DUST Search - Can we please get f***in smart deploy fixed?

Baal Roo wrote:

Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:

Baal Roo wrote:

Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:

Baal Roo wrote:

I mean, it's annoying when you randomly spawn into reds, but if you're more than 30 seconds into the game and you're still using the random spawning... it's your own team's fault and you're most likely going to lose either way.

yes and no. when reds have the uplinks covered you hope that the smart spawn will spawn you away from them that way you can get new links out of the way of the actiopn to regroup, but seeing as anyone trying to replenish new links would use smart spawn to try and spawn away from the action to place new links out you get caught in a loop until the smart spawn works and it spawns you elsewhere to replensih the links. i have my uplink suit which i try drop links all the way around the map to give better options but once links have been taken down soemtimes you just have no choice but to hit smart spawn and hope for the best

At that point in the match, when they've pushed through your defenses and gotten to your uplinks, the game is pretty much over anyway. Unless you're not working as a squad to keep your spawn points defended and safe, at which point see my original comment.

If you're just dropping uplinks and then your team is running off like chickens with their heads cut off, you're going to have a bad time.

there are times when i've managed to get uplinks out and flanked the reds and turn the game around. it can be done if you have a good team but its just a struggle when you're fighting the game mechanics more than the reds lol

The mechanics used to be that spawning was completely random, people whined and they implented this "smart deploy" nonsense. Playing smart and using the tools provided to you as a team is not "fighting the game mechanics," you're expected to use and defend your spawn points as a squad. If you can't do that, you've lost the match, better luck next time, get good scrub, HTFU, etc, etc.

Also, for the record, CCP actually tried having everyone spawn at opposite ends of the map at the start of the match, but the vocal minority of asshats here moaned and complained about that too... even though it completely resolved the problem with the spawning. They didn't like "having to run so far" at the beginning.

Again, the people who are mopping you up have learned how to play the game. they set an uplink, work as a squad, and protect their spawns (while taking advantage of poor play from the enemy when they don't do the same), when they move locations or advance on a position they move their spawn point. It's pointless to whine that the "spawn of last resort" doesn't spawn you perfectly. If it did, what would be the point of having logis with uplinks in your squad? in Dust 514 you're expected to play smart, and play as a squad.

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Nirwanda Vaughns 280	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:49:00 - [1] - Quote Pretty please!! just been in a game and team got anhilliated because smart deploy just kept chucking us in the exact same spot surrounded by red dots. wish it was a rare issue but its every ambush game you hit smart deploy and it just zaps you straight to an uplink or CRU. if i wanted to f**kin spawn there i'd click on it Proto and proud!!
manboar thunder fist SAM-MIK 25	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:49:00 - [2] - Quote You should not deploy within 40m of a vehicle 1.8 will shoot my amarr logi in the face with an ion pistol then bury it under a caldari heavy. No, not alive thankfully
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 50	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:51:00 - [3] - Quote I came back from a month of not playing Dust. I read in the 1.7 updates that "smart deploy is smarter." Spawned at the very beginning of an Ambush in my Proto suit. Instantly died.
Duke Noobiam Da Short Buss Driving School 3	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:52:00 - [4] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Pretty please!! just been in a game and team got anhilliated because smart deploy just kept chucking us in the exact same spot surrounded by red dots. wish it was a rare issue but its every ambush game you hit smart deploy and it just zaps you straight to an uplink or CRU. if i wanted to f**kin spawn there i'd click on it Maybe the deployment is "smart" for the other team... When the red river runs, take the dirt road.
Teilka Darkmist 98	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:54:00 - [5] - Quote Duke Noobiam wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Pretty please!! just been in a game and team got anhilliated because smart deploy just kept chucking us in the exact same spot surrounded by red dots. wish it was a rare issue but its every ambush game you hit smart deploy and it just zaps you straight to an uplink or CRU. if i wanted to f**kin spawn there i'd click on it Maybe the deployment is "smart" for the other team... It's called smart deploy because you have to be smart to figure out how to not die when using it. When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 975	Posted - 2014.01.26 23:59:00 - [6] - Quote they have fixed and then broken in it a couple times now.
Darken-Soul Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 175	Posted - 2014.01.27 00:05:00 - [7] - Quote Why would you use smart deploy? look at where those blues are winking out of existence. That is where you will deploy. How smart is it to deploy there? I recommend bringing your own uplinks to ambush. Break away and set a fall back location. If you can't be bothered to watch your own ass, don't come crying here. If its too bad just don't deploy, it will all be over soon. I am the real Darken
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2870	Posted - 2014.01.27 00:06:00 - [8] - Quote I mean, it's annoying when you randomly spawn into reds, but if you're more than 30 seconds into the game and you're still using the random spawning... it's your own team's fault and you're most likely going to lose either way.
Akdhar Saif Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 189	Posted - 2014.01.27 00:10:00 - [9] - Quote Maybe just let us fall from and RDV circling the battlefield. We can then be spawned and we can drop wherever we like.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 52	Posted - 2014.01.27 00:19:00 - [10] - Quote Akdhar Saif wrote: Maybe just let us fall from and RDV circling the battlefield. We can then be spawned and we can drop wherever we like. This +1 Except it should be an MCC or something.

BMSTUBBY KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 633	Posted - 2014.01.27 00:20:00 - [11] - Quote It will never be better because CCP Devs are just facepalming LOL bad at Deving for FPS's. Until they ship this thing off to a proper FPS Dev it will always be $hit. Meh, F2P Lobby Shooter BattleDuty 514 Working as intended.
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 231	Posted - 2014.01.27 00:24:00 - [12] - Quote Akdhar Saif wrote: Maybe just let us fall from and RDV circling the battlefield. We can then be spawned and we can drop wherever we like. -1 Inertia damps would act like nice little signal flares telling the enemy team 'Hey look!someone spawned over here.'
Nirwanda Vaughns 284	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:02:00 - [13] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: I mean, it's annoying when you randomly spawn into reds, but if you're more than 30 seconds into the game and you're still using the random spawning... it's your own team's fault and you're most likely going to lose either way. yes and no. when reds have the uplinks covered you hope that the smart spawn will spawn you away from them that way you can get new links out of the way of the actiopn to regroup, but seeing as anyone trying to replenish new links would use smart spawn to try and spawn away from the action to place new links out you get caught in a loop until the smart spawn works and it spawns you elsewhere to replensih the links. i have my uplink suit which i try drop links all the way around the map to give better options but once links have been taken down soemtimes you just have no choice but to hit smart spawn and hope for the best Proto and proud!!
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2871	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:19:00 - [14] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Baal Roo wrote: I mean, it's annoying when you randomly spawn into reds, but if you're more than 30 seconds into the game and you're still using the random spawning... it's your own team's fault and you're most likely going to lose either way. yes and no. when reds have the uplinks covered you hope that the smart spawn will spawn you away from them that way you can get new links out of the way of the actiopn to regroup, but seeing as anyone trying to replenish new links would use smart spawn to try and spawn away from the action to place new links out you get caught in a loop until the smart spawn works and it spawns you elsewhere to replensih the links. i have my uplink suit which i try drop links all the way around the map to give better options but once links have been taken down soemtimes you just have no choice but to hit smart spawn and hope for the best At that point in the match, when they've pushed through your defenses and gotten to your uplinks, the game is pretty much over anyway. Unless you're not working as a squad to keep your spawn points defended and safe, at which point see my original comment. If you're just dropping uplinks and then your team is running off like chickens with their heads cut off, you're going to have a bad time.
Nirwanda Vaughns 286	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:24:00 - [15] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Baal Roo wrote: I mean, it's annoying when you randomly spawn into reds, but if you're more than 30 seconds into the game and you're still using the random spawning... it's your own team's fault and you're most likely going to lose either way. yes and no. when reds have the uplinks covered you hope that the smart spawn will spawn you away from them that way you can get new links out of the way of the actiopn to regroup, but seeing as anyone trying to replenish new links would use smart spawn to try and spawn away from the action to place new links out you get caught in a loop until the smart spawn works and it spawns you elsewhere to replensih the links. i have my uplink suit which i try drop links all the way around the map to give better options but once links have been taken down soemtimes you just have no choice but to hit smart spawn and hope for the best At that point in the match, when they've pushed through your defenses and gotten to your uplinks, the game is pretty much over anyway. Unless you're not working as a squad to keep your spawn points defended and safe, at which point see my original comment. If you're just dropping uplinks and then your team is running off like chickens with their heads cut off, you're going to have a bad time. there are times when i've managed to get uplinks out and flanked the reds and turn the game around. it can be done if you have a good team but its just a struggle when you're fighting the game mechanics more than the reds lol Proto and proud!!
Vile Heathen Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 906	Posted - 2014.01.27 02:36:00 - [16] - Quote "Smart Deploy" is an oxymoron. I've been in one too many games where the other team gets two or three blaster tanks camping the only spawn point. I used to love soloing ambushes, but now it's just a big joke. I don't even have a problem with proto tryhards and tank stompers, but the mechanics of smart deploy is just effing terrible and ineffective. Screw that noise. Random spawns is better.
Espartoi Zero-Day Attack Zero-Day 32	Posted - 2014.01.27 04:19:00 - [17] - Quote It should be at least renamed. You think that everything must be like you want and all is unfair? the answer is simple as Deal with it or GTFO.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2871	Posted - 2014.01.27 04:20:00 - [18] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Baal Roo wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Baal Roo wrote: I mean, it's annoying when you randomly spawn into reds, but if you're more than 30 seconds into the game and you're still using the random spawning... it's your own team's fault and you're most likely going to lose either way. yes and no. when reds have the uplinks covered you hope that the smart spawn will spawn you away from them that way you can get new links out of the way of the actiopn to regroup, but seeing as anyone trying to replenish new links would use smart spawn to try and spawn away from the action to place new links out you get caught in a loop until the smart spawn works and it spawns you elsewhere to replensih the links. i have my uplink suit which i try drop links all the way around the map to give better options but once links have been taken down soemtimes you just have no choice but to hit smart spawn and hope for the best At that point in the match, when they've pushed through your defenses and gotten to your uplinks, the game is pretty much over anyway. Unless you're not working as a squad to keep your spawn points defended and safe, at which point see my original comment. If you're just dropping uplinks and then your team is running off like chickens with their heads cut off, you're going to have a bad time. there are times when i've managed to get uplinks out and flanked the reds and turn the game around. it can be done if you have a good team but its just a struggle when you're fighting the game mechanics more than the reds lol The mechanics used to be that spawning was completely random, people whined and they implented this "smart deploy" nonsense. Playing smart and using the tools provided to you as a team is not "fighting the game mechanics," you're expected to use and defend your spawn points as a squad. If you can't do that, you've lost the match, better luck next time, get good scrub, HTFU, etc, etc. Also, for the record, CCP actually tried having everyone spawn at opposite ends of the map at the start of the match, but the vocal minority of asshats here moaned and complained about it... even though it completely resolved the problem with the spawning. They didn't like "having to run so far" at the beginning. Again, the people who are mopping you up have learned how to play the game. they set an uplink, work as a squad, and protect their spawns (while taking advantage of poor play from the enemy when they don't do the same). It's pointless to whine that the "spawn of last resort" doesn't spawn you perfectly. If it did, what would be the point of having logis with uplinks in your squad? in Dust 514 you're expected to play smart, and play as a squad.
Nirwanda Vaughns 288	Posted - 2014.01.27 11:48:00 - [19] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Baal Roo wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Baal Roo wrote: I mean, it's annoying when you randomly spawn into reds, but if you're more than 30 seconds into the game and you're still using the random spawning... it's your own team's fault and you're most likely going to lose either way. yes and no. when reds have the uplinks covered you hope that the smart spawn will spawn you away from them that way you can get new links out of the way of the actiopn to regroup, but seeing as anyone trying to replenish new links would use smart spawn to try and spawn away from the action to place new links out you get caught in a loop until the smart spawn works and it spawns you elsewhere to replensih the links. i have my uplink suit which i try drop links all the way around the map to give better options but once links have been taken down soemtimes you just have no choice but to hit smart spawn and hope for the best At that point in the match, when they've pushed through your defenses and gotten to your uplinks, the game is pretty much over anyway. Unless you're not working as a squad to keep your spawn points defended and safe, at which point see my original comment. If you're just dropping uplinks and then your team is running off like chickens with their heads cut off, you're going to have a bad time. there are times when i've managed to get uplinks out and flanked the reds and turn the game around. it can be done if you have a good team but its just a struggle when you're fighting the game mechanics more than the reds lol The mechanics used to be that spawning was completely random, people whined and they implented this "smart deploy" nonsense. Playing smart and using the tools provided to you as a team is not "fighting the game mechanics," you're expected to use and defend your spawn points as a squad. If you can't do that, you've lost the match, better luck next time, get good scrub, HTFU, etc, etc. Also, for the record, CCP actually tried having everyone spawn at opposite ends of the map at the start of the match, but the vocal minority of asshats here moaned and complained about that too... even though it completely resolved the problem with the spawning. They didn't like "having to run so far" at the beginning. Again, the people who are mopping you up have learned how to play the game. they set an uplink, work as a squad, and protect their spawns (while taking advantage of poor play from the enemy when they don't do the same), when they move locations or advance on a position they move their spawn point. It's pointless to whine that the "spawn of last resort" doesn't spawn you perfectly. If it did, what would be the point of having logis with uplinks in your squad? in Dust 514 you're expected to play smart, and play as a squad. but again yes you can defend your uplinks but agan if the uplinks are gone and your only resort is the smart deploy and instead of spawning you our of danger like it was supposed to (it was 'fixed' so that it spawned you away from clusters of reds and next to clusters of greens then blues depending on situation) the trouble is its that if your blues are trapped then it keeps sending you to exactly the same spot so it gets caught into a loop of spawning next to your team which is the part which is broken. the theory behind the smart deploy is good its just the execution of it has been done badly in that it needs fine tuning so that when reds and blues are in too close a proximity it drops you in a more favorable poition the issue of automatically choosing an uplink to me just seems to be a bit of broken code. simple solution would be that smart deploy doesn't use a spawn uplink or cru as a spawn point option which i'm sure would help ease a bit of the frustration. and of course cloaks may help ease the issue of it if you can hit the cloak and run for it fast enough but just telling folk to htfu is just burying head in sand and ignoring a broken mechanic by trying to blame the team for not having enough uplinks. Proto and proud!!
The Baby Shaker Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 120	Posted - 2014.01.27 12:47:00 - [20] - Quote Last I checked uplinks cause you to lose ambushes. They are big markers that light up on scans and show those 4 enemy tanks where your entire team will spawn. You might as well put a neon sign up that says spawn camp us here. It seems every time someone starts throwing uplinks around the smart spawn has a brain fart and the team gets demolished before they can spawn in and move. I'm too drunk to taste this chicken

Andris Kronis Science For Death 27	Posted - 2014.01.27 13:20:00 - [21] - Quote It's pretty easy to fix, a grid of 9 locations, perhaps 16 on the big maps and you choose which square to be randomly dropped into. Links can help you win ambush but only if you use them the right way. And if you hold your tongue in the right position ;) .
Nirwanda Vaughns 288	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:11:00 - [22] - Quote The Baby Shaker wrote: Last I checked uplinks cause you to lose ambushes. They are big markers that light up on scans and show those 4 enemy tanks where your entire team will spawn. You might as well put a neon sign up that says spawn camp us here. It seems every time someone starts throwing uplinks around the smart spawn has a brain fart and the team gets demolished before they can spawn in and move. also why i suggested a 'black ops' Proto uplink. only has 5 spawns on it. carry 1/drop 1 but has an extremely low profile so you can use it to flank round enemy with a scout, drop the link and move a squad in because even with cloaks, as soon as a scout drops an uplink it lights up like a friggin christmas tree making the stealth aspect pretty redundant Proto and proud!!
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6013	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:15:00 - [23] - Quote Need perhaps a close, mid, and far options to spawn. If you choose close, you spawn like usual. If you choose mid, you spawn a good distance away from your team's cluster. If you choose far, you spawn somewhere on the outskirts by the redline. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
BuTtHuRtPEepZ Raging Pack of Homosapiens 208	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:20:00 - [24] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Pretty please!! just been in a game and team got anhilliated because smart deploy just kept chucking us in the exact same spot surrounded by red dots. wish it was a rare issue but its every ambush game you hit smart deploy and it just zaps you straight to an uplink or CRU. if i wanted to f**kin spawn there i'd click on it stop playing ambush
Nirwanda Vaughns 288	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:28:00 - [25] - Quote BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Pretty please!! just been in a game and team got anhilliated because smart deploy just kept chucking us in the exact same spot surrounded by red dots. wish it was a rare issue but its every ambush game you hit smart deploy and it just zaps you straight to an uplink or CRU. if i wanted to f**kin spawn there i'd click on it stop playing ambush ok, so to all the whiners on the forums complaining about heavies with rail rifles and ridiculous tank spam we shoudld say what?.............. stop playing dust? Proto and proud!!
jinn ko82 Deep Space Dangerous Logistics 1	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:41:00 - [26] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: Why would you use smart deploy? look at where those blues are winking out of existence. That is where you will deploy. How smart is it to deploy there? I recommend bringing your own uplinks to ambush. Break away and set a fall back location. If you can't be bothered to watch your own ass, don't come crying here. If its too bad just don't deploy, it will all be over soon. holy **** what a great idea!!!!! oh wait if all the beacons are used up/destroyed and you cant spawn to place more how the hell is your "suggestion" going to help......
snazzbear PiZzA DuDeS 9	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:55:00 - [27] - Quote Oi smart deploy you cheeky sonb- A few more options that spawn you at various lengths from you team cluster would be nice. Would kinda be nice. drop uplink smart deploy smarter deploy mystery spot
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 316	Posted - 2014.01.27 15:57:00 - [28] - Quote Nirwanda, That's why my first (and sometimes second and third) suits in Ambush are always uplink suits.
Darken-Soul Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 181	Posted - 2014.01.27 16:15:00 - [29] - Quote jinn ko82 wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: Why would you use smart deploy? look at where those blues are winking out of existence. That is where you will deploy. How smart is it to deploy there? I recommend bringing your own uplinks to ambush. Break away and set a fall back location. If you can't be bothered to watch your own ass, don't come crying here. If its too bad just don't deploy, it will all be over soon. holy **** what a great idea!!!!! oh wait if all the beacons are used up/destroyed and you cant spawn to place more how the hell is your "suggestion" going to help...... you are such a crybaby. I can't wait to roll you in an ambush for being a moron. In fact if you see me you had better just leave cause I will drop a stream of tanks for my team just to kill you. I am the real Darken
jinn ko82 Deep Space Dangerous Logistics 1	Posted - 2014.01.27 16:17:00 - [30] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: jinn ko82 wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: Why would you use smart deploy? look at where those blues are winking out of existence. That is where you will deploy. How smart is it to deploy there? I recommend bringing your own uplinks to ambush. Break away and set a fall back location. If you can't be bothered to watch your own ass, don't come crying here. If its too bad just don't deploy, it will all be over soon. holy **** what a great idea!!!!! oh wait if all the beacons are used up/destroyed and you cant spawn to place more how the hell is your "suggestion" going to help...... you are such a crybaby. I can't wait to roll you in an ambush for being a moron. In fact if you see me you had better just leave cause I will drop a stream of tanks for my team just to kill you. lol ok kiddo



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