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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1501
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Posted - 2014.02.08 00:38:00 -
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CCP the nerf bat has been swung around wildly for almost 12 months shattering tons of players and wasting millions upon millions of SP. Its clear that you have a kills per weapon chart that can be viewed on a monthly basis. As developers you want to know player trends and use this chart, among other things, to see how actually usage of weapons and equipment relates to your expected or desired thresholds. However, I feel that these stats provided to the community will help curtail many "myths" and complaints as they would be able to see what is actually happening and what you intended.
With the aforementioned in mind, I want to petition the community to request the following monthly charts on a monthly basis:
- kills per infantry weapon
- kills per dropsuit race and type
- kills per vehicle
- kills per turret type
- Average SP trend
- SP totals (between all players how much total SP is invested in one skill or another , in the millions of SP)
Each chart must include both your expected thresholds for said attributes and your desired threshold.
I believe if we, the community of dust514, has this information there will be:
1. fewer complaints
2. fewer miss understandings
3. better suggestions
sign, by +1.
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
730
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Posted - 2014.02.08 00:43:00 -
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+1
I've engaged the CPM directly on this with little result. Only addition to your list is range of kill per weapon in the reporting period...say, long , mid, and short range.
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
3509
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Posted - 2014.02.08 00:46:00 -
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Agreed, this would be helpful....like really helpful
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1504
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Posted - 2014.02.08 01:45:00 -
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need more support.
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
698
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Posted - 2014.02.08 01:47:00 -
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But when something new comes out, the kills will be inflated. Not saying I disagree, I'm just throwing that out there.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
3999
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Posted - 2014.02.08 01:48:00 -
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I think the community would simply misconstrued the data.
"The SMG has almost as many monthly kills as the Sniper Rifle! Nerf the SMG!"
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Yes, unfortunately sometimes the few ruin it for the whole.
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Debacle Nano
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
643
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Posted - 2014.02.08 01:49:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I think the community would simply misconstrued the data.
"The SMG has almost as many monthly kills as the Sniper Rifle! Nerf the SMG!"
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Yes, unfortunately sometimes the few ruin it for the whole.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1542
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Posted - 2014.02.08 01:51:00 -
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No, I want Isk Efficiency per weapon stats.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives
Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1507
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Posted - 2014.02.08 01:53:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:But when something new comes out, the kills will be inflated. Not saying I disagree, I'm just throwing that out there.
this is why the expected threasholds and desired thresholds of CCP will be listed there. so it would be obvious if something is doing what it wasn't intended to do.
Knowing CCP's intent will help greatly with balance.
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Stupid Blueberry
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
86
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Posted - 2014.02.08 01:55:00 -
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Signed. |
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1509
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Posted - 2014.02.08 01:59:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I think the community would simply misconstrued the data.
"The SMG has almost as many monthly kills as the Sniper Rifle! Nerf the SMG!"
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Yes, unfortunately sometimes the few ruin it for the whole.
since the expected and desired thresholds will be on the chart as well we will see what CCP really wanted the weapon to do, and see if it is performing how they wanted. for example.
chart shows: SMG has more kills than the sniper rifle.
however, the expected threshhold for SMGs is higher than the expected threshold for snipers. therefore, there is no problem.
-OR-
let's say that the chart shows that the SMG kills are keeping in line with the desired threshold for the SMG kills. However, the sniper kills have not reached their expected threshold. This would indicate that their is a problem with the sniper rifle. perhaps it needs a buff... then we look at the SP chart. we now see that their is 5x as much SP invested in SMGs than in snipers. indicating people aren't skilling into snipers.
end of example.
using these charts we can see trends and through analysis form our theories.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4001
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Posted - 2014.02.08 02:00:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:But when something new comes out, the kills will be inflated. Not saying I disagree, I'm just throwing that out there. this is why the expected threasholds and desired thresholds of CCP will be listed there. so it would be obvious if something is doing what it wasn't intended to do. Knowing CCP's intent will help greatly with balance.
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1509
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Posted - 2014.02.08 02:02:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:D legendary hero wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:But when something new comes out, the kills will be inflated. Not saying I disagree, I'm just throwing that out there. this is why the expected threasholds and desired thresholds of CCP will be listed there. so it would be obvious if something is doing what it wasn't intended to do. Knowing CCP's intent will help greatly with balance. You were my 4,000th like!
send me 1,000,000 ISK please!!!! 
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
732
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Posted - 2014.02.08 02:18:00 -
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I started the discussion with CPM on this specifically to get at two things:
Percentage of kills by weapon by month...to see if things were evening out amongst the 4 rifles or if really 80% of the players are using rail rifles as some would lead you to believe on the forums.
Range breakdown of kills by range...each weapon would show % kills in short! mid, and long range. My guess is you'll find the majority of the kills falling in ranges that are competitive for all weapons. I was also curious to see the numbers for the AR and RR - shortest and longest range respectively.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4002
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Posted - 2014.02.08 02:21:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:D legendary hero wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:But when something new comes out, the kills will be inflated. Not saying I disagree, I'm just throwing that out there. this is why the expected threasholds and desired thresholds of CCP will be listed there. so it would be obvious if something is doing what it wasn't intended to do. Knowing CCP's intent will help greatly with balance. You were my 4,000th like! send me 1,000,000 ISK please!!!!
I would, but I need all the ISK I can get... I've already lost ten million in a single day... Man I'm poor lol
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Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
2565
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Posted - 2014.02.08 02:35:00 -
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Great ideas but I don't like the SP tends and I'm confident it would hinder player growth.
Jihad Jeep Proficiency V
Red Line Sniper Proficiency III
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Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
2565
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Posted - 2014.02.08 02:44:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I think the community would simply misconstrued the data.
"The SMG has almost as many monthly kills as the Sniper Rifle! Nerf the SMG!"
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Yes, unfortunately sometimes the few ruin it for the whole. let's say that the chart shows that the SMG kills are keeping in line with the desired threshold for the SMG kills. However, the sniper kills have not reached their expected threshold. This would indicate that their is a problem with the sniper rifle. perhaps it needs a buff... then we look at the SP chart. we now see that their is 5x as much SP invested in SMGs than in snipers. indicating people aren't skilling into snipers. end of example. using these charts we can see trends and through analysis form our theories.
This is incredibly brilliant. You could create market demand anf tactical diversity by engineering FotM trends.
Not to mention open-source weapon balancing.
Jihad Jeep Proficiency V
Red Line Sniper Proficiency III
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zibathy numbertwo
Nox Aeterna Security
443
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Posted - 2014.02.08 03:41:00 -
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bump
AR
Dmg: 34,
RoF: 750 RPM,
DPS: 425,
RR
Dmg: 55,
RoF: 461 RPM,
DPS: 422,
+ double the range.
Balanced.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
2487
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Posted - 2014.02.08 03:44:00 -
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That be awesome.
Buying EVE CE codes for Dust ISK
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
4430
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Posted - 2014.02.08 03:44:00 -
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Signed
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 4
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1517
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Posted - 2014.02.08 05:10:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:D legendary hero wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:D legendary hero wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:But when something new comes out, the kills will be inflated. Not saying I disagree, I'm just throwing that out there. this is why the expected threasholds and desired thresholds of CCP will be listed there. so it would be obvious if something is doing what it wasn't intended to do. Knowing CCP's intent will help greatly with balance. You were my 4,000th like! send me 1,000,000 ISK please!!!! I would, but I need all the ISK I can get... I've already lost ten million in a single day... Man I'm poor lol
i guess ill send you a million then. its too bad players dnt get recepts for their purchases and transfers
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Cyrius Li-Moody
3340
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Posted - 2014.02.08 05:12:00 -
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I'm all for more stats of all kinds.
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1517
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Posted - 2014.02.08 05:13:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:I started the discussion with CPM on this specifically to get at two things:
Percentage of kills by weapon by month...to see if things were evening out amongst the 4 rifles or if really 80% of the players are using rail rifles as some would lead you to believe on the forums.
Range breakdown of kills by range...each weapon would show % kills in short! mid, and long range. My guess is you'll find the majority of the kills falling in ranges that are competitive for all weapons. I was also curious to see the numbers for the AR and RR - shortest and longest range respectively.
this could be helpful. The percentages could be calculated from the actual numbers in the charts i recommended. Having the ranges would be nice but troublesome for some weapons.
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Jackof All-Trades
The Black Renaissance
447
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Posted - 2014.02.08 07:11:00 -
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I want to top those plasma cannon kill boards
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
5669
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Posted - 2014.02.08 07:16:00 -
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If CCP were to release every stat we were curious about, we wouldn't be getting any new content (inb4lulz).
Also, this thread is now a petition to ban people from the forums that create petitions. Every post after this one will count as a signature for this petition, regardless if they consent to signing or not.
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Never forget
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Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
2567
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Posted - 2014.02.08 13:30:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:If CCP were to release every stat we were curious about, we wouldn't be getting any new content (inb4lulz).
Also, this thread is now a petition to ban people from the forums that create petitions. Every post after this one will count as a signature for this petition, regardless if they consent to signing or not. The content of the post will in no way allow the poster to opt out of signing this petition.
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CCP could just give us the API. I know we have more than a few competent individuals who would love to get this sort of website up and running.
D legendary, my advice is to repost this in the Technology Lab section of the forums. Your post really deserves more attention.
Jihad Jeep Proficiency V
Red Line Sniper Proficiency III
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4017
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Posted - 2014.02.08 16:35:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:
...its too bad players dnt get recepts for their purchases and transfers
You do actually.
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1525
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Posted - 2014.02.08 22:11:00 -
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bump
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1540
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:20:00 -
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sign +1
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PEW JACKSON
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
215
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:22:00 -
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Signed +1
Dead on the ground.... Think I made a wrong turn :/
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Cavani1EE7
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
1
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:32:00 -
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+1
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1575
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Posted - 2014.02.14 22:31:00 -
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bump
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4169
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Posted - 2014.02.14 22:39:00 -
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So many imbeciles will twist data like that. It's going to be nasty.
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1088
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Posted - 2014.02.14 22:57:00 -
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I don't really want it since I don't care much, but adding it after cite mechanics are improved would be nice. |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
1877
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Posted - 2014.02.14 23:02:00 -
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I would just like to have my own personal kill statistics by weapon listed in my Character Sheet.
It would b easier for some event tracking, and I'd like to see just how many people i have killed with things like the PLC, FL and NK.
KRRROOOOOOM
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Awry Barux
New Eden Blades Of The Azure
Zero-Day
566
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Posted - 2014.02.14 23:04:00 -
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Signed. Give us data! Delicious, delicious data. |
Altina McAlterson
Pure Innocence.
EoN.
856
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Posted - 2014.02.14 23:15:00 -
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I remember one of the DEVs looking at this info in the IRC one day long ago and answering questions about it. IIRC they said the least kills of any weapon was the officer scrambler pistol and the least kills by anything was the proto Flux Grenade.
My curious nature is very, very interested in stats like that. I'm all for this.
Good Advice
Grey 17 should have stayed missing.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
1660
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Posted - 2014.02.14 23:21:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:If CCP were to release every stat we were curious about, we wouldn't be getting any new content (inb4lulz).
Also, this thread is now a petition to ban people from the forums that create petitions. Every post after this one will count as a signature for this petition, regardless if they consent to signing or not. The content of the post will in no way allow the poster to opt out of signing this petition.
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Signed.
Also, good idea, OP.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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JP Acuna
Pendejitos
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
65
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Posted - 2014.02.14 23:25:00 -
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+1
weapon stats would even encourage the use of different weapons! I would even spec into the flaylock just to play with my stats if there were any. |
NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
188
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Posted - 2014.02.14 23:29:00 -
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I would like stats on what I killed with.. and what I was killed by ... all time, monthly and weekly.
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
Original ROF needs to return!
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1587
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Posted - 2014.02.16 20:46:00 -
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release the data CCP saberwing
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Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A
745
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Posted - 2014.02.16 20:51:00 -
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ISSO A+ì MEU AMIGO ! Queremos muito esses stats...
THAT'S IT BUDDY! We really want those stats
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1587
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Posted - 2014.02.16 20:56:00 -
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Necandi Brasil wrote:ISSO A+ì MEU AMIGO ! Queremos muito esses stats...
THAT'S IT BUDDY! We really want those stats
apoia a causa!
Support the cause!
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
601
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Posted - 2014.02.16 23:22:00 -
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I say remove all personal stats and have only team/corp stats,as we are all nothing more than disposable heroes.
Statwhoring just promote more individual play and lone wolfing. |
D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1605
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Posted - 2014.02.17 22:58:00 -
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give us stats
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
1756
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Posted - 2014.02.17 23:43:00 -
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Signed.
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Faunher
Ivory Vanguard
133
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Posted - 2014.02.17 23:48:00 -
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+1 for data! |
D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1633
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Posted - 2014.02.18 19:26:00 -
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stats ftw
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Marc Rime
258
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Posted - 2014.02.18 19:38:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I think the community would simply misconstrued the data.
Obviously, statistics can be bent to support any claim ;).
DeadlyAztec11 wrote:"The SMG has almost as many monthly kills as the Sniper Rifle! Nerf the SMG!"
Also true, but the community spews that stuff all the time anyway. All the time. I doubt we'd get more threads if they added stats, but the stats would be quoted in the threads we get in either case ;). |
D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1695
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Posted - 2014.02.22 03:58:00 -
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Marc Rime wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I think the community would simply misconstrued the data. Obviously, statistics can be bent to support any claim ;). DeadlyAztec11 wrote:"The SMG has almost as many monthly kills as the Sniper Rifle! Nerf the SMG!" Also true, but the community spews that stuff all the time anyway. All the time. I doubt we'd get more threads if they added stats, but the stats would be quoted in the threads we get in either case ;).
all the more reason for stats.
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bogeyman m
Learning Coalition College
121
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Posted - 2014.02.22 07:33:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I think the community would simply misconstrued the data.
"The SMG has almost as many monthly kills as the Sniper Rifle! Nerf the SMG!"
...
Yes, unfortunately sometimes the few ruin it for the whole. since the expected and desired thresholds will be on the chart as well we will see what CCP really wanted the weapon to do, and see if it is performing how they wanted. for example. chart shows: SMG has more kills than the sniper rifle. however, the expected threshhold for SMGs is higher than the expected threshold for snipers. therefore, there is no problem. -OR- let's say that the chart shows that the SMG kills are keeping in line with the desired threshold for the SMG kills. However, the sniper kills have not reached their expected threshold. This would indicate that their is a problem with the sniper rifle. perhaps it needs a buff... then we look at the SP chart. we now see that their is 5x as much SP invested in SMGs than in snipers. indicating people aren't skilling into snipers. end of example. using these charts we can see trends and through analysis form our theories.
... Could also group by weapon class (ie rifle vs sidearm) help clarify. |
bogeyman m
Learning Coalition College
121
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Posted - 2014.02.22 07:36:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:CCP the nerf bat has been swung around wildly for almost 12 months shattering tons of players and wasting millions upon millions of SP. Its clear that you have a kills per weapon chart that can be viewed on a monthly basis. As developers you want to know player trends and use this chart, among other things, to see how actually usage of weapons and equipment relates to your expected or desired thresholds. However, I feel that these stats provided to the community will help curtail many "myths" and complaints as they would be able to see what is actually happening and what you intended. With the aforementioned in mind, I want to petition the community to request the following monthly charts on a monthly basis:
- kills per infantry weapon
- kills per dropsuit race and type
- kills per vehicle
- kills per turret type
- Average SP trend
- SP totals (between all players how much total SP is invested in one skill or another , in the millions of SP)
Each chart must include both your expected thresholds for said attributes and your desired threshold.I believe if we, the community of dust514, has this information there will be: 1. fewer complaints 2. fewer miss understandings 3. better suggestions sign, by +1.
Would also like to see average skill level per weapon. (If most kills were from weapon X and weapon X also had the most players are Prof 5, then that would be telling as well.)
Also, signed.
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
3494
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Posted - 2014.02.22 07:49:00 -
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I generally like the idea of more published stats. Like any feedback/score, it increases player interest in the mechanics/scores. KDR-whoring is in part a byproduct of publication and ranking of KDR, for example.
I'm aware stats can be "misused" by the public to some degree, but I feel that's often a result of a lack of context. If they only published that 20% of kills were by Sniper Rifles and 20% were by Rail Rifles, then we might come away with the impression that the two were roughly equal. However, if we further discovered that 95% of the Sniper kills were with Proto Rifles at Proficiency 3 or higher, and the Rail Rifle kills were 70% at STD level... it paints a different picture of how the rifles were used.
CCP has a full range of stats at their disposal, and there's some limitations with being able to interpret a more limited data set on our end (inability to account for mediating/moderating variables). Any measure of central tendency rarely tells the whole story, and the Dust forum-goers love their pitchforks and tears.
I think "ideally" an SDE or API hook that could give us looks into a larger proportion of data would enable a better degree of analysis of in-game statistics with more sophisticated techniques (ANOVA, MANOVA, multiple regression, etc.in SPSS, SAS, etc.).
Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
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Subject 36
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
98
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Posted - 2014.02.22 07:52:00 -
[54] - Quote
+1
Minmatar Freedom Fighter
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1717
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:24:00 -
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+1
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7486
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:25:00 -
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This is a very damgerous request. Every month you would have Nerf/ QQ threads per weapon which earns top use...
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1719
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:31:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: This is a very damgerous request. Every month you would have Nerf/ QQ threads per weapon which earns top use...
CCPs expected and desired lines will be in the graph as well. so it would be pretty obvious if it were doing what it was supposed to.
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Asher Night
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
467
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:38:00 -
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I would like to see this, but honestly, CCP has difficulty wiping their own ass so I'm not sure how they are going to begin implementing this without starting at least a couple fires somewhere. |
NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:41:00 -
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only if we get time in use stats as well. Like Forge gun has been used for 40000 hours or something
or times spawned with said weapon per month
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
Original ROF needs to return!
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1750
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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:27:00 -
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stats
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Thanjac
Ruthless Chaos
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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:51:00 -
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This is a great idea, and if we could this at the end of match screen with who killed you and who you killed during that match I would be very happy
Proud Commando/ARC Instructor
"Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:49:00 -
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Thanjac wrote:This is a great idea, and if we could this at the end of match screen with who killed you and who you killed during that match I would be very happy
sounds good
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
1776
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Posted - 2014.03.04 17:43:00 -
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bp
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