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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
99
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Posted - 2014.01.27 01:45:00 -
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Teilka Darkmist wrote:NK Scout wrote:Scout Registry wrote:NK Scout wrote:
Sniper rifles suck so bad even the charge cant kill them sometimes
Sniper Rifles certainly need love. I very much agree with you on that point. Though I wouldn't consider Academy-based experimentation reliable. They suck so bad, a proto sniper couldnt 1 hita starter fit, thats proof they suck badly, they also need more zoom as it isnt enouh Also hit detection fixes It takes a heavy starter suit to survive a hit from a fully charged charge sniper rifle. I don't have a problem with that personally. Or it takes the bad hit detection that every sniper knows we have from bitter experience.
Sometimes they wouldnt die but lose 90% hp, thats wrong
2 exiles assault rifles,
Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter militia frame,
Templar set
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Leonid Tybalt
Dark Knightz Corp.
201
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Posted - 2014.01.27 01:45:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:You should feel bad for killing new players. Thanks for potentially driving away our new player base.
Yeah you know like Counter Strike totally lost it's playerbase back in the days everytime a noob got sniped by someone with +ñn awp or scout rifle.  |
NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
99
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Posted - 2014.01.27 01:46:00 -
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danthrax martin wrote:Ive made millions of sp with basic tac...
Lol the tac
Hit detection isnt good enough for it, clip size is too small, its weak, rof doesnt help
2 exiles assault rifles,
Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter militia frame,
Templar set
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
103
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Posted - 2014.01.27 01:49:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:NK Scout wrote:Scout Registry wrote:NK Scout wrote:
Sniper rifles suck so bad even the charge cant kill them sometimes
Sniper Rifles certainly need love. I very much agree with you on that point. Though I wouldn't consider Academy-based experimentation reliable. They suck so bad, a proto sniper couldnt 1 hita starter fit, thats proof they suck badly, they also need more zoom as it isnt enouh Also hit detection fixes Hit Detection / Target Tracking are crap, IMO. A Proto SR requiring 2+ headshots is crap, IMO. But then again, I'm no expert on Sniping. I'd very much be interested in hearing what Tyjus Vacca, Keeriam Miray, Kodho, Appia Vibbia, Sleepy Zan and others have to say on the subject. :: Rings Gong ::
:: Unrings Gong; Suspects Troll :: I am no fan of cowardice in any form. Be it Slayer Logi, Tank or Redline Sniper. But I think it'd be nice if the Sniper Rifle felt and performed like a Sniper Rifle.
2 exiles assault rifles,
Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter militia frame,
Templar set
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danthrax martin
Butcher's Nails
34
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Posted - 2014.01.27 01:54:00 -
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Man who need bigger clip need better aim? 
Adv. Commando, AR / swarm
Adv. Sentinel, AR / HMG
"I need More Ammo!!!"....."Medic!"
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
1554
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Posted - 2014.01.27 01:55:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:You should feel bad for killing new players. Thanks for potentially driving away our new player base.
This kind of people deserves protostomping.
Tank 514.
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
103
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Posted - 2014.01.27 01:55:00 -
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danthrax martin wrote:Man who need bigger clip need better aim?
My regular sniper does more dps
2 exiles assault rifles,
Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter militia frame,
Templar set
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
1554
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Posted - 2014.01.27 01:58:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:NK Scout wrote:
Sniper rifles suck so bad even the charge cant kill them sometimes
Sniper Rifles certainly need love. I very much agree with you on that point. Though I wouldn't consider Academy-based experimentation either a reliable or convincing means of proving this point.
w-wait, so that thing that leaves me with 100 armor dragging me to hell need love? Come on! It's a point and click weapon! there's not even a proper falloff and/or travel time (yes, I know there is, but it's insanely high)
Tank 514.
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Scott Knight
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.01.27 02:05:00 -
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When I made my alt, I certainly did more damage than he did with his charge sniper. And that was using 100% starter gear. |
NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
106
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Posted - 2014.01.27 02:08:00 -
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Scott Knight wrote:When I made my alt, I certainly did more damage than he did with his charge sniper. And that was using 100% starter gear.
Sometimes they would not die...
2 exiles assault rifles,
Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter militia frame,
Templar set
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Keeriam Miray
R 0 N 1 N
294
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Posted - 2014.01.27 12:53:00 -
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Ability to OHK or kill target, depends on % of shields from total amount of HP.
Railgun damage profile is -10% to shields & +10% to armor
bodyshot (x1) 90% to shields & 110% to armor
headshot (x1.95) 175% to shields & 214% to armor
If base dmg 320 (charge), then:
shield headshot = 560
shield bodyshot = 288 + 288 = 576 > 560
armor headshot = 684
armor bodyshot = 352 + 352 = 704 > 684
2 body shots is more powerfull than 1 headshot, because of racial damage profiles + headshot multiplier
Thats why we see alot bricktanked redline campers that play point & click game with officer SR, dps is huge, you don't need to aim for the head.
without skills & mods
320 (charge, 28 rpm) dps 150
195 (proto tac sr, 100 rpm) dps 325!
230 (proto sr, 50 rpm) dps 190
355 (tar-07, 50 rpm) dps 295
proto tac 585 dmg in 1.2 sec (3 shots)
proto regular 460 dmg in 1.2 sec (2 shots)
If you can't sountersnipe someone with Kaalakiota, you definitely won't kill it even with TAR-07. Something like proto heavy or Sentinel suits is impossible to countersnipe 1 on 1 (there is no powerfull enough SR in game to do that), basic heavy suit is harder to kill because of larger amounts of shields he can have.
GODMODE:
proto Heavy with TAR-07 - 745 shields & 1045 armor
proto Sentinel with TAR-07 - 673 shields & 1194 armor
Same goes to proto logissaults, gallente suits is easier to kill because they are armor based, caldari or minmater can survive headshot.
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NK Scout
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
108
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Posted - 2014.01.27 12:56:00 -
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my charge should 1hk all medium std suits, maybe adv too if armor
2 exiles assault rifles,
Skinweave caldari frame,
Staff recruiter militia frame,
Templar set
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Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1114
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Posted - 2014.01.27 13:04:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:my charge should 1hk all medium std suits, maybe adv too if armor
Hell no it shouldn't! Tell me something...do you want your kills just handed to you BEFORE the match to save you the trouble of even logging in?
SMDH.
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
Amarr Victor
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Ironyimation Inception
Ancient Erectiles
69
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Posted - 2014.01.27 13:19:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:NK Scout wrote:my charge should 1hk all medium std suits, maybe adv too if armor Hell no it shouldn't! Tell me something...do you want your kills just handed to you BEFORE the match to save you the trouble of even logging in? SMDH.
My Thale with proficiency 5 and 2 complex damage mods on a heavy says "hi". |
Kodho
R 0 N 1 N
43
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Posted - 2014.01.27 15:03:00 -
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Here's my 2 cents worth: hit detection sucks. I can hit someone and they take no damage (visual confirmation of shield flash). I used to be able to take out most suits with two quick shots with any of the proto tac sr's. It is now much harder because of poor hit detection, tanked out fits that are impossible to take out with low damage tax sr's, increased speed of the merc you are firing at. The other issue is rendering. You can lead someone perfectly, only to have them disappear right before they get in you cross hairs. Then they reappear five metes past you line of fire. Before any changes to damage we need to fix these issues and see where we stand.
Long Live the Scout!
Kodho
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2102
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Posted - 2014.01.27 15:41:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:And when fully charged I killed 92% of my targets, also had many kills where right when the weapon was charged, I would get a kill then as soon as its charged I would kill again.
Also tried the ishikone sniper rifle
If I have to use the charge sniper to ohk people most of the time, its just sad, snipers need more zoom and damage
I had a thales in the academy on an alt saturday... I love that thing... 47-0 I'm the real ******* went through 12 pubs until I lost them all but made a good profit.
Snipers aren't THAT bad.
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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Cpl Foster USMC
South Carolina Dusties
533
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Posted - 2014.01.27 15:50:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:You should feel bad for killing new players. Thanks for potentially driving away our new player base.
if we had a place to test stuff we wouldn't have to go into the Academy to do stuff like this....
South Carolina anyone..???..hello...???...anyone in SC play this shit..?!?!?..
No...?...guess I must be special then...
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Sentient Archon
1443
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Posted - 2014.01.27 15:53:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:And when fully charged I killed 92% of my targets, also had many kills where right when the weapon was charged, I would get a kill then as soon as its charged I would kill again.
Also tried the ishikone sniper rifle
If I have to use the charge sniper to ohk people most of the time, its just sad, snipers need more zoom and damage
LOL no! Snipers if anything need their zoom nerfed. If it takes me 20 seconds in a DS just to get to a sniper in the red zone you have way too much zoom.
Once all snipers hop out of the red zone and start sniping we can have this discussion about zoom.
The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
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Sentient Archon
1443
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Posted - 2014.01.27 15:57:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:Scout Registry wrote:* You used a proto weapon in the Academy.
* Outside the Academy, a Heavy requires 2-3 headshots from a Charged SR .
* 92% of all Academy targets also die to in one shot to the underpowered Shotgun.
What's your point, exactly?
Sniper rifles suck so bad even the charge cant kill them sometimes
Sorry dude... If you can kill starter kits with one single shot either you dont know how to configure your suit or you just suck at sniping. I recommend trying to focus on your loadouts or just getting good.
#RedLineSniper #RedLineScrub #LOLTester #Scrub
The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
849
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Posted - 2014.01.27 16:40:00 -
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Kinda seems like this post is asking for a buff to sniper rifles.
If that is the case then, no.
Sniping is very easy in this game.. no bullet drop, crosshairs turn red when you are on your target, minimal foliage or terrain for people to hide behind (lots of wide open spaces) pretty much every map is a bowl with elevated positions all over the place, etc etc etc.
Just... no. |
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Sleepy Zan
Programus
2937
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Posted - 2014.01.27 16:55:00 -
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Solution: Thales
Alt Solution: Quiet sniping and give me your Thales
A real sniper doesn't provide battlefield intelligence, a real sniper leaves no intelligence left on the battlefield.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2993
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Posted - 2014.01.27 17:03:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:You should try Militia Tanks in the academy, I went 46-0 with it and never took more than 1,000 damage at any given point :|
CCP, if noobs like that are thrown into public matches with people like Nyain San, you should realize that you need to increase the WP it takes to get out of there.
We don't need an academy. We need a militia mode.
No.
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Supra Advyn
Nos Nothi
40
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Posted - 2014.01.27 17:09:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Kinda seems like this post is asking for a buff to sniper rifles.
If that is the case then, no.
Sniping is very easy in this game.. no bullet drop, crosshairs turn red when you are on your target, minimal foliage or terrain for people to hide behind (lots of wide open spaces) pretty much every map is a bowl with elevated positions all over the place, etc etc etc.
Just... no.
that could be applied to many weapons in Dust.
just because crosshairs turn red, not means it will be a kill,
Hit detection is sparing, one out of 5(?) you might get a kill.
depends if the CCP gratitudous hit detection random button is deployed or not.
Sleepy Zan wrote:Solution: Thales
Sure, that be great, but, A thales is not offered, it is given.
I would not mind a few myself, but alas, the salvage random sycho generator of thales has been avoiding me.
If you have to label it as buff, so be it.
Hit detection back to what it was pre 1.6 at the least.
Scopes
and my wish list of some new snazzy rifles, like the scrambler....
aka Kahn
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Espartoi
Zero-Day Attack
Zero-Day
36
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Posted - 2014.01.27 17:15:00 -
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NK Scout wrote:And when fully charged I killed 92% of my targets, also had many kills where right when the weapon was charged, I would get a kill then as soon as its charged I would kill again.
Also tried the ishikone sniper rifle
If I have to use the charge sniper to ohk people most of the time, its just sad, snipers need more zoom and damage
I was doin't some math and i get that you kill 14.72 players... from the 16 so what happen with the 0.72 part of red ? You shust blow one arm or something?.
or its just figurative the 92%?
You think that everything must be like you want and all is unfair? the answer is simple as Deal with it or GTFO.
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Midas Fool
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
338
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Posted - 2014.01.27 17:23:00 -
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Stop f*cking with people in academy, moron.
+25 Kill Assist...+25 Kill Assist...+25 Kill Assist...NO HOW WHY
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Aramis Madrigal
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
115
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Posted - 2014.01.27 17:50:00 -
[56] - Quote
ER-Bullitt wrote:Kinda seems like this post is asking for a buff to sniper rifles. If that is the case then, no. Sniping is very easy in this game.. no bullet drop, crosshairs turn red when you are on your target, minimal foliage or terrain for people to hide behind (lots of wide open spaces) pretty much every map is a bowl with elevated positions all over the place, etc etc etc. Just... no.
Hit detection could be better, but for the most part, youGÇÖre right. IGÇÖm a good but not great sniper and I find it fairly easy to get 15-20 kills in a pub game with the occasional 30+ kill game (explano-brag?). High alpha weapons are hard to balance without either making them over powered across the board or, as is the case right now, weak at the top end. My only complaint is that PC sniping requires a Thales and I only have 8 left. |
pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7
CRONOS.
293
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Posted - 2014.01.27 17:50:00 -
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snipers are scrubs and most would be happy if they were removed from the game. hence, nobody cares if they suck.
<---cod is that way kid |
Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
4761
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Posted - 2014.01.27 17:51:00 -
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Considering my Charge SR can OHK bodyshot most Starter fits, this doesn't surprise me.
Fatal Absolution Operation - LVL 5
Fatal Absolution Pro. - LVL 5
FOTM Abuser, outta mah way Nyain San!
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
851
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Posted - 2014.01.27 17:57:00 -
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Aramis Madrigal wrote:ER-Bullitt wrote:Kinda seems like this post is asking for a buff to sniper rifles. If that is the case then, no. Sniping is very easy in this game.. no bullet drop, crosshairs turn red when you are on your target, minimal foliage or terrain for people to hide behind (lots of wide open spaces) pretty much every map is a bowl with elevated positions all over the place, etc etc etc. Just... no. Hit detection could be better, but for the most part, youGÇÖre right. IGÇÖm a good but not great sniper and I find it fairly easy to get 15-20 kills in a pub game with the occasional 30+ kill game (explano-brag?). High alpha weapons are hard to balance without either making them over powered across the board or, as is the case right now, weak at the top end. My only complaint is that PC sniping requires a Thales and I only have 8 left.
Well they are never going to implement bullet drop. They could make a change to require each shot be reloaded via a "bolt action" type of move, requiring you to come out of ADS between shots, wait another moment for your scope to steady, then fire again... might add a bit of skill needed to get consecutive shots off.
PC sniping doesn't "require" a thales imo.. thales is just a vastly superior rifle compared to every other version and makes it a lot easier to get a higher number of kills and thus become more effective at your role of slaying during a PC bout. Most other officer weapons are better than their prototype counterparts.. not lightyears ahead like the thales. Being effective in PC should certainly not "require" an officer weapon. |
Espartoi
Zero-Day Attack
Zero-Day
36
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Posted - 2014.01.27 17:59:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Considering my Charge SR can OHK bodyshot most Starter fits, this doesn't surprise me.
Hey what happen with the lighting spear?.
You think that everything must be like you want and all is unfair? the answer is simple as Deal with it or GTFO.
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