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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:23:00 -
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We've been attacking Renegade for a while. Unfortunately a lot of you have pissed us off in the meantime. I can't exactly help Zatara when he's in an alliance that talks smack about mine, and supposedly he's leading a coalition, one that was suppose to attack renegade a few days ago in masses, but failed to do so, translation, the coalition is an unorganized cluster**** with people only working towards what benefits them, with the exception of a few.
It was not long ago SVER was helping Renegade kill me, now they are killing each other.
I think I will just wait, if we're at 1.8 I can only imagine PC 2.0 is around the corner. If it truly is EVE players transporting clones as stated in the EVE Vegas presentation, none of you will have anything to worry about, since most DUST corps have little to no EVE side. Renegade has about 5 active pilots in the area, between PD. LRA. and myself. It shouldn't be too hard to set up a gate camp and pop their ships before they can even get to a planet.
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:35:00 -
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Renegades Bane wrote:
The point of this war isn't to end all wars and create a "better" donut. All donuts are bad. There is away to organize these corps. They need to take risks. This war is to create more wars in the future that aren't these rebellions against donuts. There is away.
I don't think you read at all what I said, I am counting on PC opening beyond Molden Heath soon with EVE pilots transporting clones to districts to start with :)
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:40:00 -
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Long Evity, personally the only anime I really really really think worth seeing is Legend Of Galactic Heroes. It's like New Eden, with ground battles and spaceship boarding and fleet tactics.
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
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Posted - 2014.01.24 20:51:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:Renegades Bane wrote:
The point of this war isn't to end all wars and create a "better" donut. All donuts are bad. There is away to organize these corps. They need to take risks. This war is to create more wars in the future that aren't these rebellions against donuts. There is away.
I don't think you read at all what I said I am counting on PC opening beyond Molden Heath soon with EVE pilots transporting clones to districts to start with :) I seriously hope you don't think the top corps are ignorant enough to not have any EvE support at all. If anything - top corps will remain top corps because the EvE alliances who want to get involved will want the best - and it won't be from corps who track record in PC is getting removed every other month Lol
I didn't say that, I said Renegade has 5 active pilots in the region, translation, their EVE side is fairly insignificant, and if you think a powerful EVE alliance is going to disband to join Renegade, that's not going to happen. If anything, Renegade will disband and join one of the major Nullsec Alliances :/
I only say this because I know how hard it is to convince an EVE player that DUST is worth while. The only place it's even remotely profitable is FW.
I recommend corps without EVE support join LRA or Public Disorder. They have a good EVE side so far. Renegade's support is fairly limited in the Region, most of their EVE Forces are very spread out, I don't imagine they will come back to MH when they are making good isk in Nullsec/Wormholes
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:10:00 -
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For a full assault on RA, you would need to void the rules of PFC so other corps have clones to attack with.
Speaking from an EVE side though, I highly recommend you try to take districts in Egbinger, (during French hours) or Bosena (during US hours). Since they are pirate areas, and they are least likely to receive orbital support in those areas.
Though I doubt the Coalition has come to this conclusion or it would have happened some time ago when I was asked for assistance on this.
Point being, the Coalition is too disorganized and riddled with lots of spies, and if RA starts losing to many districts they will lock them, and in turn you will just lock yours in fear of them. It's a lose lose situation, where few members in the coalition actually benefit.
PC Mechanics need to be fixed.
PC 2.0 is the answer you've been waiting for.
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:22:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:Can I ask a question to you big EvE alliance guys.... Does it matter how much EvE support you get if you can't win a game 
Yes, speaking generally if they remove the PC warbarge, which they will soon, and the enemy can't get orbitals at all and you get one every 3 minutes, it should matter.
If they make it so Clones have to be transported VIA EVE players, this will also change the dynamics since, they will have to avoid large gate camps. The clones will probably die in a ship before reaching the district. Also if they make the new EVE Warbarge customizable and allow for it to hold more clones than a district, it should be pretty easy to take a planet or two in a day.
Keep in mind my alliance and the Dust corps within it are allied with most of you, and unlike you we unlocked our districts, we lost them to AE, if we instead attacked some of our allies districts without Renegade ringing for you anymore, we would probably own quite a few, but we have instead decided to help you guys fight them.
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:26:00 -
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Well in the meantime I suggest we turn our eyes to the EoN you once all rebelled against that is currently taking Renegade Districts :)
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/districts/changes
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:29:00 -
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DaNizzle4shizle wrote:I just had a great idea. We should have a meeting with RA and tell them that they can keep their current districts. Once PC expands, they should not touch those districts. Leave them to the rest of us. Just a thought I had
Assuming that EVE players have to transport those clones, it really shouldn't be a problem anyway, expanding RA beyond Molden Heath would be too costly. Again this is only if CCP fixes the PC mechanics with 2.0 :)
A few wardecs will ensure none of their ships even arrive in the area.
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.01.24 21:34:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:DaNizzle4shizle wrote:I just had a great idea. We should have a meeting with RA and tell them that they can keep their current districts. Once PC expands, they should not touch those districts. Leave them to the rest of us. Just a thought I had Heres a better idea to speed up the opening of more district is you give RA all of the district or everyone just joins our alliances
That does sound like a better idea than a disorganized coalition of known back stabbers and people who still work with Renegade Alliance.
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:21:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:I see the question of actually winning the game to be more important then stopping the war barge from arriving. Clones can be sent and used from anyone and NF or FA could simply ring in, but not being able to win a battle in the first place seems more of a pressing concern. Why would your EvE alliance continue to waste time on a losing corp anyways?
You have a lot of mix ideas of what winning and losing are.
Losing is losing your members or having them stop playing
Losing is spending isk and having your transportation die before it gets to the battle.
Losing is spending a clone pack to attack an alliance you can't defeat simply because they have more clones than you.
Winning is your corp having fun at the end of the day and staying active.
Winning is killing your enemy before they can touch you, coincidentally we can't really be touched outside of pub matches, since we have no districts, our isk is safe and we are making more everyday and are coming up with ways to make more in the "Great Depression of Molden Heath"
What's ultimately going to happen in this coalition is that a few corps will get districts out of it, districts they will probably lose again to RA, they will have used up a lot of their isk and soon go bankrupt, RA will still stay as strong as ever, they will lock districts if they lose to many to maintain their isk flow. Bottom line that's what's going to happen.
In the mean time I will be building both EVE and DUST forces so when we do expand we are nothing to be trifled with :)
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:39:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:I'm not going to read this. Simply because winning is making ISK - losing is losing ISK. That's all there is to it for me, and any real mercenary. IDK why guy pretend to play soldier in a mercenary game, but you'll see the light someday. Holding districts is more for your CEO/directors benefit then the average player.
So if I am making isk, I am winning? So why do you say my corps are losing, they are making isk, our alliance is making isk and we are growing, we're only a few weeks old.
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.01.24 22:43:00 -
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Last but not least, Anything in NEW EDEN takes time. It takes time to become a skilled pilot, and it takes time to be a skilled merc, likewise it takes time to skill into that stuff.
I understand these things. Everyone is so worried about Molden Heath despite PC 2.0 opening beyond MH
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:05:00 -
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I dunno, my alts are in the CFC, I make plenty of isk that all goes to me, which I can't say for the same as RA, their isk only goes to their corp/alliance and a select few members. their players really don't make that much. DUST isk is laughable compared to EVE isk.
I can't really talk smack about you long, I dunno who your alt is, just that you have some reason to hide it, but if you think I'm concerned about isk, when I make more than most, (thanks to blink for getting my start up funds) you would be incorrect sir.
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:07:00 -
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It wasn't long ago Dust players were getting eve accounts and buying plex to give me isk for us to clear the planet so they could drop orbitals :) I think I am winning more than most.
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:14:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:I dunno, my alts are in the CFC, I make plenty of isk that all goes to me, which I can't say for the same as RA, their isk only goes to their corp/alliance and a select few members. their players really don't make that much. DUST isk is laughable compared to EVE isk.
I can't really talk smack about you long, I dunno who your alt is, just that you have some reason to hide it, but if you think I'm concerned about isk, when I make more than most, (thanks to blink for getting my start up funds) you would be incorrect sir. Long=Sota Pop Read the above post for more info
That makes life easier,
so they are the ones currently taking districts from RA, hats off :)
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Spartacus Dust
The-Legionnaires
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Posted - 2014.01.24 23:17:00 -
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Kingseeker Kobra wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:It wasn't long ago Dust players were getting eve accounts and buying plex to give me isk for us to clear the planet so they could drop orbitals :) I think I am winning more than most. Why not use all that eve isk to secure and defend a district? We all but guarantee results! Locked districts are not an issue either. You can even hire 11 of us at a time to give 5 of your men PC experience with the big dogs.
Because district mechanics are broken, most people want EVE players to use escrow to get isk instead of just up front EVE isk, and DUST players seem to think their districts are worth more than they are. I'll be patient and wait for the market to open and PC to expand.
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