DUST Search - Black Eagles and Federal Marines

True Adamance wrote:

Tallen Ellecon wrote:

The Federations all volunteer force is a reflection of our shared belief that personal liberty is our greatest value. Some join for the benefits simply because they do not have the means to move up any other way. Some join because are natural fighters.

Our lack of a militaristic culture means the first group will in most cases be inferior to those cultures built on loyalty and warfare. They must rely heavily on the resources, organization, and technology the Federation Military provides, but when all that is lost every person will decide for themselves if their life is worth losing, and in many cases it is not.

Then we have the second group who by choice have decided to devote their lives to warfare. In a society that does not pressure it's citizens to serve through honor alone these are some of the fiercest warriors. Even their loyalties lie not with their government, god, or any individual, but to the principles the federation is founded on.

One can argue whether an all volunteer force is inherently inferior, but having a few dedicated and devoted individuals who come by choice than a mass of brainwashed conscripts makes it easier to give more resources to each individual, and making it unnecessary to throw away lives needlessly.

With that said our diverse culture does sometimes give forth some terrible people and heinous acts, but at least we don't institutionalize it.

It is not a matter of them being inferior as soldier, but lacking a unified purpose.

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Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1354	Posted - 2014.01.30 07:22:00 - [1] - Quote Anybody have any links to any good tales of the Federations finest troops? Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1356	Posted - 2014.01.30 21:14:00 - [2] - Quote Callidus Vanus wrote: A few years ago it was found out that the Federal Marines were murdering Caldari POW's, filming it and selling the videos on the black market under the moniker "Mort Media". Though apparently the FIO has now deleted the news article from the net. ((OOC the news article seems to have been removed or deleted)) Any alleged acts done by certain Gallente military to POWs is nothing compared to the treatment of Gallente civilians at the hands of the Caldari. True Adamance wrote: Finest huh? Rapists and Murderers I name them. The very notion of enslaving those who do not follow your beliefs is no more heinous. The Federation is a nation that wants peace and extends it's hand whenever possible in order maintain peace. So when war is forced upon us we do not hold back, we are ruthless and we remind our enemies why we are not to be messed with. Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1357	Posted - 2014.01.30 22:52:00 - [3] - Quote The destruction of the Ishukone office was an inside job in order for Heth to get the political backing to start a new war. Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1363	Posted - 2014.01.30 23:29:00 - [4] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: The destruction of the Ishukone office was an inside job in order for Heth to get the political backing to start a new war. How do you know this? Who told you? Are the a reliable contact? You being from a race that believes in a god I find your skepticism humorous. Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1374	Posted - 2014.02.03 17:06:00 - [5] - Quote Ermac Vesely wrote: How about you search for SnipeHunt a group from Ostrakon these agents broke into a facility of the Eagles with our help and found some interesting stuff about illegal crowd control weapons which they wanted to use. Me and some other mercs got hired to protect them from the eagles, they could hack into the system but had not enough time to get into the juicy stuff, because we got ambushed by other mercs who got hired by the FIO, the agents got killed and only a handful of activists could survive but most of them got captured. Us mercs and some of the activists got away and we got paid in isks and suits but CONCORD and the Federation branded SnipeHunt as criminals. I tell you these bastards payed CONCORD so that they can further research into those illegal weapon systems. The finest troops of the federation indeed. Your English disappoints me more than the content. Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1634	Posted - 2014.03.30 22:39:00 - [6] - Quote The Federations all volunteer force is a reflection of our shared belief that personal liberty is our greatest value. Some join for the benefits simply because they do not have the means to move up any other way. Some join because are natural fighters. Our lack of a militaristic culture means the first group will in most cases be inferior to those cultures built on loyalty and warfare. They must rely heavily on the resources, organization, and technology the Federation Military provides, but when all that is lost every person will decide for themselves if their life is worth losing, and in many cases it is not. Then we have the second group who by choice have decided to devote their lives to warfare. In a society that does not pressure it's citizens to serve through honor alone these are some of the fiercest warriors. Even their loyalties lie not with their government, god, or any individual, but to the principles the federation is founded on. One can argue whether an all volunteer force is inherently inferior, but having a few dedicated and devoted individuals who come by choice than a mass of brainwashed conscripts makes it easier to give more resources to each individual, and making it unnecessary to throw away lives needlessly. With that said our diverse culture does sometimes give forth some terrible people and heinous acts, but at least we don't institutionalize it. Supporter of tiericide, EVE interaction, and a proper NPE SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1635	Posted - 2014.03.31 00:51:00 - [7] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: The Federations all volunteer force is a reflection of our shared belief that personal liberty is our greatest value. Some join for the benefits simply because they do not have the means to move up any other way. Some join because are natural fighters. Our lack of a militaristic culture means the first group will in most cases be inferior to those cultures built on loyalty and warfare. They must rely heavily on the resources, organization, and technology the Federation Military provides, but when all that is lost every person will decide for themselves if their life is worth losing, and in many cases it is not. Then we have the second group who by choice have decided to devote their lives to warfare. In a society that does not pressure it's citizens to serve through honor alone these are some of the fiercest warriors. Even their loyalties lie not with their government, god, or any individual, but to the principles the federation is founded on. One can argue whether an all volunteer force is inherently inferior, but having a few dedicated and devoted individuals who come by choice than a mass of brainwashed conscripts makes it easier to give more resources to each individual, and making it unnecessary to throw away lives needlessly. With that said our diverse culture does sometimes give forth some terrible people and heinous acts, but at least we don't institutionalize it. It is not a matter of them being inferior as soldier, but lacking a unified purpose. No disagreement here. Inferiority in my post is in regards to motivation, not skill or power. Supporter of tiericide, EVE interaction, and a proper NPE SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1639	Posted - 2014.04.02 03:52:00 - [8] - Quote Never forget Nouvelle Rouvenor. We retaliated after the destruction of an entire city. If our citizens could not be safe under the protection of the Caldari then we were going to step in to ensure their safety ourselves. Many innocents were caught in the crossfire on both sides and our governments actions at the time may have been extreme, but that is the nature of democracy. Our federation follows the will of the people it represents, not an emperor, a ceo, or elder, our people demanded blood for blood and they got it. This thread was not intended to highlight politics, it was intended to find out if anyone had a source on any good tales. Supporter of tiericide, EVE interaction, and a proper NPE SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1639	Posted - 2014.04.02 04:02:00 - [9] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: Never forget Nouvelle Rouvenor. We retaliated after the destruction of an entire city. If our citizens could not be safe under the protection of the Caldari then we were going to step in to ensure their safety ourselves. Many innocents were caught in the crossfire on both sides and our governments actions at the time may have been extreme, but that is the nature of democracy. Our federation follows the will of the people it represents, not an emperor, a ceo, or elder, our people demanded blood for blood and they got it. This thread was not intended to highlight politics, it was intended to find out if anyone had a source on any good tales. Indeed you went to war because of the actions of a radical group of terrorists not directly affiliated with the Caldari governing body........ The people retaliated on who they felt was responsible, I never said they were right. Did the Caldari do no different after the Malkalen catastrophe? Supporter of tiericide, EVE interaction, and a proper NPE SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy.