These tears are delightful

hmmm, the OP has a legitimate concern.

if a TEST pilot was repeatedly self-destructing his Battleship and then asking for the alliance to refund it, how long would he last before he was kicked etc?

Is FW army the new impswarm?

FWA is new PRO.

These tears are delightful

How about just do away with FF since it solves nothing but allowing idiots to grief others that enjoy something other than their preferred play style. Just one more reason to let this game burn.

Been doing this before 1.7 with one three man squad and doing it successfully, please more QQ

Wasn't there a topic about this yesterday? I'll paraphrase myself from that thread:

"Welcome to New Eden. Believe it or not, this is working as intended."

A full squad of Factional Warfare Army successfully depleted 100+ of our team's clones yesterday in a FW match. We almost managed to clone the enemy before our teammates lost the game for us but unfortunately killing proto suits is harder than detonating REs at your own feet. My phone was dead so I do not have a screen shot for those who are sure to post "pics or it didn't happen", but I'm sure this wasn't the first time a random squad thought this was funny.

My question to CCP: Are changes in penalties for sabotage (team killing/suidice/etc.) being considered for FW?

I suggest that the same penalty for harming other teammates are applied to every individual without any "forgive/punish" option. If you kill yourself 4 times, you're out. If you cause yourself 5,000 (or whatever the figure is) damage, you're out.

Thoughts?

The fact that CCP developed a penalty for friendly fire and destruction to your own vehicles implies that sabotage is not an intended mechanic. I understand the whole "welcome to New Eden" cop out, but I think that CCP has clearly went against this ideology over and over again in DUST 514. How many sandbox features are left in this game really? PC isn't even safe as CCP is claiming to fix the mechanic that allows it to be used as an ISK farm.

If this game wasn't what it was, I'd humor the "welcome to New Eden" response but unfortunately CCP doesn't even believe in it so why should I?

Yeah, um, I'll just go ahead and directly quote the devs on that one: "a certain amount of griefing is healthy."

Do you even CCP, bro?

What they don't want is so much griefing that the game becomes unplayable. Short of that, have at it.

A full squad of Factional Warfare Army successfully depleted 100+ of our team's clones yesterday in a FW match. We almost managed to clone the enemy before our teammates lost the game for us but unfortunately killing proto suits is harder than detonating REs at your own feet. My phone was dead so I do not have a screen shot for those who are sure to post "pics or it didn't happen", but I'm sure this wasn't the first time a random squad thought this was funny.

My question to CCP: Are changes in penalties for sabotage (team killing/suidice/etc.) being considered for FW?

I suggest that the same penalty for harming other teammates are applied to every individual without any "forgive/punish" option. If you kill yourself 4 times, you're out. If you cause yourself 5,000 (or whatever the figure is) damage, you're out.

Thoughts?

If they were detonating REs they're not doing it right. That process would be brutally slow compared to more effective suicide techniques. Just saying.

Been doing this before 1.7 with one three man squad and doing it successfully, please more QQ

I must admit that I do not know for sure the method by which they did this. It could've been another way. I'm curious, what is the faster method that you're referring to? I've heard of something with spawning into a tank and dying instantly but I'm not entirely sure how accurate that claim is.

You've been doing something that involves zero risk and requires no skill whatsoever?

Do you want a cookie? Because you're a ******* infant.

Yes. That works. There are also sockets on the map that act as kill hazards if you jump into them. Setting up a spawn uplink near those regions allow a player to jump in while the transition screen is still black. During the time the display is rendering players often immediately gain movement control and this in turn allows players to jump--into those convenient hazards.

I guess the response to this would be to buff the fence height.

"I've been suiciding in video games for hours to mildly agitate the few players I encounter BEFORE it was cool"

Punish people via isk for TK's.

Punish people via isk for suicides.

If you do not have a certain amount of isk, you cannot enter FW.

Mildly agitate? You've obviously never done this. The pure, unbridled rage that appears in your inbox when you do it is pure gold.