DUST Search - So Gallente Assaults are getting the worst bonus...

ANON Cerberus wrote:

Cody Sietz wrote:

CCP Saberwing was kind enough to give us the info on what may be the new assault bonuses.

Assault [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of light/sidearm weapons]
- Caldari Assault: +5% to reload speed of hybrid railgun light/sidearm weapons per level.
- Gallente Assault: 5% reduction to hybrid - blaster light/sidearm hip-fire dispersion and kick per level.
- Minmatar Assault: +5% to projectile light/sidearm and +1 to Minmatar explosive weaponry clip size per level.
- Amarr Assault: 5% reduction to laser weaponry heat build-up per level.

Gallente get a pretty terrible bonus as you can see.

Caldari get a crazy fast reload.

Minmatar get a pretty amazing bonus.

And Amarr get to keep their bonus.

Dude - The Caldari are getting screwed. The reload bonus is going into the commando terrtory and to be honest is NOT that helpful.

Compared to extra clip size like the Minmatar get - or the heat bonus for Amarr which actively helps damage output. Even the Gallente kick and dispersion bonus - while it might not even be that noticeable at least it gives you a bonus while you are firing the weapon.

All of the skills give a bonus to each race as they fire a weapon - except the Caldari. Getting screwed over again.

Amarr - Generate less heat as you fire - more rounds able to be spammed.
Gallente - Underwhelming compared to the Amarr and Minny bonuses but at least it is reduced kick and dispersion.
Caldari - Reload speed, really not that useful I think but not only that - THIS IS A COMMANDO BONUS, why stray there?
Minmatar - extra clip size for all sorts of weapons that will REALLY benefit from it.

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Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2172	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:06:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Saberwing was kind enough to give us the info on what may be the new assault bonuses. Assault [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of light/sidearm weapons] - Caldari Assault: +5% to reload speed of hybrid railgun light/sidearm weapons per level. - Gallente Assault: 5% reduction to hybrid - blaster light/sidearm hip-fire dispersion and kick per level. - Minmatar Assault: +5% to projectile light/sidearm and +1 to Minmatar explosive weaponry clip size per level. - Amarr Assault: 5% reduction to laser weaponry heat build-up per level. Gallente get a pretty terrible bonus as you can see. Caldari get a crazy fast reload. Minmatar get a pretty amazing bonus. And Amarr get to keep their bonus. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution 1865	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:13:00 - [2] - Quote No no that Caldari one is pretty bad New born sAMARRi
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2172	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:17:00 - [3] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: No no that Caldari one is pretty bad What's wrong with it? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 712	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:19:00 - [4] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: No no that Caldari one is pretty bad What's wrong with it? Useless for a ranged weapon. Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2320	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:20:00 - [5] - Quote Ridiculous. 2 years into this and they're still just as lost as ever. Some of the ** they've been putting out lately really shows just how much they refuse to listen to anyone that makes any *** sense. Why ***** bother anymore? You can't fix stupid. Dust514 has a place in this world - buried next to 23,000 copies of E.T. in some remote desert location.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2172	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:21:00 - [6] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: No no that Caldari one is pretty bad What's wrong with it? Useless for a ranged weapon. As in the sniper rifle? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
HYENAKILLER X KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising 558	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:22:00 - [7] - Quote Appearantly we gallente are more concerned with freedoms than assault suit bonuses. Sigh. You are welcome for my leadership. Proven Aggressive Type I have spoken.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 462	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:23:00 - [8] - Quote The Rail Rifle reloads in 3.2 seconds. For spending ~2.6 million SP, you can tune that down to 2.4. If I fighting someone up close, it isn't the reload that kills me. I can just weapon swap to something else and take them out no problem. Caldari get a very boring and non-useful bonus.
Philipp Achtel Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 90	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:24:00 - [9] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: No no that Caldari one is pretty bad What's wrong with it? Useless for a ranged weapon. It makes a ranged weapon better in cqc, making up for one of its weaknesses. Isn't this a good thing?
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 632	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:24:00 - [10] - Quote Gallente come out ok, more accuracy on the AR will obviously improve it Caldari are getting a hard time though Amarr and Matari are ridiculously OP .... worst decision so far from CCP someone told me last week the ScR bonus was being removed... I jumped for joy as the ScR is way too good.... today that joy has died Minmatar Demolitions Specialist Plasma Cannon Pro

Philipp Achtel Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 90	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:26:00 - [11] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: The Rail Rifle reloads in 3.2 seconds. For spending ~2.6 million SP, you can tune that down to 2.4. If I fighting someone up close, it isn't the reload that kills me. I can just weapon swap to something else and take them out no problem. Caldari get a very boring and non-useful bonus. Give me a break. 2.6m so gets you proto suits, a CPU and pg reduction and the reload bonus. If you don't think it's worth it, the answer is to put your points elsewhere.
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 712	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:26:00 - [12] - Quote Philipp Achtel wrote: RuckingFetard wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: No no that Caldari one is pretty bad What's wrong with it? Useless for a ranged weapon. It makes a ranged weapon better in cqc, making up for one of its weaknesses. Isn't this a good thing? Instead of covering a weakness, how about facilitating the Caldari play style? Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 898	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:27:00 - [13] - Quote Philipp Achtel wrote: RuckingFetard wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: No no that Caldari one is pretty bad What's wrong with it? Useless for a ranged weapon. It makes a ranged weapon better in cqc, making up for one of its weaknesses. Isn't this a good thing? It's already borderline best in CQC. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Philipp Achtel Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 90	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:28:00 - [14] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Philipp Achtel wrote: RuckingFetard wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: No no that Caldari one is pretty bad What's wrong with it? Useless for a ranged weapon. It makes a ranged weapon better in cqc, making up for one of its weaknesses. Isn't this a good thing? Instead of covering a weakness, how about facilitating the Caldari play style? So you agree its useful, but it's just not useful in the way you want. Okay, then don't purchase the skill.
Philipp Achtel Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 90	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:29:00 - [15] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Philipp Achtel wrote: It makes a ranged weapon better in cqc, making up for one of its weaknesses. Isn't this a good thing? It's already borderline best in CQC. Okay, then it's a pretty good bonus, yeah?
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2174	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:30:00 - [16] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Gallente come out ok, more accuracy on the AR will obviously improve it Caldari are getting a hard time though Amarr and Matari are ridiculously OP .... worst decision so far from CCP someone told me last week the ScR bonus was being removed... I jumped for joy as the ScR is way too good.... today that joy has died Hipfiring bonus is pretty useless. But yeah, Minny and Amarr bonus are best bonus. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2085	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:30:00 - [17] - Quote 1. Please provide a link with facts. 2. What! Who the ** asked for this *. Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset* I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 325	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:32:00 - [18] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: CCP Saberwing was kind enough to give us the info on what may be the new assault bonuses. Assault [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of light/sidearm weapons] - Caldari Assault: +5% to reload speed of hybrid railgun light/sidearm weapons per level. - Gallente Assault: 5% reduction to hybrid - blaster light/sidearm hip-fire dispersion and kick per level. - Minmatar Assault: +5% to projectile light/sidearm and +1 to Minmatar explosive weaponry clip size per level. - Amarr Assault: 5% reduction to laser weaponry heat build-up per level. Gallente get a pretty terrible bonus as you can see. Caldari get a crazy fast reload. Minmatar get a pretty amazing bonus. And Amarr get to keep their bonus. Dude - The Caldari are getting screwed. The reload bonus is going into the commando terrtory and to be honest is NOT that helpful. Compared to extra clip size like the Minmatar get - or the heat bonus for Amarr which actively helps damage output. Even the Gallente kick and dispersion bonus - while it might not even be that noticeable at least it gives you a bonus while you are firing the weapon. All of the skills give a bonus to each race as they fire a weapon - except the Caldari. Getting screwed over again. Amarr - Generate less heat as you fire - more rounds able to be spammed. Gallente - Underwhelming compared to the Amarr and Minny bonuses but at least it is reduced kick and dispersion. Caldari - Reload speed, really not that useful I think but not only that - THIS IS A COMMANDO BONUS, why stray there? Minmatar - extra clip size for all sorts of weapons that will REALLY benefit from it.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2174	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:32:00 - [19] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: 1. Please provide a link with facts. 2. What! Who the ** asked for this *. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1813024#post1813024 sorry ill edit the OP "I do agree with you there though. shudders*" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 395	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:35:00 - [20] - Quote I always thought that increasing accuracy would be a good thing, apparently I was horribly wrong... I will show you fear in a handful of dust. 1.7 best match (HMG): 40/9/9 (K/A/D)

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 4496	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:35:00 - [21] - Quote CCP looking over the Gallente assault as usual.
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution 1867	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:35:00 - [22] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: TheD1CK wrote: Gallente come out ok, more accuracy on the AR will obviously improve it Caldari are getting a hard time though Amarr and Matari are ridiculously OP .... worst decision so far from CCP someone told me last week the ScR bonus was being removed... I jumped for joy as the ScR is way too good.... today that joy has died Hipfiring bonus is pretty useless. But yeah, Minny and Amarr bonus are best bonus. wish it was like that for the amarr scout New born sAMARRi
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2174	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:37:00 - [23] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: CCP Saberwing was kind enough to give us the info on what may be the new assault bonuses. Assault [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of light/sidearm weapons] - Caldari Assault: +5% to reload speed of hybrid railgun light/sidearm weapons per level. - Gallente Assault: 5% reduction to hybrid - blaster light/sidearm hip-fire dispersion and kick per level. - Minmatar Assault: +5% to projectile light/sidearm and +1 to Minmatar explosive weaponry clip size per level. - Amarr Assault: 5% reduction to laser weaponry heat build-up per level. Gallente get a pretty terrible bonus as you can see. Caldari get a crazy fast reload. Minmatar get a pretty amazing bonus. And Amarr get to keep their bonus. Dude - The Caldari are getting screwed. The reload bonus is going into the commando terrtory and to be honest is NOT that helpful. Compared to extra clip size like the Minmatar get - or the heat bonus for Amarr which actively helps damage output. Even the Gallente kick and dispersion bonus - while it might not even be that noticeable at least it gives you a bonus while you are firing the weapon. All of the skills give a bonus to each race as they fire a weapon - except the Caldari. Getting screwed over again. Amarr - Generate less heat as you fire - more rounds able to be spammed. Gallente - Underwhelming compared to the Amarr and Minny bonuses but at least it is reduced kick and dispersion. Caldari - Reload speed, really not that useful I think but not only that - THIS IS A COMMANDO BONUS, why stray there? Minmatar - extra clip size for all sorts of weapons that will REALLY benefit from it. Come on, the AR doesn't have that much kick anyway with max skills anyway. And your telling me that if you are Assaulting and have more then one target to attack, that a quicker reload speed won't help you? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2175	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:39:00 - [24] - Quote Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: I always thought that increasing accuracy would be a good thing, apparently I was horribly wrong... Not for CQC weapons. Just look at the HMG, they fixed it by making it have less accuracy. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 896	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:41:00 - [25] - Quote Hmm, well, less kick from the AR can only be a good thing, so sure, I'll bite. Caldari have weapons that take the most reload time so it'll help somewhat, too. At proto, with Max reload the Sniper will be awesome same with RR. It's like the Commando Bonus. The Matari get more ammo. Before they only had it for sidearms. Now they get it for all their respective weapons. Would've been cool if the CR wasn't so freaking OP. Besides that, it'll be cool. 8 clip Flaylock lol Amarr get to keep their bonus \o/ rejoice!
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 896	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:42:00 - [26] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: I always thought that increasing accuracy would be a good thing, apparently I was horribly wrong... Not for CQC weapons. Just look at the HMG, they fixed it by making it have less accuracy. They also increased the RoF elle decreasing damage by a bit, if I remember correctly.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2175	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:43:00 - [27] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Hmm, well, less kick from the AR can only be a good thing, so sure, I'll bite. Caldari have weapons that take the most reload time so it'll help somewhat, too. At proto, with Max reload the Sniper will be awesome same with RR. It's like the Commando Bonus. The Matari get more ammo. Before they only had it for sidearms. Now they get it for all their respective weapons. Would've been cool if the CR wasn't so freaking OP. Besides that, it'll be cool. 8 clip Flaylock lol Amarr get to keep their bonus \o/ rejoice! Don't forget 11 mag mass driver ;) "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 395	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:47:00 - [28] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: I always thought that increasing accuracy would be a good thing, apparently I was horribly wrong... Not for CQC weapons. Just look at the HMG, they fixed it by making it have less accuracy. Valid point with the HMG I will show you fear in a handful of dust. 1.7 best match (HMG): 40/9/9 (K/A/D)
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 892	Posted - 2014.02.08 16:51:00 - [29] - Quote the gallente assault bonus is perfect, it'll turn the ARs hipfire into a RRs hipfire, while also removing like any recoil for probably 10 or more so shots in full auto, but the hipfire will make the AR king CQCer. Minmatars will make flaylock & MD OP if it applies. Amarrs good, its a great bonus for ScR & LR Caldaris is complete & utter garbage, no debating it. 25% reload wouldn't even be good on any weapon let alone the RR and sniper. Reload speed is something that just NEVER matters. The only time it ever does is for the flaylock or plasma cannon, and SOMETIMES the mass driver, but the rail rifle and sniper rifle? Really? I mean does CCP literally just get stupider as time goes by? Its like they always gotta do a few things right but go full r3tard on something else. How to get likes: post QQ reply to every thread where a PC corps players post claiming they only win cus "FOTM"
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4020	Posted - 2014.02.08 17:00:00 - [30] - Quote This is actually REALLY GOOD. It will make the any weapon the Gallante have, the best CQC weapon. The Hipfire will be very tight on weapons like the AR, SMG, RR and Shotgun. No this is an amazing bonus. Don't touch it or mess with it. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior



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