Shotguns are fine, in my personal opinion. No need to make it into a rapid fire weapon. It just depends on how fast you can press L1. or R1 or something.

I use only the STD version but it's not bad imo.

Shotguns already get a ROF increase anyway
And they are not definetly not fine. There only useful inbetween 2-4 meters. Less than 2 and knives are better, more than 4 and you deal very little damage

I say that this is one of the best ideas iv heard, but put the spread at what it is currently with level 2 or 3 operation, take one pellet away from MLT and STD shotguns, and this idea is perfect :)
full support, as an avid shotgun user who recognizes that the problem lies in higher level shotguns, as they become MORE difficult to use due to pinpoint accuracy, (which is fine by me, but some people like more spread), and ADV and PRO shotguns not scaling to other suits health. Currently, there is no point in spending SP past level 1 shotguns.

Is it true shotguns shoot 12 pellets?

The shotgun is fine (other than some slight hit detection issues every once in a while) Even in PC using the advanced shotgun in takes 2-3 hits and I can still kill the proto suits

The shotgun is fine (other than some slight hit detection issues every once in a while) Even in PC using the advanced shotgun in takes 2-3 hits and I can still kill the proto suits

I agree with Dexter, Shotguns are useless after about 5m, CCP needs to increase the range by at least 3-4m while also fixing some of the hit detection bugs. Sometimes when I shoot somebody with the SG, it shows the shield hit, which acknowledges the hit, BUT THERE IS NO DECREASE IN HEALTH. And within seconds afterwards I'm dead.

The main issue is that it still takes 2-3 hits with a PRO shotgun, there isn't much reason to use one unless you have trouble hitting ADV suits consistently. The ADV shotgun kills most ADV med suits in 1-2 shots, usually only 3 if one or more blasts are off center, and it kills PRO med suits in 2-3 shots. The PRO shotgun OHKs most ADV med suits with the occasional 2HK, but it kills PRO med suits in 2-3 shots, just with more of a trend towards 2HKs.

Overall, the ADV shotgun is the only one that is where it should be. The STD does a bit too much damage, negating most use for the ADV version. The PRO does too little damage, leaving little incentive to use it over the ADV.

I would be in favor of the proposed fix, but I would also like to see the shotgun retain its base spread and gain a sharpshooter skill instead, which would have the same bonus as the current Shotgun Operation skill. I also don't think an optimal range increase of more than 1m is necessary, if at all. 1m would suffice if a sharpshooter skill was not added, otherwise I think that aspect is fine as is.

I agreed with everything you said until you mentioned sharpshooter. LOL on a shotgun? I say the skills are alright but the weapons themselves need a bit of tweaking.

Make it this- one increases pellet count per blast by 1, and the other is a RoF buff.
More pellets in a mlt shotty soze spread gives more potential damage, while increasing effectiveness over distance.
More RoF allows you to burn that clip faster.

Or, we could make it +2, but take away 4 pellets w/o skills.

E.g. Mlt shotty now has 12(?) new shotty gets 8.
At op5, you would gain 10 pellets, making it 18.

I honestly like this idea, decreased spread makes shotties into bolt action rifles- but with an optimal of 5m.
New idea makes short range damage increase by 50% at proto, and allows that damage to keep "shotgun-like"
RoF just optimizes the weapon.

A CQC weapon. Read the above. Working as intended.