Has anyone complained about logis spamming too many reps? If you have im sorry ,i shouldnt have repped you and just left you to die.

Forcing logistics into making only one equipment effectively usable is like making assaults and commandos only able to use one type of weapon effectively.

Logi Reaction to 1.8 equipment adjustment once again proves that the Logi role is the most selfish and entitled.

Don't be suprised that you see more assaults on the field that each carries a different item to replace logis.

Except they'll be dealing with higher fitting costs and their equipment will never be as good as a Logi doing the same thing.

This. People are continuously trying to throw invalid arguments against the nerf but I haven't met any that made real sense.

Also, Will we be able to deploy supply depots?

And who should be rewarded the most?

This. People are continuously trying to throw invalid arguments against the nerf but I haven't met any that made real sense.

Forcing logistics into making only one equipment effectively usable is like making assaults and commandos only able to use one type of weapon effectively.

All logis need to be able to use all equipment effectively with bonuses to a specific one. Equipment usage was fine (aside from the scanner) and there was no need for nerfs.

This. People are continuously trying to throw invalid arguments against the nerf but I haven't met any that made real sense.

Just a personal thought:

No logi should get a bonus to nanohives. Caldari should get get a bonus that allows needles to restore shield HP as well as armor HP on pickup instead.

Would make it more interesting, methinks.

crazy aint it, people are acting like ccp killed their pet cat, then sodomized its corpse. I think the new changes to logistics are fine tbo

It's not about being more effective. I have no idea how the game will play, but the question is if logis are really valuable compared to an extra gunplayer on the battlefield if assaults can take care of themselves and heavies can just be safe in a location after some hives are deployed.

The value given between a support suit and battle suit seems even more biased to bringing firepower (and spam equipment and forgot about it).

Amarr Logis can still drop 3 second uplinks.

Caldari Logis can still drop many long lasting amma/rep hives

Gallente Logi can still scan down anything other than a Gallente Scout or a cloaked scout of any other variety.

Minmatar Logi can still lay down 160 reps per second on a heavy from 40 meters away.

It's just that now no SINGLE logi can do all those things. Now every Logi is important (except maybe Caldari, they're not all that useful), every logi is essential. No more domination by the gallante or minmatar logi. This is fair.

The only true nerf to equipment was the scanner, which, let's face it - constant 360 degree scans was never working as intended.

Other than that equipment stats WITH THE LOGI BONUSES are more or less the same. All of the changes are reasonable and make sense, except for perhaps the rep tool range nerf which was unnecessary, but the repair rate makes sense.

Welcome to the new order of Logis. You're important, but you're on a team, no just with the people you support but with your fellow logis as well. This is now a heavily team reliant game. Having a well balanced team is essential.

But you also assume that the logi has no capacity to fight, which isn't true. A logi is trading slightly increased support effectiveness for slightly decreased combat effectiveness. The reverse it true for assaults, with slightly increased combat effectiveness for slightly decreased support effectiveness.

Because the CCp guy incharge is call CCP LOGI Bro. I know we need logi and you should be awarded for being logi. But guys top the charts with 1-5kills just spam droping spawn points randomly (spawn farming) over guys with like 20-0...which do you think requires more skill to play? And who should be rewarded the most?

Well don't throw all logis into the same equipment spam filled boat.

I think the "pure support" logis are bad logis. They should be just as active as any assault, albeit more cautious and indirect, when it comes to actual combat. It shouldn't be just about "drop uplinks and print money", it should be about being able to carry higher level equipment and more of it, so the assaults can focus their fitting resources more on combat and less on carrying around equipment. Remember, we don't know if they're changing the resources on Assault suits...trying to carry decent equipment could make an assault suffer quite a bit, making Logistics far more valuable than you might think.

In the end we'll have to see where the cards fall, but I wouldn't count the usefulness of the Logi suit out just yet.

The OP has put forth far too logical of an explanation for these forums...

Because the CCp guy incharge is call CCP LOGI Bro. I know we need logi and you should be awarded for being logi. But guys top the charts with 1-5kills just spam droping spawn points randomly (spawn farming) over guys with like 20-0...which do you think requires more skill to play? And who should be rewarded the most?