The repair tool is suppose to be used to heal people, not provide minimal immunity.

The repair tool is suppose to be used to heal people, not provide minimal immunity.

It's not about keeping the heavy functionally immune to weapons fire, because that'd be unbalanced, right? If I shoot at the heavy, who already has double my ehp if I'm not sitting in a fat suit too, and he takes zero hp loss because you're sitting behind him and repping him back to full health quicker than I can hurt him, that is going to cause serious game balance issues very quickly.

The strength in the repair tool surely lies in its ability to take a very nearly dead heavy back to full health in those few moments between intense firefights that would force other suits without your support to back off and rep up with much less efficient modules?

I'm not arguing against your math, it seems pretty spot on, just how your applying it to the logi role.

So the minmatar bonus is completely useless, isnt it? What is the difference between healing Someone at 90 and at 110 when you are near him and completely safe?

The repair tool isn't like the medgun in Team Fortress 2.

The idea is that you can heal players outside of battle, or use cover to your advantage to keep someone alive while they're fighting.

Also, who ever takes ALL of the bulets from a weapon? Unless you're being a noob and standing perfectly still, the dispersion, movement, and player aim all is taken into account. People never estimate any sort of "error" margins into their math and I hate it.

Just because my core focused can't heal faster than a weapon can "potentially" do damage, doesn't mean they can't still go 60/2 (i.e. hardly dying) with me getting over 5k wp.

The minmatar bonus actually makes std and adv repair tools really good, and proto even better (besides core focused nerf). As I am the player that once score over 7000 wp in a single match with a repair tool, I can say that the repair tools are FINE, and that the nerfs are understandable.

You can be right but I m asking myself: why should I use a Repair tool instead of My weapon in a firefight. I guess your answer is "you shouldnt" so to be an effettive logi I better stack dmg modes and fire.
Slayer logi > LogiBro, is this fine?

Even if You are a minlogi with the new bonus. It is absolutely UP.
I dont want to be able to keep everyone alive against an entire team but I d Like to be atleast useful.
If You ask yourself: should I Repair him or shoot I use My rifle and shoot? You should always shoot!

Math:
AR Duvolle dps with V prof: 537.
With 1 dmg mode: 591
Armour repaired by a core focused Repair tool (the one that Repair more) : 125, if You are a mk0 logi= 156
So you are giving up to 537 dmg per second (or 591) to heal only 156 per second.
And this is only the start: if You decide to Repair you re not only giving up the damage: you cant defend yourself, you have to be Really near to your mate (11 m) you need to have a Line of sight, you are using 45 cpu and 7 pg (already modified by the logi bonus) that You could use better.

So why should I use a Repair tool instead of leaving that slot empty and increase My possibilities to Kill (with more dmg or more hp)

Even in The Best possible fight it isnt Worth it:
Ex: me minmatar logi repairing an Amarr sentinel (I know this isnt going to happen :)). Someone start shooting to the heavy with a combat assault rifle.
This is the Best fight for the repairer because the Amarr has a resistance against the combat.
So the combat has a dps of: 533(with prof V) 586 with just one dmg mode. - 15 % of heavy resistance it is: 498 dmg per second.
I m repairing him with a focused Repair tool at a rate of 156 hp/s.
So the heavy is receiving 342 dmg per second. I can guess he will die in 3/4 seconds.
I know that 4 seconds are a lot of time is a FPS but remember that this is the Best fight we can Face. This is the moment in wich the repairer does its best.

And I havent Even thought about 2 or more people shooting to us, in this case the repairer is Even more useless.

You should Really buff the Repair tool or none is going to use it except to farm WP.
P S I m italian, I m Sorry for My bad English.

Have you accounted for approximately 55% accuracy.
By the time you account for poor aim, dispersion, etc, you usally get 55% accuracy, (from my experience)

Even with 55% of accuracy you d better be shooting unless you And Your mate can go in and out covers at your wish

So if You all think it should only be used out of fight the new minlogi bonus is almost useless. The difference between 88 and 110 hp/s if You are out of fight is useless and also the range.

You are right, I also did some math considering the fact that none hit every shot but I didnt wanted to write too much.
So the fact is: none thing you should use it between a battle, you should only use it after a battle to let ur mates be ready for the Next one. So in the battle it is stupid to use it instead of your weapon.
In My opinion you should be awarded with more efficiency for this effort you r doing to play with your mates and doing team play.

The problem here is the fact that extra gunfire isn't always the be all end all solution to every single situation on the battlefield. I'll provide you a few examples.

In scenario one, you are a logistics with a repair tool and an assault rifle, teaming up with a heavy using an HMG. You suddenly end up fighting against four enemies with your heavy teammate. You whip out your assault rifle and begin shooting at the enemies with your heavy teammate. Despite your best attempts, you get overwhelmed and you die, leaving your heavy buddy without support, who dies soon after you.

Scenario two is quite similar, but instead of whipping out your assault rifle, you whip out your repair tool and begin repairing the heavy while he starts ripping away at the enemies. You dodge the gunfire the best you can, while your heavy keeps eliminating the enemies one by one while you were keeping his armor topped up. You both live through the scenario, you restock both your ammunition with nanohives and you live to fight another battle.

As others have said already, the repair tool bonus allows you to repair people faster and from farther ranges, letting them get back to battle much faster which would be a crucial factor in winning or losing a game. It is also useful for keeping people alive while in a firefight, but not to the extent where they are immune to gunfire completely.

The repair tool is suppose to be used to heal people, not provide minimal immunity.

The logistics class in eve actually tanks a lot of repair points to a friendly target. Like the op says, it will take your dps out of the fight so it has to somewhat compensate. All this does is promote a slayer logi. Why actively repair when you can just shoot and patch up after an engagement.

The real question is - Is this "DUST 514 set in the EVE universe" or not?

Remote repair in eve is a huge thing. It is its own legitimate class. I will be honest, I would give up my main weapons and only have a side arm, or even have no weapons at all, if it meant I got to really be an effective healer / logistics like we have in eve. Weapon-less 99% of the time but a powerful force multiplier.