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Altina McAlterson
Pure Innocence. EoN.
830
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Posted - 2014.01.29 23:00:00 -
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Teilka Darkmist wrote:bamboo x wrote:Unlike most of you drooling baboons, I've been locked up before.
I know the law, I know my rights, and I know that I don't have to read a bunch of crap some douchebag lawyer wrote up for a video game contract. Well, it seems like at some point you didn't know the law too well or you wouldn't have been locked up now would you? Either that or you knew the law and still broke it then got caught. Now, I wonder which one of us is the more intelligent...... Altina McAlterson wrote:Teilka Darkmist wrote: And you get a licence by creating an account if I'm reading it right. Isn't that kind of circular?
When you create an account you get a license that allows one account to play the game. Makes perfect sense. The circular part is you get a licence by making an account and you can only have one account per licence. I didn't say it didn't make sense, just that it was circular. Yea, it is. But you have to get the license somehow and that's the best way. Otherwise you'd have to contact CCP everytime and screw that noise.
Contracts and legal nonsense are inherently silly anyway.
Good Advice
Grey 17 should have stayed missing.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
1906
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Posted - 2014.01.29 23:28:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:It looks like we can sell our characters now. From what I read CCP is washing their hands of any responsibilities associated with player transactions. Furthermore its states you can have only 1 charecter per downloaded copy of dust? How does that work for alts? or toons made online? discuss They probably realized that you can make an alt - transfer the starting ISK to main - rinse repeat. Why would you do that?! 250,000 ISK can be earned so much easier. Additionally, Playstation's EULA only allows users up to six accounts. Sure you could biomass and rotate those six accounts every 10 hours, but I don't have the persistence to do that.
Edit: Well, technically that's 4,500,000 ISK every 10 hours....so....have fun. Entropia Universe is this way.
McDonell Miller Explains the Dust Challenge Lottery Protocol
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Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES
203
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Posted - 2014.01.29 23:30:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:It looks like we can sell our characters now. From what I read CCP is washing their hands of any responsibilities associated with player transactions. Furthermore its states you can have only 1 charecter per downloaded copy of dust? How does that work for alts? or toons made online? discuss They probably realized that you can make an alt - transfer the starting ISK to main - rinse repeat. Why would you do that?! 250,000 ISK can be earned so much easier. Additionally, Playstation's EULA only allows users up to six accounts. Sure you could biomass and rotate those six accounts every 10 hours, but I don't have the persistence to do that.
I got 4 ps3s at home. I have 9 on my newest ps3. thats weird
I am the real Darken
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
1906
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Posted - 2014.01.29 23:35:00 -
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It appears I misread that.
PSN Terms of Service wrote:There are two types of accounts: Master Accounts and Sub Accounts. All accounts have an associated mailbox for receiving electronic text mail. If you have reached the legal age of majority, you can create a Master Account for yourself. Where available, each Master Account can create up to six (6) associated Sub Accounts. You are not permitted to create Sub Accounts for adults or persons under the legal age of majority who are not your children or for whom you are not the legal guardian. Your children must be of a certain age in order to have a Sub Account. Sub Accounts may not be available in all countries. Deletion or termination of a Master Account may result in the deletion and termination of all associated Sub Accounts.
A Master Account has access to and control over the following aspects of its Sub Accounts: (i) financial aspects; (ii) content availability and (iii) certain communication features. Text mail from SNEI that relates to a Sub Account's purchases will be sent to the mailbox of the associated Master Account. At its sole discretion, SNEI may send text mail to the Master Account relating to the Sub Account's other activities. The Master Account holder is jointly and severally legally and financially responsible for the actions of his or her Sub Account holders.
Master Account holders select their own sign-in ID and password and select the sign-in ID and password for each associated Sub Account. SEN Account holders may be required to select their own Online ID for PSN. After signing in to your SEN Account through a compatible web browser, you may continue to be signed in for up to 60 days. You may also have access to select SEN related sites and select Third Party Services without having to sign in. This will only apply to the web browser that you used when you sign-in. All users should safeguard their sign-in ID and password to prevent use by any other user. If you sign-in to your SEN Account on a device that may be shared with others, you should ensure that you sign-out from your account at the end of each session. If you do not sign-out, others may be able to access your SEN Account and perform actions on your behalf without knowing your password. Certain information, which may include the Online ID, real name, profile photo, "About Me" statement, avatar pictures, country/area of residence, preferred language and recently played game titles, may be provided to all SEN First Party Service users, including children. SNEI has no liability for any unauthorized usage of any account.
McDonell Miller Explains the Dust Challenge Lottery Protocol
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Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
3828
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Posted - 2014.01.29 23:36:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:I didn't read it.
I'm a rebel. Human cent-Ipad
I am your scan error.
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sabre prime
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
56
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Posted - 2014.01.29 23:37:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:Teilka Darkmist wrote: Then you have to re-license Dust for each account. No idea how the hell you'd do that though.
Or sell them. Any one want a pre constructed murderlogi. 10 mil SP. cores are not maxed but getting close
Damn, I had an idea about giving away free clones to the community or new players in the future. Damn, damn, damn.
However, I should have set the plan in motion a long time ago.
Desperate attempt to get BPOs
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
2937
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Posted - 2014.01.30 00:01:00 -
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I read it and I'm pretty sure it said you were not allowed to do it and attempts to do so are at your risk. For instance if CCP discovered you sold a character to someone they would probably delete that character and not be liable to enforce or give any refunds for that character
What has me curious the last time I read it and this time is that in order to play dust you must pay any fines due and initially I thought paying off aurum but the credit card companies do that anyways, CCP gets paid regardless if you are late on payments so I think it's their loophole for throwing in server fees.
Rifle Changes: DPS, range, and damage
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sabre prime
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
57
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Posted - 2014.01.30 00:04:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:I read it and I'm pretty sure it said you were not allowed to do it and attempts to do so are at your risk. For instance if CCP discovered you sold a character to someone they would probably delete that character and not be liable to enforce or give any refunds for that character
What has me curious the last time I read it and this time is that in order to play dust you must pay any fines due and initially I thought paying off aurum but the credit card companies do that anyways, CCP gets paid regardless if you are late on payments so I think it's their loophole for throwing in server fees.
Personally, I'm not talking about 'selling' clones. I actually want to give away free mercenary clone soldiers. I saw it as part of the meta game.
I was going to call my enterprise the 'New Eden Clone Services'. We even would have offered NECS day delivery.
EDIT: NECS (TM). Phew...
Desperate attempt to get BPOs
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
2938
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Posted - 2014.01.30 00:11:00 -
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sabre prime wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:I read it and I'm pretty sure it said you were not allowed to do it and attempts to do so are at your risk. For instance if CCP discovered you sold a character to someone they would probably delete that character and not be liable to enforce or give any refunds for that character
What has me curious the last time I read it and this time is that in order to play dust you must pay any fines due and initially I thought paying off aurum but the credit card companies do that anyways, CCP gets paid regardless if you are late on payments so I think it's their loophole for throwing in server fees. Personally, I'm not talking about 'selling' clones. I actually want to give away free mercenary clone soldiers. I saw it as part of the meta game. I was going to call my enterprise the 'New Eden Clone Services'. We even would have offered NECS day delivery. EDIT: NECS (TM). Phew... I was responding to OP not whatever tangent has been created in 4 pagess
Rifle Changes: DPS, range, and damage
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Kane Fyea
2576
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Posted - 2014.01.30 00:17:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:I'd like to see them try to enforce the part about multiple accounts. Famous last words. Personally I reccomend biomassing all of your less wanted salt accounts. CCP isn't going to know which account to ban and which not too. Also its easy, your ps3 has an IP too. Which can be changed extremely easily. Seriously it take all of 5 minutes to change. |
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
1906
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Posted - 2014.01.30 00:19:00 -
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sabre prime wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:I read it and I'm pretty sure it said you were not allowed to do it and attempts to do so are at your risk. For instance if CCP discovered you sold a character to someone they would probably delete that character and not be liable to enforce or give any refunds for that character
What has me curious the last time I read it and this time is that in order to play dust you must pay any fines due and initially I thought paying off aurum but the credit card companies do that anyways, CCP gets paid regardless if you are late on payments so I think it's their loophole for throwing in server fees. Personally, I'm not talking about 'selling' clones. I actually want to give away free mercenary clone soldiers. I saw it as part of the meta game. I was going to call my enterprise the 'New Eden Clone Services'. We even would have offered NECS day delivery. EDIT: NECS (TM). Phew...
If CCP created a marketplace function where you can exchange or purchase characters within the game economy I would certainly be on board with that. However, as it stands any transfer of accounts, regardless of monetary reimbursement, is against Sony's terms of service.
Sony ToS wrote:You may not sell, buy, trade, or otherwise transfer your Online ID, SEN Account or any personal access to SEN through any means or method, including by use of web sites.
McDonell Miller Explains the Dust Challenge Lottery Protocol
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1004
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Posted - 2014.01.30 00:21:00 -
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I stopped reading when soul rights were first mentioned.
FEEDBACK: Analysis on 1.7 tank functionality
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
498
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Posted - 2014.01.30 00:24:00 -
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Okay, limit my accounts. If ever I decided to spend anther dime on this game they'd get that much less.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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Lonegnr
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
59
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Posted - 2014.01.30 00:30:00 -
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So much QQ for such a silly topic. Unless CCP puts in a legitimate way to sell your character in a manner similar to Eve's character's bazaar, selling your account will ALWAYS put you at risk because the PSN EULA already prohibits you from selling the account. |
Rusty Shallows
927
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Posted - 2014.01.30 00:50:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:I'd like to see them try to enforce the part about multiple accounts. Famous last words. Personally I reccomend biomassing all of your less wanted salt accounts. CCP isn't going to know which account to ban and which not too. Also its easy, your ps3 has an IP too. Unless the IP is assigned dynamically by your ISP.
Also multiple PS3s at the same location will externally appear to have the same IP if using the same router home, hotel, apartment complex with wi-fi, etc connects them. I don't think there is a way for outside sources to review the router's assigned devices. Could be wrong about that except IP addresses were developed for helping move data packets and not as a means of personal identification.
Or think of it another way. Your PS3 will always have a different IP when connecting through different networks.
I'm in agreement with everyone else in this thread who say it is for legal protections.
Here, have some candy and a Like. :-)
Forums > Game
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Ripcord19981
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising
390
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Posted - 2014.01.30 00:59:00 -
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i have a brother playing on another account. How do u reliscense the game?
I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either.
Turkey sammich>taco
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PLAYSTTION
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
25
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Posted - 2014.01.30 01:08:00 -
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But my brother needs his own passive booster cause i hog it on my account. CCP this is unfair.
-Open Beta Vet-12.3 mil sp-
Dust 514 recruitment link here
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
156
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Posted - 2014.01.30 01:27:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:I take it everyone signed without reading. They could effectively ban alts. o no's, i will become a human centipad!
but people make alts on multiple psn's because passive sp
2 exiles assault rifles,
Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter militia frame,
Templar set
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Espartoi
Zero-Day Attack Zero-Day
76
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Posted - 2014.01.30 01:57:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:True Adamance wrote:Cat Merc wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:I didn't read it.
I'm a rebel. So am I.... I have nothing witty to add. I ARE.... EMPEROR OF CATKIND! Absolutely not. I am the emperor of humans anyway, so you're still under my control.
You don't look like the Emperor of Catkind, you are a blasphemer i will declare an exterminatus.
Dying must be buffed.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
2662
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Posted - 2014.01.30 02:43:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:It looks like we can sell our characters now. From what I read CCP is washing their hands of any responsibilities associated with player transactions. Furthermore its states you can have only 1 charecter per downloaded copy of dust? How does that work for alts? or toons made online? discuss They probably realized that you can make an alt - transfer the starting ISK to main - rinse repeat.
And probably only there to go after people bio massing characters for ISK.
It's crazy to me that people would do this instead of just playing the game. That this is even a concern says all you need to hear about the need for increasing payouts in pubs.
ML Director
Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
626
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Posted - 2014.01.30 02:51:00 -
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Didn't read it, but from this little conversation here I am not paranoid about deletion of alt accounts I'm excited for the EULA seeming to bring us closer to the reality of item trading and thus open market!!!
Anyone have thoughts on how much a toxin smg, dragonfly scout, and Exile AR BPOs should go for?
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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excillon
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
196
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Posted - 2014.01.30 03:13:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:no one reads the eula i think they count on that. by by BPOs. No...I think not. Pack bpos were bought through ps store and were advertised by sony as never running out. Sony would be all over ccp when people started filing complaints. jk
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