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Nirwanda Vaughns 280	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:49:00 - [1] - Quote Pretty please!! just been in a game and team got anhilliated because smart deploy just kept chucking us in the exact same spot surrounded by red dots. wish it was a rare issue but its every ambush game you hit smart deploy and it just zaps you straight to an uplink or CRU. if i wanted to f**kin spawn there i'd click on it Proto and proud!!
manboar thunder fist SAM-MIK 25	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:49:00 - [2] - Quote You should not deploy within 40m of a vehicle 1.8 will shoot my amarr logi in the face with an ion pistol then bury it under a caldari heavy. No, not alive thankfully
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 50	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:51:00 - [3] - Quote I came back from a month of not playing Dust. I read in the 1.7 updates that "smart deploy is smarter." Spawned at the very beginning of an Ambush in my Proto suit. Instantly died.
Duke Noobiam Da Short Buss Driving School 3	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:52:00 - [4] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Pretty please!! just been in a game and team got anhilliated because smart deploy just kept chucking us in the exact same spot surrounded by red dots. wish it was a rare issue but its every ambush game you hit smart deploy and it just zaps you straight to an uplink or CRU. if i wanted to f**kin spawn there i'd click on it Maybe the deployment is "smart" for the other team... When the red river runs, take the dirt road.
Teilka Darkmist 98	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:54:00 - [5] - Quote Duke Noobiam wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Pretty please!! just been in a game and team got anhilliated because smart deploy just kept chucking us in the exact same spot surrounded by red dots. wish it was a rare issue but its every ambush game you hit smart deploy and it just zaps you straight to an uplink or CRU. if i wanted to f**kin spawn there i'd click on it Maybe the deployment is "smart" for the other team... It's called smart deploy because you have to be smart to figure out how to not die when using it. When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 975	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:59:00 - [6] - Quote they have fixed and then broken in it a couple times now.
Darken-Soul Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 175	Posted - 2014.01.27 00:05:00 - [7] - Quote Why would you use smart deploy? look at where those blues are winking out of existence. That is where you will deploy. How smart is it to deploy there? I recommend bringing your own uplinks to ambush. Break away and set a fall back location. If you can't be bothered to watch your own ass, don't come crying here. If its too bad just don't deploy, it will all be over soon. I am the real Darken
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2870	Posted - 2014.01.27 00:06:00 - [8] - Quote I mean, it's annoying when you randomly spawn into reds, but if you're more than 30 seconds into the game and you're still using the random spawning... it's your own team's fault and you're most likely going to lose either way.
Akdhar Saif Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 189	Posted - 2014.01.27 00:10:00 - [9] - Quote Maybe just let us fall from and RDV circling the battlefield. We can then be spawned and we can drop wherever we like.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 52	Posted - 2014.01.27 00:19:00 - [10] - Quote Akdhar Saif wrote: Maybe just let us fall from and RDV circling the battlefield. We can then be spawned and we can drop wherever we like. This +1 Except it should be an MCC or something.

BMSTUBBY KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 633	Posted - 2014.01.27 00:20:00 - [11] - Quote It will never be better because CCP Devs are just facepalming LOL bad at Deving for FPS's. Until they ship this thing off to a proper FPS Dev it will always be $hit. Meh, F2P Lobby Shooter BattleDuty 514 Working as intended.
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 231	Posted - 2014.01.27 00:24:00 - [12] - Quote Akdhar Saif wrote: Maybe just let us fall from and RDV circling the battlefield. We can then be spawned and we can drop wherever we like. -1 Inertia damps would act like nice little signal flares telling the enemy team 'Hey look!someone spawned over here.'
Nirwanda Vaughns 284	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:02:00 - [13] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: I mean, it's annoying when you randomly spawn into reds, but if you're more than 30 seconds into the game and you're still using the random spawning... it's your own team's fault and you're most likely going to lose either way. yes and no. when reds have the uplinks covered you hope that the smart spawn will spawn you away from them that way you can get new links out of the way of the actiopn to regroup, but seeing as anyone trying to replenish new links would use smart spawn to try and spawn away from the action to place new links out you get caught in a loop until the smart spawn works and it spawns you elsewhere to replensih the links. i have my uplink suit which i try drop links all the way around the map to give better options but once links have been taken down soemtimes you just have no choice but to hit smart spawn and hope for the best Proto and proud!!
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2871	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:19:00 - [14] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Baal Roo wrote: I mean, it's annoying when you randomly spawn into reds, but if you're more than 30 seconds into the game and you're still using the random spawning... it's your own team's fault and you're most likely going to lose either way. yes and no. when reds have the uplinks covered you hope that the smart spawn will spawn you away from them that way you can get new links out of the way of the actiopn to regroup, but seeing as anyone trying to replenish new links would use smart spawn to try and spawn away from the action to place new links out you get caught in a loop until the smart spawn works and it spawns you elsewhere to replensih the links. i have my uplink suit which i try drop links all the way around the map to give better options but once links have been taken down soemtimes you just have no choice but to hit smart spawn and hope for the best At that point in the match, when they've pushed through your defenses and gotten to your uplinks, the game is pretty much over anyway. Unless you're not working as a squad to keep your spawn points defended and safe, at which point see my original comment. If you're just dropping uplinks and then your team is running off like chickens with their heads cut off, you're going to have a bad time.
Nirwanda Vaughns 286	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:24:00 - [15] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Baal Roo wrote: I mean, it's annoying when you randomly spawn into reds, but if you're more than 30 seconds into the game and you're still using the random spawning... it's your own team's fault and you're most likely going to lose either way. yes and no. when reds have the uplinks covered you hope that the smart spawn will spawn you away from them that way you can get new links out of the way of the actiopn to regroup, but seeing as anyone trying to replenish new links would use smart spawn to try and spawn away from the action to place new links out you get caught in a loop until the smart spawn works and it spawns you elsewhere to replensih the links. i have my uplink suit which i try drop links all the way around the map to give better options but once links have been taken down soemtimes you just have no choice but to hit smart spawn and hope for the best At that point in the match, when they've pushed through your defenses and gotten to your uplinks, the game is pretty much over anyway. Unless you're not working as a squad to keep your spawn points defended and safe, at which point see my original comment. If you're just dropping uplinks and then your team is running off like chickens with their heads cut off, you're going to have a bad time. there are times when i've managed to get uplinks out and flanked the reds and turn the game around. it can be done if you have a good team but its just a struggle when you're fighting the game mechanics more than the reds lol Proto and proud!!
Vile Heathen Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 906	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:36:00 - [16] - Quote "Smart Deploy" is an oxymoron. I've been in one too many games where the other team gets two or three blaster tanks camping the only spawn point. I used to love soloing ambushes, but now it's just a big joke. I don't even have a problem with proto tryhards and tank stompers, but the mechanics of smart deploy is just effing terrible and ineffective. Screw that noise. Random spawns is better.
Espartoi Zero-Day Attack Zero-Day 32	Posted - 2014.01.27 04:19:00 - [17] - Quote It should be at least renamed. You think that everything must be like you want and all is unfair? the answer is simple as Deal with it or GTFO.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2871	Posted - 2014.01.27 04:20:00 - [18] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Baal Roo wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Baal Roo wrote: I mean, it's annoying when you randomly spawn into reds, but if you're more than 30 seconds into the game and you're still using the random spawning... it's your own team's fault and you're most likely going to lose either way. yes and no. when reds have the uplinks covered you hope that the smart spawn will spawn you away from them that way you can get new links out of the way of the actiopn to regroup, but seeing as anyone trying to replenish new links would use smart spawn to try and spawn away from the action to place new links out you get caught in a loop until the smart spawn works and it spawns you elsewhere to replensih the links. i have my uplink suit which i try drop links all the way around the map to give better options but once links have been taken down soemtimes you just have no choice but to hit smart spawn and hope for the best At that point in the match, when they've pushed through your defenses and gotten to your uplinks, the game is pretty much over anyway. Unless you're not working as a squad to keep your spawn points defended and safe, at which point see my original comment. If you're just dropping uplinks and then your team is running off like chickens with their heads cut off, you're going to have a bad time. there are times when i've managed to get uplinks out and flanked the reds and turn the game around. it can be done if you have a good team but its just a struggle when you're fighting the game mechanics more than the reds lol The mechanics used to be that spawning was completely random, people whined and they implented this "smart deploy" nonsense. Playing smart and using the tools provided to you as a team is not "fighting the game mechanics," you're expected to use and defend your spawn points as a squad. If you can't do that, you've lost the match, better luck next time, get good scrub, HTFU, etc, etc. Also, for the record, CCP actually tried having everyone spawn at opposite ends of the map at the start of the match, but the vocal minority of asshats here moaned and complained about it... even though it completely resolved the problem with the spawning. They didn't like "having to run so far" at the beginning. Again, the people who are mopping you up have learned how to play the game. they set an uplink, work as a squad, and protect their spawns (while taking advantage of poor play from the enemy when they don't do the same). It's pointless to whine that the "spawn of last resort" doesn't spawn you perfectly. If it did, what would be the point of having logis with uplinks in your squad? in Dust 514 you're expected to play smart, and play as a squad.
Nirwanda Vaughns 288	Posted - 2014.01.27 11:48:00 - [19] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Baal Roo wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Baal Roo wrote: I mean, it's annoying when you randomly spawn into reds, but if you're more than 30 seconds into the game and you're still using the random spawning... it's your own team's fault and you're most likely going to lose either way. yes and no. when reds have the uplinks covered you hope that the smart spawn will spawn you away from them that way you can get new links out of the way of the actiopn to regroup, but seeing as anyone trying to replenish new links would use smart spawn to try and spawn away from the action to place new links out you get caught in a loop until the smart spawn works and it spawns you elsewhere to replensih the links. i have my uplink suit which i try drop links all the way around the map to give better options but once links have been taken down soemtimes you just have no choice but to hit smart spawn and hope for the best At that point in the match, when they've pushed through your defenses and gotten to your uplinks, the game is pretty much over anyway. Unless you're not working as a squad to keep your spawn points defended and safe, at which point see my original comment. If you're just dropping uplinks and then your team is running off like chickens with their heads cut off, you're going to have a bad time. there are times when i've managed to get uplinks out and flanked the reds and turn the game around. it can be done if you have a good team but its just a struggle when you're fighting the game mechanics more than the reds lol The mechanics used to be that spawning was completely random, people whined and they implented this "smart deploy" nonsense. Playing smart and using the tools provided to you as a team is not "fighting the game mechanics," you're expected to use and defend your spawn points as a squad. If you can't do that, you've lost the match, better luck next time, get good scrub, HTFU, etc, etc. Also, for the record, CCP actually tried having everyone spawn at opposite ends of the map at the start of the match, but the vocal minority of asshats here moaned and complained about that too... even though it completely resolved the problem with the spawning. They didn't like "having to run so far" at the beginning. Again, the people who are mopping you up have learned how to play the game. they set an uplink, work as a squad, and protect their spawns (while taking advantage of poor play from the enemy when they don't do the same), when they move locations or advance on a position they move their spawn point. It's pointless to whine that the "spawn of last resort" doesn't spawn you perfectly. If it did, what would be the point of having logis with uplinks in your squad? in Dust 514 you're expected to play smart, and play as a squad. but again yes you can defend your uplinks but agan if the uplinks are gone and your only resort is the smart deploy and instead of spawning you our of danger like it was supposed to (it was 'fixed' so that it spawned you away from clusters of reds and next to clusters of greens then blues depending on situation) the trouble is its that if your blues are trapped then it keeps sending you to exactly the same spot so it gets caught into a loop of spawning next to your team which is the part which is broken. the theory behind the smart deploy is good its just the execution of it has been done badly in that it needs fine tuning so that when reds and blues are in too close a proximity it drops you in a more favorable poition the issue of automatically choosing an uplink to me just seems to be a bit of broken code. simple solution would be that smart deploy doesn't use a spawn uplink or cru as a spawn point option which i'm sure would help ease a bit of the frustration. and of course cloaks may help ease the issue of it if you can hit the cloak and run for it fast enough but just telling folk to htfu is just burying head in sand and ignoring a broken mechanic by trying to blame the team for not having enough uplinks. Proto and proud!!
The Baby Shaker Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 120	Posted - 2014.01.27 12:47:00 - [20] - Quote Last I checked uplinks cause you to lose ambushes. They are big markers that light up on scans and show those 4 enemy tanks where your entire team will spawn. You might as well put a neon sign up that says spawn camp us here. It seems every time someone starts throwing uplinks around the smart spawn has a brain fart and the team gets demolished before they can spawn in and move. I'm too drunk to taste this chicken

Andris Kronis Science For Death 27	Posted - 2014.01.27 13:20:00 - [21] - Quote It's pretty easy to fix, a grid of 9 locations, perhaps 16 on the big maps and you choose which square to be randomly dropped into. Links can help you win ambush but only if you use them the right way. And if you hold your tongue in the right position ;) .
Nirwanda Vaughns 288	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:11:00 - [22] - Quote The Baby Shaker wrote: Last I checked uplinks cause you to lose ambushes. They are big markers that light up on scans and show those 4 enemy tanks where your entire team will spawn. You might as well put a neon sign up that says spawn camp us here. It seems every time someone starts throwing uplinks around the smart spawn has a brain fart and the team gets demolished before they can spawn in and move. also why i suggested a 'black ops' Proto uplink. only has 5 spawns on it. carry 1/drop 1 but has an extremely low profile so you can use it to flank round enemy with a scout, drop the link and move a squad in because even with cloaks, as soon as a scout drops an uplink it lights up like a friggin christmas tree making the stealth aspect pretty redundant Proto and proud!!
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6013	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:15:00 - [23] - Quote Need perhaps a close, mid, and far options to spawn. If you choose close, you spawn like usual. If you choose mid, you spawn a good distance away from your team's cluster. If you choose far, you spawn somewhere on the outskirts by the redline. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
BuTtHuRtPEepZ Raging Pack of Homosapiens 208	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:20:00 - [24] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Pretty please!! just been in a game and team got anhilliated because smart deploy just kept chucking us in the exact same spot surrounded by red dots. wish it was a rare issue but its every ambush game you hit smart deploy and it just zaps you straight to an uplink or CRU. if i wanted to f**kin spawn there i'd click on it stop playing ambush
Nirwanda Vaughns 288	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:28:00 - [25] - Quote BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Pretty please!! just been in a game and team got anhilliated because smart deploy just kept chucking us in the exact same spot surrounded by red dots. wish it was a rare issue but its every ambush game you hit smart deploy and it just zaps you straight to an uplink or CRU. if i wanted to f**kin spawn there i'd click on it stop playing ambush ok, so to all the whiners on the forums complaining about heavies with rail rifles and ridiculous tank spam we shoudld say what?.............. stop playing dust? Proto and proud!!
jinn ko82 Deep Space Dangerous Logistics 1	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:41:00 - [26] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: Why would you use smart deploy? look at where those blues are winking out of existence. That is where you will deploy. How smart is it to deploy there? I recommend bringing your own uplinks to ambush. Break away and set a fall back location. If you can't be bothered to watch your own ass, don't come crying here. If its too bad just don't deploy, it will all be over soon. holy **** what a great idea!!!!! oh wait if all the beacons are used up/destroyed and you cant spawn to place more how the hell is your "suggestion" going to help......
snazzbear PiZzA DuDeS 9	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:55:00 - [27] - Quote Oi smart deploy you cheeky sonb- A few more options that spawn you at various lengths from you team cluster would be nice. Would kinda be nice. drop uplink smart deploy smarter deploy mystery spot
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 316	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:57:00 - [28] - Quote Nirwanda, That's why my first (and sometimes second and third) suits in Ambush are always uplink suits.
Darken-Soul Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 181	Posted - 2014.01.27 16:15:00 - [29] - Quote jinn ko82 wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: Why would you use smart deploy? look at where those blues are winking out of existence. That is where you will deploy. How smart is it to deploy there? I recommend bringing your own uplinks to ambush. Break away and set a fall back location. If you can't be bothered to watch your own ass, don't come crying here. If its too bad just don't deploy, it will all be over soon. holy **** what a great idea!!!!! oh wait if all the beacons are used up/destroyed and you cant spawn to place more how the hell is your "suggestion" going to help...... you are such a crybaby. I can't wait to roll you in an ambush for being a moron. In fact if you see me you had better just leave cause I will drop a stream of tanks for my team just to kill you. I am the real Darken
jinn ko82 Deep Space Dangerous Logistics 1	Posted - 2014.01.27 16:17:00 - [30] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: jinn ko82 wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: Why would you use smart deploy? look at where those blues are winking out of existence. That is where you will deploy. How smart is it to deploy there? I recommend bringing your own uplinks to ambush. Break away and set a fall back location. If you can't be bothered to watch your own ass, don't come crying here. If its too bad just don't deploy, it will all be over soon. holy **** what a great idea!!!!! oh wait if all the beacons are used up/destroyed and you cant spawn to place more how the hell is your "suggestion" going to help...... you are such a crybaby. I can't wait to roll you in an ambush for being a moron. In fact if you see me you had better just leave cause I will drop a stream of tanks for my team just to kill you. lol ok kiddo

ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 849	Posted - 2014.01.27 16:25:00 - [31] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: The mechanics used to be that spawning was completely random, people whined and they implented this "smart deploy" nonsense. Playing smart and using the tools provided to you as a team is not "fighting the game mechanics," you're expected to use and defend your spawn points as a squad. If you can't do that, you've lost the match, better luck next time, get good scrub, HTFU, etc, etc. The old mechanics were pretty broken, but by your logic, once the first set of uplinks are compromised.. then GG game over as long as the reds don't destroy the links allowing spawning to take place elsewhere on the map? What if the only uplink left is a 20 spawn count, and the reds camp it, using "smart deploy" the game will not let you spawn anywhere else.. forcing you to spawn in a camped uplink to get ass raped. And with only 50 clones in most games, those 20 clones that can and WILL get spawn camped will certainly end the game for you. Quote: Again, the people who are mopping you up have learned how to play the game. they set an uplink, work as a squad, and protect their spawns (while taking advantage of poor play from the enemy when they don't do the same), when they move locations or advance on a position they move their spawn point. It's pointless to whine that the "spawn of last resort" doesn't spawn you perfectly. If it did, what would be the point of having logis with uplinks in your squad? in Dust 514 you're expected to play smart, and play as a squad. Your posts always reek of douchebag. And I think you misspelled tank spam. So again by your logic the game is won or lost in the first minute of setting up spawn locations. That's it, game over.. if you didn't get that part right, or maybe one of your uplinks landed in a glitched part of terrain, or the game spawned you next to red dots (this still happens), or any other scenario where you simply got pushed back and all uplinks fluxed.. then your answer is just wait 10 minutes and "it will all be over soon". typical elitist attitude. Nobody here is crying or whining or asking for handouts... but when the "smart deploy" button simply picks some spawn point on the map that you could easily pick yourself, its not really adding a dynamic to the game. Deathmatch style game modes in FPS history have always had a somewhat "random" spawn ability, in addition to spawning on set positions setup by either players or fixed around the map. Dust does not... and that's bad.
Darken-Soul Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 181	Posted - 2014.01.27 16:49:00 - [32] - Quote jinn ko82 wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: jinn ko82 wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: Why would you use smart deploy? look at where those blues are winking out of existence. That is where you will deploy. How smart is it to deploy there? I recommend bringing your own uplinks to ambush. Break away and set a fall back location. If you can't be bothered to watch your own ass, don't come crying here. If its too bad just don't deploy, it will all be over soon. holy **** what a great idea!!!!! oh wait if all the beacons are used up/destroyed and you cant spawn to place more how the hell is your "suggestion" going to help...... you are such a crybaby. I can't wait to roll you in an ambush for being a moron. In fact if you see me you had better just leave cause I will drop a stream of tanks for my team just to kill you. lol ok kiddo you are the one crying. If you didn't have a problem getting rolled I doubt you would be posting here. As for me being a kid yeah am a 32 year old kid. That's why I still play vids. I am the real Darken
jinn ko82 Deep Space Dangerous Logistics 1	Posted - 2014.01.27 16:51:00 - [33] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: jinn ko82 wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: jinn ko82 wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: Why would you use smart deploy? look at where those blues are winking out of existence. That is where you will deploy. How smart is it to deploy there? I recommend bringing your own uplinks to ambush. Break away and set a fall back location. If you can't be bothered to watch your own ass, don't come crying here. If its too bad just don't deploy, it will all be over soon. holy **** what a great idea!!!!! oh wait if all the beacons are used up/destroyed and you cant spawn to place more how the hell is your "suggestion" going to help...... you are such a crybaby. I can't wait to roll you in an ambush for being a moron. In fact if you see me you had better just leave cause I will drop a stream of tanks for my team just to kill you. lol ok kiddo you are the one crying. If you didn't have a problem getting rolled I doubt you would be posting here. As for me being a kid yeah am a 32 year old kid. That's why I still play vids. i never said anyone was cryingand you are 32 years old and play games? damn......no life
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 849	Posted - 2014.01.27 17:01:00 - [34] - Quote younger than me = lolkid older than me = lolnolife same age as me = perfect... lets get married
Thumb Green Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 701	Posted - 2014.01.27 17:01:00 - [35] - Quote The Baby Shaker wrote: Last I checked uplinks cause you to lose ambushes. They are big markers that light up on scans and show those 4 enemy tanks where your entire team will spawn. You might as well put a neon sign up that says spawn camp us here. It seems every time someone starts throwing uplinks around the smart spawn has a brain fart and the team gets demolished before they can spawn in and move. Yeah, I fcking hate when people drop uplinks in ambush because they always end up being camped and the so called smart deploy has a hard on for spawning you on them. What we need for spawning is the same interface we have for OB's; move the circle around, pick an area, then be spawned somewhere inside that area. CCP: Is it the most asinine way possible to do this? Yes. Then that's how we're doing it.
Darken-Soul Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 182	Posted - 2014.01.27 17:08:00 - [36] - Quote Quote: i never said anyone was cryingand you are 32 years old and play games? damn......no life what do you want me to be doing at 32? I am the real Darken
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 102	Posted - 2014.01.27 17:15:00 - [37] - Quote I am not sure why there even is a smart deploy. All the problems mentioned about uplinks are true, but that is why they are strategic equipment. What I have seen in Ambush is much running around and purely aggressive tactics with little thought to defending positions. Isn't this just part of the strategy that people just don't like dealing with? The real problem seems, again, to be in the fact that lopsided teams make even good strategies impossible for one te to implement. If you have equal teams, one team should not be able to roll over another and camp all their spawns, if they do it was poor uplink strategy, but now one team is usually so dominant that even the best strategies fail.
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 102	Posted - 2014.01.27 17:18:00 - [38] - Quote I like the idea of stealth uplinks though, scanners see them way too easily.
Lv2spd2 Slow And Old 182	Posted - 2014.01.27 17:26:00 - [39] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: The Baby Shaker wrote: Last I checked uplinks cause you to lose ambushes. They are big markers that light up on scans and show those 4 enemy tanks where your entire team will spawn. You might as well put a neon sign up that says spawn camp us here. It seems every time someone starts throwing uplinks around the smart spawn has a brain fart and the team gets demolished before they can spawn in and move. Yeah, I fcking hate when people drop uplinks in ambush because they always end up being camped and the so called smart deploy has a hard on for spawning you on them. What we need for spawning is the same interface we have for OB's; move the circle around, pick an area, then be spawned somewhere inside that area. I think what you really hate is when links are poorly placed in ambush. Like anytime someone throws a link down immediately on the initial spawn. THAT link is an invitation to spawn camp, but a wise player can break out and place links in protected spots with good fields of fire and widely seperated. That insures your team always has somewhere to spawn in cover and without being camped, unless the enemy team can find and split up effectively to cover 6 links. IF they do that you stand a decent chance of destroying them piecemeal anyway.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2455	Posted - 2014.01.27 17:33:00 - [40] - Quote What do you want this to be COD514 Psh talking about smart deploy, welcome to new eden HTFU /sarcasm Im not drunk, the planet just happens to be especially wobbly today.

ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 858	Posted - 2014.01.27 17:49:00 - [41] - Quote Lv2spd2 wrote: [quote=Thumb Green] Like anytime someone throws a link down immediately on the initial spawn. THAT link is an invitation to spawn camp, but a wise player can break out and place links in protected spots with good fields of fire and widely seperated. That is the crux of the problem. Once that first link is dropped, any "smart deploy" after that point will place you on that link.. Then it is up to the "smart players" to survive and find a new place to drop a link. Then you can choose which one you want.. or again smart deploy will pick one of the links (or CRU) for you. It still pidgeon holes you into choosing a fixed location, as opposed to a random one like most deathmatch modes currently in existence across the FPS genre. This is the problem that I think the OP is attempting to address... yet the typical answer seems to be 'get gud" or something like that. strange
Andris Kronis Science For Death 29	Posted - 2014.01.28 03:45:00 - [42] - Quote As long as you bring enough uplinks and sprinkle them around the map you can succeed with Ambush uplinks. It does mean you will be pretty much just dropping links for most of the match and dieing when a red finds you so it's not for those that like keeping their K/D. Advanced logi suit, R-9 + N-11 drop links + Advanced or Proto Nano hive. -> leave little depots around the map for your bluberries to fight from. A suit that is viable but not super expensive, try a rail rifle or combat rifle for a little DPS to keep the reds at bay for long enough to run away. Bonus points if you can get the links somewhere out of the way of camping such as on top of an inaccessible building or piece of terrain. But good luck getting a dropship up in an ambush match unless you have first vehicle deploy for the match :) - don't get too attached to that dropship. If two team members in a match deploy 4 uplinks each, well apart from each other, you have a chance of surviving a spawn in as opposed to the "smart" deploy just dropping you in the cluster of your dieing allies. (or that single camped link) Obviously you have to read your map and work out if the tactic could work, big open fields don't do well with this and maps with little cover make it extra hard to survive the zerg attack coming your way.


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