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knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.22 15:40:00 -
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Scar Scrilla wrote:'nuff said, thanks and good day please back up your assertion with facts, logical, ethical, or emotional, support.
" 'nuff " hasn't been said we don't understand why your position is where it is and as such you have failed in making your assertion. I would make a counter point but there is no point to counter.
thus my counter to your assertion is "you are wrong".
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout.
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steadyhand amarr
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.22 15:45:00 -
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Just as one point if people skill into FTOm suit and it gets nuffed to hell then tough thats your own dam fault :-P you skill into what u enjoy not silly subject to change bounses.
The current argument is down to there was absolutely no choice in the matter u wanted yo play heavy amarr it was. Wepones like knives and pistols im iffy on but because they are introduceing them slowly everyone on the same level as everyone has to spend time skilling into them as its bad new way of shooting someone so u were not forced to use somthing else to fullfill a role that didnt exists.
Thats really hard to explain
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.22 16:07:00 -
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Scar Scrilla wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Very well, no respec for you. I'm good with my stuff. Sorry you are not...
You're good with your stuff NOW.
Tank 514.
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Jadd Hatchen
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.01.22 16:10:00 -
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Scar Scrilla wrote:'nuff said, thanks and good day
Please elaborate with reason for and against. i started a post about this sort of thing here:
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Scar Scrilla
Cobra Kommando
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Posted - 2014.01.22 16:22:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:Scar Scrilla wrote:'nuff said, thanks and good day please back up your assertion with facts, logical, ethical, or emotional, support. " 'nuff " hasn't been said we don't understand why your position is where it is and as such you have failed in making your assertion. I would make a counter point but there is no point to counter. thus my counter to your assertion is " you are wrong".
I hope u like trees too
"Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses"
Scar Scrilla - Proud Commando User & Cobra Kommander
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Scar Scrilla
Cobra Kommando
44
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Posted - 2014.01.22 16:23:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Scar Scrilla wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Very well, no respec for you. I'm good with my stuff. Sorry you are not... You're good with your stuff NOW.
And will be ever after...
"Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses"
Scar Scrilla - Proud Commando User & Cobra Kommander
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noob cavman
Tickle My Null-Sac
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Posted - 2014.01.22 16:32:00 -
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Logically speaking as dropsuit bonuses are being changed the dropsuit tree should be refunded. Example the min logi aka the speedy hacker is likely to be changed to the golden repper . Best example of justice and light giver of fatties. Many skilled into the min logi for that bonus which is now likely being moved to the min scout. now here lies another problem. Building a scout fit is very different to the skills used by the logi. You need points in dampers, range extension, regulaters, different weapons, a side arm, remotes and my favourite weapon da knives![Pirate](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_pirate.png)
alot of the basic core skills will cross over but your looking at easy 4-6 million wasted sp if your entire play style revolved around speed hacking and you wish to continue that role.
example 2 the heavy. Many of our larger friends didn't want the amarr suit but had to spec into it anyway for a suit to use. Now that other heavies are around the corner entire playstyles are being changed going from the amarr suit to the cal heavy suit. From Armor tanking to shield tanking. Two veeeeeeerrrrry different things. But that's logic speaking which can't hold a candle to nuff said ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
Would be a caveman but whisky and jolly forbidding me to get it changed :_;
British ninja cowboy
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.22 16:35:00 -
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Scar Scrilla wrote:knight of 6 wrote:Scar Scrilla wrote:'nuff said, thanks and good day please back up your assertion with facts, logical, ethical, or emotional, support. " 'nuff " hasn't been said we don't understand why your position is where it is and as such you have failed in making your assertion. I would make a counter point but there is no point to counter. thus my counter to your assertion is " you are wrong". I hope u like trees too that's it I'm sold. no respecs ever or sp refunds in a capacity, this brilliant explanation has convinced me.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout.
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Scar Scrilla
Cobra Kommando
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Posted - 2014.01.22 16:47:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:Scar Scrilla wrote:knight of 6 wrote:Scar Scrilla wrote:'nuff said, thanks and good day please back up your assertion with facts, logical, ethical, or emotional, support. " 'nuff " hasn't been said we don't understand why your position is where it is and as such you have failed in making your assertion. I would make a counter point but there is no point to counter. thus my counter to your assertion is " you are wrong". I hope u like trees too that's it I'm sold. no respecs ever or sp refunds in a capacity, this brilliant explanation has convinced me.
Wasn't that hard, was it?
"Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses"
Scar Scrilla - Proud Commando User & Cobra Kommander
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Scar Scrilla
Cobra Kommando
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Posted - 2014.01.22 16:52:00 -
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Respec or not, I hope everybody is happy after 1.8
And if it's for the good of this game, I hope CCP will make an elaborate decision based on the communities feedback. ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png)
Ave!
"Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses"
Scar Scrilla - Proud Commando User & Cobra Kommander
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.01.22 17:53:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:Oh I know it could haunt me, and I would deal with it.
I'm worried about the 1/2 the population that will switch to fotm suits, imbalance things, and make balancing all the suits harder n the long run.
And they will, just look at the kill board and see what all the kills come from. Rails and combat rifles. And that was WITHOUT a respec. The imbalance that will result from a full suit respec with so many people crunching numbers? So many corps and players that have, and will jump n the bandwagon?
Yes it sucks that half the player base may very well not be form scrubs, and because of that, they can deal with what happens to them, it will suck for me, plenty of others, but it will not break the game. It will give CCP time to balance the suits and observe how they work, and allow it to be done faster. Perhaps I'm a pessimist, but I loathe to see what happens if everyone gets respec before ***** balanced. Devonus, do you know what an Omega Booster is?
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D3m0n89
FACTION WARFARE ARMY
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Posted - 2014.01.22 19:05:00 -
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YES to RESPEC! |
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:19:00 -
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OP's basically gloating because his suit got buffed.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2014.01.23 13:15:00 -
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oops. Wrong thread. fucken touchscreen.
Happily printing ISK with permahardeners and MLT blasters.
Just let me get a couple mil more before nerf, CCP!
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m twiggz
Pradox One Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.01.23 13:17:00 -
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This thread still exists? I thought we embarrassed the OP enough yesterday. Let this thread die so the OP can regain some dignity. |
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.23 13:20:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:Yes heavy and scout respec, no medium respec.
You chose your medium suit BC of its flavor, or ts opness. The flavor isn't changing, and if you just wanna switch to the new form suit since its discovered, or the one the number crunchers are thinking will be MST beastly, well sorry, but don't think you should get a respec. **** off.
Medium suits are being changed too.
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Scar Scrilla
Cobra Kommando
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Posted - 2014.01.23 14:26:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:This thread still exists? I thought we embarrassed the OP enough yesterday. Let this thread die so the OP can regain some dignity.
You are nothing but emberassing yourself by posting in this thread again. Armer Trottel :)
Now get back to the hole u crouched out of , will you?
"Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses"
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Scar Scrilla
Cobra Kommando
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Posted - 2014.01.23 14:27:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:OP's basically gloating because his suit got buffed.
Just no. Gusch bua.
"Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses"
Scar Scrilla - Proud Commando User & Cobra Kommander
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Scar Scrilla
Cobra Kommando
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Posted - 2014.01.23 14:29:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:oops. Wrong thread. fucken touchscreen.
A hard task to post on forums for some it seems...
"Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses"
Scar Scrilla - Proud Commando User & Cobra Kommander
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m twiggz
Pradox One Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.01.23 14:37:00 -
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Scar Scrilla wrote:m twiggz wrote:This thread still exists? I thought we embarrassed the OP enough yesterday. Let this thread die so the OP can regain some dignity. You are nothing but emberassing yourself by posting in this thread again. Armer Trottel :) Now get back to the hole u crouched out of , will you? I wasn't trolling you, friend. You blatantly ignored all of the valid arguments in your own thread to troll other individuals. I come from under a bridge, not out of a hole. Since you know, trolls live under bridges, not in holes. |
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.23 14:39:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:Scar Scrilla wrote:m twiggz wrote:This thread still exists? I thought we embarrassed the OP enough yesterday. Let this thread die so the OP can regain some dignity. You are nothing but emberassing yourself by posting in this thread again. Armer Trottel :) Now get back to the hole u crouched out of , will you? I wasn't trolling you, friend. You blatantly ignored all of the valid arguments in your own thread to troll other individuals. I come from under a bridge, not out of a hole. Since you know, trolls live under bridges, not in holes.
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FEAR AndHATE
WarRavens Auxiliaries League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.01.23 14:40:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:Why.
Huge new changes = respec.
Vehicle users got it. Vehicle users got it because the tree was completely changed, not because the stats were changed.
In case ya did not notice, the whole suit and equipment trees changed, respecs are in order and very necessary. think of it this way, you will be able to get out of any stagnate line you may have possibly specced into, and increase any line you may already have. It is a win win situation for all. But if you are "perfect" and do not choose to respec, then don't. Not being a jerk here or anything, but I feel we should be able to respec at any time, not to keep up with FOTM but to be able to play our character any way we like. We may need to fill a spot for PC and may need an additional assault or logi and the regular may not be able to make it. Some may have enough SP to already be able to play a multi role, but most do not. |
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m twiggz
Pradox One Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:38:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:m twiggz wrote:Scar Scrilla wrote:m twiggz wrote:This thread still exists? I thought we embarrassed the OP enough yesterday. Let this thread die so the OP can regain some dignity. You are nothing but emberassing yourself by posting in this thread again. Armer Trottel :) Now get back to the hole u crouched out of , will you? I wasn't trolling you, friend. You blatantly ignored all of the valid arguments in your own thread to troll other individuals. I come from under a bridge, not out of a hole. Since you know, trolls live under bridges, not in holes. Don't lie I know where you live!!! http://thetrollhole.com/sitebuilder/images/IMG_4905-832x588.jpg <--------- Favorite. Forum. Post. EVER. ![Bear](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_bear.png) |
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.01.23 23:24:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:
Or 'I skilled into the Minmatar Logistics for the hacking bonus which has been removed'?
Right in the feels that one. Now a bonus to counter act a nerf.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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