect moves your crosshair enough to disable aim assist. It isn't nearly as powerful as the forums say it is.
AA isn't being disabled by the MD rounds, and MD DPS isn't enough for this to matter. Rifles will still melt before you get the clip off, even after because of low DPS compared to stacked proto suits.
In 1.8, one suit class will be virtually unaffected by the weapon, multiple others will have an advantage against the MD even with this damage buff. Honestly this buff is long overdue, otherwise there would be no reason to use the weapon in 1.8. |
MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle
270
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Posted - 2014.02.08 22:01:00 -
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While the mass driver clip size bonus is nice I'm really concerned about overall ammunition capacity for the mass driver, because if you've got 11 shots in clip and 18 total ammo... Well you're going to have some issues. Will the minmatar clip size bonuses also increase total ammo carried appropriately? |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
524
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Posted - 2014.02.08 22:03:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:the sky is falling!
now seriously, this will only be on a minmatar suit and all minmatar suits have ~15% less EHP for ~7% speed advantage. those 7% speed advantage is marginal at best and a speed mod on any other suit evens it out but they will still have in total more EHP than the minmatar suit.
Speed mods are insanely harder to fit then armor plates.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
2153
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Posted - 2014.02.08 22:10:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Cat Merc wrote:So..
Mass Driver buff.
Rifles nerf.
This ain't gonna be pretty.
/me prepares "Stop aim flinch from being hit from mass driver" threadnaughts Rifles still have AA. They will be ignored. Actually, MD flinch effect moves your crosshair enough to disable aim assist. It isn't nearly as powerful as the forums say it is.
That's becuase it was cut in half about a month after it was introduce, it's been toned down. |
Magnus Amadeuss
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
430
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Posted - 2014.02.08 22:22:00 -
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I think everyone should be concerned with running out of ammo rather than rejoicing over larger clip sizes.
Like for instance the mass driver, I have always found 6 rounds in a clip to be a decent amount, but 18 rounds total is just pitiful and makes nanohives a necessity. Even 23 with ammo capacity skill maxed out isn't a ton. but adding 5 more on top of that gets is to 28, which is a pretty respectable number.
Of course, CCP does change it to ammo capacity, they should change the bonus to percentage based. 25% of 23 is still 5 rounds (for the vanilla mass driver) but 25% of 32 (the assault mass driver) is an additional 8 rounds of ammo, bringing it to 40 rounds carried.
Same deal with the flaylock, it will make it so you have at least a decent amount on hand between nano hives, but I think 8 rounds per clip of flaylock might be pushing it.
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Chief-Shotty
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
113
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Posted - 2014.02.08 22:26:00 -
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I would like to know what the base stats are for the Breach mass driver?
The BMD is what i would like to call the minmatar's AV weapon and with the ciip and direct damage buff i could see it taking out lav, tanks, and low flying dropships. However the base damage has to be in the 400-500 base direct (not splash) and given the range, travel time, arc etc.
Please respond and thanks.
We are also gonna need higher base ammo pool or boost MD capacity skill to 2-3 rounds per level
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Trust in the Rust!
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Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
1007
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Posted - 2014.02.08 22:31:00 -
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I still think it would be better to increase the range with decreased damage. This game is very impractical when it comes to splash radius.
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Onesimus Tarsus
1122
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Posted - 2014.02.08 22:34:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Well, that's not the only thing the Mass Driver is getting in 1.8
Increased base direct/splash damage from 242/116 to 300/145
Oooo, racing stripes?
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
74
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Posted - 2014.02.08 22:36:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:I still think it would be better to increase the range with decreased damage. This game is very impractical when it comes to splash radius.
absolutely not!
MD should not be easy hit mode. The splash area is big enough on all MDs period. If you can't hit the broadside of a barn with it I suggest you learn how to aim! |
Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
695
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Posted - 2014.02.08 23:06:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:
Also on that note, can we rename the combat rifle to projectile rifle since all rifles should mimick their ammo/function in their name...?
Why not call it the Bullet Hose?
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Corbina Ninja
Maphia Clan Corporation
605
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Posted - 2014.02.08 23:09:00 -
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Swarm Launcher (explosive) is affected by minmatar bonus?
8 round swarm launcher will be awesome!!!
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
74
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Posted - 2014.02.08 23:10:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Mad Syringe wrote:
Also on that note, can we rename the combat rifle to projectile rifle since all rifles should mimick their ammo/function in their name...?
Why not call it the Bullet Hose?
Nah, that's already the nickname of the HMG... lol |
MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle
270
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Posted - 2014.02.08 23:12:00 -
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Corbina Ninja wrote:Swarm Launcher (explosive) is affected by minmatar bonus?
8 round swarm launcher will be awesome!!!
No, swarm is caldari. Plasma cannon is amarr. So combat rifle, smg, mass driver, flaylock and precision rifle (whenever that's out) |
Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
489
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Posted - 2014.02.08 23:14:00 -
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Tolen Rosas wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Well, that's not the only thing the Mass Driver is getting in 1.8
Increased base direct/splash damage from 242/116 to 300/145 This is good. *sniper rifle user sits in the corner tapping foot impatiently*.....any word on hit detection, distance rendering, scope variety and headshot bonus for us?
nope. They just made the sniper role fore people who can't fight.
Who wants some?
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Cyrius Li-Moody
3392
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Posted - 2014.02.08 23:15:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Corbina Ninja wrote:Swarm Launcher (explosive) is affected by minmatar bonus?
8 round swarm launcher will be awesome!!! No, swarm is caldari. Plasma cannon is amarr. So combat rifle, smg, mass driver, flaylock and precision rifle (whenever that's out)
Plasma cannon is gallente.
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
4491
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Posted - 2014.02.08 23:21:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:11 shots in the clip? Awesome as hell!
That will be super good. A really nice bonus for the mass driver.
I am sorry, where did you get this info?
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1858
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Posted - 2014.02.08 23:31:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:11 shots in the clip? Awesome as hell!
That will be super good. A really nice bonus for the mass driver. I am sorry, where did you get this info?
One of the Devs said that the Minmatar assault bonus will be 5% projectile ammo per level and +1 shot to explosive weapons.
Armor and Shields are not the same!
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
4496
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Posted - 2014.02.08 23:33:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:11 shots in the clip? Awesome as hell!
That will be super good. A really nice bonus for the mass driver. I am sorry, where did you get this info? One of the Devs said that the Minmatar assault bonus will be 5% projectile ammo per level and +1 shot to explosive weapons.
Yeah.But He also said that AMarr Assault will keep its 25% Heat sink.
Right?
So everything is Good with the world.
F*- scouts
F/* heavies.
King Checkmate Proto Amarr Assault is coming.........
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