Since, it is obvious from the responses of the community that Flaylocks are undesirable it should be removed and SP refunded.

Observe:

• Flaylocks are despised by most of the community.
• Flaylocks fail to produce consistant results, and fail at their intendd use.
• their intended use was obscured because of the nerf.
• hitting targets is too hard because of the inconsitancy in splahs damage distribution and small radius
• Even prototype flaylocks cannot compete with a milita scambler pistol

The SP refund is deserved because Flaylocks are an entire field of SP that is useless. When tactical assault rilfes where nerfed, no SP was refunded because it was a field of Assault rifles. Therefore, you could simply switch to using std AR, breach and burst without investing more SP.

Since very few if any are using flaylocks on their fits and the FLaylock is getting no kills (CCP has the information and charts and knows these numbers are in the 10s out of the 1,000s of players in DUST) it should just be removed. When the information for flaylocks is reviewed and compared to that of SMGs, nova knives and scramble pistols we can see that it doesn't even make average.

According to Lore Minmatar use cheap but RELIABLE weaponry. Anything ineffective and/or unreliable is discarded. The lfaylock is both unreliable and ineffective even when it does connect.


This is a petition and discusion.

I move for us to remove the flaylock and refund SP. All in favor just confirm it.

...It's a Minmatarr weaponery isn't ?
So Minmatarr Assaults get +5 ammo per mag isn't ?

:)

that will NEVER happen. too many people hate it, and CCP only listens to those guys...

they nerfed the flaylock before they nerfed caldari logi's and caldari logi's had been OP for 4 months at that point.

People don't hate it. People hated it. Please note the tense change. The weapon was op as anything ever was and now it is a bit up. It needs either a small splash increase or a small damage increase. The buff doesn't need to be big just enough to bring its DPS in line with other side arms (note that it should be on the lower side of the current side arm crop since its blast radius means less aiming is needed than the other weapons and its fast reload speed means that its low ammo count is not much of a downside).

At this point, now that rifle hit detection is working, you could return the flaylock to its old stats and it wouldn't be overpowered.

I sign to counter sign.

I disapprove of this thread.

No, I am not obligated to explain.

If u want it removed so much then fine it should be, but WITHOUT ANY SP REFUND. If people put skills into the flavour of the month, then they shouldn't get them back when it gets nurfed.

If u want it removed so much then fine it should be, but WITHOUT ANY SP REFUND. If people put skills into the flavour of the month, then they shouldn't get them back when it gets nurfed.

This thread is just making the flaylock more popular again, thanks you sir... for you have FAILED.

By the way I flaylocked another 5 Gunnlogis, a Viper, Grimsnes, Python and countless LAVs this last week.

Flaylock is OP.

I killed several heavies yesterday :) my flaylock is my troll weapon like the plasma cannon... if I was gonna go all try hard mode I'd use my TT-3 or my M209 ... I miss the days where people couldn't stack 800+ armor on a medium frame though... But I must admit.. I shot a dropship with it and it got tangled up in the city and died.. it was hilarious

Ya I completely agree, I get so much more enjoyment from Slaylocking punks (Like when a scout jumps on my back with a shotgun and I just turn around and pump 2 explosive rounds in his throat) Of course we all can run around with our submachine guns and scrambler pistols but that's just not fun for me. Not to mention I know it must be fun for people to ACTUALLY bump into people using the Flaylock, I sure as hell get excited for a Slaylock Showdown.

By the way: the fruitbag that started this thread blocked my posts because he couldn't handle the truth... Pathetic.

This one time I was loving the flaylock so much that I went dual flaylock.. it was a terrible idea but I must admit, they were not expecting another flaylock it was a great deal of fun but costly. The only real reason why I use the Scrambler Pistol is because the headshot bonus is ridiculous. Smg is the "Oh **** I'm not gonna have enough time to reload before I die"

The flaylock will never get buffed. People keep moving to nerf everything that is minmatar. They are going to nerf SMGs, they want to cripple the CR, the HMG is already garbage, mass drivers are a joke, and flaylocks are laughable at best.
Minmatar assult suits are garbage, minmatar logi's are pathetic, minmatar scouts have no purpose and the minmatar heavy is goingt o be the weakest with no actual difference in movement speed among the heavies.

all in all, the minmatar as a race are inferior to every other race in just about every regard in dust. This isn't entirely CCP's fault. CCP gave minmatar weakness many glaring weakness but tried to balance those weaknesses with wonderful advantages...

The community as a whole continues to complain about every advantage something minmatar has until it gets nerfed. Now, the minmatar race is inferior in every regard to the other races (primarily galente and caldari, but also amar in most respscts).

So, if the minmatar are going to be so bad, and we have to try that much harder to get the same results, they should eliminate the race and give back SP. My idea is this. If something minmatar is weak, ask to have it buffed. if the community refuses to let it get buffed to an efficient level, then remove the weapon/suit and refund the SP. its only fair.

Starting with the flaylock.


Btw: the reason why i block people is when they are clearly trolling. Trolling has nothing to do with truth or lies, trolls just want to annoy people and i dnt take bullshit from anyone.

While we're on the topic, should we remove/nerf SMGs because some people use it as a main weapon instead of a sidearm?

That's like saying "Can we nerf all light weapons because people are using it in the heavy weapon slot?" Can we nerf/remove you for daring to say such a thing?

Skirmish 1.0 was removed because it caused the catastrophic memory leaks that made your console lock up every 2-3 matches if you didn't do a pre-emptive re-log every battle or 2 ... and that was with the 5 minute load times aswell :-(