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Vapor Forseti THE-TITANS 9	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:14:00 - [31] - Quote title wrote: No respec plz Then don't request one. No one's forcing you to. The Captain of THE-TITANS and proud Militia Pub Stomper.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1493	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:18:00 - [32] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: Atiim wrote: All credibility is lost with that statement. You can't cope with the consequences to a decision that you didn't make. Go home troll. Shouldn't play DUST, or any multiplayer game, in that case. There's always people making decisions that affect you. In what other FPS, or any multiplayer game for that matter, does to take upwards of 6 months of grinding to max out a specific role? I ground for months to max out my play style, and now my suit is changing so much that it won't even compliment my play style at all anymore. Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1722	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:20:00 - [33] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Why. Huge new changes = respec. Vehicle users got it. Yep. It's unfair to infantry who are already getting laughed at by tanks. Idk if people realize, but annual respects will probably become a thing at this rate. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 257	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:21:00 - [34] - Quote devonus durga wrote: Yes heavy and scout respec, no medium respec. You chose your medium suit BC of its flavor, or ts opness. The flavor isn't changing, and if you just wanna switch to the new form suit since its discovered, or the one the number crunchers are thinking will be MST beastly, well sorry, but don't think you should get a respec. I'd agree with you here, except for if they change the slot layouts and racial bonuses on the Logistic and Assault suits. I picked my suit due to its bonuses and slot layout. I spent WEEKS of saving SP and crunching numbers to figure out the best suit for my play style. Not to mention I'm a hardcore Caldari loyalist and have always wanted to play as a scout. Why shouldn't I get the option to spec into my Caldari Scout suit now that its offered? Before this I was forced into only medium frames if I wanted to stick to my Caldari loyalty. PS; Yes my character is Minmatar. Yes I made a mistake when I created my character. No I didn't realize it until quite a few weeks of grinding SP. Yes I am a moron. Yes CCP refuses to change it for me. No I will not sleep on that dirty rusty Minmatar slave bed.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10234	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:23:00 - [35] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Why. Huge new changes = respec. Vehicle users got it. Yep. It's unfair to infantry who are already getting laughed at by tanks. Idk if people realize, but annual respects will probably become a thing at this rate. I just heard the twisted cries of rage from a thousand angry neckbeards, lashing out in confusion and despair. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1494	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:23:00 - [36] - Quote devonus durga wrote: Yes heavy and scout respec, no medium respec. You chose your medium suit BC of its flavor, or ts opness. The flavor isn't changing, and if you just wanna switch to the new form suit since its discovered, or the one the number crunchers are thinking will be MST beastly, well sorry, but don't think you should get a respec. Yes. I chose Amarr Logi because of its "flavor" (role). I chose it in uprising 1.0, so I definitely didn't choose it because it was OP, which it was far from being in 1.0 How is the role of my suit being preserved? It won't be able to do the things I specced into it for in the beginning, and therefore, I deserve a respec. Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
TunRa NEW OMENS 402	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:25:00 - [37] - Quote Scar Scrilla wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Why. Huge new changes = respec. Vehicle users got it. Of course that's true. But who knows what other content is gonna come in the future? Ans what then, another respec and another and so forth? What's the point of an RPG then? Apart from that, I never had a respec cuz i'm only here since last August. I just can't see what's the point in respeccin, when all the vets say: "It's new Eden, live with the consequences..." Or smthg like that. Where's that tuff EvE/DUST attitude now? I dont regret anything I've skilled into-in fact i run one of the most laughed-at-dropsuit, the Commando and do kinda good with it. If some of u can't cope with the consequences of your decisions...well, i'd be happy for u if u got that respec though. I would skill into the same things I did before, except maybe for Sniper Rifle skills :) Let me illiterate this again, all heavy suits need a respec because we were forced to play with one suit for almost a year now. ONE SUIT. Does that like I had a choice of which suit I get to use? No. Thanks CCP Foxfour
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3797	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:26:00 - [38] - Quote Scar Scrilla wrote: How primitive can someone be to not accept other ppls opinions? I just said that I PERSONLLY don't want a respec cuz I'm good with my stuff. Just because u yourself think u gonna play better and not being raped on the battlefield like you are being now after the respec, good for u Atiim. I'll leave u that. U play like ** and post like a 7-year old. Go away and leave my posts alone, cuz as I could read in your comments in other threads, you are nothing but an impudent little ignorant **. P.S.: If I wanted to properly quote u btw, i would have done it, but tbh, you're not worth it at all :) Anyway, good day to you scrub You said no respecs. "Nuff said." A garbage opinion is a garbage opinion. Why should we accept it? I never get "raped" on the battlefield. The only time I ever preform poorly is when I'm fighting tanks. I play like $#!t? Maybe we should squad up sometime to confirm that eh? I would make a comment about how the logic you've used here is that of a 7 year old child, however I wish not to insult my own. Attempting to deny the playerbase something simply because of your personal content and resorting to ad-hominem as an attempt to make your argument (or lack thereof) credible, are all signs of ignorance. Hypocrite much? Please don't attempt to use trivial excuses to make up for your lack of understanding forum quotations. Next On To-Do List: Particle Cannons
devonus durga P.L.A.N. B 167	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:38:00 - [39] - Quote m twiggz wrote: devonus durga wrote: Yes heavy and scout respec, no medium respec. You chose your medium suit BC of its flavor, or ts opness. The flavor isn't changing, and if you just wanna switch to the new form suit since its discovered, or the one the number crunchers are thinking will be MST beastly, well sorry, but don't think you should get a respec. I'd agree with you here, except for if they change the slot layouts and racial bonuses on the Logistic and Assault suits. I picked my suit due to its bonuses and slot layout. I spent WEEKS of saving SP and crunching numbers to figure out the best suit for my play style. Not to mention I'm a hardcore Caldari loyalist and have always wanted to play as a scout. Why shouldn't I get the option to spec into my Caldari Scout suit now that its offered? Before this I was forced into only medium frames if I wanted to stick to my Caldari loyalty. PS; Yes my character is Minmatar. Yes I made a mistake when I created my character. No I didn't realize it until quite a few weeks of grinding SP. Yes I am a moron. Yes CCP refuses to change it for me. No I will not sleep on that dirty rusty Minmatar slave bed. Well I can understand this. Let me rephrase this a bit. I think only scouts and heavies should get immediate respec, due o their suit restrictions for so long, and so there there is enough players using the new suits to test and get feedback n them, and balance them as needed. This isn't needed for the medium suits, as there is enough of a play base on most of them to test them and balance them. The issue I see is 10m+ sp players getting respec and dumping all their points into the fotm suits, and creating a game imbalance for 3 months or so, and limiting testing and balancing on the suit changes So I say leave the medium suits go for now, to insure everyone doesn't just hop to the new form suits. Once all the new suits havebeen appropriately tested and balanced then iI think a global respec should be allowed. This will allow those who didn't run heavies/scouts BC of either pure racial motivation such as you, or they didn't like the flavor on the available selection, WITHOUT causing a game imbalance and limiting testing of the new suits/skills. Newbiest newberry to ever spawn a 10 page Debate
Leonid Tybalt Dark Knightz Corp. 167	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:39:00 - [40] - Quote Toby Flenderson wrote: GÇªok, so he doesn't want his, CCP. Please just respec the rest of us then Agreed. These "no respec"-proponents can just keep their opinions to themselves. If they don't want a respec then they can simply assign their skillpoints back in the same skills they had before the respec and let us who want a respec get it. That way, everybody will be happy. Except for those grinch-like ****-tards who get some sort of perverted satisfaction of ruining things for others.

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3801	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:39:00 - [41] - Quote devonus durga wrote: Yes heavy and scout respec, no medium respec. You chose your medium suit BC of its flavor, or ts opness. The flavor isn't changing, and if you just wanna switch to the new form suit since its discovered, or the one the number crunchers are thinking will be MST beastly, well sorry, but don't think you should get a respec. Only refunding some skills in a tree is unrealistic. Not everyone who uses Medium Frames is a FoTM chaser. Punishing an entire part of the playerbase for the actions of few is both garbage and unfair. Considering how you use Assault suits, that statement could easily come back to haunt you in the future. Next On To-Do List: Particle Cannons
Scar Scrilla Cobra Kommando 43	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:42:00 - [42] - Quote Atiim wrote: Scar Scrilla wrote: How primitive can someone be to not accept other ppls opinions? I just said that I PERSONLLY don't want a respec cuz I'm good with my stuff. Just because u yourself think u gonna play better and not being raped on the battlefield like you are being now after the respec, good for u Atiim. I'll leave u that. U play like ** and post like a 7-year old. Go away and leave my posts alone, cuz as I could read in your comments in other threads, you are nothing but an impudent little ignorant *. P.S.: If I wanted to properly quote u btw, i would have done it, but tbh, you're not worth it at all :) Anyway, good day to you scrub You said no respecs. "Nuff said." A garbage opinion is a garbage opinion. Why should we accept it? I never get "raped" on the battlefield. The only time I ever preform poorly is when I'm fighting tanks. I play like $#!t? Maybe we should squad up sometime to confirm that eh? I would make a comment about how the logic you've used here is that of a 7 year old child, however I wish not to insult my own. Attempting to deny the playerbase something simply because of your personal content and resorting to ad-hominem as an attempt to make your argument (or lack thereof) credible, are all signs of ignorance. Hypocrite much? Please don't attempt to use trivial excuses to make up for your lack of understanding forum quotations. Mmhh, I like trees. "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses"* Scar Scrilla - Proud Commando User & Cobra Kommander
Leonid Tybalt Dark Knightz Corp. 167	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:42:00 - [43] - Quote devonus durga wrote: m twiggz wrote: devonus durga wrote: Yes heavy and scout respec, no medium respec. You chose your medium suit BC of its flavor, or ts opness. The flavor isn't changing, and if you just wanna switch to the new form suit since its discovered, or the one the number crunchers are thinking will be MST beastly, well sorry, but don't think you should get a respec. I'd agree with you here, except for if they change the slot layouts and racial bonuses on the Logistic and Assault suits. I picked my suit due to its bonuses and slot layout. I spent WEEKS of saving SP and crunching numbers to figure out the best suit for my play style. Not to mention I'm a hardcore Caldari loyalist and have always wanted to play as a scout. Why shouldn't I get the option to spec into my Caldari Scout suit now that its offered? Before this I was forced into only medium frames if I wanted to stick to my Caldari loyalty. PS; Yes my character is Minmatar. Yes I made a mistake when I created my character. No I didn't realize it until quite a few weeks of grinding SP. Yes I am a moron. Yes CCP refuses to change it for me. No I will not sleep on that dirty rusty Minmatar slave bed. Well I can understand this. Let me rephrase this a bit. I think only scouts and heavies should get immediate respec, due o their suit restrictions for so long, and so there there is enough players using the new suits to test and get feedback n them, and balance them as needed. This isn't needed for the medium suits, as there is enough of a play base on most of them to test them and balance them. The issue I see is 10m+ sp players getting respec and dumping all their points into the fotm suits, and creating a game imbalance for 3 months or so, and limiting testing and balancing on the suit changes So I say leave the medium suits go for now, to insure everyone doesn't just hop to the new form suits. Once all the new suits havebeen appropriately tested and balanced then iI think a global respec should be allowed. This will allow those who didn't run heavies/scouts BC of either pure racial motivation such as you, or they didn't like the flavor on the available selection, WITHOUT causing a game imbalance and limiting testing of the new suits/skills. One problem: I bought Minmatar Logistics up to lvl 5 for the hacking bonus alone. Now it seems that it is the minmatar scout that will get this hacking bonus instead. But according to your idea, I wouldn't get to respec those skillpoints and instead be forced to grind up to lvl 5 in minmatar scout.
Scar Scrilla Cobra Kommando 43	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:43:00 - [44] - Quote Atiim wrote: devonus durga wrote: Yes heavy and scout respec, no medium respec. You chose your medium suit BC of its flavor, or ts opness. The flavor isn't changing, and if you just wanna switch to the new form suit since its discovered, or the one the number crunchers are thinking will be MST beastly, well sorry, but don't think you should get a respec. Only refunding some skills in a tree is unrealistic. Not everyone who uses Medium Frames is a FoTM chaser. Punishing an entire part of the playerbase for the actions of few is both garbage and unfair. Considering how you use Assault suits, that statement could easily come back to haunt you in the future. Unrealistic, like the refund for vehicles? Again, it's just a proof of your lack of analytic thinking I guess. Plz go away "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses" Scar Scrilla - Proud Commando User & Cobra Kommander
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 1016	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:46:00 - [45] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: One problem: I bought Minmatar Logistics up to lvl 5 for the hacking bonus alone. Now it seems that it is the minmatar scout that will get this hacking bonus instead. But according to your idea, I wouldn't get to respec those skillpoints and instead be forced to grind up to lvl 5 in minmatar scout. No one forces you to do anything.
OZAROW Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 1280	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:46:00 - [46] - Quote I would like to change some things in my sp tree, but I don't need too, I personally think every damn logi scrub that got one just to use 4 damage mods an a scr, RR should rott with them instead of be able to run that suit , rack up kills an points then switch to something new and broken! SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
devonus durga P.L.A.N. B 167	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:47:00 - [47] - Quote For a few months yes, if you want scout 5 that soon sure grind it out. But if you don't want yourself running against an army of form suits, like say proto heavy gallentes with rail rifles (considering current op weapon, projected ehp titan) And if you had enough sp to just dump into a suit solely for its shaking bonus, I'm sure you have a few suits that you can run in the mean time that will still perform in the role you wanted when you dumped points into it. Newbiest newberry to ever spawn a 10 page Debate
Kierkegaard Soren Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 137	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:49:00 - [48] - Quote I didnt want to be an Amarr commando, but I did want the commando role so I skilled into the only suit available at the time. I'll turn proto by the end of this week, When the new racial suits come, I'd very much like to transfer my hard earned sp into the suit that I would have skilled into had it been available from the outset. I do not understand how this request will negatively impact mine or anyone else's enjoyment of the game. More pertinently, to have to build up the 2mil sp from scratch for the second racial suit would basically kill my will to play dust completely, I'd rather invest the time and so into spilling into cool stuff I actually need to have fun, like modules and such. Weapon respecs are on shakier ground. I'd love them because as a commando I had to learn from scratch what every gun could do, so my so investment is all over the place. I'd love to be able to recast it all into my two preferred choices that tie into my racial suit bonus. It'd feel like I was finally getting the build I'd been working for all along. But I can see why others would take issue with this. Assaults, logis, sentinels and scouts are all getting major re-works, with many of the changes redigpfining the roles and capabilities of those suits -the logis in particular- and to expect people to play in suits that. O longer function in the manner in which they wanted them to is pretty harsh. Wipe the slate clean, for one last time. 1.8 is shaping up to be THE infantry patch, with almost every suit class receiving major attention and numerous changes. Refind the sp and let everyone build into what they want to have fun in the most and be done with it. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.
OZAROW Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 1280	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:52:00 - [49] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: devonus durga wrote: m twiggz wrote: devonus durga wrote: Yes heavy and scout respec, no medium respec. You chose your medium suit BC of its flavor, or ts opness. The flavor isn't changing, and if you just wanna switch to the new form suit since its discovered, or the one the number crunchers are thinking will be MST beastly, well sorry, but don't think you should get a respec. I'd agree with you here, except for if they change the slot layouts and racial bonuses on the Logistic and Assault suits. I picked my suit due to its bonuses and slot layout. I spent WEEKS of saving SP and crunching numbers to figure out the best suit for my play style. Not to mention I'm a hardcore Caldari loyalist and have always wanted to play as a scout. Why shouldn't I get the option to spec into my Caldari Scout suit now that its offered? Before this I was forced into only medium frames if I wanted to stick to my Caldari loyalty. PS; Yes my character is Minmatar. Yes I made a mistake when I created my character. No I didn't realize it until quite a few weeks of grinding SP. Yes I am a moron. Yes CCP refuses to change it for me. No I will not sleep on that dirty rusty Minmatar slave bed. Well I can understand this. Let me rephrase this a bit. I think only scouts and heavies should get immediate respec, due o their suit restrictions for so long, and so there there is enough players using the new suits to test and get feedback n them, and balance them as needed. This isn't needed for the medium suits, as there is enough of a play base on most of them to test them and balance them. The issue I see is 10m+ sp players getting respec and dumping all their points into the fotm suits, and creating a game imbalance for 3 months or so, and limiting testing and balancing on the suit changes So I say leave the medium suits go for now, to insure everyone doesn't just hop to the new form suits. Once all the new suits havebeen appropriately tested and balanced then iI think a global respec should be allowed. This will allow those who didn't run heavies/scouts BC of either pure racial motivation such as you, or they didn't like the flavor on the available selection, WITHOUT causing a game imbalance and limiting testing of the new suits/skills. One problem: I bought Minmatar Logistics up to lvl 5 for the hacking bonus alone. Now it seems that it is the minmatar scout that will get this hacking bonus instead. But according to your idea, I wouldn't get to respec those skillpoints and instead be forced to grind up to lvl 5 in minmatar scout. You should be forced too, I had min scout when it was uprising fast an awesome! I had to run it for months after the stamina, strafe, huge hit boxes, armor buffs, an you get to just switch to it when the suits finally good?!!! FFFFFAAAAAAKTHATTTTTT! Save up like everyone Else an deal with it! SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
ResistanceGTA Valor Tactical Operations Immortal Coalition of New-Eden 104	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:55:00 - [50] - Quote OZAROW wrote: I would like to change some things in my sp tree, but I don't need too, I personally think every damn logi scrub that got one just to use 4 damage mods an a scr, RR should rott with them instead of be able to run that suit , rack up kills an points then switch to something new and broken! And Logi's that spec'd to be Logi's, what about them? Some of us had not Caldari Logi's when Uprising hit, some of us used them to carry better equipment, to hack in a split second, or to still have a sidearm. Some people used their suits with their bonuses in mind, not to stack damage mods with 'OP' weapons, which I even knew many people with Cal Logi because they were role playing Caldari. Note: If you've played against me, I use the Rail Rifle a lot, and yes, it has been deemed OP. I ran around with a Mass Driver and an ASCR a lot before 1.7, I run with all Light weapons, cause I have Prof. 1-5 on everything but the AR, so please don't throe that in my face.

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3801	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:57:00 - [51] - Quote Scar Scrilla wrote: Unrealistic, like the refund for vehicles? Again, it's just a proof of your lack of analytic thinking I guess. Plz go away Oh, so the troll speaks once more it seems. The refund for vehicles refunded every skill in their respective Skill Tree (Vehicle Command, Vehicle Upgrades, & Turret Operation). They didn't simply refund the Caldari LAV skill and not the Gallente LAV skill, which is similar to what devonus is suggesting. Go home troll. Next On To-Do List: Particle Cannons
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1497	Posted - 2014.01.22 14:57:00 - [52] - Quote Scar Scrilla wrote: Atiim wrote: devonus durga wrote: Yes heavy and scout respec, no medium respec. You chose your medium suit BC of its flavor, or ts opness. The flavor isn't changing, and if you just wanna switch to the new form suit since its discovered, or the one the number crunchers are thinking will be MST beastly, well sorry, but don't think you should get a respec. Only refunding some skills in a tree is unrealistic. Not everyone who uses Medium Frames is a FoTM chaser. Punishing an entire part of the playerbase for the actions of few is both garbage and unfair. Considering how you use Assault suits, that statement could easily come back to haunt you in the future. Unrealistic, like the refund for vehicles? Again, it's just a proof of your lack of analytic thinking I guess. Plz go away They refunded all skills in the vehicle skill trees. So, yes, it is unrealistic. Your motives are quite clear. They way you converse here on the forums tell a lot about your character. "I'm happy because my suit is getting a buff, but everyone else isn't happy. [ If they don't get a skill refund, I can stomp them for weeks before they scrounge together enough SP to get back on their feet.] I'll go to the forums to see if I can make this happen!" Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1498	Posted - 2014.01.22 15:03:00 - [53] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: devonus durga wrote: m twiggz wrote: devonus durga wrote: Yes heavy and scout respec, no medium respec. You chose your medium suit BC of its flavor, or ts opness. The flavor isn't changing, and if you just wanna switch to the new form suit since its discovered, or the one the number crunchers are thinking will be MST beastly, well sorry, but don't think you should get a respec. I'd agree with you here, except for if they change the slot layouts and racial bonuses on the Logistic and Assault suits. I picked my suit due to its bonuses and slot layout. I spent WEEKS of saving SP and crunching numbers to figure out the best suit for my play style. Not to mention I'm a hardcore Caldari loyalist and have always wanted to play as a scout. Why shouldn't I get the option to spec into my Caldari Scout suit now that its offered? Before this I was forced into only medium frames if I wanted to stick to my Caldari loyalty. PS; Yes my character is Minmatar. Yes I made a mistake when I created my character. No I didn't realize it until quite a few weeks of grinding SP. Yes I am a moron. Yes CCP refuses to change it for me. No I will not sleep on that dirty rusty Minmatar slave bed. Well I can understand this. Let me rephrase this a bit. I think only scouts and heavies should get immediate respec, due o their suit restrictions for so long, and so there there is enough players using the new suits to test and get feedback n them, and balance them as needed. This isn't needed for the medium suits, as there is enough of a play base on most of them to test them and balance them. The issue I see is 10m+ sp players getting respec and dumping all their points into the fotm suits, and creating a game imbalance for 3 months or so, and limiting testing and balancing on the suit changes So I say leave the medium suits go for now, to insure everyone doesn't just hop to the new form suits. Once all the new suits havebeen appropriately tested and balanced then iI think a global respec should be allowed. This will allow those who didn't run heavies/scouts BC of either pure racial motivation such as you, or they didn't like the flavor on the available selection, WITHOUT causing a game imbalance and limiting testing of the new suits/skills. One problem: I bought Minmatar Logistics up to lvl 5 for the hacking bonus alone. Now it seems that it is the minmatar scout that will get this hacking bonus instead. But according to your idea, I wouldn't get to respec those skillpoints and instead be forced to grind up to lvl 5 in minmatar scout. You should be forced too, I had min scout when it was uprising fast an awesome! I had to run it for months after the stamina, strafe, huge hit boxes, armor buffs, an you get to just switch to it when the suits finally good?!!! FFFFFAAAAAAKTHATTTTTT! Save up like everyone Else an deal with it! Bitterness begets Bitterness. Break the cycle... Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 1016	Posted - 2014.01.22 15:06:00 - [54] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Bitterness begets Bitterness. Break the cycle... Respecs begets Respecs. Break the cycle...
devonus durga P.L.A.N. B 167	Posted - 2014.01.22 15:07:00 - [55] - Quote Oh I know it could haunt me, and I would deal with it. I'm worried about the 1/2 the population that will switch to fotm suits, imbalance things, and make balancing all the suits harder n the long run. And they will, just look at the kill board and see what all the kills come from. Rails and combat rifles. And that was WITHOUT a respec. The imbalance that will result from a full suit respec with so many people crunching numbers? So many corps and players that have, and will jump n the bandwagon? Yes it sucks that half the player base may very well not be form scrubs, and because of that, they can deal with what happens to them, it will suck for me, plenty of others, but it will not break the game. It will give CCP time to balance the suits and observe how they work, and allow it to be done faster. Perhaps I'm a pessimist, but I loathe to see what happens if everyone gets respec before ***** balanced. Newbiest newberry to ever spawn a 10 page Debate
Scar Scrilla Cobra Kommando 43	Posted - 2014.01.22 15:08:00 - [56] - Quote Atiim wrote: Scar Scrilla wrote: Unrealistic, like the refund for vehicles? Again, it's just a proof of your lack of analytic thinking I guess. Plz go away Oh, so the troll speaks once more it seems. The refund for vehicles refunded every skill in their respective Skill Tree (Vehicle Command, Vehicle Upgrades, & Turret Operation). They didn't simply refund the Caldari LAV skill and not the Gallente LAV skill, which is similar to what devonus is suggesting. Go home troll. I still like trees. What do u like? "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses" Scar Scrilla - Proud Commando User & Cobra Kommander
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1498	Posted - 2014.01.22 15:15:00 - [57] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Bitterness begets Bitterness. Break the cycle... Respecs begets Respecs. Break the cycle... I would rather have skill refunds than months of forum crying(myself include, TBH) and even more people leaving the slowly shrinking player base. Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 896	Posted - 2014.01.22 15:26:00 - [58] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Op im too lasy to spend 5 minutes reselecting everything, thats littary the OP arguments. Also based on past precedents people have been forced into the amarr heavy due to no other choice so at the very minimum scouts and heavys need refunds It's been 8 month's..... At some point the Amarr heavy was the only heavy content in the game... and CCP set their bar to high... CCP DIdn't "Owe" anyone the few racial suits.... but it would be nice to have them into the game and like has been asking since uprising launch... and the patch notes of the suits then... specialized bonuses that fit the role instead of what we got. Does it suck that it took 8 months to get this content? yes... does it make the skills that have been part of DUST 514 Launch useless? and everyone should get to trade those in for a new pair of shoes? Meh... Everyone should progress naturally into the new content just like the RR, and the CR, two racial variants of a gun missing... and many more updates of racial parity in the future by the sounds of CCP. If they delete or alter tree's, change multiplyers... Remove items from the game? then they might have to respec skills back to a certain point... But not because new content comes out that everyone feels they have been "owed" even though That IS and Has been DUST 514. Then we will get 1.8 and gasp new content
devonus durga P.L.A.N. B 167	Posted - 2014.01.22 15:27:00 - [59] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Rasatsu wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Bitterness begets Bitterness. Break the cycle... Respecs begets Respecs. Break the cycle... I would rather have skill refunds than months of forum crying(myself include, TBH) and even more people leaving the slowly shrinking player base. I would prefer everyone be n even footing for awhile then just encouraging further stomps. The player base is stagnant, and giving people access to more opness while nooblets come in with no clue wtf. Going o, or knowing that in order to compete they need to run (insert fotm op build) will just keep it stagnant. The game isn't growing, and without growing it will die. I understand CCP is huge on loyalty and catering to vets, and I kinda respect that, even as a newberry. But vets don't use aur, they got what they wanted, and will have more of what they want with a full respec before balancing (and the cry for anther respec when shot is balanced). We may lose some vets, but a full respec will just lead to an even more hostile npe, and that might very well put the nails in the coffin. Not granting a respec will force vets to either use the suits the do have, or spend money to try the ones they don't have sp in to use. It will also mean less broken suits running around so that new players might stick, and then they two will spend our. Economicly, and player base speaking, a full respec will just hurt the game, and none of us want that, even if it does mean we get stuck with suits we don't want for a little while. Newbiest newberry to ever spawn a 10 page Debate
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2931	Posted - 2014.01.22 15:38:00 - [60] - Quote Scar Scrilla wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Very well, no respec for you. I'm good with my stuff. Sorry you are not... I'm good with my stuff too. Sadly 1.8 means I won't get to keep it. So respec. No.



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