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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1354
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Posted - 2014.01.30 07:22:00 -
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Anybody have any links to any good tales of the Federations finest troops?
Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514
"No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6395
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Posted - 2014.01.30 09:34:00 -
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Finest huh? Rapists and Murderers I name them.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Callidus Vanus
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
215
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Posted - 2014.01.30 10:51:00 -
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A few years ago it was found out that the Federal Marines were murdering Caldari POW's, filming it and selling the videos on the black market under the moniker "Mort Media". Though apparently the FIO has now deleted the news article from the net. ((OOC the news article seems to have been removed or deleted))
Veteran of Caldari Prime.
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1356
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Posted - 2014.01.30 21:14:00 -
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Callidus Vanus wrote:A few years ago it was found out that the Federal Marines were murdering Caldari POW's, filming it and selling the videos on the black market under the moniker "Mort Media". Though apparently the FIO has now deleted the news article from the net. ((OOC the news article seems to have been removed or deleted))
Any alleged acts done by certain Gallente military to POWs is nothing compared to the treatment of Gallente civilians at the hands of the Caldari.
True Adamance wrote:Finest huh? Rapists and Murderers I name them.
The very notion of enslaving those who do not follow your beliefs is no more heinous. The Federation is a nation that wants peace and extends it's hand whenever possible in order maintain peace. So when war is forced upon us we do not hold back, we are ruthless and we remind our enemies why we are not to be messed with.
Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514
"No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6408
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Posted - 2014.01.30 21:27:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:Callidus Vanus wrote:A few years ago it was found out that the Federal Marines were murdering Caldari POW's, filming it and selling the videos on the black market under the moniker "Mort Media". Though apparently the FIO has now deleted the news article from the net. ((OOC the news article seems to have been removed or deleted)) Any alleged acts done by certain Gallente military to POWs is nothing compared to the treatment of Gallente civilians at the hands of the Caldari. True Adamance wrote:Finest huh? Rapists and Murderers I name them. The very notion of enslaving those who do not follow your beliefs is no more heinous. The Federation is a nation that wants peace and extends it's hand whenever possible in order maintain peace. So when war is forced upon us we do not hold back, we are ruthless and we remind our enemies why we are not to be messed with.
I will not get into this with you but that fact that you overlook the bombardment of Caldari Prime, the crashing of a vessel into the Ishukone offices, and the mistreatment of POW offering now proof of you own only consigns me to the belief you are as fanatical as I, only more ignorant....
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
8718
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Posted - 2014.01.30 22:05:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:Callidus Vanus wrote:A few years ago it was found out that the Federal Marines were murdering Caldari POW's, filming it and selling the videos on the black market under the moniker "Mort Media". Though apparently the FIO has now deleted the news article from the net. ((OOC the news article seems to have been removed or deleted)) Any alleged acts done by certain Gallente military to POWs is nothing compared to the treatment of Gallente civilians at the hands of the Caldari. True Adamance wrote:Finest huh? Rapists and Murderers I name them. The very notion of enslaving those who do not follow your beliefs is no more heinous. The Federation is a nation that wants peace and extends it's hand whenever possible in order maintain peace. So when war is forced upon us we do not hold back, we are ruthless and we remind our enemies why we are not to be messed with. I will not get into this with you but that fact that you overlook the bombardment of Caldari Prime, the crashing of a vessel into the Ishukone offices, and the mistreatment of POW offering now proof of you own only consigns me to the belief you are as fanatical as I, only more ignorant....
Similarly, you overlook the razing of an entire city, crashing a vessel into a highly populated city, both of which yielded greater death tolls. There's also the 'small' matter of certain people attempting to glass billions and billions of people. I haven't even seen the Amarr try to commit such atrocities to the Minmatar.
Mistreatment of POWs? You are defending a nation which kills its own national heroes.
ZATARA CARRIES US ALL
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
MAG Raven
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6410
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Posted - 2014.01.30 22:08:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:Callidus Vanus wrote:A few years ago it was found out that the Federal Marines were murdering Caldari POW's, filming it and selling the videos on the black market under the moniker "Mort Media". Though apparently the FIO has now deleted the news article from the net. ((OOC the news article seems to have been removed or deleted)) Any alleged acts done by certain Gallente military to POWs is nothing compared to the treatment of Gallente civilians at the hands of the Caldari. True Adamance wrote:Finest huh? Rapists and Murderers I name them. The very notion of enslaving those who do not follow your beliefs is no more heinous. The Federation is a nation that wants peace and extends it's hand whenever possible in order maintain peace. So when war is forced upon us we do not hold back, we are ruthless and we remind our enemies why we are not to be messed with. I will not get into this with you but that fact that you overlook the bombardment of Caldari Prime, the crashing of a vessel into the Ishukone offices, and the mistreatment of POW offering now proof of you own only consigns me to the belief you are as fanatical as I, only more ignorant.... Similarly, you overlook the razing of an entire city, crashing a vessel into a highly populated city, both of which yielded greater death tolls. There's also the 'small' matter of certain people attempting to glass billions and billions of people. I haven't even seen the Amarr try to commit such atrocities to the Minmatar. Mistreatment of POWs? You are defending a nation which kills its own national heroes.
I call it as I see it. I have no reason to believe these people Ellecon venerates as heroes are anything but monsters in a uniform, neither too can the Black Eagles truly be seen a force for the liberties of the people or human dignity considering the work they do.....
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1357
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Posted - 2014.01.30 22:52:00 -
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The destruction of the Ishukone office was an inside job in order for Heth to get the political backing to start a new war.
Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514
"No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6413
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Posted - 2014.01.30 22:55:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:The destruction of the Ishukone office was an inside job in order for Heth to get the political backing to start a new war.
How do you know this? Who told you? Are the a reliable contact?
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1363
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Posted - 2014.01.30 23:29:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:The destruction of the Ishukone office was an inside job in order for Heth to get the political backing to start a new war. How do you know this? Who told you? Are the a reliable contact?
You being from a race that believes in a god I find your skepticism humorous.
Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514
"No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6419
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Posted - 2014.01.30 23:34:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:True Adamance wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:The destruction of the Ishukone office was an inside job in order for Heth to get the political backing to start a new war. How do you know this? Who told you? Are the a reliable contact? You being from a race that believes in a god I find your skepticism humorous.
Faith is one thing I have in spades.....blind belief in something I have not.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
839
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Posted - 2014.02.02 01:50:00 -
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The files on any current black eagle units are heavily classified, and there are very few ways to retire that don't result in as sudden case of "bodybag syndrome"
However, the few known stories do not paint them kindly. Ruthless, efficient, and beholden only to a single man. Used as both defenders of freedom and as it's oppressors, to silence rivals and dissidents.
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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Skilfer
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
59
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Posted - 2014.02.02 21:23:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:The destruction of the Ishukone office was an inside job in order for Heth to get the political backing to start a new war.
I feel I need to correct you on this. Being that it was Ishukone HQ that was struck, I will let you know before hand that we have investigated the incident quite thoroughly. Admiral Alexander Noir of the Federation Navy was uncovered to be a Gallente extremest not unlike the State's own Templis Dragonaurs (and when I say Gallente, I mean the race, not the Federation itself). His suicide attack was a blind attempt to punish those he blamed for the Hueromont and Nouvelle Rouvenor incidents, the Caldari race. If you require further evidence, Admiral Noir broadcast the following statement on open channels just prior to his collision with the station:
"I have an obligation to my beloved Federation to settle accounts with this hateful race, these cursed Caldarians. For my entire life, I have mourned for Hueromont, wishing, praying, willing for the day when I could strike back on behalf of those souls who perished. Fate has bestowed upon me this grand opportunity, this great day, to take vengeance for all those who gave their lives for the Federation, the true guardian of our precious Gallentean race . . . may you rest in peace now, brave souls of Hueromont, and you, kindred spirits of Nouvelle Rouvenor, knowing that I will take back what was stolen from you . . . Curse you, Caldari . . . may I take as many of you with me that I can!" |
Ermac Vesely
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
7
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:13:00 -
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How about you search for SnipeHunt a group from Ostrakon these agents broke into a facility of the Eagles with our help and found some interesting stuff about illegal crowd control weapons which they wanted to use.
Me and some other mercs got hired to protect them from the eagles, they could hack into the system but had not enough time to get into the juicy stuff, because we got ambushed by other mercs who got hired by the FIO, the agents got killed and only a handful of activists could survive but most of them got captured.
Us mercs and some of the activists got away and we got paid in isks and suits but CONCORD and the Federation branded SnipeHunt as criminals. I tell you these bastards payed CONCORD so that they can further research into those illegal weapon systems.
The finest troops of the federation indeed. |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1374
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Posted - 2014.02.03 17:06:00 -
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Ermac Vesely wrote:How about you search for SnipeHunt a group from Ostrakon these agents broke into a facility of the Eagles with our help and found some interesting stuff about illegal crowd control weapons which they wanted to use.
Me and some other mercs got hired to protect them from the eagles, they could hack into the system but had not enough time to get into the juicy stuff, because we got ambushed by other mercs who got hired by the FIO, the agents got killed and only a handful of activists could survive but most of them got captured.
Us mercs and some of the activists got away and we got paid in isks and suits but CONCORD and the Federation branded SnipeHunt as criminals. I tell you these bastards payed CONCORD so that they can further research into those illegal weapon systems.
The finest troops of the federation indeed.
Your English disappoints me more than the content.
Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514
"No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
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Ermac Vesely
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
8
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Posted - 2014.02.03 18:20:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:Ermac Vesely wrote:How about you search for SnipeHunt a group from Ostrakon these agents broke into a facility of the Eagles with our help and found some interesting stuff about illegal crowd control weapons which they wanted to use.
Me and some other mercs got hired to protect them from the eagles, they could hack into the system but had not enough time to get into the juicy stuff, because we got ambushed by other mercs who got hired by the FIO, the agents got killed and only a handful of activists could survive but most of them got captured.
Us mercs and some of the activists got away and we got paid in isks and suits but CONCORD and the Federation branded SnipeHunt as criminals. I tell you these bastards payed CONCORD so that they can further research into those illegal weapon systems.
The finest troops of the federation indeed. Your English disappoints me more than the content. Whats the problem? You wanted to hear a good tale about the legendary Black Eagles and I gave you one.
And I know that my English is not perfect but at least I don't attack anyone on such an unimportant fact like you feel to do. |
True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6536
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Posted - 2014.02.03 19:41:00 -
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What is this English you speak of?
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Ermac Vesely
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
8
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Posted - 2014.02.03 20:36:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:What is this English you speak of? I don't know im just playing along maybe he means the gallente language? |
True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6537
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Posted - 2014.02.03 20:45:00 -
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Ermac Vesely wrote:True Adamance wrote:What is this English you speak of? I don't know im just playing along maybe he means the gallente language?
Hmmm I suppose. I only speak Ammarad....I have several translation programmes working to decipher what the other peoples of New Eden say to me...and even then much is lost in translation.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Ermac Vesely
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
8
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Posted - 2014.02.03 20:57:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Ermac Vesely wrote:True Adamance wrote:What is this English you speak of? I don't know im just playing along maybe he means the gallente language? Hmmm I suppose. I only speak Ammarad....I have several translation programmes working to decipher what the other peoples of New Eden say to me...and even then much is lost in translation. Eh who cares I can only speak my mother tongue and some broken sentences in gallente for the rest I need translators too and as long as the most important details are translated is the rest only filler material most of the time. |
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
1013
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:45:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Ermac Vesely wrote:True Adamance wrote:What is this English you speak of? I don't know im just playing along maybe he means the gallente language? Hmmm I suppose. I only speak Ammarad....I have several translation programmes working to decipher what the other peoples of New Eden say to me...and even then much is lost in translation. a+Ña+Ña+Éa+á+¦a+¦a+óa+¦ a+éa+¦a+¦a+ô+ªa+ô a+û+ª a+Å+óa+ûa+¦, a+Ña+Ña+Éa+á+¦a+¦a+óa+¦ a+Ña+Ña+áa+¦a+É a+û+ª a+Å+óa+û.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 29th
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
6558
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:15:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ermac Vesely wrote:True Adamance wrote:What is this English you speak of? I don't know im just playing along maybe he means the gallente language? Hmmm I suppose. I only speak Ammarad....I have several translation programmes working to decipher what the other peoples of New Eden say to me...and even then much is lost in translation. a+Ña+Ña+Éa+á+¦a+¦a+óa+¦ a+éa+¦a+¦a+ô+ªa+ô a+û+ª a+Å+óa+ûa+¦, a+Ña+Ña+Éa+á+¦a+¦a+óa+¦ a+Ña+Ña+áa+¦a+É a+û+ª a+Å+óa+û.
Damn seems my systems are having issues....
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
3013
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Posted - 2014.02.04 02:19:00 -
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While I was once a Black Eagle doing contracts for the Federal Treasury, I got sectioned 8 for playing russian roulette with a Scrambler Pistol.
PS: I won because there were 11 other people playing :P
Rifle Changes: DPS, range, and damage
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Ermac Vesely
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
8
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Posted - 2014.02.04 02:29:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:While I was once a Black Eagle doing contracts for the Federal Treasury, I got sectioned 8 for playing russian roulette with a Scrambler Pistol.
PS: I won because there were 11 other people playing :P What is "russian roulette"? And what is even a "russian"? And how can you play this with a scrambler pistol? The only game that I know to play with a scrambler pistol is "How long can you hold an overheated scrambler battery without dropping it". |
Kazig
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
9
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Posted - 2014.02.05 10:09:00 -
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Ermac Vesely wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:While I was once a Black Eagle doing contracts for the Federal Treasury, I got sectioned 8 for playing russian roulette with a Scrambler Pistol.
PS: I won because there were 11 other people playing :P What is "russian roulette"? And what is even a "russian"? And how can you play this with a scrambler pistol? The only game that I know to play with a scrambler pistol is "How long can you hold an overheated scrambler battery without dropping it".
It doesn't matter what a "russian" is, the man is obviously delusional and simply speaking nonsense. He did after all just state on an open channel that he was formerly a Black Eagle. |
Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
598
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Posted - 2014.02.15 01:10:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:Callidus Vanus wrote:A few years ago it was found out that the Federal Marines were murdering Caldari POW's, filming it and selling the videos on the black market under the moniker "Mort Media". Though apparently the FIO has now deleted the news article from the net. ((OOC the news article seems to have been removed or deleted)) Any alleged acts done by certain Gallente military to POWs is nothing compared to the treatment of Gallente civilians at the hands of the Caldari. True Adamance wrote:Finest huh? Rapists and Murderers I name them. The very notion of enslaving those who do not follow your beliefs is no more heinous. The Federation is a nation that wants peace and extends it's hand whenever possible in order maintain peace. So when war is forced upon us we do not hold back, we are ruthless and we remind our enemies why we are not to be messed with. We treat Pows fairly. No Pow has died unless he deserved it. We Caldari believe in honor we would die before abusing someone whom is incarcerated.
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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ConantheCimmerian
Terrestrial Suppression Force Lokun Listamenn
21
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Posted - 2014.03.05 20:47:00 -
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Im sorry to say folks. The best way to ensure the stability of the Federation & the Amarr...would be for a trade...Minmatar for Caldari. You give us what we want, you have what you want. These are the ideas that will lead to a prosperous New Eden.
Alt-ConanTheArmored
Eve Pilot-The Black Corsair
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
1234
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Posted - 2014.03.05 21:04:00 -
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ConantheCimmerian wrote:Im sorry to say folks. The best way to ensure the stability of the Federation & the Amarr...would be for a trade...Minmatar for Caldari. You give us what we want, you have what you want. These are the ideas that will lead to a prosperous New Eden. Considering that both Caldari and Minmatar have significant military strength, if not as much as the Gallente or Amarr, simply "handing them over" isn't going to work, especially with all the complex politics involved. We're not talking about some hostage situation here, but real nations. Doing a "trade" like this would have significant sociopolitical and military implications, and create too much of a mess for what its worth.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Feb. 10th
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7880
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Posted - 2014.03.05 21:30:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:ConantheCimmerian wrote:Im sorry to say folks. The best way to ensure the stability of the Federation & the Amarr...would be for a trade...Minmatar for Caldari. You give us what we want, you have what you want. These are the ideas that will lead to a prosperous New Eden. Considering that both Caldari and Minmatar have significant military strength, if not as much as the Gallente or Amarr, simply "handing them over" isn't going to work, especially with all the complex politics involved. We're not talking about some hostage situation here, but real nations. Doing a "trade" like this would have significant sociopolitical and military implications, and create too much of a mess for what its worth.
Logistically speaking, even if we could do it, we wouldn't.
The Caldari are children of God as well, we would never play games with the immortal souls of His children.
"War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine."
- Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
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ConantheCimmerian
Terrestrial Suppression Force Lokun Listamenn
27
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Posted - 2014.03.05 21:47:00 -
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What I mean by "handing them over" is the withdraw of all Federation support in Republic space & the withdraw of Empire support in State space. Its not something to idly discuss I admit. however. I feel it would be WORTH the 100 years of political unrest for the 1000 years of stability with the Amarr. Their faith leads them to a commitment that none can match and would be the best allies for the Federation. The Minmatar are seemingly only concerned with their own ends.
Alt-ConanTheArmored
Eve Pilot-The Black Corsair
"Is it flashing Red? SHOOT IT"
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7885
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:38:00 -
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ConantheCimmerian wrote:What I mean by "handing them over" is the withdraw of all Federation support in Republic space & the withdraw of Empire support in State space. Its not something to idly discuss I admit. however. I feel it would be WORTH the 100 years of political unrest for the 1000 years of stability with the Amarr. Their faith leads them to a commitment that none can match and would be the best allies for the Federation. The Minmatar are seemingly only concerned with their own ends.
You could all just give up and we'd have political stability for all time.
"War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine."
- Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
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Jacques Cayton II
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
711
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Posted - 2014.03.30 16:08:00 -
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Arkena WyrnsCaldari.=True Adamance wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:Callidus Vanus wrote:A few years ago it was found out that the Federal Marines were murdering Caldari POW's, filming it and selling the videos on the black market under the moniker "Mort Media". Though apparently the FIO has now deleted the news article from the net. ((OOC the news article seems to have been removed or deleted)) Any alleged acts done by certain Gallente military to POWs is nothing compared to the treatment of Gallente civilians at the hands of the Caldari. True Adamance wrote:Finest huh? Rapists and Murderers I name them. The very notion of enslaving those who do not follow your beliefs is no more heinous. The Federation is a nation that wants peace and extends it's hand whenever possible in order maintain peace. So when war is forced upon us we do not hold back, we are ruthless and we remind our enemies why we are not to be messed with. I will not get into this with you but that fact that you overlook the bombardment of Caldari Prime, the crashing of a vessel into the Ishukone offices, and the mistreatment of POW offering now proof of you own only consigns me to the belief you are as fanatical as I, only more ignorant....
Similarly, you overlook the razing of an entire city, crashing a vessel into a highly populated city, both of which yielded greater death tolls. There's also the 'small' matter of certain people attempting to glass billions and billions of people. I haven't even seen the Amarr try to commit such atrocities to the Minmatar.
Mistreatment of POWs? You are defending a nation which kills its own national heroes.[/quote]
We Caldari did what was necessary. The crashing of our ship was to save millions at the sacrifice of a few hundred thousand. The suicide bombers in Nouvelle Rouvenor were a terrorist organization hated by both Caldari and Gallenteans. And the titan over Caldari Prime was a deterrent never meant for use. The Federation has done more devious atrocities to the Caldari for no reason such as the bombing of Caldari Prime or the Ishukone headquarters which had no tactical position at all but oppression.
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
4878
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Posted - 2014.03.30 19:54:00 -
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I'm content with the thought that the Gallente Military is made com completely out of volunteers, is less well funded and is smaller than the Caldari Military, but still manages to keep it on its wits end.
If the Gallente ever decided to fully militarize we could annihilate the Caldari.
I'am content knowing this.
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9051
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:01:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'm content with the thought that the Gallente Military is made com completely out of volunteers, is less well funded and is smaller than the Caldari Military, but still manages to keep it on its wits end.
If the Gallente ever decided to fully militarize we could annihilate the Caldari.
I'am content knowing this.
That's arrogant considering every Caldari of age, male or female is a trained and competent soldier....considering thins the Caldari military forces could number very highly......
Heth's invasion of Luminaire was and example of this as 20 million Caldari military personnel secured the planet of Caldari Prime and forced the Federation into accepting the presence of a titan and supporting fleet....as well as the original fleets successful withdrawal.
Volunteering is noble......but inherently flawed if the volunteer is doing so for selfish causes, as all volunteers are want to do. There is something positive to be said for those who desire and step forth to protect their country.....but if the slightest weakness of character in face of duty becomes present...... that noble deed is wholly undone.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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Jacques Cayton II
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
712
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:34:00 -
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Well said Templar Kador. I remember the retaking of Caldari Prime the Gallentean forces gave up as soon as they saw are numbers and those that didn't felt the might of the citizens of the State. The scariest thing about a Statesmen is he cares more of the State than themselves which means they'll do what's necessary to win. A volunteer of the Federation not so much in the reg army.
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:39:00 -
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The Federations all volunteer force is a reflection of our shared belief that personal liberty is our greatest value. Some join for the benefits simply because they do not have the means to move up any other way. Some join because are natural fighters.
Our lack of a militaristic culture means the first group will in most cases be inferior to those cultures built on loyalty and warfare. They must rely heavily on the resources, organization, and technology the Federation Military provides, but when all that is lost every person will decide for themselves if their life is worth losing, and in many cases it is not.
Then we have the second group who by choice have decided to devote their lives to warfare. In a society that does not pressure it's citizens to serve through honor alone these are some of the fiercest warriors. Even their loyalties lie not with their government, god, or any individual, but to the principles the federation is founded on.
One can argue whether an all volunteer force is inherently inferior, but having a few dedicated and devoted individuals who come by choice than a mass of brainwashed conscripts makes it easier to give more resources to each individual, and making it unnecessary to throw away lives needlessly.
With that said our diverse culture does sometimes give forth some terrible people and heinous acts, but at least we don't institutionalize it.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9063
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Posted - 2014.03.30 23:32:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:The Federations all volunteer force is a reflection of our shared belief that personal liberty is our greatest value. Some join for the benefits simply because they do not have the means to move up any other way. Some join because are natural fighters.
Our lack of a militaristic culture means the first group will in most cases be inferior to those cultures built on loyalty and warfare. They must rely heavily on the resources, organization, and technology the Federation Military provides, but when all that is lost every person will decide for themselves if their life is worth losing, and in many cases it is not.
Then we have the second group who by choice have decided to devote their lives to warfare. In a society that does not pressure it's citizens to serve through honor alone these are some of the fiercest warriors. Even their loyalties lie not with their government, god, or any individual, but to the principles the federation is founded on.
One can argue whether an all volunteer force is inherently inferior, but having a few dedicated and devoted individuals who come by choice than a mass of brainwashed conscripts makes it easier to give more resources to each individual, and making it unnecessary to throw away lives needlessly.
With that said our diverse culture does sometimes give forth some terrible people and heinous acts, but at least we don't institutionalize it. It is not a matter of them being inferior as soldier, but lacking a unified purpose.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1635
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Posted - 2014.03.31 00:51:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:The Federations all volunteer force is a reflection of our shared belief that personal liberty is our greatest value. Some join for the benefits simply because they do not have the means to move up any other way. Some join because are natural fighters.
Our lack of a militaristic culture means the first group will in most cases be inferior to those cultures built on loyalty and warfare. They must rely heavily on the resources, organization, and technology the Federation Military provides, but when all that is lost every person will decide for themselves if their life is worth losing, and in many cases it is not.
Then we have the second group who by choice have decided to devote their lives to warfare. In a society that does not pressure it's citizens to serve through honor alone these are some of the fiercest warriors. Even their loyalties lie not with their government, god, or any individual, but to the principles the federation is founded on.
One can argue whether an all volunteer force is inherently inferior, but having a few dedicated and devoted individuals who come by choice than a mass of brainwashed conscripts makes it easier to give more resources to each individual, and making it unnecessary to throw away lives needlessly.
With that said our diverse culture does sometimes give forth some terrible people and heinous acts, but at least we don't institutionalize it. It is not a matter of them being inferior as soldier, but lacking a unified purpose.
No disagreement here. Inferiority in my post is in regards to motivation, not skill or power.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9067
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Posted - 2014.03.31 01:00:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:True Adamance wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:The Federations all volunteer force is a reflection of our shared belief that personal liberty is our greatest value. Some join for the benefits simply because they do not have the means to move up any other way. Some join because are natural fighters.
Our lack of a militaristic culture means the first group will in most cases be inferior to those cultures built on loyalty and warfare. They must rely heavily on the resources, organization, and technology the Federation Military provides, but when all that is lost every person will decide for themselves if their life is worth losing, and in many cases it is not.
Then we have the second group who by choice have decided to devote their lives to warfare. In a society that does not pressure it's citizens to serve through honor alone these are some of the fiercest warriors. Even their loyalties lie not with their government, god, or any individual, but to the principles the federation is founded on.
One can argue whether an all volunteer force is inherently inferior, but having a few dedicated and devoted individuals who come by choice than a mass of brainwashed conscripts makes it easier to give more resources to each individual, and making it unnecessary to throw away lives needlessly.
With that said our diverse culture does sometimes give forth some terrible people and heinous acts, but at least we don't institutionalize it. It is not a matter of them being inferior as soldier, but lacking a unified purpose. No disagreement here. Inferiority in my post is in regards to motivation, not skill or power.
Skill and power are meaningless. Only that purpose you inherently serve. If your purpose is to die then take solace in fulfilling your duty.
Duty is its own reward. There is no nobler way to die for than than in the service of God.
This is why our soldiers are superior to those of the other Empires. True soldier of the Amarr are possessed of a divine purpose.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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Jacques Cayton II
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
716
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Posted - 2014.03.31 01:38:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:True Adamance wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:The Federations all volunteer force is a reflection of our shared belief that personal liberty is our greatest value. Some join for the benefits simply because they do not have the means to move up any other way. Some join because are natural fighters.
Our lack of a militaristic culture means the first group will in most cases be inferior to those cultures built on loyalty and warfare. They must rely heavily on the resources, organization, and technology the Federation Military provides, but when all that is lost every person will decide for themselves if their life is worth losing, and in many cases it is not.
Then we have the second group who by choice have decided to devote their lives to warfare. In a society that does not pressure it's citizens to serve through honor alone these are some of the fiercest warriors. Even their loyalties lie not with their government, god, or any individual, but to the principles the federation is founded on.
One can argue whether an all volunteer force is inherently inferior, but having a few dedicated and devoted individuals who come by choice than a mass of brainwashed conscripts makes it easier to give more resources to each individual, and making it unnecessary to throw away lives needlessly.
With that said our diverse culture does sometimes give forth some terrible people and heinous acts, but at least we don't institutionalize it. It is not a matter of them being inferior as soldier, but lacking a unified purpose. No disagreement here. Inferiority in my post is in regards to motivation, not skill or power. Skill and power are meaningless. Only that purpose you inherently serve. If your purpose is to die then take solace in fulfilling your duty. Duty is its own reward. There is no nobler way to die for than than in the service of God. This is why our soldiers are superior to those of the other Empires. True soldier of the Amarr are possessed of a divine purpose. I won't disagree with you there, but our soldiers will to fight for the betterment of the State and continue the Caldari way is great. It gives them strength and the ability to do whatever whenever. We train our soldiers from the moment they can walk. They learn to fight, they learn to think in some of the harshest environments known to man. I think the Amarr and Caldari have some of the best and most well trained forces in new eden.
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
642
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:51:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Finest huh? Rapists and Murderers I name them.
The very notion of enslaving those who do not follow your beliefs is no more heinous. The Federation is a nation that wants peace and extends it's hand whenever possible in order maintain peace. So when war is forced upon us we do not hold back, we are ruthless and we remind our enemies why we are not to be messed with.[/quote]
I agree with the first half of what u said there, the Amarr are the worst around here. Religious nuts and slavers, they'll use excuses like " bringing the light to those in the darkness " when all they're doing is providing bodies for those in their hierarchy. Everyone should be able to choose what they believe in and not be property.
Now for the other half I don't believe that when the Gallente say they want peace, bombarding Caldari Prime, forcing the Caldari from their home planet. Constantly saying that you're bringing freedom to the population you're fighting is a joke. I don't hate you guys but if you stand for freedom stay in your own territory and stop trying to enforce your ideals on the caldari that are stuck in your territory. The Federation should just leave the caldari alone.
Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1639
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Posted - 2014.04.02 03:52:00 -
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Never forget Nouvelle Rouvenor. We retaliated after the destruction of an entire city. If our citizens could not be safe under the protection of the Caldari then we were going to step in to ensure their safety ourselves. Many innocents were caught in the crossfire on both sides and our governments actions at the time may have been extreme, but that is the nature of democracy. Our federation follows the will of the people it represents, not an emperor, a ceo, or elder, our people demanded blood for blood and they got it.
This thread was not intended to highlight politics, it was intended to find out if anyone had a source on any good tales.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9187
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Posted - 2014.04.02 03:56:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:Never forget Nouvelle Rouvenor. We retaliated after the destruction of an entire city. If our citizens could not be safe under the protection of the Caldari then we were going to step in to ensure their safety ourselves. Many innocents were caught in the crossfire on both sides and our governments actions at the time may have been extreme, but that is the nature of democracy. Our federation follows the will of the people it represents, not an emperor, a ceo, or elder, our people demanded blood for blood and they got it.
This thread was not intended to highlight politics, it was intended to find out if anyone had a source on any good tales.
Indeed you went to war because of the actions of a radical group of terrorists not directly affiliated with the Caldari governing body........
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1639
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Posted - 2014.04.02 04:02:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:Never forget Nouvelle Rouvenor. We retaliated after the destruction of an entire city. If our citizens could not be safe under the protection of the Caldari then we were going to step in to ensure their safety ourselves. Many innocents were caught in the crossfire on both sides and our governments actions at the time may have been extreme, but that is the nature of democracy. Our federation follows the will of the people it represents, not an emperor, a ceo, or elder, our people demanded blood for blood and they got it.
This thread was not intended to highlight politics, it was intended to find out if anyone had a source on any good tales. Indeed you went to war because of the actions of a radical group of terrorists not directly affiliated with the Caldari governing body........
The people retaliated on who they felt was responsible, I never said they were right. Did the Caldari do no different after the Malkalen catastrophe?
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Skilfer
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
69
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Posted - 2014.04.02 14:05:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:True Adamance wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:Never forget Nouvelle Rouvenor. We retaliated after the destruction of an entire city. If our citizens could not be safe under the protection of the Caldari then we were going to step in to ensure their safety ourselves. Many innocents were caught in the crossfire on both sides and our governments actions at the time may have been extreme, but that is the nature of democracy. Our federation follows the will of the people it represents, not an emperor, a ceo, or elder, our people demanded blood for blood and they got it.
This thread was not intended to highlight politics, it was intended to find out if anyone had a source on any good tales. Indeed you went to war because of the actions of a radical group of terrorists not directly affiliated with the Caldari governing body........ The people retaliated on who they felt was responsible, I never said they were right. Did the Caldari do no different after the Malkalen catastrophe?
While I previously stated the individuals involved in both incidents were extrememists, that by no means makes them the same situation. While I have never agreed with how the former executor responded to it, the Malkalen Catastrophe was conducted by a high ranking official of the regular Federation Navy, in contrast with the rogue terrorist organization that caused the Nouvelle Rouvenor incident. One is a military incident, the other a police.
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Templar Twelve
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
43
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Posted - 2014.04.03 10:00:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:Anybody have any links to any good tales of the Federations finest troops?
Since no one has yet to answer this fully, I have taken the liberty of going through the library archives concerning these "special organisations".
The Black Eagles (emblem embedded) are the Federal Intelligence service and report to the President. Their tactics, referred to as protocols, are named with the type of protocol, a symbol, and a number.
The Black Eagles is reported being created in the aftermath of the Caldari invasion. Though officially titled the "Special Department of Internal Investigations and Federal Security", and carrying the sanctioned acronym of SDII, this secretive new organization nonetheless immediately became known to everyone as the Black Eagles. This moniker is most commonly associated with the SDII logo GÇô a black Gallente eagle outlined in white against a dark background GÇô but there are a fair few who proclaim the name is a direct allusion to the man chosen to lead the department, Head Senator Mentas Blaque. Blaque himself has never commented publicly on anything to do with the agency, preferring instead to let dry press releases and carefully calculated public operations do the talking for him.
The Black Eagles organisation can be summed up in 3 points. Most information here have been leaked by former agents that have defected (yes, defected) from the agency:
- The Black Eagles have a well-equipped, highly trained paramilitary arm. Black Eagle-uniformed troops have been seen on more than one occasion conducting security sweeps in high-sensitivity public zones. They are trained in every manner of covert infiltration, spaceborne and terrestrial, as well as the use of cutting-edge weaponry and tools of the trade. Due to prohibitive selection and training their numbers are not great at present, but growing rapidly.
- The Black Eagles have a presence in space, though reports vary widely about the extent of their operational capacity. They are known to travel in specially commissioned dark-hulled versions of Gallente Navy staples.
The exact capabilities of these vessels are unknown, but they are invariably reported to be more poweful than both their standard and Navy counterparts. Reports also unanimously agree that the Eagles possess a capsuleer contingent numbering over one hundred pilots (and presumably growing).
- The Black Eagles have built up a ruthless image, one that indicates the agency will go to considerable lengths to make sure its objectives are met.
This is the area most sparsely commented on by former agents. With very few exceptions, defectors have completely disavowed all knowledge of the illicit activities so often attributed to the Eagles, such as torture, blackmail and kidnapping. Whether this is down to the extreme sensitivity of such subjects or the actual absence of such activities from the modus operandi remains wholly unknown.
Focusing on the last point, and on the following recorded audio transcript, I would say that the Black Eagles embodies the Gallente Federation as a whole. While trying to uphold a public figure of democracy, focusing on the will of the "people", they instead work in the shadows while listening in and putting tabs on every civilian in the Federation. There have already been a fair share of defectors from the agency since its inception, people who view the Eagles' methods as violations of long-sacred Gallente ideals.
To end this, I managed to get a hold of a recorded transcript from one of my many contacts, which clearly shows the brutality the Eagles possess:
Recorded Audio Transcript wrote:"They make you watch it all, man. They make you watch through the eyes of the person you killed. It's all for show, really, but they do it so well. I saw the guy come in, brush his teeth, kiss his son good night... then I felt my bullet go into his skull just seconds after it shattered the window. Back when I'd shot him, you know, I didn't know anything... all I saw was a man leaning down in the spot where I'd been told he would be, then I squeezed the trigger, twice to make sure, and got the hell out of there. But they had to make me relive it all through this bullshit virtual scenario. They want you to know that you're gonna be called upon to kill innocent people, good people, Federation people, and that you have to be comfortable with doing it because it serves the greater good. Whatever the **** that's even supposed to mean."
GÇöAudio transcript from "Agent Mornay," alleged Black Eagle defector
Regarding the Federal Marines, I found mostly public information: "The Federal Marines have a long, proud history of serving the Gallente Federation in space and on planetary bodies. They are among the elite troops of the Federal military and typically at the forefront when the Gallente Federation goes to the extreme of intervening militarily in planetary conflicts across New Eden."
And an unfinished Gallente recruitment poster for the Federal Marines.
T12, out.
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Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
385
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Posted - 2014.04.06 07:30:00 -
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Kazig wrote:Ermac Vesely wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:While I was once a Black Eagle doing contracts for the Federal Treasury, I got sectioned 8 for playing russian roulette with a Scrambler Pistol.
PS: I won because there were 11 other people playing :P What is "russian roulette"? And what is even a "russian"? And how can you play this with a scrambler pistol? The only game that I know to play with a scrambler pistol is "How long can you hold an overheated scrambler battery without dropping it". It doesn't matter what a "russian" is, the man is obviously delusional and simply speaking nonsense. He did after all just state on an open channel that he was formerly a Black Eagle.
Aren't Russians one of those damn space pirate groups that attack everyone in null-sec?
The not Logic Bomb!
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axINVICTUSxa
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
64
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Posted - 2014.04.06 23:17:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:Anybody have any links to any good tales of the Federations finest troops?
In March this year, a few Federation Marines were seen holding a point in Southern Bosena, District 10, against the Corporate Fascist Aggression of the Caldari States.
Our Federatsii troops were the finest. I was a Federal Marine before I joined the Wolves, and I still wear my badge with pride.
Davai Federatsii!!!!
Remember Bosena! Defeat the imperialist Amarr and the Corporate Fascist Caldari!
-Dmitri
I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
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