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Altina McAlterson Pure Innocence. EoN. 828	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:42:00 - [31] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: That just sounds like generic copy-paste from EVE. We don't have licensees for Dust, but EVE accounts do. All software has a license unless it is in the public domain. It's just that the license for DUST is free. devonus durga wrote: Hmmm... anyone else feel this is a bad sign? I mean its open to interpretation till it gets clarified, but reading the whole must license for each account thing... idk why need to license a game to each individual account for a free game, makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up, they gonna make us pay? Or is it a licensing issue with public gaming locations, like the old computer cafes. Not a huge problem in the us but maybe over seas? Don't read too much in to it. Software licenses have to specify the number of users/accounts/whatever they are licensing. CCP just went the safe route and picked one to prevent any sort of shenanigans. I'm only guessing of course but I don't think CCP is going to try and enforce this and is just done to dot the i's and cross the t's. Good Advice Grey 17 should have stayed missing.
Paul Peacemaker Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 7	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:42:00 - [32] - Quote In this case I'd like some answers. There's no license for Dust, therefore how does this rule apply? Or perhaps it technically does have one, but then how could I get multiple licenses on the same console? My friends don't have ps3s so I am taking care of their accounts until they purchase the consoles. I log onto their chars every day for the SP bonus and I play on one of them from time to time. Will I get penalized for this? Should I stop? I need to know before I get a few accounts banned I find this rule a pile of crap. What if somebody's actually sharing a console with a partner,friend or a flatmate?
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 4421	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:43:00 - [33] - Quote devonus durga wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: Or sell them. Any one want a pre constructed murderlogi. 10 mil SP. cores are not maxed but getting close The only way to get someone to buy it is if it's specced into the fotm. Tank pilot for sale!! 50 million ISK! And plus, if they can do all this with Eve, why can't we do it? Because eve players pay real money for their accounts, means they have invested real money and time for whatever their account/toon has. We theoreticly only have to invest time. Time is money. /thread Winner of at least 11 King ThunderBolt hate videos :D
Eko Sol 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 79	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:43:00 - [34] - Quote So what creates the license? Is it on download or on install and sync? Sigh, did a lawyer right this or did someone translate something from 1997?
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 197	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:44:00 - [35] - Quote Eko Sol wrote: So what creates the license? Is it on download or on install and sync? Sigh, did a lawyer right this or did someone translate something from 1997? Perhaps it was that economist. I am the real Darken
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 197	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:46:00 - [36] - Quote Paul Peacemaker wrote: In this case I'd like some answers. There's no license for Dust, therefore how does this rule apply? Or perhaps it technically does have one, but then how could I get multiple licenses on the same console? My friends don't have ps3s so I am taking care of their accounts until they purchase the consoles. I log onto their chars every day for the SP bonus and I play on one of them from time to time. Will I get penalized for this? Should I stop? I need to know before I get a few accounts banned I find this rule a pile of crap. What if somebody's actually sharing a console with a partner,friend or a flatmate? Do you know what a EULA is? I am the real Darken
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2773	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:49:00 - [37] - Quote Perhaps they are preparing for the eventuality of character farms in the event that DUST becomes popular some day? You could build a pretty big operation with next to no personnel cost because you don't need active SP. Just "plant" a few thousand characters and let them grow with passive for a few years before harvesting them. It's just like a tree farm.
Teilka Darkmist 149	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:50:00 - [38] - Quote Eko Sol wrote: So what creates the license? Is it on download or on install and sync? Sigh, did a lawyer right this or did someone translate something from 1997? I thnk a lawyer is about the only type of person who could write a EULA, understand it, and make it both specific enough to cover CCP's ass and vague enough that it leaves them some wiggleroom. When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
Altina McAlterson Pure Innocence. EoN. 828	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:50:00 - [39] - Quote Eko Sol wrote: So what creates the license? Is it on download or on install and sync? Sigh, did a lawyer right this or did someone translate something from 1997? Here you go: EULA wrote: Upon establishing a valid Account, and subject to your continued compliance with the EULA, CCP grants you a limited, non-exclusive, revocable license to access the System, and to access and use the Game Content, User Content and EVE User Content (each as defined below), in order to play DUST 514. You may download and exchange Game Content, User Content and EVE User Content exclusively via a valid Account, solely to play the Game, for purposes permitted by, and in a manner consistent with, the EULA. Additionally and to the extent permitted by the System, you may make a single copy for your own purposes in playing the Game. It said one account per license, not one account per system. Good Advice Grey 17 should have stayed missing.
Marc Rime 236	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:53:00 - [40] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: It looks like we can sell our characters now. From what I read CCP is washing their hands of any responsibilities associated with player transactions. Furthermore its states you can have only 1 charecter per downloaded copy of dust? How does that work for alts? or toons made online? discuss Hasn't that stuff always been there?

Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 199	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:55:00 - [41] - Quote Marc Rime wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: It looks like we can sell our characters now. From what I read CCP is washing their hands of any responsibilities associated with player transactions. Furthermore its states you can have only 1 charecter per downloaded copy of dust? How does that work for alts? or toons made online? discuss Hasn't that stuff always been there? It was a bannable offense before. now they dont seem to want to police it. I am the real Darken
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 199	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:56:00 - [42] - Quote Altina McAlterson wrote: Eko Sol wrote: So what creates the license? Is it on download or on install and sync? Sigh, did a lawyer right this or did someone translate something from 1997? Here you go: EULA wrote: Upon establishing a valid Account, and subject to your continued compliance with the EULA, CCP grants you a limited, non-exclusive, revocable license to access the System, and to access and use the Game Content, User Content and EVE User Content (each as defined below), in order to play DUST 514. You may download and exchange Game Content, User Content and EVE User Content exclusively via a valid Account, solely to play the Game, for purposes permitted by, and in a manner consistent with, the EULA. Additionally and to the extent permitted by the System, you may make a single copy for your own purposes in playing the Game. It said one account per license, not one account per system. It said one account per downloaded copy. I am the real Darken
Teilka Darkmist 149	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:56:00 - [43] - Quote Altina McAlterson wrote: Eko Sol wrote: So what creates the license? Is it on download or on install and sync? Sigh, did a lawyer right this or did someone translate something from 1997? Here you go: EULA wrote: Upon establishing a valid Account, and subject to your continued compliance with the EULA, CCP grants you a limited, non-exclusive, revocable license to access the System, and to access and use the Game Content, User Content and EVE User Content (each as defined below), in order to play DUST 514. You may download and exchange Game Content, User Content and EVE User Content exclusively via a valid Account, solely to play the Game, for purposes permitted by, and in a manner consistent with, the EULA. Additionally and to the extent permitted by the System, you may make a single copy for your own purposes in playing the Game. It said one account per license, not one account per system. And you get a licence by creating an account if I'm reading it right. Isn't that kind of circular? When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
Kharga Lum Arcana Imperii Ltd. Northern Army. 269	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:57:00 - [44] - Quote If they're allowing the sale of characters is there a method of doing this?
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 200	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:59:00 - [45] - Quote Kharga Lum wrote: If they're allowing the sale of characters is there a method of doing this? yes it involves dark alleys I am the real Darken
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 4425	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:01:00 - [46] - Quote Kharga Lum wrote: If they're allowing the sale of characters is there a method of doing this? Make character. Give it qualities people want. Sell the entire PSN for ISK (I'm guessing the exchange of the email and password would be necessary too). Profit. Is there an easier way of doing this? Is what I just described only an over complicated process? Winner of at least 11 King ThunderBolt hate videos :D
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 200	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:03:00 - [47] - Quote One tanker for sale: has recruit BPOs. 3mil sp. KD 3+ I am the real Darken
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 62	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:03:00 - [48] - Quote Unlike most of you drooling baboons, I've been locked up before. I know the law, I know my rights, and I know that I don't have to read a bunch of crap some douchebag lawyer wrote up for a video game contract.
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 200	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:05:00 - [49] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Unlike most of you drooling baboons, I've been locked up before. I know the law, I know my rights, and I know that I don't have to read a bunch of crap some douchebag lawyer wrote up for a video game contract. What are your rights if i may ask? I am the real Darken
Altina McAlterson Pure Innocence. EoN. 829	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:07:00 - [50] - Quote Teilka Darkmist wrote: And you get a licence by creating an account if I'm reading it right. Isn't that kind of circular? When you create an account you get a license that allows one account to play the game. Makes perfect sense. Good Advice Grey 17 should have stayed missing.

DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3708	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:08:00 - [51] - Quote It states you can have multiple characters per account, so your alts are safe. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3708	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:14:00 - [52] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Unlike most of you drooling baboons, I've been locked up before. I know the law, I know my rights, and I know that I don't have to read a bunch of crap some douchebag lawyer wrote up for a video game contract. Correct, you don't have to read it. You just have to sign it. That way CCP can wash their hands of all the stated liabilities. Also you have to sign it to download the game. And if you played after the recent update, then you already signed it. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 138	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:18:00 - [53] - Quote Why does this sound like chicken little.I dont think CCP is gonna get rid of alts.If anyone is scared then the people that have not spent one wooden nickle on the game should be afraid other than that if you've spent anything on a account they wont delete it. Also this bs about selling accounts for real cash is stupid as hell.If a person did sit on thousands of accounts which is impossible because the PS3 only lets you have 6.SO that's dumb you'd have to buy 150 plus PS#'s and this game or its characters would not make back that investment. Hypothetically well say you have some old BPO"S on this alt. That this person is trying to sell. Who cares?You only have one that can passive sp gain the others just sit there doing nothing.So we'll say it has 20 million sp.Again who cares.There'll be new content by then . I dont worry about the EULA I got sucked into this BS last time when people started freaking out about BPO removal and the only thing I really got out of that is.Some people want to make money off something somebody else created.You see Im not on that **.It's those types of assholes that make these EULA"S necessary If a person's intent is to make a buck off someone's work then you should be scared.Because its criminal.Its called piracy and plagiarism. If you bought anything for this game I dont see CCP taking anything from you so stop with the fucken agnst. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute** Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 964	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:19:00 - [54] - Quote afaik that's been there all the time - unlikely that it would be enforced unless you use your accounts to abuse the system. so ccp would be covered if they at some point decide to ban your 1000 passive sp earning accounts. DUSTBoard DUSTSearch DUST Server Status

Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1009	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:21:00 - [55] - Quote CCP wouldn't want to get rid of alts and potentially more Aurum sales to do with said account. Wouldn't be consistent with their history.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 138	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:22:00 - [56] - Quote Bethhy wrote: CCP wouldn't want to get rid of alts and potentially more Aurum sales to do with said account. Wouldn't be consistent with their history. Amen... Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Teilka Darkmist 151	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:53:00 - [57] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Unlike most of you drooling baboons, I've been locked up before. I know the law, I know my rights, and I know that I don't have to read a bunch of crap some douchebag lawyer wrote up for a video game contract. Well, it seems like at some point you didn't know the law too well or you wouldn't have been locked up now would you? Either that or you knew the law and still broke it then got caught. Now, I wonder which one of us is the more intelligent...... Altina McAlterson wrote: Teilka Darkmist wrote: And you get a licence by creating an account if I'm reading it right. Isn't that kind of circular? When you create an account you get a license that allows one account to play the game. Makes perfect sense. The circular part is you get a licence by making an account and you can only have one account per licence. I didn't say it didn't make sense, just that it was circular. When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
Paul Peacemaker Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 7	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:57:00 - [58] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: Paul Peacemaker wrote: In this case I'd like some answers. There's no license for Dust, therefore how does this rule apply? Or perhaps it technically does have one, but then how could I get multiple licenses on the same console? My friends don't have ps3s so I am taking care of their accounts until they purchase the consoles. I log onto their chars every day for the SP bonus and I play on one of them from time to time. Will I get penalized for this? Should I stop? I need to know before I get a few accounts banned I find this rule a pile of crap. What if somebody's actually sharing a console with a partner,friend or a flatmate? Do you know what a EULA is? Thank you for a useful answer.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3028	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:58:00 - [59] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: I didn't read it. I'm a rebel. or a moron. never sign something you have not read. Statutory rights baby. No.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 408	Posted - 2014.01.29 23:00:00 - [60] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: It looks like we can sell our characters now. From what I read CCP is washing their hands of any responsibilities associated with player transactions. Furthermore its states you can have only 1 charecter per downloaded copy of dust? How does that work for alts? or toons made online? discuss they always said no alts, they dont really care about alts, its just so people cant spam create a 1000 characters and take up all the good names or just make them to collect passive sp and sell a year later but otherwise they wont care Proud Christian one of the most essential parts of eve is left out of dust: freedom, exploration, open-world gameplay.



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