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Renegades Bane
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:27:00 -
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It is time brothers and sisters!! This is bullshit!!!! Nyain San , AE. , and all that stand by them must fall!! PD!! How long will you sit by and attack those that mean you no harm?! Put aside your differences everyone! It must be done!! Cubs!! Zatara !! Ydubbs!! Quickgloves!! Mike Ruan!! Radar!! Where are the leaders and elites of DUST? Isn't it time for RA to fall like EoN? This must be done. No longer will they overshadow us! Unite as one! Let them here the outcries of the community!! Let them feel our rage. Let us devour this donut like no other was before! And from its crumbs let us keep watch so that another donut does not rise!!! They complain about not having a fight...let's give them one. Now more than ever MH needs to be cleansed. They will pay for their imperialist ways! Small corps!! This is now your time! Overshadowed alliances!! Now is the time to strike. Forget about the Isk but if it's your goal...they own more than 50% of MH and if you count their puppets they have even more in there sphere of influence!
Nyain San as it is now can not withstand a blitz by 20 corps!! Nearly all their timers are on the same time. Their arrogance will be their downfall!! They make billion per day! Do the math!
AE!!! How many pub star teams can you throw together I wonder?
DDB you could've been a leader after you left PD, but instead you side with them. Leave them now before your fate is sealed along with theirs! Join us!! The United Front Against Renegade Alliance !!
Join UFARA now!!
STB, MOLON, Phoenix Fed, OH, TOP, PX1 , KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND, Fatal Absolution , Valor Coalition , zero-day attack, HELLSTORM , men in black ops , the dystopian corporation, what the French, WARRAVENS , kill-em-quick, TEAMPLAYERS, RND, eternal beings, Grupo de asalto, rebelion TLC, 3dge of D4arkness, TSOLE, Red-scorpion - Latinos , ultramarine corp, the generals , subsonic, synthesis , forsaken immortals , Latinos killers corp, all others out there!! Break your ties with RA!! Set aside your dislike for one another and start fighting!!!
To Renegade I say this. Surrender now or prepare to see your empire fall. Abandon your districts until you hold only 15 or less or give then up peacefully. If not, you shall see.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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XEROO COOL
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
393
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:30:00 -
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TLDR: Attack Renegade Alliance.
Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face!
(Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Xeroo.Cool on Skype.
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CUBS UNbanned Alt
88
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:31:00 -
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our stance remains simple.. u pay, we play
not taking a side.
War is good for business tho so ummm... YaY WAR!!
Don't drink the koolaid... Rampage made it from scratch and didn't wash his hands
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Long Evity
1272
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:31:00 -
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No profit in this.
If you want AE/NS taken down - just field a team that can win and push them out slowly. Only takes one group, not 20.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
1272
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:32:00 -
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CUBS UNbanned Alt wrote:our stance remains simple.. u pay, we play
not taking a side.
War is good for business tho so ummm... YaY WAR!!
^ NF is neutral in all your disputes of land in MH. We're up to be hired, though. But AE/NS can hire us too. :D
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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XEROO COOL
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
393
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:33:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:CUBS UNbanned Alt wrote:our stance remains simple.. u pay, we play
not taking a side.
War is good for business tho so ummm... YaY WAR!! ^ NF is neutral in all your disputes of land in MH. We're up to be hired, though. But AE/NS can hire us too. :D I can pay a video of the best anime ever... will that suffice?
Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face!
(Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Xeroo.Cool on Skype.
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
326
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:34:00 -
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It is me or the OP's name sound like he should be in RA not trying to form a FEC style coalition |
Long Evity
1272
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:35:00 -
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XEROO COOL wrote:Long Evity wrote:CUBS UNbanned Alt wrote:our stance remains simple.. u pay, we play
not taking a side.
War is good for business tho so ummm... YaY WAR!! ^ NF is neutral in all your disputes of land in MH. We're up to be hired, though. But AE/NS can hire us too. :D I can pay a video of the best anime ever... will that suffice?
I already have videos of every anime TO EVER SEE DAYLIGHT.
ISK > All :3
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Renegades Bane
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:37:00 -
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Profit!! There is no profit in this. Take the land. It is yours for the taking but be fair. They haven't. Put aside the Isk this one time and without even knowing it you'll gain ore Isk that you could possibly spend and all of you already have more than you can spend.
His isn't just my voice. It isn't my will alone.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
327
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:38:00 -
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Renegades Bane wrote:Profit!! There is no profit in this. Take the land. It is yours for the taking but be fair. They haven't. Put aside the Isk this one time and without even knowing it you'll gain ore Isk that you could possibly spend and all of you already have more than you can spend.
His isn't just my voice. It isn't my will alone.
Why can't you use your main????
I have an idea who you are |
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Renegades Bane
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:43:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:Profit!! There is no profit in this. Take the land. It is yours for the taking but be fair. They haven't. Put aside the Isk this one time and without even knowing it you'll gain ore Isk that you could possibly spend and all of you already have more than you can spend.
His isn't just my voice. It isn't my will alone. Why can't you use your main???? I have an idea who you are
Why? You know why.
And you don't know me. Compared to you giants I'm no one. I've fought with you, against you...but I doubt you remember my true name.
@ cubs - What about your pride? TP gave this all to AE. They didn't earn it. As soon as you pure innocence , synergy , and RND left there was no one else to stop them. You talked about making the community better. You gave up and this happened . Don't do it for the Isk. Do it for the challenge
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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CUBS UNbanned Alt
90
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:44:00 -
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Renegades Bane wrote:Profit!! There is no profit in this. Take the land. It is yours for the taking but be fair. They haven't. Put aside the Isk this one time and without even knowing it you'll gain ore Isk that you could possibly spend and all of you already have more than you can spend.
His isn't just my voice. It isn't my will alone.
no profit?? sorry I don't understand what that means. could anyone please translate?
Don't drink the koolaid... Rampage made it from scratch and didn't wash his hands
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XEROO COOL
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
396
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:45:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:XEROO COOL wrote:Long Evity wrote:CUBS UNbanned Alt wrote:our stance remains simple.. u pay, we play
not taking a side.
War is good for business tho so ummm... YaY WAR!! ^ NF is neutral in all your disputes of land in MH. We're up to be hired, though. But AE/NS can hire us too. :D I can pay a video of the best anime ever... will that suffice? I already have videos of every anime TO EVER SEE DAYLIGHT. ISK > All :3 *puts voltron away* "someday someone will love you as I do"
Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face!
(Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Xeroo.Cool on Skype.
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
327
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:45:00 -
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CUBS UNbanned Alt wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:Profit!! There is no profit in this. Take the land. It is yours for the taking but be fair. They haven't. Put aside the Isk this one time and without even knowing it you'll gain ore Isk that you could possibly spend and all of you already have more than you can spend.
His isn't just my voice. It isn't my will alone. no profit?? sorry I don't understand what that means. could anyone please translate?
Ring for them for free??? |
CUBS UNbanned Alt
90
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:45:00 -
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Renegades Bane wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:Profit!! There is no profit in this. Take the land. It is yours for the taking but be fair. They haven't. Put aside the Isk this one time and without even knowing it you'll gain ore Isk that you could possibly spend and all of you already have more than you can spend.
His isn't just my voice. It isn't my will alone. Why can't you use your main???? I have an idea who you are Why? You know why. And you don't know me. Compared to you giants I'm no one. I've fought with you, against you...but I doubt you remember my true name. @ cubs - What about your pride? TP gave this all to AE. They didn't earn it. As soon as you pure innocence , synergy , and RND left there was no one else to stop them. You talked about making the community better. You gave up and this happened . Don't do it for the Isk. Do it for the challenge
my pride is fully intact...
my pride is attached to WINNING, which is what I do
WHO I WIN for, that is dictated by my wallet 
Don't drink the koolaid... Rampage made it from scratch and didn't wash his hands
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Marad''er
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
561
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:46:00 -
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Yes attack plz. Ill fund you guys if you need isk btw
GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢
Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà
Forum Warrior LV. 4 | pâÅpéñpâápü»tºüpü«µëôµÆâpéÆF¦ápüúpüªpüäpéï | PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
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CUBS UNbanned Alt
90
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:47:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:CUBS UNbanned Alt wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:Profit!! There is no profit in this. Take the land. It is yours for the taking but be fair. They haven't. Put aside the Isk this one time and without even knowing it you'll gain ore Isk that you could possibly spend and all of you already have more than you can spend.
His isn't just my voice. It isn't my will alone. no profit?? sorry I don't understand what that means. could anyone please translate? Ring for them for free???
ah... 'free' I once heard that word, in a galaxy...far far away, whilst an intern, and living off ramen noodles
Don't drink the koolaid... Rampage made it from scratch and didn't wash his hands
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Long Evity
1275
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:47:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:CUBS UNbanned Alt wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:Profit!! There is no profit in this. Take the land. It is yours for the taking but be fair. They haven't. Put aside the Isk this one time and without even knowing it you'll gain ore Isk that you could possibly spend and all of you already have more than you can spend.
His isn't just my voice. It isn't my will alone. no profit?? sorry I don't understand what that means. could anyone please translate? Ring for them for free???
Madness!
Idk what this "No profit" means, but it sounds dangerous. And a tad stupid.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
1277
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:48:00 -
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Marad''er wrote:Yes attack plz. Ill fund you guys if you need isk btw
Get on Skype and we can discuss this further.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Renegades Bane
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:49:00 -
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Marad''er wrote:Yes attack plz. Ill fund you guys if you need isk btw
1 billion Isk plz so that the steamrolling can begin and so that UFARA can buy cubs loyalty
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Marad''er
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
567
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:50:00 -
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Renegades Bane wrote:Marad''er wrote:Yes attack plz. Ill fund you guys if you need isk btw 1 billion Isk plz so that the steamrolling can begin and so that UFARA can buy cubs loyalty
Ok. I need to get director position back then so I can take the money. Give me a couple days for when kujo gets on
GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢
Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà
Forum Warrior LV. 4 | pâÅpéñpâápü»tºüpü«µëôµÆâpéÆF¦ápüúpüªpüäpéï | PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
330
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:51:00 -
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Renegades Bane wrote:Marad''er wrote:Yes attack plz. Ill fund you guys if you need isk btw 1 billion Isk plz so that the steamrolling can begin and so that UFARA can buy cubs loyalty
1 billion according to you Nyain makes that in one day |
Renegades Bane
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:56:00 -
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And there is profit!!! Look at how many districts they have!! You all say there's no profit is PC but that's a bunch of bullshit. There's more in it than pubs and FW.
Nyain San has 62 districts. That's around 600 million Isk a day. That's around 4 billion in 7 days.
62x10mill ( rounded of what a always f*cking open district makes) = 600million
600m x 7 = 4.5 billion Isk
4.5 x 4 = 17 billion a month
Dont BS me...I know how deep your wallets are
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
146
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:56:00 -
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Quick, let's lock districts so we don't get attacked and farm ISK, its sooo fun guys! 
Faction Channels for FW Staging
PIE Ground Control | Caldari Hierarchy | Turalyon | Chosen Matari
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Long Evity
1277
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Posted - 2014.01.24 18:58:00 -
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AE should fund NF to go to war with them. We're bored - your bored - your rich - we're poor. Seems like a match made in heaven.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Renegades Bane
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:02:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:AE should fund NF to go to war with them. We're bored - your bored - your rich - we're poor. Seems like a match made in heaven.
Ask Nyain San too bro. They stack 600 million a day.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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CUBS UNbanned Alt
96
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:04:00 -
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actually.. anyone can fund NF!!
doesn't matter if we took your sister out to dinner then never called her again. Please don't take it personal if u face us and don't fare well.
Use the experience to help understand the justification in hiring us!!
Its happened before..
Corp A hires NF to beat up Corp B
Corp B then hires NF to beat up Corp A
we're cool with whatever, seriously
we are results driven, and ask anyone who has seen us in action. you get what you're paying for
Don't drink the koolaid... Rampage made it from scratch and didn't wash his hands
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Galthur
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
282
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:04:00 -
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FA and AE fight each other almost daily...
FA rings against Nyian often...
Get recruits for me, receive millions of ISK. Buying BPO Codes.
[Forum Level: 8]
[Scamming Level: 3]
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Renegades Bane
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:08:00 -
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Galthur wrote:FA and AE fight each other almost daily...
FA rings against Nyian often...
There needs to be an organized movement. It must be done.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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DJINN Loki
54
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:11:00 -
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Renegades Bane wrote:It is time brothers and sisters!! This is bullshit!!!! Nyain San , AE. , and all that stand by them must fall!! PD!! How long will you sit by and attack those that mean you no harm?! Put aside your differences everyone! It must be done!! Cubs!! Zatara !! Ydubbs!! Quickgloves!! Mike Ruan!! Radar!! Where are the leaders and elites of DUST? Isn't it time for RA to fall like EoN? This must be done. No longer will they overshadow us! Unite as one! Let them here the outcries of the community!! Let them feel our rage. Let us devour this donut like no other was before! And from its crumbs let us keep watch so that another donut does not rise!!! They complain about not having a fight...let's give them one. Now more than ever MH needs to be cleansed. They will pay for their imperialist ways! Small corps!! This is now your time! Overshadowed alliances!! Now is the time to strike. Forget about the Isk but if it's your goal...they own more than 50% of MH and if you count their puppets they have even more in there sphere of influence!
Nyain San as it is now can not withstand a blitz by 20 corps!! Nearly all their timers are on the same time. Their arrogance will be their downfall!! They make billion per day! Do the math!
AE!!! How many pub star teams can you throw together I wonder?
DDB you could've been a leader after you left PD, but instead you side with them. Leave them now before your fate is sealed along with theirs! Join us!! The United Front Against Renegade Alliance !!
Join UFARA now!!
STB, MOLON, Phoenix Fed, OH, TOP, PX1 , KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND, Fatal Absolution , Valor Coalition , zero-day attack, HELLSTORM , men in black ops , the dystopian corporation, what the French, WARRAVENS , kill-em-quick, TEAMPLAYERS, RND, eternal beings, Grupo de asalto, rebelion TLC, 3dge of D4arkness, TSOLE, Red-scorpion - Latinos , ultramarine corp, the generals , subsonic, synthesis , forsaken immortals , Latinos killers corp, all others out there!! Break your ties with RA!! Set aside your dislike for one another and start fighting!!!
To Renegade I say this. Surrender now or prepare to see your empire fall. Abandon your districts until you hold only 15 or less or give then up peacefully. If not, you shall see.
sure, ill help out in this. i got nothing else to do and this sounds like fun
word
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Renegades Bane
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:13:00 -
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DJINN Loki wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:It is time brothers and sisters!! This is bullshit!!!! Nyain San , AE. , and all that stand by them must fall!! PD!! How long will you sit by and attack those that mean you no harm?! Put aside your differences everyone! It must be done!! Cubs!! Zatara !! Ydubbs!! Quickgloves!! Mike Ruan!! Radar!! Where are the leaders and elites of DUST? Isn't it time for RA to fall like EoN? This must be done. No longer will they overshadow us! Unite as one! Let them here the outcries of the community!! Let them feel our rage. Let us devour this donut like no other was before! And from its crumbs let us keep watch so that another donut does not rise!!! They complain about not having a fight...let's give them one. Now more than ever MH needs to be cleansed. They will pay for their imperialist ways! Small corps!! This is now your time! Overshadowed alliances!! Now is the time to strike. Forget about the Isk but if it's your goal...they own more than 50% of MH and if you count their puppets they have even more in there sphere of influence!
Nyain San as it is now can not withstand a blitz by 20 corps!! Nearly all their timers are on the same time. Their arrogance will be their downfall!! They make billion per day! Do the math!
AE!!! How many pub star teams can you throw together I wonder?
DDB you could've been a leader after you left PD, but instead you side with them. Leave them now before your fate is sealed along with theirs! Join us!! The United Front Against Renegade Alliance !!
Join UFARA now!!
STB, MOLON, Phoenix Fed, OH, TOP, PX1 , KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND, Fatal Absolution , Valor Coalition , zero-day attack, HELLSTORM , men in black ops , the dystopian corporation, what the French, WARRAVENS , kill-em-quick, TEAMPLAYERS, RND, eternal beings, Grupo de asalto, rebelion TLC, 3dge of D4arkness, TSOLE, Red-scorpion - Latinos , ultramarine corp, the generals , subsonic, synthesis , forsaken immortals , Latinos killers corp, all others out there!! Break your ties with RA!! Set aside your dislike for one another and start fighting!!!
To Renegade I say this. Surrender now or prepare to see your empire fall. Abandon your districts until you hold only 15 or less or give then up peacefully. If not, you shall see. sure, ill help out in this. i got nothing else to do and this sounds like fun
That's the spirit!!! Let's make this game fun!! Lose Isk and make tons of it back.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
692
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:14:00 -
[32] - Quote
Uh, I just want to say that FA is still a ringer corp. Also, which side enjoys the beating of hippies more? I'll ring for a reduced price. you won't have to giggle like a girl.
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
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NobIesse Oblige
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
75
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:16:00 -
[33] - Quote
FA are noobs and thus incapable of achieving any goals.
We need to have an Unreal disband and then A PFBHz Disband and then a few corps corp so we can become a super corp...in the meantime we'll just keep scouring pubs for more scrubs.
Toodles~ |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
330
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:17:00 -
[34] - Quote
NobIesse Oblige wrote:FA are noobs and thus incapable of achieving any goals.
We need to have an Unreal disband and then A PFBHz Disband and then a few corps corp so we can become a super corp...in the meantime we'll just keep scouring pubs for more scrubs.
Toodles~
agree everyone just joins together in one corp and we own 100% of MH |
Renegades Bane
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:21:00 -
[35] - Quote
Damn you b**ch and Bi**h all day but never take up arms. Are all of you scared of RA? This is the time people. Let's be serious !!! We can change MH !! DUST!!!
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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CUBS UNbanned Alt
96
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:21:00 -
[36] - Quote
Mr Machine Guns wrote:NobIesse Oblige wrote:FA are noobs and thus incapable of achieving any goals.
We need to have an Unreal disband and then A PFBHz Disband and then a few corps corp so we can become a super corp...in the meantime we'll just keep scouring pubs for more scrubs.
Toodles~ agree everyone just joins together in one corp and we own 100% of MH
total possibility, but I DO charge quite a premium to drop my tags..
Don't drink the koolaid... Rampage made it from scratch and didn't wash his hands
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DJINN Loki
54
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:25:00 -
[37] - Quote
meh, ill ring for free, so whoever is leading the this little ragtag party, just toss me a district or two once the smoke settles 
word
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Renegades Bane
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:30:00 -
[38] - Quote
DJINN Loki wrote:meh, ill ring for free, so whoever is leading the this little ragtag party, just toss me a district or two once the smoke settles
There will be plenty of districts to go around when the dust has settled. The rewards of winning this war is high. Tremendous experience , around 80 districts opening up for new corps to come in, and a new agreement between the giants of DUST.
UFARA - uniting MH for a more competitive environment tomorrow.
Our channel will be up soon.
Note - that I'm not the leader of this. I have many ideas but the holders of power must come together and decide when to strike. I am but a lowly merc calling all to arms.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
4718
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:33:00 -
[39] - Quote
Thats a lot of PC (On awkward timers too), going to take a lot more than a thread to motivate everybody.
Fatal Absolution Operation - LVL 5
Fatal Absolution Pro. - LVL 5
FOTM Abuser, outta mah way Nyain San!
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Renegades Bane
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:39:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Thats a lot of PC (On awkward timers too), going to take a lot more than a thread to motivate everybody.
But with a good battle plan we can eliminate Nyain San quickly. We can have a Nyain San front channel where all that can fight on those timers from UFARA can congregate and make teams to blitz them.
Then help me. Talk to your CEO mercs!! Talk to your directors!! Come together now for MH and in the name of fun and fair PC matches. A health MH where all you mercs could make so much more money. It is your voices and skills that give these CEOS powers.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
173
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Posted - 2014.01.24 19:41:00 -
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Renegades Bane wrote:DJINN Loki wrote:meh, ill ring for free, so whoever is leading the this little ragtag party, just toss me a district or two once the smoke settles There will be plenty of districts to go around when the dust has settled. The rewards of winning this war is high. Tremendous experience , around 80 districts opening up for new corps to come in, and a new agreement between the giants of DUST. UFARA - uniting MH for a more competitive environment tomorrow. Our channel will be up soon. Note - that I'm not the leader of this. I have many ideas but the holders of power must come together and decide when to strike. I am but a lowly merc calling all to arms.
Shoot me an in game message. Im interested. |
Renegades Bane
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:06:00 -
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All are welcome in this endeavor !!
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john smitharooni
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:13:00 -
[43] - Quote
What the OP is proposing isn't really that farfetched, and is in fact, a suitable answer for some of the most recent complaints around here.
"PC is just a big blue donut" UFARA could be the answer
"My noob corp wants the experience of PC and the opportunity to get a district" UFARA could be the answer
"Hire my leet skills to fight for your side and insure the growth of my merc's wallet" UFARA could be the answer
"Waaaagh, there are no PC fights to be had" UFARA could be the answer
UFARA just might be the grassroots rebellion that shakes MH to its very core and you and your corp could take part in it.
Who knows? The UFARA rebellion could end up going down in DUST 514 history and end up in the lore of EVE.
Could it be worth a try? |
Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
66
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:23:00 -
[44] - Quote
We've been attacking Renegade for a while. Unfortunately a lot of you have pissed us off in the meantime. I can't exactly help Zatara when he's in an alliance that talks smack about mine, and supposedly he's leading a coalition, one that was suppose to attack renegade a few days ago in masses, but failed to do so, translation, the coalition is an unorganized cluster**** with people only working towards what benefits them, with the exception of a few.
It was not long ago SVER was helping Renegade kill me, now they are killing each other.
I think I will just wait, if we're at 1.8 I can only imagine PC 2.0 is around the corner. If it truly is EVE players transporting clones as stated in the EVE Vegas presentation, none of you will have anything to worry about, since most DUST corps have little to no EVE side. Renegade has about 5 active pilots in the area, between PD. LRA. and myself. It shouldn't be too hard to set up a gate camp and pop their ships before they can even get to a planet.
Candidate for CPM1, ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR
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Renegades Bane
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:24:00 -
[45] - Quote
john smitharooni wrote:What the OP is proposing isn't really that farfetched, and is in fact, a suitable answer for some of the most recent complaints around here.
"PC is just a big blue donut" UFARA could be the answer
"My noob corp wants the experience of PC and the opportunity to get a district" UFARA could be the answer
"Hire my leet skills to fight for your side and insure the growth of my merc's wallet" UFARA could be the answer
"Waaaagh, there are no PC fights to be had" UFARA could be the answer
UFARA just might be the grassroots rebellion that shakes MH to its very core and you and your corp could take part in it.
Who knows? The UFARA rebellion could end up going down in DUST 514 history and end up in the lore of EVE.
Could it be worth a try?
This is the truth here. We will never know unless we try! It's not only what we do during this war , it's what we do after that will change dust forever. Let's put our minds, strength and Isk together. This game could last another year!!
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8213
BIG BAD W0LVES
1454
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:25:00 -
[46] - Quote
Because the big corps outside of RA aren't coordinated enough, simple as that.
Its more like "avoid RA" or join "RA to avoid being attacked by them".
Cowards. When it comes time to play hard, everyone runs for the hills to protect their own personal interests.
Fish in a bucket!
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Renegades Bane
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:30:00 -
[47] - Quote
Spartacus Dust wrote:We've been attacking Renegade for a while. Unfortunately a lot of you have pissed us off in the meantime. I can't exactly help Zatara when he's in an alliance that talks smack about mine, and supposedly he's leading a coalition, one that was suppose to attack renegade a few days ago in masses, but failed to do so, translation, the coalition is an unorganized cluster**** with people only working towards what benefits them, with the exception of a few.
It was not long ago SVER was helping Renegade kill me, now they are killing each other.
I think I will just wait, if we're at 1.8 I can only imagine PC 2.0 is around the corner. If it truly is EVE players transporting clones as stated in the EVE Vegas presentation, none of you will have anything to worry about, since most DUST corps have little to no EVE side. Renegade has about 5 active pilots in the area, between PD. LRA. and myself. It shouldn't be too hard to set up a gate camp and pop their ships before they can even get to a planet.
The point of this war isn't to end all wars and create a "better" donut. All donuts are bad. There is away to organize these corps. They need to take risks. This war is to create more wars in the future that aren't these rebellions against donuts. There is away.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2074
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:31:00 -
[48] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:XEROO COOL wrote:Long Evity wrote:CUBS UNbanned Alt wrote:our stance remains simple.. u pay, we play
not taking a side.
War is good for business tho so ummm... YaY WAR!! ^ NF is neutral in all your disputes of land in MH. We're up to be hired, though. But AE/NS can hire us too. :D I can pay a video of the best anime ever... will that suffice? I already have videos of every anime TO EVER SEE DAYLIGHT. ISK > All :3
I have Anime that has yet to see daylight... can we make a deal?
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2380
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:33:00 -
[49] - Quote
Please not now seriously, bad timing for many.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Renegades Bane
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:35:00 -
[50] - Quote
TechMechMeds wrote:Please not now seriously, bad timing for many.
This isn't going to happen over night killer. Takes more than a forum post. We need to organize.
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
68
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:35:00 -
[51] - Quote
Renegades Bane wrote:
The point of this war isn't to end all wars and create a "better" donut. All donuts are bad. There is away to organize these corps. They need to take risks. This war is to create more wars in the future that aren't these rebellions against donuts. There is away.
I don't think you read at all what I said, I am counting on PC opening beyond Molden Heath soon with EVE pilots transporting clones to districts to start with :)
Candidate for CPM1, ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR
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ER-Bullitt
816
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:36:00 -
[52] - Quote
War knows not of this "bad timing" you speak of... |
Long Evity
1280
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:36:00 -
[53] - Quote
Killar-12 wrote:Long Evity wrote:XEROO COOL wrote:Long Evity wrote:CUBS UNbanned Alt wrote:our stance remains simple.. u pay, we play
not taking a side.
War is good for business tho so ummm... YaY WAR!! ^ NF is neutral in all your disputes of land in MH. We're up to be hired, though. But AE/NS can hire us too. :D I can pay a video of the best anime ever... will that suffice? I already have videos of every anime TO EVER SEE DAYLIGHT. ISK > All :3 I have Anime that has yet to see daylight... can we make a deal?
Things may work out for you depending on the anime content. >: )
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
1280
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:38:00 -
[54] - Quote
Spartacus Dust wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:
The point of this war isn't to end all wars and create a "better" donut. All donuts are bad. There is away to organize these corps. They need to take risks. This war is to create more wars in the future that aren't these rebellions against donuts. There is away.
I don't think you read at all what I said I am counting on PC opening beyond Molden Heath soon with EVE pilots transporting clones to districts to start with :)
I seriously hope you don't think the top corps are ignorant enough to not have any EvE support at all. If anything - top corps will remain top corps because the EvE alliances who want to get involved will want the best - and it won't be from corps who track record in PC is getting removed every other month Lol
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2074
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:38:00 -
[55] - Quote
Mr Machine Guns wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:Marad''er wrote:Yes attack plz. Ill fund you guys if you need isk btw 1 billion Isk plz so that the steamrolling can begin and so that UFARA can buy cubs loyalty 1 billion according to you Nyain makes that in one day
Toss me 1 billion, you won't lose your districts... I'll fight DDB or AE sure but NSes timers are not great for me... AE probably... DDB's efforts in regard to PFC are noble (even if ineffective) enough to deserve some nice treatment
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
69
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:40:00 -
[56] - Quote
Long Evity, personally the only anime I really really really think worth seeing is Legend Of Galactic Heroes. It's like New Eden, with ground battles and spaceship boarding and fleet tactics.
Candidate for CPM1, ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR
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Gildart Lightray
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
63
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:42:00 -
[57] - Quote
I agree with the OP. I don't speak for PX1 but only for myself. I'll ring for free for any corp that's in this UFARA business. And if it comes down to it, and PX1 doesn't jump into this if it does take off , I'll join any corp that "wears" the UFARA colors.
I really think this could work out. And it would be fun!! That anime corp conquering MH is taking to long :/ where are the sempais at?!
Forum Warrior lvl. 0
This scrub is for hire
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2074
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:42:00 -
[58] - Quote
Mr Machine Guns wrote:NobIesse Oblige wrote:FA are noobs and thus incapable of achieving any goals.
We need to have an Unreal disband and then A PFBHz Disband and then a few corps corp so we can become a super corp...in the meantime we'll just keep scouring pubs for more scrubs.
Toodles~ agree everyone just joins together in one corp and we own 100% of MH
Let's make Contra Ban Joe happy and make FWA that corp
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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Long Evity
1281
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:42:00 -
[59] - Quote
Spartacus Dust wrote:Long Evity, personally the only anime I really really really think worth seeing is Legend Of Galactic Heroes. It's like New Eden, with ground battles and spaceship boarding and fleet tactics.
Fantastic anime - you may like Crest of the Stars as well.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
1281
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:43:00 -
[60] - Quote
Killar-12 wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:NobIesse Oblige wrote:FA are noobs and thus incapable of achieving any goals.
We need to have an Unreal disband and then A PFBHz Disband and then a few corps corp so we can become a super corp...in the meantime we'll just keep scouring pubs for more scrubs.
Toodles~ agree everyone just joins together in one corp and we own 100% of MH Let's make Contra Ban Joe happy and make FWA that corp
You just gave CBJ his first wet dream since open beta.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
69
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:51:00 -
[61] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:
The point of this war isn't to end all wars and create a "better" donut. All donuts are bad. There is away to organize these corps. They need to take risks. This war is to create more wars in the future that aren't these rebellions against donuts. There is away.
I don't think you read at all what I said I am counting on PC opening beyond Molden Heath soon with EVE pilots transporting clones to districts to start with :) I seriously hope you don't think the top corps are ignorant enough to not have any EvE support at all. If anything - top corps will remain top corps because the EvE alliances who want to get involved will want the best - and it won't be from corps who track record in PC is getting removed every other month Lol
I didn't say that, I said Renegade has 5 active pilots in the region, translation, their EVE side is fairly insignificant, and if you think a powerful EVE alliance is going to disband to join Renegade, that's not going to happen. If anything, Renegade will disband and join one of the major Nullsec Alliances :/
I only say this because I know how hard it is to convince an EVE player that DUST is worth while. The only place it's even remotely profitable is FW.
I recommend corps without EVE support join LRA or Public Disorder. They have a good EVE side so far. Renegade's support is fairly limited in the Region, most of their EVE Forces are very spread out, I don't imagine they will come back to MH when they are making good isk in Nullsec/Wormholes
Candidate for CPM1, ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR
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DaNizzle4shizle
Zero-Day Attack
Zero-Day
342
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:56:00 -
[62] - Quote
Pending
Acting CEO of Zero-Day Attack. Forum warrior 0.3
Proud owner of PFC district. Contact me and we can set up a battle time
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excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
174
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:02:00 -
[63] - Quote
Spartacus Dust wrote:Long Evity wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:
The point of this war isn't to end all wars and create a "better" donut. All donuts are bad. There is away to organize these corps. They need to take risks. This war is to create more wars in the future that aren't these rebellions against donuts. There is away.
I don't think you read at all what I said I am counting on PC opening beyond Molden Heath soon with EVE pilots transporting clones to districts to start with :) I seriously hope you don't think the top corps are ignorant enough to not have any EvE support at all. If anything - top corps will remain top corps because the EvE alliances who want to get involved will want the best - and it won't be from corps who track record in PC is getting removed every other month Lol I didn't say that, I said Renegade has 5 active pilots in the region, translation, their EVE side is fairly insignificant, and if you think a powerful EVE alliance is going to disband to join Renegade, that's not going to happen. If anything, Renegade will disband and join one of the major Nullsec Alliances :/ I only say this because I know how hard it is to convince an EVE player that DUST is worth while. The only place it's even remotely profitable is FW. I recommend corps without EVE support join LRA or Public Disorder. They have a good EVE side so far. Renegade's support is fairly limited in the Region, most of their EVE Forces are very spread out, I don't imagine they will come back to MH when they are making good isk in Nullsec/Wormholes
As a member of a large eve alliance this is true. Many of us are just waiting for the map to open up. |
Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
70
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:10:00 -
[64] - Quote
For a full assault on RA, you would need to void the rules of PFC so other corps have clones to attack with.
Speaking from an EVE side though, I highly recommend you try to take districts in Egbinger, (during French hours) or Bosena (during US hours). Since they are pirate areas, and they are least likely to receive orbital support in those areas.
Though I doubt the Coalition has come to this conclusion or it would have happened some time ago when I was asked for assistance on this.
Point being, the Coalition is too disorganized and riddled with lots of spies, and if RA starts losing to many districts they will lock them, and in turn you will just lock yours in fear of them. It's a lose lose situation, where few members in the coalition actually benefit.
PC Mechanics need to be fixed.
PC 2.0 is the answer you've been waiting for.
Candidate for CPM1, ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR
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Long Evity
1281
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:11:00 -
[65] - Quote
excillon wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:Long Evity wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:
The point of this war isn't to end all wars and create a "better" donut. All donuts are bad. There is away to organize these corps. They need to take risks. This war is to create more wars in the future that aren't these rebellions against donuts. There is away.
I don't think you read at all what I said I am counting on PC opening beyond Molden Heath soon with EVE pilots transporting clones to districts to start with :) I seriously hope you don't think the top corps are ignorant enough to not have any EvE support at all. If anything - top corps will remain top corps because the EvE alliances who want to get involved will want the best - and it won't be from corps who track record in PC is getting removed every other month Lol I didn't say that, I said Renegade has 5 active pilots in the region, translation, their EVE side is fairly insignificant, and if you think a powerful EVE alliance is going to disband to join Renegade, that's not going to happen. If anything, Renegade will disband and join one of the major Nullsec Alliances :/ I only say this because I know how hard it is to convince an EVE player that DUST is worth while. The only place it's even remotely profitable is FW. I recommend corps without EVE support join LRA or Public Disorder. They have a good EVE side so far. Renegade's support is fairly limited in the Region, most of their EVE Forces are very spread out, I don't imagine they will come back to MH when they are making good isk in Nullsec/Wormholes As a member of a large eve alliance this is true. Many of us are just waiting for the map to open up.
Can I ask a question to you big EvE alliance guys.... Does it matter how much EvE support you get if you can't win a game
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Renegades Bane
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:16:00 -
[66] - Quote
Spartacus Dust wrote:For a full assault on RA, you would need to void the rules of PFC so other corps have clones to attack with.
Speaking from an EVE side though, I highly recommend you try to take districts in Egbinger, (during French hours) or Bosena (during US hours). Since they are pirate areas, and they are least likely to receive orbital support in those areas.
Though I doubt the Coalition has come to this conclusion or it would have happened some time ago when I was asked for assistance on this.
Point being, the Coalition is too disorganized and riddled with lots of spies, and if RA starts losing to many districts they will lock them, and in turn you will just lock yours in fear of them. It's a lose lose situation, where few members in the coalition actually benefit.
PC Mechanics need to be fixed.
PC 2.0 is the answer you've been waiting for.
Whatever coalition Zatara has formed in not aware of. This is something new. More organized is the purpose. But we'll see who will join this...and we'll start planning.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
70
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:22:00 -
[67] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:Can I ask a question to you big EvE alliance guys.... Does it matter how much EvE support you get if you can't win a game
Yes, speaking generally if they remove the PC warbarge, which they will soon, and the enemy can't get orbitals at all and you get one every 3 minutes, it should matter.
If they make it so Clones have to be transported VIA EVE players, this will also change the dynamics since, they will have to avoid large gate camps. The clones will probably die in a ship before reaching the district. Also if they make the new EVE Warbarge customizable and allow for it to hold more clones than a district, it should be pretty easy to take a planet or two in a day.
Keep in mind my alliance and the Dust corps within it are allied with most of you, and unlike you we unlocked our districts, we lost them to AE, if we instead attacked some of our allies districts without Renegade ringing for you anymore, we would probably own quite a few, but we have instead decided to help you guys fight them.
Candidate for CPM1, ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR
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DaNizzle4shizle
Zero-Day Attack
Zero-Day
342
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:25:00 -
[68] - Quote
I just had a great idea. We should have a meeting with RA and tell them that they can keep their current districts. Once PC expands, they should not touch those districts. Leave them to the rest of us. Just a thought I had
Acting CEO of Zero-Day Attack. Forum warrior 0.3
Proud owner of PFC district. Contact me and we can set up a battle time
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2074
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:26:00 -
[69] - Quote
Spartacus Dust wrote:Long Evity wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:
The point of this war isn't to end all wars and create a "better" donut. All donuts are bad. There is away to organize these corps. They need to take risks. This war is to create more wars in the future that aren't these rebellions against donuts. There is away.
I don't think you read at all what I said I am counting on PC opening beyond Molden Heath soon with EVE pilots transporting clones to districts to start with :) I seriously hope you don't think the top corps are ignorant enough to not have any EvE support at all. If anything - top corps will remain top corps because the EvE alliances who want to get involved will want the best - and it won't be from corps who track record in PC is getting removed every other month Lol I didn't say that, I said Renegade has 5 active pilots in the region, translation, their EVE side is fairly insignificant, and if you think a powerful EVE alliance is going to disband to join Renegade, that's not going to happen. If anything, Renegade will disband and join one of the major Nullsec Alliances :/ I only say this because I know how hard it is to convince an EVE player that DUST is worth while. The only place it's even remotely profitable is FW. I recommend corps without EVE support join LRA or Public Disorder. They have a good EVE side so far. Renegade's support is fairly limited in the Region, most of their EVE Forces are very spread out, I don't imagine they will come back to MH when they are making good isk in Nullsec/Wormholes
Hey....
SoTa does it matter how good you mercs are if you can't (when PC 2.0 comes) get a War barge to your destination, N-F will get plenty of it's men back because N-F business model is one of the two that are profitable.
A Merc out (More fights, More ISK) N-F
B Join a big group EVE side (More Supplies, More Support) Top Men, I-RED, SPERG, and some other group I cannot Remember.
Crest of the Stars... good stuff indeed
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
70
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:26:00 -
[70] - Quote
Well in the meantime I suggest we turn our eyes to the EoN you once all rebelled against that is currently taking Renegade Districts :)
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/districts/changes
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
331
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:26:00 -
[71] - Quote
DaNizzle4shizle wrote:I just had a great idea. We should have a meeting with RA and tell them that they can keep their current districts. Once PC expands, they should not touch those districts. Leave them to the rest of us. Just a thought I had
Heres a better idea to speed up the opening of more district is you give RA all of the district or everyone just joins our alliances |
DaNizzle4shizle
Zero-Day Attack
Zero-Day
342
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:28:00 -
[72] - Quote
Mr Machine Guns wrote:DaNizzle4shizle wrote:I just had a great idea. We should have a meeting with RA and tell them that they can keep their current districts. Once PC expands, they should not touch those districts. Leave them to the rest of us. Just a thought I had Heres a better idea to speed up the opening of more district is you give RA all of the district or everyone just joins our alliances
No
Acting CEO of Zero-Day Attack. Forum warrior 0.3
Proud owner of PFC district. Contact me and we can set up a battle time
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
71
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:29:00 -
[73] - Quote
DaNizzle4shizle wrote:I just had a great idea. We should have a meeting with RA and tell them that they can keep their current districts. Once PC expands, they should not touch those districts. Leave them to the rest of us. Just a thought I had
Assuming that EVE players have to transport those clones, it really shouldn't be a problem anyway, expanding RA beyond Molden Heath would be too costly. Again this is only if CCP fixes the PC mechanics with 2.0 :)
A few wardecs will ensure none of their ships even arrive in the area.
Candidate for CPM1, ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
71
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:34:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:DaNizzle4shizle wrote:I just had a great idea. We should have a meeting with RA and tell them that they can keep their current districts. Once PC expands, they should not touch those districts. Leave them to the rest of us. Just a thought I had Heres a better idea to speed up the opening of more district is you give RA all of the district or everyone just joins our alliances
That does sound like a better idea than a disorganized coalition of known back stabbers and people who still work with Renegade Alliance.
Candidate for CPM1, ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR
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Long Evity
1281
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:39:00 -
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I see the question of actually winning the game to be more important then stopping the war barge from arriving. Clones can be sent and used from anyone and NF or FA could simply ring in, but not being able to win a battle in the first place seems more of a pressing concern. Why would your EvE alliance continue to waste time on a losing corp anyways?
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2074
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:49:00 -
[76] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:I see the question of actually winning the game to be more important then stopping the war barge from arriving. Clones can be sent and used from anyone and NF or FA could simply ring in, but not being able to win a battle in the first place seems more of a pressing concern. Why would your EvE alliance continue to waste time on a losing corp anyways?
Agreed... still not every team can be filled with an "A-Team" sometimes the D-Team is what you must make do with... anyways... most get better I used to be a .5 K/D but I've got a weekly of 1.1 or 1.2 nowadays...
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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Texas Killionaire
Capital Acquisitions LLC
37
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:49:00 -
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Renegades Bane wrote:DJINN Loki wrote:meh, ill ring for free, so whoever is leading the this little ragtag party, just toss me a district or two once the smoke settles There will be plenty of districts to go around when the dust has settled. The rewards of winning this war is high. Tremendous experience , around 80 districts opening up for new corps to come in, and a new agreement between the giants of DUST. UFARA - uniting MH for a more competitive environment tomorrow. Our channel will be up soon. Note - that I'm not the leader of this. I have many ideas but the holders of power must come together and decide when to strike. I am but a lowly merc calling all to arms.
Sounds awful. I'd rather the land be with corps that don't lock districts to farm isk. They want to put MH in a boring-a$$ stalemate. If you think that sounds like fun, I have a wall that you can play board games with whenever you want. But you better bring a lunch... It'll take a while...
If you're not ready to lose, you're not ready to win.
Jello Biafra = God
AQUPI
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Long Evity
1281
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:51:00 -
[78] - Quote
Killar-12 wrote:Long Evity wrote:I see the question of actually winning the game to be more important then stopping the war barge from arriving. Clones can be sent and used from anyone and NF or FA could simply ring in, but not being able to win a battle in the first place seems more of a pressing concern. Why would your EvE alliance continue to waste time on a losing corp anyways? Agreed... still not every team can be filled with an "A-Team" sometimes the D-Team is what you must make do with... anyways... most get better I used to be a .5 K/D but I've got a weekly of 1.1 or 1.2 nowadays...
I disagree with your sig, btw. 
A team wins wars, B teams keep wars going, C team starts them. Lol
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Renegades Bane
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:53:00 -
[79] - Quote
Killar-12 wrote:Long Evity wrote:I see the question of actually winning the game to be more important then stopping the war barge from arriving. Clones can be sent and used from anyone and NF or FA could simply ring in, but not being able to win a battle in the first place seems more of a pressing concern. Why would your EvE alliance continue to waste time on a losing corp anyways? Agreed... still not every team can be filled with an "A-Team" sometimes the D-Team is what you must make do with... anyways... most get better I used to be a .5 K/D but I've got a weekly of 1.1 or 1.2 nowadays...
Right. If all the major anti-RA people get on board with this, UFARA A-teams could hold RA A teams back and the so called B and C teams can gain the majority of the land.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Long Evity
1281
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:57:00 -
[80] - Quote
Renegades Bane wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Long Evity wrote:I see the question of actually winning the game to be more important then stopping the war barge from arriving. Clones can be sent and used from anyone and NF or FA could simply ring in, but not being able to win a battle in the first place seems more of a pressing concern. Why would your EvE alliance continue to waste time on a losing corp anyways? Agreed... still not every team can be filled with an "A-Team" sometimes the D-Team is what you must make do with... anyways... most get better I used to be a .5 K/D but I've got a weekly of 1.1 or 1.2 nowadays... Right. If all the major anti-RA people get on board with this, UFARA A-teams could hold RA A teams back and the so called B and C teams can gain the majority of the land.
lol no. C teams can go make there own corp and get good while the A teams make ISK for winning.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Renegades Bane
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:05:00 -
[81] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Long Evity wrote:I see the question of actually winning the game to be more important then stopping the war barge from arriving. Clones can be sent and used from anyone and NF or FA could simply ring in, but not being able to win a battle in the first place seems more of a pressing concern. Why would your EvE alliance continue to waste time on a losing corp anyways? Agreed... still not every team can be filled with an "A-Team" sometimes the D-Team is what you must make do with... anyways... most get better I used to be a .5 K/D but I've got a weekly of 1.1 or 1.2 nowadays... Right. If all the major anti-RA people get on board with this, UFARA A-teams could hold RA A teams back and the so called B and C teams can gain the majority of the land. lol no. C teams can go make there own corp and get good while the A teams make ISK for winning.
Right so in the situation RA is fighting the top dogs...who's defending their other 70+ districts?
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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DJINN Loki
57
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:08:00 -
[82] - Quote
alright, lets do this. so what is everyone doing next weekend? probably not much, so lets set the attacks on Friday and be ready to fight the entire weekend we will all get together around 6AM pacific time Saturday and just attack all RA district's and see what happens. should be fun. also, bring lots of coffee
word
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Long Evity
1283
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:08:00 -
[83] - Quote
Renegades Bane wrote:Long Evity wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Long Evity wrote:I see the question of actually winning the game to be more important then stopping the war barge from arriving. Clones can be sent and used from anyone and NF or FA could simply ring in, but not being able to win a battle in the first place seems more of a pressing concern. Why would your EvE alliance continue to waste time on a losing corp anyways? Agreed... still not every team can be filled with an "A-Team" sometimes the D-Team is what you must make do with... anyways... most get better I used to be a .5 K/D but I've got a weekly of 1.1 or 1.2 nowadays... Right. If all the major anti-RA people get on board with this, UFARA A-teams could hold RA A teams back and the so called B and C teams can gain the majority of the land. lol no. C teams can go make there own corp and get good while the A teams make ISK for winning. Right so in the situation RA is fighting the top dogs...who's defending their other 70+ districts?
Sorry, but if you think C team is going to hold your district for you you're wrong. Especially in a war vs AE / NS. All you'd be doing is giving C team a whooping on.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2074
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:12:00 -
[84] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Long Evity wrote:I see the question of actually winning the game to be more important then stopping the war barge from arriving. Clones can be sent and used from anyone and NF or FA could simply ring in, but not being able to win a battle in the first place seems more of a pressing concern. Why would your EvE alliance continue to waste time on a losing corp anyways? Agreed... still not every team can be filled with an "A-Team" sometimes the D-Team is what you must make do with... anyways... most get better I used to be a .5 K/D but I've got a weekly of 1.1 or 1.2 nowadays... Right. If all the major anti-RA people get on board with this, UFARA A-teams could hold RA A teams back and the so called B and C teams can gain the majority of the land. lol no. C teams can go make there own corp and get good while the A teams make ISK for winning.
NF has multiple A-Teams compared to other corps but for your average group... not nessecarily.
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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Kingseeker Kobra
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
205
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:17:00 -
[85] - Quote
NF is a flawless 6-0 against AE, for the right price we can stomp them out for you while you pick off their stacked timers. Or they can hire us to do the exact opposite.
You can even use EVE isk thru spero escrow service to secure and defend your favorite slice of RA pie.
Ariana glitches 31 free kills and loses anyways, LMFAO @ AE GARBAGE
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Long Evity
1283
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:20:00 -
[86] - Quote
Killar-12 wrote:Long Evity wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Long Evity wrote:I see the question of actually winning the game to be more important then stopping the war barge from arriving. Clones can be sent and used from anyone and NF or FA could simply ring in, but not being able to win a battle in the first place seems more of a pressing concern. Why would your EvE alliance continue to waste time on a losing corp anyways? Agreed... still not every team can be filled with an "A-Team" sometimes the D-Team is what you must make do with... anyways... most get better I used to be a .5 K/D but I've got a weekly of 1.1 or 1.2 nowadays... Right. If all the major anti-RA people get on board with this, UFARA A-teams could hold RA A teams back and the so called B and C teams can gain the majority of the land. lol no. C teams can go make there own corp and get good while the A teams make ISK for winning. NF has multiple A-Teams compared to other corps but for your average group... not nessecarily.
I'm all for more groups entering PC - but PC is still a part of New Eden - thus very harsh. The average player won't find much solace in PC, or safety. PC, as it is with it's size, was pretty much designed for the 1% best to dominate the other 99% casuals. I don't much like it myself, as it drives away the community, but it makes sense. If it only requires 16 people to win a game, then you only really need 50 active players do run an empire corp and maintain up to the same amount of districts. They would burn out if constantly attacked - but they won't be. Because no one wants to lose.
The point is: Bad players make no difference in this game. C teams are non-factors, almost to the point it's maddening CCP thought PC ready for launch.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
1283
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:21:00 -
[87] - Quote
Kingseeker Kobra wrote:NF is a flawless 6-0 against AE, for the right price we can stomp them out for you while you pick off their stacked timers. Or they can hire us to do the exact opposite.
You can even use EVE isk thru spero escrow service to secure and defend your favorite slice of RA pie.
Act now and I'll throw in anime! :3
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
72
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:21:00 -
[88] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:I see the question of actually winning the game to be more important then stopping the war barge from arriving. Clones can be sent and used from anyone and NF or FA could simply ring in, but not being able to win a battle in the first place seems more of a pressing concern. Why would your EvE alliance continue to waste time on a losing corp anyways?
You have a lot of mix ideas of what winning and losing are.
Losing is losing your members or having them stop playing
Losing is spending isk and having your transportation die before it gets to the battle.
Losing is spending a clone pack to attack an alliance you can't defeat simply because they have more clones than you.
Winning is your corp having fun at the end of the day and staying active.
Winning is killing your enemy before they can touch you, coincidentally we can't really be touched outside of pub matches, since we have no districts, our isk is safe and we are making more everyday and are coming up with ways to make more in the "Great Depression of Molden Heath"
What's ultimately going to happen in this coalition is that a few corps will get districts out of it, districts they will probably lose again to RA, they will have used up a lot of their isk and soon go bankrupt, RA will still stay as strong as ever, they will lock districts if they lose to many to maintain their isk flow. Bottom line that's what's going to happen.
In the mean time I will be building both EVE and DUST forces so when we do expand we are nothing to be trifled with :)
Candidate for CPM1, ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR
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Long Evity
1283
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:28:00 -
[89] - Quote
Spartacus Dust wrote:Long Evity wrote:I see the question of actually winning the game to be more important then stopping the war barge from arriving. Clones can be sent and used from anyone and NF or FA could simply ring in, but not being able to win a battle in the first place seems more of a pressing concern. Why would your EvE alliance continue to waste time on a losing corp anyways? You have a lot of mix ideas of what winning and losing are. Losing is losing your members or having them stop playing Losing is spending isk and having your transportation die before it gets to the battle. Losing is spending a clone pack to attack an alliance you can't defeat simply because they have more clones than you. Winning is your corp having fun at the end of the day and staying active. Winning is killing your enemy before they can touch you, coincidentally we can't really be touched outside of pub matches, since we have no districts, our isk is safe and we are making more everyday and are coming up with ways to make more in the "Great Depression of Molden Heath" What's ultimately going to happen in this coalition is that a few corps will get districts out of it, districts they will probably lose again to RA, they will have used up a lot of their isk and soon go bankrupt, RA will still stay as strong as ever, they will lock districts if they lose to many to maintain their isk flow. Bottom line that's what's going to happen. In the mean time I will be building both EVE and DUST forces so when we do expand we are nothing to be trifled with :)
I'm not going to read this. Simply because winning is making ISK - losing is losing ISK. That's all there is to it for me, and any real mercenary. IDK why guy pretend to play soldier in a mercenary game, but you'll see the light someday. Holding districts is more for your CEO/directors benefit then the average player.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Renegades Bane
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:36:00 -
[90] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:Long Evity wrote:I see the question of actually winning the game to be more important then stopping the war barge from arriving. Clones can be sent and used from anyone and NF or FA could simply ring in, but not being able to win a battle in the first place seems more of a pressing concern. Why would your EvE alliance continue to waste time on a losing corp anyways? You have a lot of mix ideas of what winning and losing are. Losing is losing your members or having them stop playing Losing is spending isk and having your transportation die before it gets to the battle. Losing is spending a clone pack to attack an alliance you can't defeat simply because they have more clones than you. Winning is your corp having fun at the end of the day and staying active. Winning is killing your enemy before they can touch you, coincidentally we can't really be touched outside of pub matches, since we have no districts, our isk is safe and we are making more everyday and are coming up with ways to make more in the "Great Depression of Molden Heath" What's ultimately going to happen in this coalition is that a few corps will get districts out of it, districts they will probably lose again to RA, they will have used up a lot of their isk and soon go bankrupt, RA will still stay as strong as ever, they will lock districts if they lose to many to maintain their isk flow. Bottom line that's what's going to happen. In the mean time I will be building both EVE and DUST forces so when we do expand we are nothing to be trifled with :) I'm not going to read this. Simply because winning is making ISK - losing is losing ISK. That's all there is to it for me, and any real mercenary. IDK why guy pretend to play soldier in a mercenary game, but you'll see the light someday. Holding districts is more for your CEO/directors benefit then the average player.
We play soldier because you 30 million sp closed beta players have monopolized the merc business. And anyone worth anything, meaning, PC stars are in established corps or already in the little merry band of mercs that charge absurd amounts.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2338
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:38:00 -
[91] - Quote
Spartacus Dust wrote:We've been attacking Renegade for a while. Unfortunately a lot of you have pissed us off in the meantime. I can't exactly help Zatara when he's in an alliance that talks smack about mine, and supposedly he's leading a coalition, one that was suppose to attack renegade a few days ago in masses, but failed to do so, translation, the coalition is an unorganized cluster**** with people only working towards what benefits them, with the exception of a few.
It was not long ago SVER was helping Renegade kill me, now they are killing each other.
I think I will just wait, if we're at 1.8 I can only imagine PC 2.0 is around the corner. If it truly is EVE players transporting clones as stated in the EVE Vegas presentation, none of you will have anything to worry about, since most DUST corps have little to no EVE side. Renegade has about 5 active pilots in the area, between PD. LRA. and myself. It shouldn't be too hard to set up a gate camp and pop their ships before they can even get to a planet.
LRA feels the same way. The coalition is poorly planned and poorly led. We are happy to sit back with some popcorn to see what happens.
What will be your legacy? Will you rise, or will you fall?
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
75
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:39:00 -
[92] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:I'm not going to read this. Simply because winning is making ISK - losing is losing ISK. That's all there is to it for me, and any real mercenary. IDK why guy pretend to play soldier in a mercenary game, but you'll see the light someday. Holding districts is more for your CEO/directors benefit then the average player.
So if I am making isk, I am winning? So why do you say my corps are losing, they are making isk, our alliance is making isk and we are growing, we're only a few weeks old.
Candidate for CPM1, ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR
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Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2341
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:43:00 -
[93] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:
The point of this war isn't to end all wars and create a "better" donut. All donuts are bad. There is away to organize these corps. They need to take risks. This war is to create more wars in the future that aren't these rebellions against donuts. There is away.
I don't think you read at all what I said I am counting on PC opening beyond Molden Heath soon with EVE pilots transporting clones to districts to start with :) I seriously hope you don't think the top corps are ignorant enough to not have any EvE support at all. If anything - top corps will remain top corps because the EvE alliances who want to get involved will want the best - and it won't be from corps who track record in PC is getting removed every other month Lol
You are undersestimating the value the Dust currenlty offers to Eve. The most Dust offers is the possibility of good fights. This limits the number of Eve alliances interested in a Dust corporation. The only alliances in game that have a significant interest in Dust that they are willing to field actual fleets are Legacy Rising, Public Disorder, and The Corvos, in all honesty.
Eve side, the residents in Moden Heath do not care about Dust, other than it gives them a destroyer to kill every once in a while.
As for wanting the best, I can tell you that Legacy doesn't want the "best" corps as these rise and fall. What we want the "really good" corps that have a desire to see both games grow closer together, so that we are there for the long run.
What will be your legacy? Will you rise, or will you fall?
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
75
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:43:00 -
[94] - Quote
Last but not least, Anything in NEW EDEN takes time. It takes time to become a skilled pilot, and it takes time to be a skilled merc, likewise it takes time to skill into that stuff.
I understand these things. Everyone is so worried about Molden Heath despite PC 2.0 opening beyond MH
Candidate for CPM1, ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR
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Marad''er
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
586
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:43:00 -
[95] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:Kingseeker Kobra wrote:NF is a flawless 6-0 against AE, for the right price we can stomp them out for you while you pick off their stacked timers. Or they can hire us to do the exact opposite.
You can even use EVE isk thru spero escrow service to secure and defend your favorite slice of RA pie.
Act now and I'll throw in anime! :3
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2076
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:44:00 -
[96] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Long Evity wrote:lol no. C teams can go make there own corp and get good while the A teams make ISK for winning. NF has multiple A-Teams compared to other corps but for your average group... not nessecarily. I'm all for more groups entering PC - but PC is still a part of New Eden - thus very harsh. The average player won't find much solace in PC, or safety. PC, as it is with it's size, was pretty much designed for the 1% best to dominate the other 99% casuals. I don't much like it myself, as it drives away the community, but it makes sense. If it only requires 16 people to win a game, then you only really need 50 active players do run an empire corp and maintain up to the same amount of districts. They would burn out if constantly attacked - but they won't be. Because no one wants to lose. The point is: Bad players make no difference in this game. C teams are non-factors, almost to the point it's maddening CCP thought PC ready for launch.
Bad Players can make a difference, losing battles they're useful in other ways... seriously you can find a way for everyone to be useful...  C-teams are still better than D-Teams or E-Teams(Renamed FWA-Teams)
A-Team (+5 W/L in PC win the battle best available Great Vets)
B-Team (+2 W/L in PC Win the battle, solid players, not bad but still capable Great newbies/Good vets)
C-Team (1 W/L in PC Hope for a win need Training Good newbies/mediocre vets)
D-Team (>1 W/L in PC Don't want to no show Needs Training Mediocre newbies/bad vets)
FWA-Team (>.00000000000000001 W/L in PC Really New/Bad newbies/Casuals I don't want to no show/ I want to give CBJ a fair fight)
I'll go into more detail later.
Speaking on the subject Soldiers seem to do well Ask Cubs or Mavado about how EoN did so well. they didn't merc they were land barons, look at RA and ask Kujo about how well soldiering works. 2 different playstyles
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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Long Evity
1283
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:45:00 -
[97] - Quote
Spartacus Dust wrote:Long Evity wrote:I'm not going to read this. Simply because winning is making ISK - losing is losing ISK. That's all there is to it for me, and any real mercenary. IDK why guy pretend to play soldier in a mercenary game, but you'll see the light someday. Holding districts is more for your CEO/directors benefit then the average player. So if I am making isk, I am winning? So why do you say my corps are losing, they are making isk, our alliance is making isk and we are growing, we're only a few weeks old.
Awesome - you're winning. How many total corps in this game do you honestly see making any real ISK? It's very few. Pat yourself on the back.
It's just that certain corps are winning more then you are.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Long Evity
1283
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:47:00 -
[98] - Quote
Killar-12 wrote:Long Evity wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Long Evity wrote:lol no. C teams can go make there own corp and get good while the A teams make ISK for winning. NF has multiple A-Teams compared to other corps but for your average group... not nessecarily. I'm all for more groups entering PC - but PC is still a part of New Eden - thus very harsh. The average player won't find much solace in PC, or safety. PC, as it is with it's size, was pretty much designed for the 1% best to dominate the other 99% casuals. I don't much like it myself, as it drives away the community, but it makes sense. If it only requires 16 people to win a game, then you only really need 50 active players do run an empire corp and maintain up to the same amount of districts. They would burn out if constantly attacked - but they won't be. Because no one wants to lose. The point is: Bad players make no difference in this game. C teams are non-factors, almost to the point it's maddening CCP thought PC ready for launch. Bad Players can make a difference, losing battles they're useful in other ways... seriously you can find a way for everyone to be useful... C-teams are still better than D-Teams or E-Teams(Renamed FWA-Teams ) A-Team (+5 W/L in PC win the battle best available Great Vets) B-Team (+2 W/L in PC Win the battle, solid players, not bad but still capable Great newbies/Good vets) C-Team (1 W/L in PC Hope for a win need Training Good newbies/mediocre vets) D-Team (>1 W/L in PC Don't want to no show Needs Training Mediocre newbies/bad vets) FWA-Team (>.00000000000000001 W/L in PC Really New/Bad newbies/Casuals I don't want to no show/ I want to give CBJ a fair fight) I'll go into more detail later. Speaking on the subject Soldiers seem to do well Ask Cubs or Mavado about how EoN did so well. they didn't merc they were land barons, look at RA and ask Kujo about how well soldiering works. 2 different playstyles
They became land barons through mercing - no one stopped them, so they didn't stop. It was never EoN's original attention to be the massive land-holders. They had much the same start NF did.
And your concept of 'teams' is lacking, after A team the W/L ratio drastically drops.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2076
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:57:00 -
[99] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Long Evity wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Long Evity wrote:lol no. C teams can go make there own corp and get good while the A teams make ISK for winning. NF has multiple A-Teams compared to other corps but for your average group... not nessecarily. I'm all for more groups entering PC - but PC is still a part of New Eden - thus very harsh. The average player won't find much solace in PC, or safety. PC, as it is with it's size, was pretty much designed for the 1% best to dominate the other 99% casuals. I don't much like it myself, as it drives away the community, but it makes sense. If it only requires 16 people to win a game, then you only really need 50 active players do run an empire corp and maintain up to the same amount of districts. They would burn out if constantly attacked - but they won't be. Because no one wants to lose. The point is: Bad players make no difference in this game. C teams are non-factors, almost to the point it's maddening CCP thought PC ready for launch. Bad Players can make a difference, losing battles they're useful in other ways... seriously you can find a way for everyone to be useful... C-teams are still better than D-Teams or E-Teams(Renamed FWA-Teams ) A-Team (+5 W/L in PC win the battle best available Great Vets) B-Team (+2 W/L in PC Win the battle, solid players, not bad but still capable Great newbies/Good vets) C-Team (1 W/L in PC Hope for a win need Training Good newbies/mediocre vets) D-Team (>1 W/L in PC Don't want to no show Needs Training Mediocre newbies/bad vets) FWA-Team (>.00000000000000001 W/L in PC Really New/Bad newbies/Casuals I don't want to no show/ I want to give CBJ a fair fight) I'll go into more detail later. Speaking on the subject Soldiers seem to do well Ask Cubs or Mavado about how EoN did so well. they didn't merc they were land barons, look at RA and ask Kujo about how well soldiering works. 2 different playstyles They became land barons through mercing - no one stopped them, so they didn't stop. It was never EoN's original attention to be the massive land-holders. They had much the same start NF did. And your concept of 'teams' is lacking, after A team the W/L ratio drastically drops. Saying B team wins 1 out of 3 matches is about right.
We've got a different perspective then... I'd feel there's a need for standardization on this 'team' stuff NF is a wholly different beast than EoN was, N-F IMO was much smaller and more streamlined EoN was larger and more sweeping.
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
75
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:05:00 -
[100] - Quote
I dunno, my alts are in the CFC, I make plenty of isk that all goes to me, which I can't say for the same as RA, their isk only goes to their corp/alliance and a select few members. their players really don't make that much. DUST isk is laughable compared to EVE isk.
I can't really talk smack about you long, I dunno who your alt is, just that you have some reason to hide it, but if you think I'm concerned about isk, when I make more than most, (thanks to blink for getting my start up funds) you would be incorrect sir.
Candidate for CPM1, ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
77
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:07:00 -
[101] - Quote
It wasn't long ago Dust players were getting eve accounts and buying plex to give me isk for us to clear the planet so they could drop orbitals :) I think I am winning more than most.
Candidate for CPM1, ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR
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Long Evity
1285
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:09:00 -
[102] - Quote
NF policy has always been A Teamers only (In belief). B team and C team (In belief) just slow things down, and there's no reason for a player to be labelled into lower category teams. If you have a desire to win, make ISK, and be the best, then you'll find a way too - and then you'll be a perfect match to join NF - as I believe in effort > talent until you reach high tier games, where talent makes a little more of a push then effort. But effort will get you anywhere in this game.
People who claim lettered teams even exist are just show casing that there corp/alliance has people who care and people who don't care as much. Though there are relevant factors such as life - that's pretty much the bottom line of it.
B, C, D, E, F teams - are non factors. They won't hold your districts, at best they can be used to show up for a stacked timer game and get lucky that the other side no shows - but why rely on those tactics?
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
333
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:09:00 -
[103] - Quote
Spartacus Dust wrote:I dunno, my alts are in the CFC, I make plenty of isk that all goes to me, which I can't say for the same as RA, their isk only goes to their corp/alliance and a select few members. their players really don't make that much. DUST isk is laughable compared to EVE isk.
I can't really talk smack about you long, I dunno who your alt is, just that you have some reason to hide it, but if you think I'm concerned about isk, when I make more than most, (thanks to blink for getting my start up funds) you would be incorrect sir.
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2079
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:11:00 -
[104] - Quote
Spartacus Dust wrote:I dunno, my alts are in the CFC, I make plenty of isk that all goes to me, which I can't say for the same as RA, their isk only goes to their corp/alliance and a select few members. their players really don't make that much. DUST isk is laughable compared to EVE isk.
I can't really talk smack about you long, I dunno who your alt is, just that you have some reason to hide it, but if you think I'm concerned about isk, when I make more than most, (thanks to blink for getting my start up funds) you would be incorrect sir.
Long=Sota Pop Read the above post for more info
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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Long Evity
1285
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:11:00 -
[105] - Quote
Spartacus Dust wrote:I dunno, my alts are in the CFC, I make plenty of isk that all goes to me, which I can't say for the same as RA, their isk only goes to their corp/alliance and a select few members. their players really don't make that much. DUST isk is laughable compared to EVE isk.
I can't really talk smack about you long, I dunno who your alt is, just that you have some reason to hide it, but if you think I'm concerned about isk, when I make more than most, (thanks to blink for getting my start up funds) you would be incorrect sir.
I make no accusation on any single player - but on groups. If you're already making plenty of ISK then the land owners of MH are of no concern to you - you're already winning.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Kingseeker Kobra
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
206
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:12:00 -
[106] - Quote
Spartacus Dust wrote:It wasn't long ago Dust players were getting eve accounts and buying plex to give me isk for us to clear the planet so they could drop orbitals :) I think I am winning more than most.
Why not use all that eve isk to secure and defend a district? We all but guarantee results! Locked districts are not an issue either. You can even hire 11 of us at a time to give 5 of your men PC experience with the big dogs.
Ariana glitches 31 free kills and loses anyways, LMFAO @ AE GARBAGE
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
77
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:14:00 -
[107] - Quote
Killar-12 wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:I dunno, my alts are in the CFC, I make plenty of isk that all goes to me, which I can't say for the same as RA, their isk only goes to their corp/alliance and a select few members. their players really don't make that much. DUST isk is laughable compared to EVE isk.
I can't really talk smack about you long, I dunno who your alt is, just that you have some reason to hide it, but if you think I'm concerned about isk, when I make more than most, (thanks to blink for getting my start up funds) you would be incorrect sir. Long=Sota Pop Read the above post for more info
That makes life easier,
so they are the ones currently taking districts from RA, hats off :)
Candidate for CPM1, ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2079
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:16:00 -
[108] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:NF policy has always been A Teamers only (In belief). B team and C team (In belief) just slow things down, and there's no reason for a player to be labelled into lower category teams. If you have a desire to win, make ISK, and be the best, then you'll find a way too - and then you'll be a perfect match to join NF - as I believe in effort > talent until you reach high tier games, where talent makes a little more of a push then effort. But effort will get you anywhere in this game.
People who claim lettered teams even exist are just show casing that there corp/alliance has people who care and people who don't care as much. Though there are relevant factors such as life - that's pretty much the bottom line of it.
B, C, D, E, F teams - are non factors. They won't hold your districts, at best they can be used to show up for a stacked timer game and get lucky that the other side no shows - but why rely on those tactics?
Damn SoTa I can't come to dislike you every response has given me a little bit of hope about the community, same with cubs...
I make ISK so I'm happy I've got Pubs and I've got "resources" both of which bring ISK at a ****** and a incredible rate respectively.
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
77
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:17:00 -
[109] - Quote
Kingseeker Kobra wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:It wasn't long ago Dust players were getting eve accounts and buying plex to give me isk for us to clear the planet so they could drop orbitals :) I think I am winning more than most. Why not use all that eve isk to secure and defend a district? We all but guarantee results! Locked districts are not an issue either. You can even hire 11 of us at a time to give 5 of your men PC experience with the big dogs.
Because district mechanics are broken, most people want EVE players to use escrow to get isk instead of just up front EVE isk, and DUST players seem to think their districts are worth more than they are. I'll be patient and wait for the market to open and PC to expand.
Candidate for CPM1, ONE UNIVERSE//ONE WAR
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Renegades Bane
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:17:00 -
[110] - Quote
Listen, this is a call to arms. It doesn't matter if it's called UFARA or NFEC or whatever. It was an idea. It looks like I will have to put more effort into it. I'm hoping that somehow these corps interested in defeating RA read this post and are contacting each other to make it happen.
To all you dogs of war. Forget that I called you to arms. I'm just making you aware that there will be a lot of PC and a lot of Isk for you. Doesn't matter if it comes from RA or this coalition. If the corps that can make a difference come together and decide to buy you guys that great for UFARA ( I'm just going to call it that ) . What I will say is this. "Siding" with the people taking down RA is an investment if it's done right. If things become "fair" after AE, Nyain San , and those that back RA are taken down a peg, then this could mean way more jobs for you in the future. That's just my opinion but I honestly believe it will be a better environment for all.
I hope people stop complaining about AE and Nyain San and hurry up and use common sense and unite for one time and take them down. Afterwards we can go back to destroying each other. But plz if that happens....no more donuts....
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2081
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:24:00 -
[111] - Quote
Renegades Bane wrote:Listen, this is a call to arms. It doesn't matter if it's called UFARA or NFEC or whatever. It was an idea. It looks like I will have to put more effort into it. I'm hoping that somehow these corps interested in defeating RA read this post and are contacting each other to make it happen.
To all you dogs of war. Forget that I called you to arms. I'm just making you aware that there will be a lot of PC and a lot of Isk for you. Doesn't matter if it comes from RA or this coalition. If the corps that can make a difference come together and decide to buy you guys that great for UFARA ( I'm just going to call it that ) . What I will say is this. "Siding" with the people taking down RA is an investment if it's done right. If things become "fair" after AE, Nyain San , and those that back RA are taken down a peg, then this could mean way more jobs for you in the future. That's just my opinion but I honestly believe it will be a better environment for all.
I hope people stop complaining about AE and Nyain San and hurry up and use common sense and unite for one time and take them down. Afterwards we can go back to destroying each other. But plz if that happens....no more donuts....
Charfacts we know it's you
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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Renegades Bane
UFARA
10
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:34:00 -
[112] - Quote
Killar-12 wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:Listen, this is a call to arms. It doesn't matter if it's called UFARA or NFEC or whatever. It was an idea. It looks like I will have to put more effort into it. I'm hoping that somehow these corps interested in defeating RA read this post and are contacting each other to make it happen.
To all you dogs of war. Forget that I called you to arms. I'm just making you aware that there will be a lot of PC and a lot of Isk for you. Doesn't matter if it comes from RA or this coalition. If the corps that can make a difference come together and decide to buy you guys that great for UFARA ( I'm just going to call it that ) . What I will say is this. "Siding" with the people taking down RA is an investment if it's done right. If things become "fair" after AE, Nyain San , and those that back RA are taken down a peg, then this could mean way more jobs for you in the future. That's just my opinion but I honestly believe it will be a better environment for all.
I hope people stop complaining about AE and Nyain San and hurry up and use common sense and unite for one time and take them down. Afterwards we can go back to destroying each other. But plz if that happens....no more donuts.... Charfacts we know it's you
Trust me, you have no idea who this is.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
333
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:36:00 -
[113] - Quote
Renegades Bane wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:Listen, this is a call to arms. It doesn't matter if it's called UFARA or NFEC or whatever. It was an idea. It looks like I will have to put more effort into it. I'm hoping that somehow these corps interested in defeating RA read this post and are contacting each other to make it happen.
To all you dogs of war. Forget that I called you to arms. I'm just making you aware that there will be a lot of PC and a lot of Isk for you. Doesn't matter if it comes from RA or this coalition. If the corps that can make a difference come together and decide to buy you guys that great for UFARA ( I'm just going to call it that ) . What I will say is this. "Siding" with the people taking down RA is an investment if it's done right. If things become "fair" after AE, Nyain San , and those that back RA are taken down a peg, then this could mean way more jobs for you in the future. That's just my opinion but I honestly believe it will be a better environment for all.
I hope people stop complaining about AE and Nyain San and hurry up and use common sense and unite for one time and take them down. Afterwards we can go back to destroying each other. But plz if that happens....no more donuts.... Charfacts we know it's you Trust me, you have no idea who this is.
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Renegades Bane
UFARA
13
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:41:00 -
[114] - Quote
Mr Machine Guns wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:Listen, this is a call to arms. It doesn't matter if it's called UFARA or NFEC or whatever. It was an idea. It looks like I will have to put more effort into it. I'm hoping that somehow these corps interested in defeating RA read this post and are contacting each other to make it happen.
To all you dogs of war. Forget that I called you to arms. I'm just making you aware that there will be a lot of PC and a lot of Isk for you. Doesn't matter if it comes from RA or this coalition. If the corps that can make a difference come together and decide to buy you guys that great for UFARA ( I'm just going to call it that ) . What I will say is this. "Siding" with the people taking down RA is an investment if it's done right. If things become "fair" after AE, Nyain San , and those that back RA are taken down a peg, then this could mean way more jobs for you in the future. That's just my opinion but I honestly believe it will be a better environment for all.
I hope people stop complaining about AE and Nyain San and hurry up and use common sense and unite for one time and take them down. Afterwards we can go back to destroying each other. But plz if that happens....no more donuts.... Charfacts we know it's you Trust me, you have no idea who this is. If you say who you are we can say if we know you or not
Lol why would I do that? So you can harass my corp? I know how this works. I'll "hide" behind my alt like everyone else here.
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
693
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:50:00 -
[115] - Quote
so... does anyone else think it's kind of detrimental to your plans to announce you're blitzing them?
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
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Long Evity
1286
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:52:00 -
[116] - Quote
Renegades Bane wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:Listen, this is a call to arms. It doesn't matter if it's called UFARA or NFEC or whatever. It was an idea. It looks like I will have to put more effort into it. I'm hoping that somehow these corps interested in defeating RA read this post and are contacting each other to make it happen.
To all you dogs of war. Forget that I called you to arms. I'm just making you aware that there will be a lot of PC and a lot of Isk for you. Doesn't matter if it comes from RA or this coalition. If the corps that can make a difference come together and decide to buy you guys that great for UFARA ( I'm just going to call it that ) . What I will say is this. "Siding" with the people taking down RA is an investment if it's done right. If things become "fair" after AE, Nyain San , and those that back RA are taken down a peg, then this could mean way more jobs for you in the future. That's just my opinion but I honestly believe it will be a better environment for all.
I hope people stop complaining about AE and Nyain San and hurry up and use common sense and unite for one time and take them down. Afterwards we can go back to destroying each other. But plz if that happens....no more donuts.... Charfacts we know it's you Trust me, you have no idea who this is. If you say who you are we can say if we know you or not Lol why would I do that? So you can harass my corp? I know how this works. I'll "hide" behind my alt like everyone else here.
Check around - besides me, who everyone knows - you're the only one on an alt :D
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
611
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:54:00 -
[117] - Quote
Renegades Bane wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Please not now seriously, bad timing for many. This isn't going to happen over night killer. Takes more than a forum post. We need to organize.
Agreed and duly noted.
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
611
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:56:00 -
[118] - Quote
Killar-12 wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:NobIesse Oblige wrote:FA are noobs and thus incapable of achieving any goals.
We need to have an Unreal disband and then A PFBHz Disband and then a few corps corp so we can become a super corp...in the meantime we'll just keep scouring pubs for more scrubs.
Toodles~ agree everyone just joins together in one corp and we own 100% of MH Let's make Contra Ban Joe happy and make FWA that corp
LMFAO!!!!
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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Dachande Anasazi
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
128
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Posted - 2014.01.25 00:21:00 -
[119] - Quote
Renegades Bane wrote:It is time brothers and sisters!! This is bullshit!!!! Nyain San , AE. , and all that stand by them must fall!! PD!! How long will you sit by and attack those that mean you no harm?! Put aside your differences everyone! It must be done!! Cubs!! Zatara !! Ydubbs!! Quickgloves!! Mike Ruan!! Radar!! Where are the leaders and elites of DUST? Isn't it time for RA to fall like EoN? This must be done. No longer will they overshadow us! Unite as one! Let them here the outcries of the community!! Let them feel our rage. Let us devour this donut like no other was before! And from its crumbs let us keep watch so that another donut does not rise!!! They complain about not having a fight...let's give them one. Now more than ever MH needs to be cleansed. They will pay for their imperialist ways! Small corps!! This is now your time! Overshadowed alliances!! Now is the time to strike. Forget about the Isk but if it's your goal...they own more than 50% of MH and if you count their puppets they have even more in there sphere of influence!
Nyain San as it is now can not withstand a blitz by 20 corps!! Nearly all their timers are on the same time. Their arrogance will be their downfall!! They make billion per day! Do the math!
AE!!! How many pub star teams can you throw together I wonder?
DDB you could've been a leader after you left PD, but instead you side with them. Leave them now before your fate is sealed along with theirs! Join us!! The United Front Against Renegade Alliance !!
Join UFARA now!!
STB, MOLON, Phoenix Fed, OH, TOP, PX1 , KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND, Fatal Absolution , Valor Coalition , zero-day attack, HELLSTORM , men in black ops , the dystopian corporation, what the French, WARRAVENS , kill-em-quick, TEAMPLAYERS, RND, eternal beings, Grupo de asalto, rebelion TLC, 3dge of D4arkness, TSOLE, Red-scorpion - Latinos , ultramarine corp, the generals , subsonic, synthesis , forsaken immortals , Latinos killers corp, all others out there!! Break your ties with RA!! Set aside your dislike for one another and start fighting!!!
To Renegade I say this. Surrender now or prepare to see your empire fall. Abandon your districts until you hold only 15 or less or give then up peacefully. If not, you shall see.
How is it in our interest to attack them.
International relations 101. Realism: Nations do what is in their best interest. Is it in our interest to attack them? Unless they come for our districts and we need to defend our resources (isk) then sure. Otherwise they ain't attacking us, and currently we are happy with the districts we have and if we want more there are many other corps we can attack and get gains more easily.
By WE I do not mean Titans of Phoenix. I mean any of the corps you are asking to attack RA - what is our INCENTIVE. that they have more money and are more powerful? In International relations 'balance of power theory' has been proven false. Because there aren't any countries forming alliances against USA. Rather 'Balance of Threat theory' is more accurate. Is RA a threat to the corps you mentioned? Are they perceived to be threats to the corps and by the corps you mentioned?
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NobIesse Oblige
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
76
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Posted - 2014.01.25 00:21:00 -
[120] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:NF policy has always been A Teamers only (In belief). B team and C team (In belief) just slow things down, and there's no reason for a player to be labelled into lower category teams. If you have a desire to win, make ISK, and be the best, then you'll find a way too - and then you'll be a perfect match to join NF - as I believe in effort > talent until you reach high tier games, where talent makes a little more of a push then effort. But effort will get you anywhere in this game.
People who claim lettered teams even exist are just show casing that there corp/alliance has people who care and people who don't care as much. Though there are relevant factors such as life - that's pretty much the bottom line of it.
B, C, D, E, F teams - are non factors. They won't hold your districts, at best they can be used to show up for a stacked timer game and get lucky that the other side no shows - but why rely on those tactics?
When you're B-team > 95% others A-team. Then you got the right idea. |
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Dachande Anasazi
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
128
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Posted - 2014.01.25 00:23:00 -
[121] - Quote
Derrith Erador wrote:so... does anyone else think it's kind of detrimental to your plans to announce you're blitzing them?
Wow I went all polsci on him last post. But good War and Strat dude.
Why the HELL did you announce it. Might be better to IN GAME mail this.
OP EPIC FAILED this one. |
Dachande Anasazi
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
128
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Posted - 2014.01.25 00:24:00 -
[122] - Quote
CUBS UNbanned Alt wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:Profit!! There is no profit in this. Take the land. It is yours for the taking but be fair. They haven't. Put aside the Isk this one time and without even knowing it you'll gain ore Isk that you could possibly spend and all of you already have more than you can spend.
His isn't just my voice. It isn't my will alone. no profit?? sorry I don't understand what that means. could anyone please translate?
International relations 101. This man understands it. WHERE is the interest of the corps you mentioned OP?
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Renegades Bane
UFARA
15
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Posted - 2014.01.25 00:27:00 -
[123] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:It is time brothers and sisters!! This is bullshit!!!! Nyain San , AE. , and all that stand by them must fall!! PD!! How long will you sit by and attack those that mean you no harm?! Put aside your differences everyone! It must be done!! Cubs!! Zatara !! Ydubbs!! Quickgloves!! Mike Ruan!! Radar!! Where are the leaders and elites of DUST? Isn't it time for RA to fall like EoN? This must be done. No longer will they overshadow us! Unite as one! Let them here the outcries of the community!! Let them feel our rage. Let us devour this donut like no other was before! And from its crumbs let us keep watch so that another donut does not rise!!! They complain about not having a fight...let's give them one. Now more than ever MH needs to be cleansed. They will pay for their imperialist ways! Small corps!! This is now your time! Overshadowed alliances!! Now is the time to strike. Forget about the Isk but if it's your goal...they own more than 50% of MH and if you count their puppets they have even more in there sphere of influence!
Nyain San as it is now can not withstand a blitz by 20 corps!! Nearly all their timers are on the same time. Their arrogance will be their downfall!! They make billion per day! Do the math!
AE!!! How many pub star teams can you throw together I wonder?
DDB you could've been a leader after you left PD, but instead you side with them. Leave them now before your fate is sealed along with theirs! Join us!! The United Front Against Renegade Alliance !!
Join UFARA now!!
STB, MOLON, Phoenix Fed, OH, TOP, PX1 , KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND, Fatal Absolution , Valor Coalition , zero-day attack, HELLSTORM , men in black ops , the dystopian corporation, what the French, WARRAVENS , kill-em-quick, TEAMPLAYERS, RND, eternal beings, Grupo de asalto, rebelion TLC, 3dge of D4arkness, TSOLE, Red-scorpion - Latinos , ultramarine corp, the generals , subsonic, synthesis , forsaken immortals , Latinos killers corp, all others out there!! Break your ties with RA!! Set aside your dislike for one another and start fighting!!!
To Renegade I say this. Surrender now or prepare to see your empire fall. Abandon your districts until you hold only 15 or less or give then up peacefully. If not, you shall see. How is it in our interest to attack them. International relations 101. Realism: Nations do what is in their best interest. Is it in our interest to attack them? Unless they come for our districts and we need to defend our resources (isk) then sure. Otherwise they ain't attacking us, and currently we are happy with the districts we have and if we want more there are many other corps we can attack and get gains more easily. By WE I do not mean Titans of Phoenix. I mean any of the corps you are asking to attack RA - what is our INCENTIVE. that they have more money and are more powerful? In International relations 'balance of power theory' has been proven false. Because there aren't any countries forming alliances against USA. Rather 'Balance of Threat theory' is more accurate. Is RA a threat to the corps you mentioned? Are they perceived to be threats to the corps and by the corps you mentioned?
I named corps currently in PC. And no not only them. They were examples of corps that may find this interesting and rewarding. There are others I could name. If TOP doesn't want any more land then just do it for he battles. The really challenging battles.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Dachande Anasazi
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
128
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Posted - 2014.01.25 00:28:00 -
[124] - Quote
NobIesse Oblige wrote:Long Evity wrote:NF policy has always been A Teamers only (In belief). B team and C team (In belief) just slow things down, and there's no reason for a player to be labelled into lower category teams. If you have a desire to win, make ISK, and be the best, then you'll find a way too - and then you'll be a perfect match to join NF - as I believe in effort > talent until you reach high tier games, where talent makes a little more of a push then effort. But effort will get you anywhere in this game.
People who claim lettered teams even exist are just show casing that there corp/alliance has people who care and people who don't care as much. Though there are relevant factors such as life - that's pretty much the bottom line of it.
B, C, D, E, F teams - are non factors. They won't hold your districts, at best they can be used to show up for a stacked timer game and get lucky that the other side no shows - but why rely on those tactics? When you're B-team > 95% others A-team. Then you got the right idea.
agreed.
That is like saying a country will ONLY use elite spec op forces and not the marines/army/navy.
So with that logic you only need enough people to fill up a PC match (16 is it?) and it is better to NOT show up or fight with less people than sub in someone who is B-team but available? |
Dachande Anasazi
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
128
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Posted - 2014.01.25 00:35:00 -
[125] - Quote
Renegades Bane wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:It is time brothers and sisters!! This is bullshit!!!! Nyain San , AE. , and all that stand by them must fall!! PD!! How long will you sit by and attack those that mean you no harm?! Put aside your differences everyone! It must be done!! Cubs!! Zatara !! Ydubbs!! Quickgloves!! Mike Ruan!! Radar!! Where are the leaders and elites of DUST? Isn't it time for RA to fall like EoN? This must be done. No longer will they overshadow us! Unite as one! Let them here the outcries of the community!! Let them feel our rage. Let us devour this donut like no other was before! And from its crumbs let us keep watch so that another donut does not rise!!! They complain about not having a fight...let's give them one. Now more than ever MH needs to be cleansed. They will pay for their imperialist ways! Small corps!! This is now your time! Overshadowed alliances!! Now is the time to strike. Forget about the Isk but if it's your goal...they own more than 50% of MH and if you count their puppets they have even more in there sphere of influence!
Nyain San as it is now can not withstand a blitz by 20 corps!! Nearly all their timers are on the same time. Their arrogance will be their downfall!! They make billion per day! Do the math!
AE!!! How many pub star teams can you throw together I wonder?
DDB you could've been a leader after you left PD, but instead you side with them. Leave them now before your fate is sealed along with theirs! Join us!! The United Front Against Renegade Alliance !!
Join UFARA now!!
STB, MOLON, Phoenix Fed, OH, TOP, PX1 , KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND, Fatal Absolution , Valor Coalition , zero-day attack, HELLSTORM , men in black ops , the dystopian corporation, what the French, WARRAVENS , kill-em-quick, TEAMPLAYERS, RND, eternal beings, Grupo de asalto, rebelion TLC, 3dge of D4arkness, TSOLE, Red-scorpion - Latinos , ultramarine corp, the generals , subsonic, synthesis , forsaken immortals , Latinos killers corp, all others out there!! Break your ties with RA!! Set aside your dislike for one another and start fighting!!!
To Renegade I say this. Surrender now or prepare to see your empire fall. Abandon your districts until you hold only 15 or less or give then up peacefully. If not, you shall see. How is it in our interest to attack them. International relations 101. Realism: Nations do what is in their best interest. Is it in our interest to attack them? Unless they come for our districts and we need to defend our resources (isk) then sure. Otherwise they ain't attacking us, and currently we are happy with the districts we have and if we want more there are many other corps we can attack and get gains more easily. By WE I do not mean Titans of Phoenix. I mean any of the corps you are asking to attack RA - what is our INCENTIVE. that they have more money and are more powerful? In International relations 'balance of power theory' has been proven false. Because there aren't any countries forming alliances against USA. Rather 'Balance of Threat theory' is more accurate. Is RA a threat to the corps you mentioned? Are they perceived to be threats to the corps and by the corps you mentioned? I named corps currently in PC. And no not only them. They were examples of corps that may find this interesting and rewarding. There are others I could name. If TOP doesn't want any more land then just do it for he battles. The really challenging battles.
I do not represent TOP. I am not a leader. ALL I am saying is you would have better results if you give incentives. True incentives.
As for having better fights. Like eve, dust does mirror RL international relations. It is BORING. Unless players are goign to get a HIGH reward for the risk they take to unlock districts or starting a fight with a huge ass corp, they will not engage and keep the status quo. EVen if a corp is weak, but fine with the status quo then they will not attack.
Attacking a corp for FUN/good battles.
If one wishes to fight AE/RA for a good fight. It is better to have an agreement that one (or any number really) district will be unlocked and at the end no matter who owns it, it will be returned to original owner.
If you are complaining that we are lazy and Dust is no longer fun. That is CCP's fault for not fixing the exploit, OR making rewards so big that no one will wish to use the exploit. |
Long Evity
1287
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Posted - 2014.01.25 00:35:00 -
[126] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:NobIesse Oblige wrote:Long Evity wrote:NF policy has always been A Teamers only (In belief). B team and C team (In belief) just slow things down, and there's no reason for a player to be labelled into lower category teams. If you have a desire to win, make ISK, and be the best, then you'll find a way too - and then you'll be a perfect match to join NF - as I believe in effort > talent until you reach high tier games, where talent makes a little more of a push then effort. But effort will get you anywhere in this game.
People who claim lettered teams even exist are just show casing that there corp/alliance has people who care and people who don't care as much. Though there are relevant factors such as life - that's pretty much the bottom line of it.
B, C, D, E, F teams - are non factors. They won't hold your districts, at best they can be used to show up for a stacked timer game and get lucky that the other side no shows - but why rely on those tactics? When you're B-team > 95% others A-team. Then you got the right idea. agreed. That is like saying a country will ONLY use elite spec op forces and not the marines/army/navy. So with that logic you only need enough people to fill up a PC match (16 is it?) and it is better to NOT show up or fight with less people than sub in someone who is B-team but available?
No, go away with your real world examples, they don't work here. Each section of the American Army/Navy/Air Forces are A trained military organizations, calling the others "B, C" team, when they operate completely differently, is absurd. Spec Ops especially.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Dachande Anasazi
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
128
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Posted - 2014.01.25 00:37:00 -
[127] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:NobIesse Oblige wrote:Long Evity wrote:NF policy has always been A Teamers only (In belief). B team and C team (In belief) just slow things down, and there's no reason for a player to be labelled into lower category teams. If you have a desire to win, make ISK, and be the best, then you'll find a way too - and then you'll be a perfect match to join NF - as I believe in effort > talent until you reach high tier games, where talent makes a little more of a push then effort. But effort will get you anywhere in this game.
People who claim lettered teams even exist are just show casing that there corp/alliance has people who care and people who don't care as much. Though there are relevant factors such as life - that's pretty much the bottom line of it.
B, C, D, E, F teams - are non factors. They won't hold your districts, at best they can be used to show up for a stacked timer game and get lucky that the other side no shows - but why rely on those tactics? When you're B-team > 95% others A-team. Then you got the right idea. agreed. That is like saying a country will ONLY use elite spec op forces and not the marines/army/navy. So with that logic you only need enough people to fill up a PC match (16 is it?) and it is better to NOT show up or fight with less people than sub in someone who is B-team but available? No, go away with your real world examples, they don't work here. Each section of the American Army/Navy/Air Forces are A trained military organizations, calling the others "B, C" team, when they operate completely differently, is absurd. Spec Ops especially.
okay u got me there.
But what about my DUST example?
EDIT: Unless you mean the substitutes are also A-team. Then I get it.
But then you are misusing the terms. |
Long Evity
1287
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Posted - 2014.01.25 00:38:00 -
[128] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:Long Evity wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:NobIesse Oblige wrote:Long Evity wrote:NF policy has always been A Teamers only (In belief). B team and C team (In belief) just slow things down, and there's no reason for a player to be labelled into lower category teams. If you have a desire to win, make ISK, and be the best, then you'll find a way too - and then you'll be a perfect match to join NF - as I believe in effort > talent until you reach high tier games, where talent makes a little more of a push then effort. But effort will get you anywhere in this game.
People who claim lettered teams even exist are just show casing that there corp/alliance has people who care and people who don't care as much. Though there are relevant factors such as life - that's pretty much the bottom line of it.
B, C, D, E, F teams - are non factors. They won't hold your districts, at best they can be used to show up for a stacked timer game and get lucky that the other side no shows - but why rely on those tactics? When you're B-team > 95% others A-team. Then you got the right idea. agreed. That is like saying a country will ONLY use elite spec op forces and not the marines/army/navy. So with that logic you only need enough people to fill up a PC match (16 is it?) and it is better to NOT show up or fight with less people than sub in someone who is B-team but available? No, go away with your real world examples, they don't work here. Each section of the American Army/Navy/Air Forces are A trained military organizations, calling the others "B, C" team, when they operate completely differently, is absurd. Spec Ops especially. okay u got me there. But what about my DUST example?
If you want to send in someone who will go 0/15 with 200 WP - then by all means, I'm sure he was much more helpful then an empty spot. Lol
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Renegades Bane
UFARA
15
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Posted - 2014.01.25 00:41:00 -
[129] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:It is time brothers and sisters!! This is bullshit!!!! Nyain San , AE. , and all that stand by them must fall!! PD!! How long will you sit by and attack those that mean you no harm?! Put aside your differences everyone! It must be done!! Cubs!! Zatara !! Ydubbs!! Quickgloves!! Mike Ruan!! Radar!! Where are the leaders and elites of DUST? Isn't it time for RA to fall like EoN? This must be done. No longer will they overshadow us! Unite as one! Let them here the outcries of the community!! Let them feel our rage. Let us devour this donut like no other was before! And from its crumbs let us keep watch so that another donut does not rise!!! They complain about not having a fight...let's give them one. Now more than ever MH needs to be cleansed. They will pay for their imperialist ways! Small corps!! This is now your time! Overshadowed alliances!! Now is the time to strike. Forget about the Isk but if it's your goal...they own more than 50% of MH and if you count their puppets they have even more in there sphere of influence!
Nyain San as it is now can not withstand a blitz by 20 corps!! Nearly all their timers are on the same time. Their arrogance will be their downfall!! They make billion per day! Do the math!
AE!!! How many pub star teams can you throw together I wonder?
DDB you could've been a leader after you left PD, but instead you side with them. Leave them now before your fate is sealed along with theirs! Join us!! The United Front Against Renegade Alliance !!
Join UFARA now!!
STB, MOLON, Phoenix Fed, OH, TOP, PX1 , KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND, Fatal Absolution , Valor Coalition , zero-day attack, HELLSTORM , men in black ops , the dystopian corporation, what the French, WARRAVENS , kill-em-quick, TEAMPLAYERS, RND, eternal beings, Grupo de asalto, rebelion TLC, 3dge of D4arkness, TSOLE, Red-scorpion - Latinos , ultramarine corp, the generals , subsonic, synthesis , forsaken immortals , Latinos killers corp, all others out there!! Break your ties with RA!! Set aside your dislike for one another and start fighting!!!
To Renegade I say this. Surrender now or prepare to see your empire fall. Abandon your districts until you hold only 15 or less or give then up peacefully. If not, you shall see. How is it in our interest to attack them. International relations 101. Realism: Nations do what is in their best interest. Is it in our interest to attack them? Unless they come for our districts and we need to defend our resources (isk) then sure. Otherwise they ain't attacking us, and currently we are happy with the districts we have and if we want more there are many other corps we can attack and get gains more easily. By WE I do not mean Titans of Phoenix. I mean any of the corps you are asking to attack RA - what is our INCENTIVE. that they have more money and are more powerful? In International relations 'balance of power theory' has been proven false. Because there aren't any countries forming alliances against USA. Rather 'Balance of Threat theory' is more accurate. Is RA a threat to the corps you mentioned? Are they perceived to be threats to the corps and by the corps you mentioned? I named corps currently in PC. And no not only them. They were examples of corps that may find this interesting and rewarding. There are others I could name. If TOP doesn't want any more land then just do it for he battles. The really challenging battles. I do not represent TOP. I am not a leader. ALL I am saying is you would have better results if you give incentives. True incentives. As for having better fights. Like eve, dust does mirror RL international relations. It is BORING. Unless players are goign to get a HIGH reward for the risk they take to unlock districts or starting a fight with a huge ass corp, they will not engage and keep the status quo. EVen if a corp is weak, but fine with the status quo then they will not attack. Attacking a corp for FUN/good battles. If one wishes to fight AE/RA for a good fight. It is better to have an agreement that one (or any number really) district will be unlocked and at the end no matter who owns it, it will be returned to original owner. If you are complaining that we are lazy and Dust is no longer fun. That is CCP's fault for not fixing the exploit, OR making rewards so big that no one will wish to use the exploit.
Don't blame CCP for something we all can "Fix". The game is what we make/allow/let it be. If you want to stay out of the ought and play this game first as something you can simulate leading the fate of an organization instead of a fps, that's your decision. I know you're not a leader of TOP but I'm just saying. I usually hate FPS. I like the so called political part of this even though it's....nvm.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Dachande Anasazi
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
128
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Posted - 2014.01.25 00:49:00 -
[130] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:
If you want to send in someone who will go 0/15 with 200 WP - then by all means, I'm sure he was much more helpful then an empty spot. Lol
Yea I guess you didnt read my EDIT.
If by A-Team you mean the substitute will also be A-team, then I agree w/you.
But if you mean ONLY these 16 players will ever be able to play and even if we have a substitute who is close to or equal in skill we will rather have an empty spot. Then that is kinda ridiculous.
However I think you mean the substitute would be A-team skills too.
In that case I 100% agree with you. |
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843-BANE
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
554
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Posted - 2014.01.25 00:54:00 -
[131] - Quote
I don't like that you have 'Bane' in your name. That's not cool, man.
BRING BACK CORP BATTLES
SIGN THE PEITION HERE
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Tempo
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
2388
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Posted - 2014.01.25 00:55:00 -
[132] - Quote
Renegades Bane wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Please not now seriously, bad timing for many. This isn't going to happen over night killer. Takes more than a forum post. We need to organize.
Either you called me killer because I'm a merc or you think I'm one of killers alts? This is my main, I am not killer, he's in my local as well lol.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam
I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
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Long Evity
1287
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Posted - 2014.01.25 00:57:00 -
[133] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:Long Evity wrote:
If you want to send in someone who will go 0/15 with 200 WP - then by all means, I'm sure he was much more helpful then an empty spot. Lol
Yea I guess you didnt read my EDIT. If by A-Team you mean the substitute will also be A-team, then I agree w/you. But if you mean ONLY these 16 players will ever be able to play and even if we have a substitute who is close to or equal in skill we will rather have an empty spot. Then that is kinda ridiculous. However I think you mean the substitute would be A-team skills too. In that case I 100% agree with you.
If he's close or equal your skill... why isn't he A team? I think your stuck on a conception that B is just barely weaker then A - that's never the case. B is B because they can't keep up with A - and "A" team is never just 16 people. The list to "A" can be as big as the amount of people you have that fit the bill. If he's close to your skill level - then he's fine to take.
But if he's going to go -5kdr with 300 WP - then why did you bring this "B" team guy?
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
191
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Posted - 2014.01.25 01:08:00 -
[134] - Quote
I'll help as well Renegade. I have a full squad right now. Just pull us in and we will battle. It is Soul, usuckatdust, Kujo, Arirana, howdidthattaste and myself. Those names might be off a little, but you will know them. We take a district for 5 mil ISK each. Send me ingame for time. You must provide others. If I provide them, price goes up. We get half upfront.
Thanks in advance,
bigolenuts, pronounced, bee joe lay noots |
Renegades Bane
UFARA
16
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Posted - 2014.01.25 01:09:00 -
[135] - Quote
843-BANE wrote:I don't like that you have 'Bane' in your name. That's not cool, man.
Sorry Bane. Respect to you though.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Renegades Bane
UFARA
16
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Posted - 2014.01.25 01:15:00 -
[136] - Quote
bigolenuts wrote:I'll help as well Renegade. I have a full squad right now. Just pull us in and we will battle. It is Soul, usuckatdust, Kujo, Arirana, howdidthattaste and myself. Those names might be off a little, but you will know them. We take a district for 5 mil ISK each. Send me ingame for time. You must provide others. If I provide them, price goes up. We get half upfront.
Thanks in advance,
bigolenuts, pronounced, bee joe lay noots
I'm so glad you guys are laughing it up.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Long Evity
1289
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Posted - 2014.01.25 01:15:00 -
[137] - Quote
bigolenuts wrote:I'll help as well Renegade. I have a full squad right now. Just pull us in and we will battle. It is Soul, usuckatdust, Kujo, Arirana, howdidthattaste and myself. Those names might be off a little, but you will know them. We take a district for 5 mil ISK each. Send me ingame for time. You must provide others. If I provide them, price goes up. We get half upfront.
Thanks in advance,
bigolenuts, pronounced, bee joe lay noots
Or, you could hire NF and have a better win/lose rate.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Dachande Anasazi
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
130
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Posted - 2014.01.25 01:49:00 -
[138] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:Long Evity wrote:
If you want to send in someone who will go 0/15 with 200 WP - then by all means, I'm sure he was much more helpful then an empty spot. Lol
Yea I guess you didnt read my EDIT. If by A-Team you mean the substitute will also be A-team, then I agree w/you. But if you mean ONLY these 16 players will ever be able to play and even if we have a substitute who is close to or equal in skill we will rather have an empty spot. Then that is kinda ridiculous. However I think you mean the substitute would be A-team skills too. In that case I 100% agree with you. If he's close or equal your skill... why isn't he A team? I think your stuck on a conception that B is just barely weaker then A - that's never the case. B is B because they can't keep up with A - and "A" team is never just 16 people. The list to "A" can be as big as the amount of people you have that fit the bill. If he's close to your skill level - then he's fine to take. But if he's going to go -5kdr with 300 WP - then why did you bring this "B" team guy?
I completely agree. I understand you now.
Basically the substitute would be A-team level. If he is B-team skill level then he shouldn't even be in the corp. That is my opinion too.
Basically the guys on Standby are only on Standby because they did not que up fast enough. But they have the same skills as the people who did que up fast enough. I get ya. |
Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
353
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Posted - 2014.01.25 02:45:00 -
[139] - Quote
Do you have any idea how much money the original FEC spent on their push?
During which, we gained districts.
After which, we sold districts.
The only groups that benefited from that push was AE and PX1.
Everyone else just traded one master for a less benevolent one.
Don't got anything against AE personally, they deserve what they got.
NS is a tad fat, but good for them.
DDB, little bit of hand holding going on there, but they at least care about the community.
The community made this mess without us, they can clean it up.
TL;DR **** you, pay us. |
Renegades Bane
UFARA
16
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Posted - 2014.01.25 03:20:00 -
[140] - Quote
Fiddlestaxp wrote:Do you have any idea how much money the original FEC spent on their push?
During which, we gained districts.
After which, we sold districts.
The only groups that benefited from that push was AE and PX1.
Everyone else just traded one master for a less benevolent one.
Don't got anything against AE personally, they deserve what they got.
NS is a tad fat, but good for them.
DDB, little bit of hand holding going on there, but they at least care about the community.
The community made this mess without us, they can clean it up.
TL;DR **** you, pay us.
Huh? Are you upset with something? Maybe it's that giant donut in the room. We got to talk about it eventually.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Long Evity
1299
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Posted - 2014.01.25 03:21:00 -
[141] - Quote
Fiddlestaxp wrote:
TL;DR **** you, pay us.
^ NF Motto ^
Lol
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
700
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Posted - 2014.01.25 03:23:00 -
[142] - Quote
I leave this page with this. Now where's my popcorn?!
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
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Renegades Bane
UFARA
16
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Posted - 2014.01.25 03:25:00 -
[143] - Quote
Be on standby. I'm sure you dogs of war will get more work coming your way soon.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Dj grammer
Red Star.
EoN.
118
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Posted - 2014.01.25 03:44:00 -
[144] - Quote
Renegades Bane wrote:It is time brothers and sisters!! This is bullshit!!!! Nyain San , AE. , and all that stand by them must fall!! PD!! How long will you sit by and attack those that mean you no harm?! Put aside your differences everyone! It must be done!! Cubs!! Zatara !! Ydubbs!! Quickgloves!! Mike Ruan!! Radar!! Where are the leaders and elites of DUST? Isn't it time for RA to fall like EoN? This must be done. No longer will they overshadow us! Unite as one! Let them here the outcries of the community!! Let them feel our rage. Let us devour this donut like no other was before! And from its crumbs let us keep watch so that another donut does not rise!!! They complain about not having a fight...let's give them one. Now more than ever MH needs to be cleansed. They will pay for their imperialist ways! Small corps!! This is now your time! Overshadowed alliances!! Now is the time to strike. Forget about the Isk but if it's your goal...they own more than 50% of MH and if you count their puppets they have even more in there sphere of influence!
Nyain San as it is now can not withstand a blitz by 20 corps!! Nearly all their timers are on the same time. Their arrogance will be their downfall!! They make billion per day! Do the math!
AE!!! How many pub star teams can you throw together I wonder?
DDB you could've been a leader after you left PD, but instead you side with them. Leave them now before your fate is sealed along with theirs! Join us!! The United Front Against Renegade Alliance !!
Join UFARA now!!
STB, MOLON, Phoenix Fed, OH, TOP, PX1 , KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND, Fatal Absolution , Valor Coalition , zero-day attack, HELLSTORM , men in black ops , the dystopian corporation, what the French, WARRAVENS , kill-em-quick, TEAMPLAYERS, RND, eternal beings, Grupo de asalto, rebelion TLC, 3dge of D4arkness, TSOLE, Red-scorpion - Latinos , ultramarine corp, the generals , subsonic, synthesis , forsaken immortals , Latinos killers corp, all others out there!! Break your ties with RA!! Set aside your dislike for one another and start fighting!!!
To Renegade I say this. Surrender now or prepare to see your empire fall. Abandon your districts until you hold only 15 or less or give then up peacefully. If not, you shall see.
Just going to say this and it is about time.
Fellow DUST community..........
I FREAKING CALLED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I knew this same exact BS was going to happen after the 2nd Eon war against the 1st FEC. People say we lost, people said we just quit after PS4 came. Whatever the case may be, I called this. When a power lose to another power, that winning power becomes stronger. But what happens when they become too strong? The community tries to rally to fight for freedom. One they win they try to do things differently but they end up doing the same thing they were fighting against.
So why should this turn out differently?
Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet.
Tends to flip the table when seeing the words:
YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED
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Renegades Bane
UFARA
16
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Posted - 2014.01.25 04:09:00 -
[145] - Quote
Dj grammer wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:It is time brothers and sisters!! This is bullshit!!!! Nyain San , AE. , and all that stand by them must fall!! PD!! How long will you sit by and attack those that mean you no harm?! Put aside your differences everyone! It must be done!! Cubs!! Zatara !! Ydubbs!! Quickgloves!! Mike Ruan!! Radar!! Where are the leaders and elites of DUST? Isn't it time for RA to fall like EoN? This must be done. No longer will they overshadow us! Unite as one! Let them here the outcries of the community!! Let them feel our rage. Let us devour this donut like no other was before! And from its crumbs let us keep watch so that another donut does not rise!!! They complain about not having a fight...let's give them one. Now more than ever MH needs to be cleansed. They will pay for their imperialist ways! Small corps!! This is now your time! Overshadowed alliances!! Now is the time to strike. Forget about the Isk but if it's your goal...they own more than 50% of MH and if you count their puppets they have even more in there sphere of influence!
Nyain San as it is now can not withstand a blitz by 20 corps!! Nearly all their timers are on the same time. Their arrogance will be their downfall!! They make billion per day! Do the math!
AE!!! How many pub star teams can you throw together I wonder?
DDB you could've been a leader after you left PD, but instead you side with them. Leave them now before your fate is sealed along with theirs! Join us!! The United Front Against Renegade Alliance !!
Join UFARA now!!
STB, MOLON, Phoenix Fed, OH, TOP, PX1 , KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND, Fatal Absolution , Valor Coalition , zero-day attack, HELLSTORM , men in black ops , the dystopian corporation, what the French, WARRAVENS , kill-em-quick, TEAMPLAYERS, RND, eternal beings, Grupo de asalto, rebelion TLC, 3dge of D4arkness, TSOLE, Red-scorpion - Latinos , ultramarine corp, the generals , subsonic, synthesis , forsaken immortals , Latinos killers corp, all others out there!! Break your ties with RA!! Set aside your dislike for one another and start fighting!!!
To Renegade I say this. Surrender now or prepare to see your empire fall. Abandon your districts until you hold only 15 or less or give then up peacefully. If not, you shall see. Just going to say this and it is about time. Fellow DUST community.......... I FREAKING CALLED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I knew this same exact BS was going to happen after the 2nd Eon war against the 1st FEC. People say we lost, people said we just quit after PS4 came. Whatever the case may be, I called this. When a power lose to another power, that winning power becomes stronger. But what happens when they become too strong? The community tries to rally to fight for freedom. One they win they try to do things differently but they end up doing the same thing they were fighting against. So why should this turn out differently?
Because I'm sure we're tired of eating donuts. Can we eat something else plz? It's always the same flavor and always in my face. Blue frosting and red sprinkles . But even the red sprinkles are starting to turn blue now.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
1943
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Posted - 2014.01.25 04:26:00 -
[146] - Quote
uhmmmmmm....
I don't even know where to start with this thread.
First question might be why did you feel a need to garner all this attention and where did you come up with all this crap?
So about those vehicle locks...
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Renegades Bane
UFARA
17
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Posted - 2014.01.25 04:50:00 -
[147] - Quote
KenKaniff69 wrote:uhmmmmmm....
I don't even know where to start with this thread.
First question might be why did you feel a need to garner all this attention and where did you come up with all this crap?
Why?....you're joking right?
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
1944
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Posted - 2014.01.25 05:12:00 -
[148] - Quote
Renegades Bane wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:uhmmmmmm....
I don't even know where to start with this thread.
First question might be why did you feel a need to garner all this attention and where did you come up with all this crap?
Why?....you're joking right?
sure? IDK what you are talking about dude. The real motive behind all of PC is to ensure a continuous supply of anime. Everything you said would end that as you are destroying the anime source and those who follow it the closest.
So about those vehicle locks...
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Renegades Bane
UFARA
17
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Posted - 2014.01.25 05:14:00 -
[149] - Quote
KenKaniff69 wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:uhmmmmmm....
I don't even know where to start with this thread.
First question might be why did you feel a need to garner all this attention and where did you come up with all this crap?
Why?....you're joking right? sure? IDK what you are talking about dude. The real motive behind all of PC is to ensure a continuous supply of anime. Everything you said would end that as you are destroying the anime source and those who follow it the closest.
Kick logic to the curb and do the impossible right?
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Long Evity
1299
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Posted - 2014.01.25 05:16:00 -
[150] - Quote
Renegades Bane wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:uhmmmmmm....
I don't even know where to start with this thread.
First question might be why did you feel a need to garner all this attention and where did you come up with all this crap?
Why?....you're joking right? sure? IDK what you are talking about dude. The real motive behind all of PC is to ensure a continuous supply of anime. Everything you said would end that as you are destroying the anime source and those who follow it the closest. Kick logic to the curb and do the impossible right?
He makes a strong point. Anime > All.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
1945
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Posted - 2014.01.25 05:21:00 -
[151] - Quote
Renegades Bane wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:uhmmmmmm....
I don't even know where to start with this thread.
First question might be why did you feel a need to garner all this attention and where did you come up with all this crap?
Why?....you're joking right? sure? IDK what you are talking about dude. The real motive behind all of PC is to ensure a continuous supply of anime. Everything you said would end that as you are destroying the anime source and those who follow it the closest. Kick logic to the curb and do the impossible right?
Who are you btw?
So about those vehicle locks...
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
337
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Posted - 2014.01.25 05:24:00 -
[152] - Quote
KenKaniff69 wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:uhmmmmmm....
I don't even know where to start with this thread.
First question might be why did you feel a need to garner all this attention and where did you come up with all this crap?
Why?....you're joking right? sure? IDK what you are talking about dude. The real motive behind all of PC is to ensure a continuous supply of anime. Everything you said would end that as you are destroying the anime source and those who follow it the closest. Kick logic to the curb and do the impossible right? Who are you btw?
He won't ssy i still think he choose a horrible name his name sounds like he should be in our alliance not against it, but that can just be how i feel. |
KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
1945
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Posted - 2014.01.25 05:30:00 -
[153] - Quote
Mr Machine Guns wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:
Kick logic to the curb and do the impossible right?
Who are you btw? That's actually Nyain San's attempt to start the war.
Oh thanks for informing us all Mr Machine Guns! 
So about those vehicle locks...
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Renegades Bane
UFARA
17
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Posted - 2014.01.25 05:31:00 -
[154] - Quote
KenKaniff69 wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:uhmmmmmm....
I don't even know where to start with this thread.
First question might be why did you feel a need to garner all this attention and where did you come up with all this crap?
Why?....you're joking right? sure? IDK what you are talking about dude. The real motive behind all of PC is to ensure a continuous supply of anime. Everything you said would end that as you are destroying the anime source and those who follow it the closest. Kick logic to the curb and do the impossible right? Who are you btw?
Voice of the opressed
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
337
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Posted - 2014.01.25 05:34:00 -
[155] - Quote
KenKaniff69 wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:
Kick logic to the curb and do the impossible right?
Who are you btw? That's actually Nyain San's attempt to start the war. Oh thanks for informing us all Mr Machine Guns!
no really an attempt to stat a war, but whatever you think ken |
Renegades Bane
UFARA
19
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Posted - 2014.01.25 05:57:00 -
[156] - Quote
I wonder I wonder. When will the district locking begin
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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DaNizzle4shizle
Zero-Day Attack
Zero-Day
348
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Posted - 2014.01.25 05:58:00 -
[157] - Quote
Did the war start yet?
Acting CEO of Zero-Day Attack. Forum warrior 0.3
Proud owner of PFC district. Contact me and we can set up a battle time
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Dachande Anasazi
Titans of Phoenix
Legacy Rising
138
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Posted - 2014.01.25 06:10:00 -
[158] - Quote
Dj grammer wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:It is time brothers and sisters!! This is bullshit!!!! Nyain San , AE. , and all that stand by them must fall!! PD!! How long will you sit by and attack those that mean you no harm?! Put aside your differences everyone! It must be done!! Cubs!! Zatara !! Ydubbs!! Quickgloves!! Mike Ruan!! Radar!! Where are the leaders and elites of DUST? Isn't it time for RA to fall like EoN? This must be done. No longer will they overshadow us! Unite as one! Let them here the outcries of the community!! Let them feel our rage. Let us devour this donut like no other was before! And from its crumbs let us keep watch so that another donut does not rise!!! They complain about not having a fight...let's give them one. Now more than ever MH needs to be cleansed. They will pay for their imperialist ways! Small corps!! This is now your time! Overshadowed alliances!! Now is the time to strike. Forget about the Isk but if it's your goal...they own more than 50% of MH and if you count their puppets they have even more in there sphere of influence!
Nyain San as it is now can not withstand a blitz by 20 corps!! Nearly all their timers are on the same time. Their arrogance will be their downfall!! They make billion per day! Do the math!
AE!!! How many pub star teams can you throw together I wonder?
DDB you could've been a leader after you left PD, but instead you side with them. Leave them now before your fate is sealed along with theirs! Join us!! The United Front Against Renegade Alliance !!
Join UFARA now!!
STB, MOLON, Phoenix Fed, OH, TOP, PX1 , KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND, Fatal Absolution , Valor Coalition , zero-day attack, HELLSTORM , men in black ops , the dystopian corporation, what the French, WARRAVENS , kill-em-quick, TEAMPLAYERS, RND, eternal beings, Grupo de asalto, rebelion TLC, 3dge of D4arkness, TSOLE, Red-scorpion - Latinos , ultramarine corp, the generals , subsonic, synthesis , forsaken immortals , Latinos killers corp, all others out there!! Break your ties with RA!! Set aside your dislike for one another and start fighting!!!
To Renegade I say this. Surrender now or prepare to see your empire fall. Abandon your districts until you hold only 15 or less or give then up peacefully. If not, you shall see. Just going to say this and it is about time. Fellow DUST community.......... I FREAKING CALLED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I knew this same exact BS was going to happen after the 2nd Eon war against the 1st FEC. People say we lost, people said we just quit after PS4 came. Whatever the case may be, I called this. When a power lose to another power, that winning power becomes stronger. But what happens when they become too strong? The community tries to rally to fight for freedom. One they win they try to do things differently but they end up doing the same thing they were fighting against. So why should this turn out differently?
It's balance of threat theory vs Balance of Power.
You believe people balance against power. In reality they balance against threat. In theory we can have a hegemony and the community wont do anything as long as the hegemon is not a threat.
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Renegades Bane
UFARA
19
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Posted - 2014.01.25 06:16:00 -
[159] - Quote
DaNizzle4shizle wrote:Did the war start yet?
No. Not yet. But at the same time yes. There are a few that fight against RA but their fight is individual. No coordination. That must be achieved before Molden Heath Regional War III begins.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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daadfhjhgfg
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.01.25 09:20:00 -
[160] - Quote
I don't get it. you want to see the end of blue donuts, but with this new FEC, you'd be making an even bigger blue donut than EON's, what, 7-8 corps had + ringers? lol @OP. RA is just 3 corps and plenty of corps have alliances much bigger. besides, what'd they do to you? |
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daadfhjhgfg
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.01.25 09:26:00 -
[161] - Quote
Renegades Bane wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:Profit!! There is no profit in this. Take the land. It is yours for the taking but be fair. They haven't. Put aside the Isk this one time and without even knowing it you'll gain ore Isk that you could possibly spend and all of you already have more than you can spend.
His isn't just my voice. It isn't my will alone. Why can't you use your main???? I have an idea who you are Why? You know why. And you don't know me. Compared to you giants I'm no one. I've fought with you, against you...but I doubt you remember my true name. @ cubs - What about your pride? TP gave this all to AE. They didn't earn it. As soon as you pure innocence , synergy , and RND left there was no one else to stop them. You talked about making the community better. You gave up and this happened . Don't do it for the Isk. Do it for the challenge
Correction. TP is what was wrong with the community, that's why AE stepped up against them. Cubs got tired, as we all do. It's easier to be a paid merc playing on contract. |
m twiggz
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
279
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Posted - 2014.01.25 11:41:00 -
[162] - Quote
I think this is all a good idea in theory, but it's really just a theory. Getting 20+ corps all on the same page is nearly impossible. Not to mention the huge ISK factor involved. RA has the funds to pay the the other big dogs to fight for them, or to not fight at all. I'm not saying this is fully impossible but it would be a hard task to setup, perhaps even harder to carry out.
Like many of the vet players posted in this thread the game has turned into a giant ISK party. They don't care about districts, they just want the ISK. I don't blame any of them. Most of them were already in corps that had their glory in PC and would rather ring for ISK now than have to strategically setup battles and wars.
If this actually goes down I wish both sides good luck. It'll be fun to watch it all unfold. |
DJINN Kujo
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
856
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Posted - 2014.01.25 11:57:00 -
[163] - Quote
All corporations mentioned: I think it's funny to see, especially since more than 1/2 of them have no affiliation with Renegade.
Ancient Exiles, CEO
Your failure to plan ahead does not constitute an emergency on my end.
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daadfhjhgfg
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.01.25 14:16:00 -
[164] - Quote
Renegades Bane, I think you're better off just waiting till PC 2.0 where the battles will most likely be on a larger scale and more than MH will be open for the taking. What you're proposing so far will lead to what it always has, an endless cycle of rise and fall, some due to warring, some due to boredom and moving on to bigger, better games. Dust just isn't as fun right now to play hardcore. It's more casual now. Some people are set for life isk-wise, while others still play as hired mercs because of the expansion of the game. Also, once the player market place comes out, they'll have the isk to buy and trade officer weapons, which have all but been taken out, or at least, the salvage % have been lowered on them. That's all likely coming soon, as in, the coming patches later this year. |
CUBS UNbanned Alt
106
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Posted - 2014.01.25 14:29:00 -
[165] - Quote
Dachande Anasazi wrote:Long Evity wrote:Dachande Anasazi wrote:NobIesse Oblige wrote:Long Evity wrote:NF policy has always been A Teamers only (In belief). B team and C team (In belief) just slow things down, and there's no reason for a player to be labelled into lower category teams. If you have a desire to win, make ISK, and be the best, then you'll find a way too - and then you'll be a perfect match to join NF - as I believe in effort > talent until you reach high tier games, where talent makes a little more of a push then effort. But effort will get you anywhere in this game.
People who claim lettered teams even exist are just show casing that there corp/alliance has people who care and people who don't care as much. Though there are relevant factors such as life - that's pretty much the bottom line of it.
B, C, D, E, F teams - are non factors. They won't hold your districts, at best they can be used to show up for a stacked timer game and get lucky that the other side no shows - but why rely on those tactics? When you're B-team > 95% others A-team. Then you got the right idea. agreed. That is like saying a country will ONLY use elite spec op forces and not the marines/army/navy. So with that logic you only need enough people to fill up a PC match (16 is it?) and it is better to NOT show up or fight with less people than sub in someone who is B-team but available? No, go away with your real world examples, they don't work here. Each section of the American Army/Navy/Air Forces are A trained military organizations, calling the others "B, C" team, when they operate completely differently, is absurd. Spec Ops especially. okay u got me there. But what about my DUST example? EDIT: Unless you mean the substitutes are also A-team. Then I get it. But then you are misusing the terms.
i dont believe in the 'A team' 'B team' stuff. the people that play in matches i run are people i know, am confident in their roles being performed, and most of all works well with all other teammates. everyone that plays in matches i run follows orders and has the confidence in me to issue the right orders at the right time, maximizing chances for victory. afterward feedback is allowed and all my guys will tell me if theres something they noticed that we could improve upon, or remind me wasting an orbital on rampage campin on a hill just for shiggles might not be best used.
things like that. personnel is important, but 'a team' 'elite' etc are only monikers you all assign to other players. TEAM concept.
and fyi to OP....Team Players is not in Molden Heath...hasnt been in months and does not have the active personnel to even entertaing the idea of leaving our sandy beach resort with all-inclusive booze and thai hook....umm massage therapists
Don't drink the koolaid... Rampage made it from scratch and didn't wash his hands
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kiarbanor
S.e.V.e.N.
General Tso's Alliance
289
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Posted - 2014.01.25 14:40:00 -
[166] - Quote
"Is that real ketchup there, Eddie?
Nothin' but the best, Clark."
Your sig made me think of that. |
Renegades Bane
UFARA
22
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Posted - 2014.01.25 15:08:00 -
[167] - Quote
Lol this is defiantly not something I'm coming up with. I've talked to several people on my main and everybody and their mothers is thinking of a way to take down RA. Again, it's a call to arms. If theres a will...there's a way. Not my idea this new FEC. And you know who you are out there. The only way for your plans to work is to find the other corps interested in this for whatever reason they have and coordinate and offensive.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
175
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Posted - 2014.01.25 16:17:00 -
[168] - Quote
DJINN Kujo wrote:All corporations mentioned: I think it's funny to see, especially since more than 1/2 of them have no affiliation with Renegade.
For the record Kujo, and this is just a thought based on observations:
If AE and DDB policed their own alliance and did something about the filthy cockroach infestation that is Nyain San with their underhanded tactics and district locking this thread in all probability wouldnt even exist.
Wanna avoid being like the next EoN? Wanna make a really good, smart PR move and shed the negative spotlight? Join the OP and help fight Nyain San. |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
339
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Posted - 2014.01.25 16:20:00 -
[169] - Quote
excillon wrote:DJINN Kujo wrote:All corporations mentioned: I think it's funny to see, especially since more than 1/2 of them have no affiliation with Renegade. For the record Kujo, and this is just a thought based on observations: If AE and DDB policed their own alliance and did something about the filthy cockroach infestation that is Nyain San with their underhanded tactics and district locking this thread in all probability wouldnt even exist. Wanna avoid being like the next EoN? Wanna make a really good, smart PR move and shed the negative spotlight? Join the OP and help fight Nyain San.
Lol Nyain San lock district right now we have 0 locked so i don't know what you are talking about
heres the proof no district are locked
http://www.dustcharts.com |
excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
175
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Posted - 2014.01.25 16:29:00 -
[170] - Quote
Mr Machine Guns wrote:excillon wrote:DJINN Kujo wrote:All corporations mentioned: I think it's funny to see, especially since more than 1/2 of them have no affiliation with Renegade. For the record Kujo, and this is just a thought based on observations: If AE and DDB policed their own alliance and did something about the filthy cockroach infestation that is Nyain San with their underhanded tactics and district locking this thread in all probability wouldnt even exist. Wanna avoid being like the next EoN? Wanna make a really good, smart PR move and shed the negative spotlight? Join the OP and help fight Nyain San. Lol Nyain San lock district right now we have 0 locked so i don't know what you are talking about heres the proof no district are locked http://www.dustcharts.com
Wasnt that way last night. You cant just unlock at your convienience snd say you dont lock them. You should have said 0 locked right now. Now you just look like a liar...lol. |
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
339
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Posted - 2014.01.25 16:32:00 -
[171] - Quote
excillon wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:excillon wrote:DJINN Kujo wrote:All corporations mentioned: I think it's funny to see, especially since more than 1/2 of them have no affiliation with Renegade. For the record Kujo, and this is just a thought based on observations: If AE and DDB policed their own alliance and did something about the filthy cockroach infestation that is Nyain San with their underhanded tactics and district locking this thread in all probability wouldnt even exist. Wanna avoid being like the next EoN? Wanna make a really good, smart PR move and shed the negative spotlight? Join the OP and help fight Nyain San. Lol Nyain San lock district right now we have 0 locked so i don't know what you are talking about heres the proof no district are locked http://www.dustcharts.com Wasnt that way last night. You cant just unlock at your convienience snd say you dont lock them. You should have said 0 locked right now. Now you just look like a liar...lol.
what are you talking about last night? Are you saying we put fake attacks on our districts? If so you are wrong once again, we were attacked by FA, RND, Valor, Grupo de Asalto
edit: saying we are cockroach thats not messed up or anything |
excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
175
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Posted - 2014.01.25 16:39:00 -
[172] - Quote
Mr Machine Guns wrote:excillon wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:excillon wrote:DJINN Kujo wrote:All corporations mentioned: I think it's funny to see, especially since more than 1/2 of them have no affiliation with Renegade. For the record Kujo, and this is just a thought based on observations: If AE and DDB policed their own alliance and did something about the filthy cockroach infestation that is Nyain San with their underhanded tactics and district locking this thread in all probability wouldnt even exist. Wanna avoid being like the next EoN? Wanna make a really good, smart PR move and shed the negative spotlight? Join the OP and help fight Nyain San. Lol Nyain San lock district right now we have 0 locked so i don't know what you are talking about heres the proof no district are locked http://www.dustcharts.com Wasnt that way last night. You cant just unlock at your convienience snd say you dont lock them. You should have said 0 locked right now. Now you just look like a liar...lol. what are you talking about last night? Are you saying we put fake attacks on our districts? If so you are wrong once again, we were attacked by FA, RND, Valor, Grupo de Asalto edit: saying we are cockroach thats not messed up or anything
Myself and a group of others were looking at the starmap and actually discussing this very issue. As for the cockroach thing what can I say? Look up the definition...if the shoe fits. Go back to playing DDR, copping cheap feels on hello kitty or whatever it is you guys do |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
339
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Posted - 2014.01.25 16:42:00 -
[173] - Quote
you are way off base now saying all this stuff, but you have no evidence that we have underhanded tactics or anything else you accuse of us doing
edit: I'm still curious to why you think we are cockroaches |
excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
175
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Posted - 2014.01.25 16:46:00 -
[174] - Quote
Mr Machine Guns wrote:you are way off base now saying all this stuff, but you have no evidence that we have underhanded tactics or anything else you accuse of us doing
God you are a lousy PR. And apparently havent read any if the 5000 threads in this forum. And I played against you guys...ive seen it. So have many others. |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
339
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Posted - 2014.01.25 16:48:00 -
[175] - Quote
excillon wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:you are way off base now saying all this stuff, but you have no evidence that we have underhanded tactics or anything else you accuse of us doing God you are a lousy PR. And apparently havent read any if the 5000 threads in this forum. And I played against you guys...ive seen it. So have many others.
And you are a guy that has no idea what you are talking about I've seen it? what does that even mean seen what? our japanese players beating you in a pub, or these so called underhanded tactics that we do |
excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
175
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Posted - 2014.01.25 17:06:00 -
[176] - Quote
Mr Machine Guns wrote:excillon wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:you are way off base now saying all this stuff, but you have no evidence that we have underhanded tactics or anything else you accuse of us doing God you are a lousy PR. And apparently havent read any if the 5000 threads in this forum. And I played against you guys...ive seen it. So have many others. And you are a guy that has no idea what you are talking about I've seen it? what does that even mean seen what? our japanese players beating you in a pub, or these so called underhanded tactics that we do edit: if we are cockroaches what does that make you for making messed up stereotypical statements about our Japanese players
Ive seen the tactics. That was implied. If you're going to use the English forums I suggest you work a little harder at learning it. As for what does that make me. ..id say it makes me witty and observant. |
excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
175
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Posted - 2014.01.25 17:15:00 -
[177] - Quote
And as for where youre trying to spin my comments dont bother. I have no problem with japanese players. I rather like 731command. I just dont like YOUR players japanese or otherwise.
Oh and my JAPANESE sister in law thought the DDR and hello kitty post was hilarious. |
Long Evity
1304
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Posted - 2014.01.25 17:18:00 -
[178] - Quote
excillon wrote:DJINN Kujo wrote:All corporations mentioned: I think it's funny to see, especially since more than 1/2 of them have no affiliation with Renegade. For the record Kujo, and this is just a thought based on observations: If AE and DDB policed their own alliance and did something about the filthy cockroach infestation that is Nyain San with their underhanded tactics and district locking this thread in all probability wouldnt even exist. Wanna avoid being like the next EoN? Wanna make a really good, smart PR move and shed the negative spotlight? Join the OP and help fight Nyain San.
I remember when it was the Imperfects people said these things about - now it's NS whooping everyone. Lol.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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ER-Bullitt
831
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Posted - 2014.01.25 17:27:00 -
[179] - Quote
excillon.. you still didn't answer his question tho.. what is it about NS (specifically) that urks you?
Pubstomping? Tank Spam? FOTM?
If its just district locking, or having all their districts on **** timers, that doesn't really justify the harshness to be honest. Lots of corps have been, and will continue to, lock districts as long as the ability to do so remains in the game and goes unpunished.
It seems like the cool thing to do now is hate NS because of some influx of threads on the forums. Doesn't make sense really.
Besides, they beat Godzilla... they basically won real life. |
excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
175
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Posted - 2014.01.25 17:29:00 -
[180] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:excillon wrote:DJINN Kujo wrote:All corporations mentioned: I think it's funny to see, especially since more than 1/2 of them have no affiliation with Renegade. For the record Kujo, and this is just a thought based on observations: If AE and DDB policed their own alliance and did something about the filthy cockroach infestation that is Nyain San with their underhanded tactics and district locking this thread in all probability wouldnt even exist. Wanna avoid being like the next EoN? Wanna make a really good, smart PR move and shed the negative spotlight? Join the OP and help fight Nyain San. I remember when it was the Imperfects people said these things about - now it's NS whooping everyone. Lol.
One can only hope eventually we learn to prevent corps from exploiting things like this in the future.
For the record they didnt beat me last night...it took a murder taxi with reps but I got 11 of the bastards. |
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Long Evity
1304
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Posted - 2014.01.25 17:30:00 -
[181] - Quote
excillon wrote:Long Evity wrote:excillon wrote:DJINN Kujo wrote:All corporations mentioned: I think it's funny to see, especially since more than 1/2 of them have no affiliation with Renegade. For the record Kujo, and this is just a thought based on observations: If AE and DDB policed their own alliance and did something about the filthy cockroach infestation that is Nyain San with their underhanded tactics and district locking this thread in all probability wouldnt even exist. Wanna avoid being like the next EoN? Wanna make a really good, smart PR move and shed the negative spotlight? Join the OP and help fight Nyain San. I remember when it was the Imperfects people said these things about - now it's NS whooping everyone. Lol. One can only hope eventually we learn to prevent corps from exploiting things like this in the future. For the record they didnt beat me last night...it took a murder taxi with reps but I got 11 of the bastards.
Then it sounds like your not having a problem - so what's the issue? LOL
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Renegades Bane
UFARA
22
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Posted - 2014.01.25 17:31:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:excillon wrote:DJINN Kujo wrote:All corporations mentioned: I think it's funny to see, especially since more than 1/2 of them have no affiliation with Renegade. For the record Kujo, and this is just a thought based on observations: If AE and DDB policed their own alliance and did something about the filthy cockroach infestation that is Nyain San with their underhanded tactics and district locking this thread in all probability wouldnt even exist. Wanna avoid being like the next EoN? Wanna make a really good, smart PR move and shed the negative spotlight? Join the OP and help fight Nyain San. I remember when it was the Imperfects people said these things about - now it's NS whooping everyone. Lol.
I've fought against them several times. NS didn't blow me away. I actually thought AE had a better team than NS. Doesn't matter. Btw, NS, from who did you get majority of your districts from?
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
175
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Posted - 2014.01.25 17:38:00 -
[183] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:excillon wrote:Long Evity wrote:excillon wrote:DJINN Kujo wrote:All corporations mentioned: I think it's funny to see, especially since more than 1/2 of them have no affiliation with Renegade. For the record Kujo, and this is just a thought based on observations: If AE and DDB policed their own alliance and did something about the filthy cockroach infestation that is Nyain San with their underhanded tactics and district locking this thread in all probability wouldnt even exist. Wanna avoid being like the next EoN? Wanna make a really good, smart PR move and shed the negative spotlight? Join the OP and help fight Nyain San. I remember when it was the Imperfects people said these things about - now it's NS whooping everyone. Lol. One can only hope eventually we learn to prevent corps from exploiting things like this in the future. For the record they didnt beat me last night...it took a murder taxi with reps but I got 11 of the bastards. Then it sounds like your not having a problem - so what's the issue? LOL
I just dont like them. Or what they stand for or represent. |
ER-Bullitt
833
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Posted - 2014.01.25 17:49:00 -
[184] - Quote
what does that even mean? lol |
excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
175
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Posted - 2014.01.25 17:57:00 -
[185] - Quote
ER-Bullitt wrote:what does that even mean? lol
That cheap tactics and locking districts can get you ahead. |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
340
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Posted - 2014.01.25 17:59:00 -
[186] - Quote
excillon wrote:ER-Bullitt wrote:what does that even mean? lol That cheap tactics and locking districts can get you ahead.
Once again we don't lock district, what cheap tactics are you talking about I have been asking you what do we do that other corps don't do and you can't answer my question |
excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
175
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Posted - 2014.01.25 18:08:00 -
[187] - Quote
Mr Machine Guns wrote:excillon wrote:ER-Bullitt wrote:what does that even mean? lol That cheap tactics and locking districts can get you ahead. Once again we don't lock district, what cheap tactics are you talking about I have been asking you what do we do that other corps don't do and you can't answer my question
Allow me to spell it out because you're apparently either in denial or a bit slow.
1. Equipment spam
2. Tank spam.
3. Using any possible glitch or exploit to your advantage.
As for locking just because theyre not locked now doesnt mean you dont lock them. Dont even go there.
There I spelled it out for you. God your english interpretation is terrible or yoy are just plain stupid. |
ER-Bullitt
834
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Posted - 2014.01.25 18:12:00 -
[188] - Quote
Listen up douchebag... folks have been asking you to elaborate throughout this thread, and you cant even comprehend that simple request. Who has a problem understanding English? perhaps you do..
what glitches or exploits do they use? please explain
Equipment spam? really?
Tank spam? welcome to 1.7 .. everyone and their brother has been calling in non stop tanks. NS was doing it before tanks were cool
District locking? again, welcome to new eden... this has been happening since PC started.
Now, point out the spot on the doll where big bad Nyain San touched you. |
excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
176
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Posted - 2014.01.25 18:30:00 -
[189] - Quote
ER-Bullitt wrote:Listen up douchebag... folks have been asking you to elaborate throughout this thread, and you cant even comprehend that simple request. Who has a problem understanding English? perhaps you do..
what glitches or exploits do they use? please explain
Equipment spam? really?
Tank spam? welcome to 1.7 .. everyone and their brother has been calling in non stop tanks. NS was doing it before tanks were cool
District locking? again, welcome to new eden... this has been happening since PC started.
Now, point out the spot on the doll where big bad Nyain San touched you.
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Douchebag? Ok...now you listen up you survived abortion because clearly any good qualities you may have possessed must have run down the back of your moms legs. Too bad she didnt spit you on the sheets.
Now are we done with personal attacks? Because you just lost BADLY.
Now on to business. Clearly you need reading lessons because the only person asking me to elaborate was mr. English comprehension issues. That hardly constitutes "folks". Moron. Rather than elaborate why dont you just learn to use the forum search function.That should provide you with answers. |
ER-Bullitt
837
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Posted - 2014.01.25 18:41:00 -
[190] - Quote
excillon wrote:
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Clearly you need reading lessons because the only person asking me to elaborate was mr. English comprehension issues. That hardly constitutes "folks". Moron. Rather than elaborate why dont you just learn to use the forum search function.That should provide you with answers.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1763820#post1763820
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1763825#post1763825
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ER-Bullitt
837
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Posted - 2014.01.25 18:43:00 -
[191] - Quote
The best part.. you are still refusing to explain what glitches or exploits they have used. Do you have evidence? Video proof? anything besides drivel?
If you are going to drag a corps name through the mud because its the cool thing to do these days, most likely because they pubstomped you into tears, at least come up with something original.
District locking? equipment spam? that was soooo 2013.
You are fun, please respond again lol. |
excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
176
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Posted - 2014.01.25 18:44:00 -
[192] - Quote
Now if we're finished lets not derail this nice OPs thread for personal attacks. You want to continue attacking we can do it with game mail or if you want to hear it verbally we can arrange that too. |
ER-Bullitt
837
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Posted - 2014.01.25 18:45:00 -
[193] - Quote
avoid, deflect, threaten
you sound like a politician haha |
Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
704
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Posted - 2014.01.25 19:02:00 -
[194] - Quote
Wow, all nyain gets as a PR department is Mr machine guns and they're getting all the attention, I'm jealous now.
beatin' slaves and whippin' knaves All in a days work for an Amarrican!
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excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
176
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Posted - 2014.01.25 19:07:00 -
[195] - Quote
ER-Bullitt wrote:The best part.. you are still refusing to explain what glitches or exploits they have used. Do you have evidence? Video proof? anything besides drivel?
If you are going to drag a corps name through the mud because its the cool thing to do these days, most likely because they pubstomped you into tears, at least come up with something original.
District locking? equipment/tank spam? that was soooo 2013.
You are fun, please respond again lol.
They drag their own name through the mud. And while I have been pubstomped by them...it hasnt happened lately.
As for exploits, as I said, read others posts. Im not going to go into specifics of others encounters with NS. However I will tell you of 2 I saw LAST NIGHT.
1. 2 snipers on top of the MCC one with a thale and one with a charge. Now they were hovering above it and I pulled out my sniper rifle also a charge and my reticule couldnt distinguish between them and the MCC. And they knew it because even when I aimed manually and hit them they didnt even bother moving and I know they saw it because immediately they began taking shots at me.
Everyone's seen this one before.
2. The second one was done by a heavy who basically in a nutshell turned invisible. I dont know if its a permanent glitch or was a one time thing but he knew he was doing it because I watched him repeat the process which is kind of abnormal 4 times. The ONLY reason im not posting what he specifically did is because I want to try and replicate it to see if its permanent or was due to lag. Either way he was clearly aware of it as once he did it he was meleeing people that clearly couldnt see him.
Do I have video? No I dont sit there and record my games. Do I know what I saw? Yes. Disregard my comments if you want to I really dont care but I know what I saw. I am going to try and replicate that invisible glitch just to see if its permanent or not. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
838
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Posted - 2014.01.25 19:10:00 -
[196] - Quote
lol just kidding, I don't really care. cool story tho |
excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
176
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Posted - 2014.01.25 19:13:00 -
[197] - Quote
ER-Bullitt wrote:avoid, deflect, threaten
you sound like a politician haha
No...I just want to keep this thread from flaming. You should be glad I want to continue this in private it will spare you the embarassment. |
excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
176
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Posted - 2014.01.25 19:18:00 -
[198] - Quote
ER-Bullitt wrote:lol just kidding, I don't really care. cool story tho
If you really want to know what I saw ill tell you in game and you can try it yourself. Am I accusing all of NS of cheating? No. 3 of them? YES. Am I saying wierd laggy things happen when Im playing against or even with them? YES. Do they regularly lock districts? Come on...we all know the truth hell thats a reason why this thread exists to begin with. |
Gildart Lightray
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
65
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Posted - 2014.01.25 19:39:00 -
[199] - Quote
Also you have to remember the OP isn't just targeting NS. I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, he's saying AE is equally at fault he. He might also be condemning all forms of this ever happening again, I think we've had enough of these deadly donuts. Anyway let's see how this plays out.
Forum Warrior lvl. 0
This scrub is for hire
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Long Evity
1305
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Posted - 2014.01.25 19:42:00 -
[200] - Quote
You guys are just trading one master for another. The best way to handle this is hire NF. With our win/loss rates - we're a steal!!! :3
Act now and get free anime for your PC!!!!
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
176
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Posted - 2014.01.25 19:54:00 -
[201] - Quote
Gildart Lightray wrote:Also you have to remember the OP isn't just targeting NS. I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, he's saying AE is equally at fault he. He might also be condemning all forms of this ever happening again, I think we've had enough of these deadly donuts. Anyway let's see how this plays out.
I understand that perfectly. Personally though I believe NS is at fault the most though of renegade. |
excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
176
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Posted - 2014.01.25 20:00:00 -
[202] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:You guys are just trading one master for another. The best way to handle this is hire NF. With our win/loss rates - we're a steal!!! :3
Act now and get free anime for your PC!!!!
I dont doubt TPs ability at all. I also respect the fact that you're only in it for ISK and are upfront about that fact. I think its a shame you guys arent more involved but my opinion doesn't really matter when it comes to that does it?
But I do keep in mind TPs services are available. |
Renegades Bane
UFARA
23
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Posted - 2014.01.25 20:58:00 -
[203] - Quote
The situation is terrible people. Small corps get eaten by bigger corps and only fight each other never aiming for the challenge. I've been in the less successful corps and I can tell you this. I'm all up for smaller corps attacking bigger , better , stronger corps but it's very difficult because of the moral. Not only are they crushed physically but emotionally as well. We need to have more of a fighting spirit underdogs of DUST!! Shake it off and send another attack!! If you try hard enough you can have at least 1 PC battles per week if not 2 if you don't have a PFC district. Fight on underdogs!! And if you take a district? Defend it! If you lose it? Don't be sad! Take it back or keep trying!
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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Long Evity
1307
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Posted - 2014.01.25 21:09:00 -
[204] - Quote
Renegades Bane wrote:The situation is terrible people. Small corps get eaten by bigger corps and only fight each other never aiming for the challenge. I've been in the less successful corps and I can tell you this. I'm all up for smaller corps attacking bigger , better , stronger corps but it's very difficult because of the moral. Not only are they crushed physically but emotionally as well. We need to have more of a fighting spirit underdogs of DUST!! Shake it off and send another attack!! If you try hard enough you can have at least 1 PC battles per week if not 2 if you don't have a PFC district. Fight on underdogs!! And if you take a district? Defend it! If you lose it? Don't be sad! Take it back or keep trying!
My wallet isn't full enough, can you preach better?
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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Renegades Bane
UFARA
23
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Posted - 2014.01.25 21:16:00 -
[205] - Quote
Long Evity wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:The situation is terrible people. Small corps get eaten by bigger corps and only fight each other never aiming for the challenge. I've been in the less successful corps and I can tell you this. I'm all up for smaller corps attacking bigger , better , stronger corps but it's very difficult because of the moral. Not only are they crushed physically but emotionally as well. We need to have more of a fighting spirit underdogs of DUST!! Shake it off and send another attack!! If you try hard enough you can have at least 1 PC battles per week if not 2 if you don't have a PFC district. Fight on underdogs!! And if you take a district? Defend it! If you lose it? Don't be sad! Take it back or keep trying! My wallet isn't full enough, can you preach better?
No
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
1143
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Posted - 2014.01.26 05:17:00 -
[206] - Quote
I think this is a troll. look at the op's name. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
2836
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Posted - 2014.01.26 10:56:00 -
[207] - Quote
Marad''er wrote:Yes attack plz. Ill fund you guys if you need isk btw
I'll take you up on that, you know.
I'm always happy to spend someone elses money :D |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2341
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Posted - 2014.01.26 16:21:00 -
[208] - Quote
Mr Machine Guns wrote:
He won't ssy i still think his name choice was a horrible name his name sounds like he should be in our alliance not against it, but that can just be how i feel.
bane
b-ün
noun
1.
a cause of great distress or annoyance.
He is saying he is the cause of great distress or annoyance for Renegade alliance. Doesn't sound like he should be in your alliance to me.
What will be your legacy? Will you rise, or will you fall?
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Renegades Bane
UFARA
23
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Posted - 2014.01.26 16:59:00 -
[209] - Quote
Forlorn Destrier wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:
He won't ssy i still think his name choice was a horrible name his name sounds like he should be in our alliance not against it, but that can just be how i feel.
bane b-ün noun 1. a cause of great distress or annoyance. He is saying he is the cause of great distress or annoyance for Renegade alliance. Doesn't sound like he should be in your alliance to me.
+9001
Thank you very much. You're like. The only one that got that.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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john smitharooni
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2014.01.27 15:23:00 -
[210] - Quote
@Renegades Bane
What's the ingame chat for UFARA?
The movement is gathering steam and several players that I know want to get involved.
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
2103
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Posted - 2014.01.27 16:00:00 -
[211] - Quote
non-profit.. like what morals? sorry someone always takes the top and then it all goes to **** for a variety of reasons FA or NF will be top dog Zatara/Cubs will go insane and become a tyrant of some sort and EoN/CRONOS/RA 2.0
A-Teams win Battles B-Teams win Campaigns C-Teams win Wars
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Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2343
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Posted - 2014.01.27 16:56:00 -
[212] - Quote
Renegades Bane wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:
He won't ssy i still think his name choice was a horrible name his name sounds like he should be in our alliance not against it, but that can just be how i feel.
bane b-ün noun 1. a cause of great distress or annoyance. He is saying he is the cause of great distress or annoyance for Renegade alliance. Doesn't sound like he should be in your alliance to me. +9001 Thank you very much. You're like. The only one that got that.
Most people just think it was the name of a cool villain without actually looking up the definition of the word...
What will be your legacy? Will you rise, or will you fall?
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Roman837
Dem Durrty Boyz
Renegade Alliance
92
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Posted - 2014.01.27 18:40:00 -
[213] - Quote
Marston, can you please post on your main? This whole Renegades Bane thing would be much more credible if you posted from your main. Yes, WE know its you. Cats out of the bag, you have a leak.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
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Renegades Bane
UFARA
29
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Posted - 2014.01.27 20:06:00 -
[214] - Quote
Roman837 wrote:Marston, can you please post on your main? This whole Renegades Bane thing would be much more credible if you posted from your main. Yes, WE know its you. Cats out of the bag, you have a leak.
Someone else claiming to be me? Lol trust me. The real me is insignificant. I'm a merc that not a lot of people know.
I will not sleep until all of them are burning...
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john smitharooni
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:25:00 -
[215] - Quote
UFARA is the answer!
A delicious fire will soon burn in Molden Heath! |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
2219
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Posted - 2014.01.28 22:49:00 -
[216] - Quote
You have the entire 1 member of Critical-Impact behind you.
Although i don't see the point of this as soon as AE falls they will just be replaced by another corp that does the same thing...
Selling Rare Templar BPO's 250Mil ISK
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