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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.08 00:38:00 -
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CCP the nerf bat has been swung around wildly for almost 12 months shattering tons of players and wasting millions upon millions of SP. Its clear that you have a kills per weapon chart that can be viewed on a monthly basis. As developers you want to know player trends and use this chart, among other things, to see how actually usage of weapons and equipment relates to your expected or desired thresholds. However, I feel that these stats provided to the community will help curtail many "myths" and complaints as they would be able to see what is actually happening and what you intended.
With the aforementioned in mind, I want to petition the community to request the following monthly charts on a monthly basis:
- kills per infantry weapon
- kills per dropsuit race and type
- kills per vehicle
- kills per turret type
- Average SP trend
- SP totals (between all players how much total SP is invested in one skill or another , in the millions of SP)
Each chart must include both your expected thresholds for said attributes and your desired threshold.
I believe if we, the community of dust514, has this information there will be:
1. fewer complaints
2. fewer miss understandings
3. better suggestions
sign, by +1.
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.08 01:45:00 -
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need more support.
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.08 01:53:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:But when something new comes out, the kills will be inflated. Not saying I disagree, I'm just throwing that out there.
this is why the expected threasholds and desired thresholds of CCP will be listed there. so it would be obvious if something is doing what it wasn't intended to do.
Knowing CCP's intent will help greatly with balance.
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.08 01:59:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I think the community would simply misconstrued the data.
"The SMG has almost as many monthly kills as the Sniper Rifle! Nerf the SMG!"
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Yes, unfortunately sometimes the few ruin it for the whole.
since the expected and desired thresholds will be on the chart as well we will see what CCP really wanted the weapon to do, and see if it is performing how they wanted. for example.
chart shows: SMG has more kills than the sniper rifle.
however, the expected threshhold for SMGs is higher than the expected threshold for snipers. therefore, there is no problem.
-OR-
let's say that the chart shows that the SMG kills are keeping in line with the desired threshold for the SMG kills. However, the sniper kills have not reached their expected threshold. This would indicate that their is a problem with the sniper rifle. perhaps it needs a buff... then we look at the SP chart. we now see that their is 5x as much SP invested in SMGs than in snipers. indicating people aren't skilling into snipers.
end of example.
using these charts we can see trends and through analysis form our theories.
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.08 02:02:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:D legendary hero wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:But when something new comes out, the kills will be inflated. Not saying I disagree, I'm just throwing that out there. this is why the expected threasholds and desired thresholds of CCP will be listed there. so it would be obvious if something is doing what it wasn't intended to do. Knowing CCP's intent will help greatly with balance. You were my 4,000th like! 
send me 1,000,000 ISK please!!!! 
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.08 05:10:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:D legendary hero wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:D legendary hero wrote:Luna Angelo wrote:But when something new comes out, the kills will be inflated. Not saying I disagree, I'm just throwing that out there. this is why the expected threasholds and desired thresholds of CCP will be listed there. so it would be obvious if something is doing what it wasn't intended to do. Knowing CCP's intent will help greatly with balance. You were my 4,000th like! send me 1,000,000 ISK please!!!! I would, but I need all the ISK I can get... I've already lost ten million in a single day... Man I'm poor lol
i guess ill send you a million then. its too bad players dnt get recepts for their purchases and transfers
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.08 05:13:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:I started the discussion with CPM on this specifically to get at two things:
Percentage of kills by weapon by month...to see if things were evening out amongst the 4 rifles or if really 80% of the players are using rail rifles as some would lead you to believe on the forums.
Range breakdown of kills by range...each weapon would show % kills in short! mid, and long range. My guess is you'll find the majority of the kills falling in ranges that are competitive for all weapons. I was also curious to see the numbers for the AR and RR - shortest and longest range respectively.
this could be helpful. The percentages could be calculated from the actual numbers in the charts i recommended. Having the ranges would be nice but troublesome for some weapons.
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.08 22:11:00 -
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bump
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.10 21:20:00 -
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sign +1
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.14 22:31:00 -
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bump
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.16 20:46:00 -
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release the data CCP saberwing
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.16 20:56:00 -
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Necandi Brasil wrote:ISSO A+ì MEU AMIGO ! Queremos muito esses stats...
THAT'S IT BUDDY! We really want those stats
apoia a causa!
Support the cause!
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.17 22:58:00 -
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give us stats
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.18 19:26:00 -
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stats ftw
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.22 03:58:00 -
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Marc Rime wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I think the community would simply misconstrued the data. Obviously, statistics can be bent to support any claim ;). DeadlyAztec11 wrote:"The SMG has almost as many monthly kills as the Sniper Rifle! Nerf the SMG!" Also true, but the community spews that stuff all the time anyway. All the time. I doubt we'd get more threads if they added stats, but the stats would be quoted in the threads we get in either case ;).
all the more reason for stats.
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:24:00 -
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+1
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:31:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: This is a very damgerous request. Every month you would have Nerf/ QQ threads per weapon which earns top use...
CCPs expected and desired lines will be in the graph as well. so it would be pretty obvious if it were doing what it was supposed to.
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:27:00 -
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stats
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:49:00 -
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Thanjac wrote:This is a great idea, and if we could this at the end of match screen with who killed you and who you killed during that match I would be very happy
sounds good
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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.03.04 17:43:00 -
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bp
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