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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6395
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Posted - 2014.01.30 09:34:00 -
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Finest huh? Rapists and Murderers I name them.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6408
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Posted - 2014.01.30 21:27:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:Callidus Vanus wrote:A few years ago it was found out that the Federal Marines were murdering Caldari POW's, filming it and selling the videos on the black market under the moniker "Mort Media". Though apparently the FIO has now deleted the news article from the net. ((OOC the news article seems to have been removed or deleted)) Any alleged acts done by certain Gallente military to POWs is nothing compared to the treatment of Gallente civilians at the hands of the Caldari. True Adamance wrote:Finest huh? Rapists and Murderers I name them. The very notion of enslaving those who do not follow your beliefs is no more heinous. The Federation is a nation that wants peace and extends it's hand whenever possible in order maintain peace. So when war is forced upon us we do not hold back, we are ruthless and we remind our enemies why we are not to be messed with.
I will not get into this with you but that fact that you overlook the bombardment of Caldari Prime, the crashing of a vessel into the Ishukone offices, and the mistreatment of POW offering now proof of you own only consigns me to the belief you are as fanatical as I, only more ignorant....
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6410
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Posted - 2014.01.30 22:08:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:Callidus Vanus wrote:A few years ago it was found out that the Federal Marines were murdering Caldari POW's, filming it and selling the videos on the black market under the moniker "Mort Media". Though apparently the FIO has now deleted the news article from the net. ((OOC the news article seems to have been removed or deleted)) Any alleged acts done by certain Gallente military to POWs is nothing compared to the treatment of Gallente civilians at the hands of the Caldari. True Adamance wrote:Finest huh? Rapists and Murderers I name them. The very notion of enslaving those who do not follow your beliefs is no more heinous. The Federation is a nation that wants peace and extends it's hand whenever possible in order maintain peace. So when war is forced upon us we do not hold back, we are ruthless and we remind our enemies why we are not to be messed with. I will not get into this with you but that fact that you overlook the bombardment of Caldari Prime, the crashing of a vessel into the Ishukone offices, and the mistreatment of POW offering now proof of you own only consigns me to the belief you are as fanatical as I, only more ignorant.... Similarly, you overlook the razing of an entire city, crashing a vessel into a highly populated city, both of which yielded greater death tolls. There's also the 'small' matter of certain people attempting to glass billions and billions of people. I haven't even seen the Amarr try to commit such atrocities to the Minmatar. Mistreatment of POWs? You are defending a nation which kills its own national heroes.
I call it as I see it. I have no reason to believe these people Ellecon venerates as heroes are anything but monsters in a uniform, neither too can the Black Eagles truly be seen a force for the liberties of the people or human dignity considering the work they do.....
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6413
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Posted - 2014.01.30 22:55:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:The destruction of the Ishukone office was an inside job in order for Heth to get the political backing to start a new war.
How do you know this? Who told you? Are the a reliable contact?
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6419
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Posted - 2014.01.30 23:34:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:True Adamance wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:The destruction of the Ishukone office was an inside job in order for Heth to get the political backing to start a new war. How do you know this? Who told you? Are the a reliable contact? You being from a race that believes in a god I find your skepticism humorous.
Faith is one thing I have in spades.....blind belief in something I have not.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6536
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Posted - 2014.02.03 19:41:00 -
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What is this English you speak of?
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6537
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Posted - 2014.02.03 20:45:00 -
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Ermac Vesely wrote:True Adamance wrote:What is this English you speak of? I don't know im just playing along maybe he means the gallente language?
Hmmm I suppose. I only speak Ammarad....I have several translation programmes working to decipher what the other peoples of New Eden say to me...and even then much is lost in translation.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6558
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:15:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ermac Vesely wrote:True Adamance wrote:What is this English you speak of? I don't know im just playing along maybe he means the gallente language? Hmmm I suppose. I only speak Ammarad....I have several translation programmes working to decipher what the other peoples of New Eden say to me...and even then much is lost in translation. a+Ña+Ña+Éa+á+¦a+¦a+óa+¦ a+éa+¦a+¦a+ô+ªa+ô a+û+ª a+Å+óa+ûa+¦, a+Ña+Ña+Éa+á+¦a+¦a+óa+¦ a+Ña+Ña+áa+¦a+É a+û+ª a+Å+óa+û.
Damn seems my systems are having issues....
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7880
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Posted - 2014.03.05 21:30:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:ConantheCimmerian wrote:Im sorry to say folks. The best way to ensure the stability of the Federation & the Amarr...would be for a trade...Minmatar for Caldari. You give us what we want, you have what you want. These are the ideas that will lead to a prosperous New Eden. Considering that both Caldari and Minmatar have significant military strength, if not as much as the Gallente or Amarr, simply "handing them over" isn't going to work, especially with all the complex politics involved. We're not talking about some hostage situation here, but real nations. Doing a "trade" like this would have significant sociopolitical and military implications, and create too much of a mess for what its worth.
Logistically speaking, even if we could do it, we wouldn't.
The Caldari are children of God as well, we would never play games with the immortal souls of His children.
"War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine."
- Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7885
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:38:00 -
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ConantheCimmerian wrote:What I mean by "handing them over" is the withdraw of all Federation support in Republic space & the withdraw of Empire support in State space. Its not something to idly discuss I admit. however. I feel it would be WORTH the 100 years of political unrest for the 1000 years of stability with the Amarr. Their faith leads them to a commitment that none can match and would be the best allies for the Federation. The Minmatar are seemingly only concerned with their own ends.
You could all just give up and we'd have political stability for all time.
"War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine."
- Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9051
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Posted - 2014.03.30 20:01:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'm content with the thought that the Gallente Military is made com completely out of volunteers, is less well funded and is smaller than the Caldari Military, but still manages to keep it on its wits end.
If the Gallente ever decided to fully militarize we could annihilate the Caldari.
I'am content knowing this.
That's arrogant considering every Caldari of age, male or female is a trained and competent soldier....considering thins the Caldari military forces could number very highly......
Heth's invasion of Luminaire was and example of this as 20 million Caldari military personnel secured the planet of Caldari Prime and forced the Federation into accepting the presence of a titan and supporting fleet....as well as the original fleets successful withdrawal.
Volunteering is noble......but inherently flawed if the volunteer is doing so for selfish causes, as all volunteers are want to do. There is something positive to be said for those who desire and step forth to protect their country.....but if the slightest weakness of character in face of duty becomes present...... that noble deed is wholly undone.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9063
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Posted - 2014.03.30 23:32:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:The Federations all volunteer force is a reflection of our shared belief that personal liberty is our greatest value. Some join for the benefits simply because they do not have the means to move up any other way. Some join because are natural fighters.
Our lack of a militaristic culture means the first group will in most cases be inferior to those cultures built on loyalty and warfare. They must rely heavily on the resources, organization, and technology the Federation Military provides, but when all that is lost every person will decide for themselves if their life is worth losing, and in many cases it is not.
Then we have the second group who by choice have decided to devote their lives to warfare. In a society that does not pressure it's citizens to serve through honor alone these are some of the fiercest warriors. Even their loyalties lie not with their government, god, or any individual, but to the principles the federation is founded on.
One can argue whether an all volunteer force is inherently inferior, but having a few dedicated and devoted individuals who come by choice than a mass of brainwashed conscripts makes it easier to give more resources to each individual, and making it unnecessary to throw away lives needlessly.
With that said our diverse culture does sometimes give forth some terrible people and heinous acts, but at least we don't institutionalize it.
It is not a matter of them being inferior as soldier, but lacking a unified purpose.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9067
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Posted - 2014.03.31 01:00:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:True Adamance wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:The Federations all volunteer force is a reflection of our shared belief that personal liberty is our greatest value. Some join for the benefits simply because they do not have the means to move up any other way. Some join because are natural fighters.
Our lack of a militaristic culture means the first group will in most cases be inferior to those cultures built on loyalty and warfare. They must rely heavily on the resources, organization, and technology the Federation Military provides, but when all that is lost every person will decide for themselves if their life is worth losing, and in many cases it is not.
Then we have the second group who by choice have decided to devote their lives to warfare. In a society that does not pressure it's citizens to serve through honor alone these are some of the fiercest warriors. Even their loyalties lie not with their government, god, or any individual, but to the principles the federation is founded on.
One can argue whether an all volunteer force is inherently inferior, but having a few dedicated and devoted individuals who come by choice than a mass of brainwashed conscripts makes it easier to give more resources to each individual, and making it unnecessary to throw away lives needlessly.
With that said our diverse culture does sometimes give forth some terrible people and heinous acts, but at least we don't institutionalize it. It is not a matter of them being inferior as soldier, but lacking a unified purpose. No disagreement here. Inferiority in my post is in regards to motivation, not skill or power.
Skill and power are meaningless. Only that purpose you inherently serve. If your purpose is to die then take solace in fulfilling your duty.
Duty is its own reward. There is no nobler way to die for than than in the service of God.
This is why our soldiers are superior to those of the other Empires. True soldier of the Amarr are possessed of a divine purpose.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9187
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Posted - 2014.04.02 03:56:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:Never forget Nouvelle Rouvenor. We retaliated after the destruction of an entire city. If our citizens could not be safe under the protection of the Caldari then we were going to step in to ensure their safety ourselves. Many innocents were caught in the crossfire on both sides and our governments actions at the time may have been extreme, but that is the nature of democracy. Our federation follows the will of the people it represents, not an emperor, a ceo, or elder, our people demanded blood for blood and they got it.
This thread was not intended to highlight politics, it was intended to find out if anyone had a source on any good tales.
Indeed you went to war because of the actions of a radical group of terrorists not directly affiliated with the Caldari governing body........
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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