DUST Search - CCP/ We wants an answer about respec for 1.8.

Christiphoros von Poe wrote:

Jadd Hatchen wrote:

Aizen Intiki wrote:

ANON Cerberus wrote:

TLDR - JUST DO A FULL RESPEC AND BE DONE WITH!

I say, release all of this, give everyone 1 full respec and be done with. I wouldn't normally ask but the changes are so drastic in some cases it is totally fair imho.

After that respecs can be discussed as a way to possibly make CCP more money through the use of aurum. Even then I would like them limited - in a similar fashion to how you can respec attributes in EVE (I know it is somewhat different but the general time constraints seem fair)

vehicles don't need a respec. No.

Hell yes they will! Once they include the Amarr and Minmatar vehicles they better damn well give one.

Right?

The new skill tee was designed to be able to accommodate for that. If you skill into HAV's you skill into ALL HAVs... The only thing would be the vehicle specialization... Like pouring skills into Incubus piloting. But I'm sure it would be like adding new weapons. There will most likely be no respec.

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Amarrgheddon Warcaste 119	Posted - 2014.01.25 21:59:00 - [61] - Quote They still haven't made up their mind about a respec? Or worse they made up their mind and don't have the balls to announce it. I have something to confess: I am not left handed
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 925	Posted - 2014.01.25 22:03:00 - [62] - Quote Drapedup Drippedout wrote: Bethhy wrote: We are getting new content and the stats and bonuses are being tweaked. Skills aren't getting deleted. Items aren't getting deleted. Please link where this was confirmed. Please link Dev blog, confirmed release content, and these "tweaks" you speak of. I must've missed the patch notes... The point is without knowing what they are changing, then all of this is based on speculation. If they change the suit bonuses and that in turn directly affects the modules or sp allocation (hacking and min logi) then yes, the players deserve to redistribute their sp according to the "new" set of rules. Saying live with your decisions is great, I am and have been. But this is CCP changing my decisions, and because they are initiating the change, it warrants a respec. They have changed a lot of things on a lot of suits. This time? It affects you. When it was Nerfing the fitting abilities of the Caldari Logistics suit? sure. When it was Changing the bonuses of the Caldari Assault suit? sure. But the hacking bonus?!?! They have linked the suit changes and tweaks, yes? they are not final... they have said that more racial suit content is coming out?. They have not talked about removing entire variants of items and simplifying tree's like on vehicles where they removed Logistical LAV's and DS's... restructured entire tree's, removed militia items, std, proto... No Items, weapons or skills are useless when changes occur. As anyone has been victim of a tweaked item that made it less effective, have still been able to use it to the point where it comes back(HMG?) Suit's and items will always change and get buffed, nerfed, added to and sometimes even removed... This is the nature of a game that consistently changes, gets added to, tweaked etc.. and new content like the Rail Rifle and Combat rifle which was saved up for and naturally progressed into when it became available.. works better for the game balance, the drive to have something new to train towards, and CCP's business model of having people try out new content and or inspire to use it, reflecting on the Aurum store to help them get there.
Leonid Tybalt Dark Knightz Corp. 193	Posted - 2014.01.25 22:07:00 - [63] - Quote Weznof Nalek wrote: I shall reopen this issue every day until an official response. Thank you advance CCP. I doubt you'll get much response by threatening the developers like that. The devs are in no way obliged to talk about anything they're doing,. It doesn't matter how much aurum you may have bought or how long you've been playing, you're still not entitled to any information regarding upcoming updates. If they wanted to they could close down the dev blogs and tell us jack ** and there's NOTHING you could do about it. The fact that they decide to tell us anything at all is not a right, it's a privilige. So get your ***** act together and can those threats about how you'll try to bother them until they give you a reply. If I was in their shoes, I'd stonewall the hell out of you if you approached me like that.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 48	Posted - 2014.01.26 15:58:00 - [64] - Quote All you people saying "don't give the respec" are being selfish. Just because you don't need one doesn't mean we all should suffer on your behalf.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 60	Posted - 2014.01.26 16:11:00 - [65] - Quote bamboo x wrote: All you people saying "don't give the respec" are being selfish. Just because you don't need one doesn't mean we all should suffer on your behalf. Exactly, why just dont make optionla loop and make it possible for people who want it. There was too many changes ingame and for people who spec in someone what is obsolete after change (CCPs change) its just logical step. They can make it, then hy not. If its good for part of community its good for community. Good for comunity, good for game and who is against its just agains part of community, ergo against comunity itself. Support - Tactician/Support
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 405	Posted - 2014.01.27 22:32:00 - [66] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: ANON Cerberus wrote: TLDR - JUST DO A FULL RESPEC AND BE DONE WITH! I say, release all of this, give everyone 1 full respec and be done with. I wouldn't normally ask but the changes are so drastic in some cases it is totally fair imho. After that respecs can be discussed as a way to possibly make CCP more money through the use of aurum. Even then I would like them limited - in a similar fashion to how you can respec attributes in EVE (I know it is somewhat different but the general time constraints seem fair) vehicles don't need a respec. No. Hell yes they will! Once they include the Amarr and Minmatar vehicles they better damn well give one. Right?
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 405	Posted - 2014.01.27 22:33:00 - [67] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Just put their foot done and say we are never giving respec's... get over it. live with the history of your character and naturally progress into the new content as they add it. This crying for a respec every single patch is never ever gonna stop until that happens... i agree totally. That's why I've been advocating for this instead: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118583&find=unread
DJINN Nukem Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 519	Posted - 2014.01.27 22:58:00 - [68] - Quote I just want to know cause I got 2.3 mill sp saved and if there is a respect I will feel like I have wasted a lot of time saving lol Trample The Weak Hurdle the Dead
Christiphoros von Poe Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 77	Posted - 2014.01.27 23:05:00 - [69] - Quote Jadd Hatchen wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: ANON Cerberus wrote: TLDR - JUST DO A FULL RESPEC AND BE DONE WITH! I say, release all of this, give everyone 1 full respec and be done with. I wouldn't normally ask but the changes are so drastic in some cases it is totally fair imho. After that respecs can be discussed as a way to possibly make CCP more money through the use of aurum. Even then I would like them limited - in a similar fashion to how you can respec attributes in EVE (I know it is somewhat different but the general time constraints seem fair) vehicles don't need a respec. No. Hell yes they will! Once they include the Amarr and Minmatar vehicles they better damn well give one. Right? The new skill tee was designed to be able to accommodate for that. If you skill into HAV's you skill into ALL HAVs... The only thing would be the vehicle specialization... Like pouring skills into Incubus piloting. But I'm sure it would be like adding new weapons. There will most likely be no respec. (1) "Exile" Assault Rifle reserved for: Fire of Prometheus
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 12677	Posted - 2014.01.27 23:06:00 - [70] - Quote No updates; chinese new years after all :( CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked

Orin the Freak The Solecism of Limitation 706	Posted - 2014.01.27 23:07:00 - [71] - Quote I would support at LEAST Dropsuit command, and Weapons respec. I would prefer a full infantry respec (including dropsuit upgrades) but I just don't know how much is "too much" to ask. Truthfully, I am saving for my secondary suit right now, and the outcome of what/if we can respec will determine the path I chose.
fawkuima juggalo Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 888	Posted - 2014.01.28 01:08:00 - [72] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: No updates; chinese new years after all :( thx for keeping us posted. - LOGI REGISTRY, *LIBRARY, AND H.O.F. -
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 406	Posted - 2014.01.28 15:51:00 - [73] - Quote DJINN Nukem wrote: I just want to know cause I got 2.3 mill sp saved and if there is a respect I will feel like I have wasted a lot of time saving lol You already have wasted a lot of time. That's 2.3 million SP that could be kicking someone's ass today, but because CCP is stupid with how they implemented the verisimilitude of this game, you and I both get screwed.
Jadd Hatchen Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 406	Posted - 2014.01.28 15:52:00 - [74] - Quote Christiphoros von Poe wrote: Jadd Hatchen wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: ANON Cerberus wrote: TLDR - JUST DO A FULL RESPEC AND BE DONE WITH! I say, release all of this, give everyone 1 full respec and be done with. I wouldn't normally ask but the changes are so drastic in some cases it is totally fair imho. After that respecs can be discussed as a way to possibly make CCP more money through the use of aurum. Even then I would like them limited - in a similar fashion to how you can respec attributes in EVE (I know it is somewhat different but the general time constraints seem fair) vehicles don't need a respec. No. Hell yes they will! Once they include the Amarr and Minmatar vehicles they better damn well give one. Right? The new skill tee was designed to be able to accommodate for that. If you skill into HAV's you skill into ALL HAVs... The only thing would be the vehicle specialization... Like pouring skills into Incubus piloting. But I'm sure it would be like adding new weapons. There will most likely be no respec. So if I skill into a blaster or rail, I'll get the equivalent Minmatar skills? Dito for Amarr? NOPE not the same and definitely not equal.
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 1	Posted - 2014.01.28 15:57:00 - [75] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Still working on it. Thanks for the update!
XEROO COOL Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 415	Posted - 2014.01.28 16:03:00 - [76] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Ultimate Bacon Double Cheeseburger from Jack in the Box is what life is all about. on sourdough Everyone has a plan until you punch em in the face! (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Xeroo.Cool on Skype.
pdiddy anfama KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 114	Posted - 2014.01.28 16:13:00 - [77] - Quote Weznof Nalek wrote: As you have allowed players to respec a vehicle. For the next update, the infantry players will they have this respec too? You change the whole nature of the infantry by this new update. I shall reopen this issue every day until an official response. Thank you advance CCP. Just give everyone a respec... Just like we requested once a year... I want one. Time to try something different. What is the harm? Besides the try hards having every weapon and being able to spec into the flavor of the month. Why not give everyone a chance a flavor of the month. The one's not wanting a respec only smite people with the FOTM. Everyone will have the opportunity to try a new suit with respec. Swarms are almost useless unless the smack a tank with all there health down and no hardner remaining. Give the swarm guys a chance to go forge gun. CCP fix PC your core game mode Blah blah blah about locking districts as long as there is frame rate drops
Nirwanda Vaughns 295	Posted - 2014.01.28 16:16:00 - [78] - Quote My bet is dropsuit command sp/isk refund same as vehicles got. wouldn't hope for much else Proto and proud!!
Ripley Riley 390	Posted - 2014.01.28 16:22:00 - [79] - Quote I believe the last we heard was that it is being considered internally and that was quite some time ago. Well, you have been discussing it for weeks now. Care to let your players know what the hell is going on with respecs? Will an SP refund be given with the launch of 1.8? If yes, will it be a complete SP refund? If no, which branches of the skill tree will be refunded? If SP refunds are not being given, please provide the rationale behind this decision. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Sparky1510 Lunatic Response Unit 0	Posted - 2014.01.28 16:23:00 - [80] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I'd don't think I'd be able to get upgrades; so suits and guns only. Like I said though conversation is ongoing. Best case full respecialization worst case nothing. If we don't get upgrades that's really not that much of a loss since essentially all of those skills would benefit whatever suit you specced into to some capacity. I do however think that Weapons must be paired with Dropsuit Command, otherwise those wishing to spec out of heavies will essentially get screwed with weapons they can't use. I agree that weapons should be in tandem with DS command. I would like to have upgrades back. I skilled into alot of the equipment because I was running a logi. Turns out I am a terrible Logi though. lol. So if we get this respec, I will most likely be running a Sentinel. All that SP into equipment is going to be useless to me because I couldn't use it. I would really like to have all three areas (DS Command, Upgrades, and weapons) redone.



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