Im just hoping its people taking their sweet time to read all of it XD

This truly interests me...


BTW


Shush BOJO....

Caldari scout:

Combat rifle

4x shield extender
2x shield regulator

cloak
compact hive


Amarr scout:

Combat rifle

2x damage mod
4x plate

cloak
allotek hive

Gallente scout:

Combat rifle

2x damage mod
2x plate 1x repper 1x range amp

cloak
nanohive

Minmatar scout:

Combat rifle
Ishukone nova knives (accept no substitute)

3x shield extender
2x kincat
1x damp/cardiac regulator

Of all of these. The minmatar is the only one that makes sense to me.The Gallente, more or less...
Why not just use Med frames for the Caldari tanked and Amarr Tanked?

Because of the CLOAK + NANO?

Yes.
The Caldari scout is, imo, superior to the Calassault unless the Calassault gets a buff due to the massive regen potential. It can also evade scans, has a decent onboard passive scanner, and moves quickly in addition to the cloak. All of these are great things.

Again, the Amarr one is faster than an Amarr assault, evades scans, has a cloak, etc. The idea is to ghost in, put down hives, kill everything, and ghost out to restock again. Strafing in rep hives is powerful stuff - with a scout strafe it will be even better.

The Gallente one is mostly a combat one, but capitalising on the in-built stuff a little more.

I want to know whats what SCOUTS used in UPRISING pre 1.8.
Scouts are changing.
We are getting Buffs and Cloaks.
We will get a lot of new people playing as scouts, but the original scouts will probably always be stronger.

Now to the Thread.
I want to know 2 things:
GÖª Best / Prefered Scout fit Pre 1.8 and a small explanation on it
GÖª Scout suit you will use in 1.8 And why

I'll start:

DISCLAIMER: Please DO NOT LAUGH to hard at me, i know this is not a ''Meta'' Fitting designed for combat , but it works and its my best scout suit u.u
I have NEVER, told anyone about this suit until now.Specially because soon the World of scouts will change forever....

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Minmatar M/1 Series Scout
GÖª 2 ADV Precision Enhancers
GÖª 1 Complex Profile Dampener
GÖª 1 Range Amplifier (think its ENH too)
GÖª ''MAIN WEAPON'' Sidearm Advanced Assault Scrambler Pistol
GÖª ''BACKUP WEAPON'' Light weapon EXO-5 MD or Assault Combat Rifle
GÖª Locus grenades or Flux
GÖª Compact nanohives

Its no secret to my friends i just LOVE E-War. Sadly i was convinced speed tanking combat scout was the way to go when the first SP reset came,and i chose Minmatar Scout over Gallente. Never the less this did not stop me.
At first i was happy using Active scanners on all my Med frames , specially logis and my Amarr + SCR combination. But then i noticed something while I was being scanned. There IS , something no Med frame can EVER take away from a scout.Doesnt matter the slots. The Combination of Speed and E-War. a Med frame can only imitate one of these at the time but not BOTH at the time. With the MOST Passive Scan Range, Best Scan Precision and best profile dampening skills the scouts ARE unparalleled in both passive scanning and avoiding scans.

'' why bother if A.Scanners are accessible, affordable and have overall better preformance than passive scanning?''
The answer is simple. When you Activley scan someone, they get a message that says:
''YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED'' and a non readable part: '' REDS INCOMING''
Passive scanning DOES NOT ALERT your enemies. This in combination to Profile dampening are what scouts are ABOUT!
I cannot even begin to count all the ''tanked scouts'' ive seen.Running aroudn with numbers as high as 700HP! WTH! And still,when i passive scan them feel sorry for them,because their HP,Shotgun and Speed wont help them if they cant find me and i know where they are all the time....
Overall, even with 190HP.... My Best games have been with this suits, my highest score , was with this suit in the Labs.
75-6

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CALDARI SCOUT in 1.8:

AND ...this is why my first suit in 1.8 will be the Caldari Scout.
I can use 2 ENH/CX Precision enhancers at proto level, plus 2 complex shield extenders. Profile Dampener (Cx if possible) and Complex Range amplifier. The weapons can be STD level for all i care. All these modules PLUS the inherent bonus of the caldari scout (+25% Scan precision and 25% Profile dampening) will make my caldari scout one of the most powerful E-war units in Dust. Finally ,to put the cherry on top, i would still have around 380 shields and 87 armor....AND a Cloaking device plus (if possible) R/E.....

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Why do i share the loadout i have been thinking for since i read the patch notes?
I want to encourage scouts, to BE scouts in 1.8.
100-200 more HP wont make a difference when you total EHP is below 400. we all know this.Then why keep pushing towards HP when thats is NOT our role, plus not the role we want?
Give E-War a try.
Give Speed tanking another try.
Give Melee another try.
Those modules are not as useless as they look like....

Believe me .
MOST people say Active scanners are a CRUTCH. Hell, i said this for a long time...

But after you see your enemies in your radar ALL the time, see then through the walls (the red triangle thingieh) and they dont even KNOW you are seeing them...well...there is just NO turning back....
Passive scanning is MY Crutch....

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And you?
What do you scout with?
What will you scout with...?

DISCLAIMER: Please DO NOT LAUGH to hard at me, but it works and its my best scout suit u.u
I have NEVER, told anyone about this suit until now.

Ok i think i understand. You are using Scout suits as light assault with slight E-war advantages.
Makes sense. And its all and all, what most people will probably do too.

But you do know a Gallente Logi will be able to scan you 90% of the times if you dont run Dampners or run low level dampeners?
You do know that GAllente and Caldari scanning abilities are almost useles vs high level players unless reinforced with modules right?

Im sure you do.

Well thanks for sharing :3

Damn I only have a 1.8 fitting.....VIVA LE AMARR SCOUT!

My pub suit. Almost always.

'Valor' Scout
Combat Rifle
Adv. Knives
Complex Shield Extender
Basic Armor Plate
Basic Armor Rep
Flux Grenade
REs


I fit BPOs where I have room, so the plate and repper.
160 shield
256 armor

I too run a passive scanning scoutt, great fun. I prefer a shotgun but that's me.

I love the Caldari scout, it totally fits my style. However, if Active Scanners are not changed the bonus will be lackluster. Scanners will be able to spin scan further with much larger area and relay that to the squad. Plus they can perma scan almost as well as passive scans. Only drawback to using Active Scanning is alerting the enemy and time actually scanning.

If they are not changing them it's probably best to run Gal Scout with a scanner...save all those mods.

Maybe Minnie with a scanner.

I have a feeling I missed this but, did ccp confirm the removal of scout sidearm slots?

I was really hoping they just left it and added a second equipment slot.....

@ OP
No idea what I'll run down the road, but for now I run Gallente.
Honestly can't say I favor one particular loadout over another.

For lows, I alternate between CardRegs, KinCats, Dampeners, Plates, Armor Rep, and Range Extenders.
For highs, I tend to stick to shields, but occasionally running a Damage Amp.

As far as e-War goes, Range Extenders can come in handy.
Can't say the same for Precision Enhancers; just my two cents.

Proto Amarr Scout

1x Complex Shield Extender

Carthum Assault Scrambler Rifle
Carthum Assault Scrambler Pistol

1x Complex Plate
1x Complex Kincat
1x Complex Repairer
1x Complex Range Amplifier

RE's
Cloak

I thought so, just couldn't remember - I'd throw a complex precision enhancer in the other high.

because you are preying on low level scouts?

Nope, because people are to cheap to use them.
Most people in dragonfly's are actually high level players X)
They dont realize that the 25% profile damp on scouts does not apply to BPO sometimes....
Run around in 40db


BTW , why the late hostility? XD

Is the dragonfly a lightframe BPO or scout BPO because skinweave used to be a scout BPO but then it became a lightframe BPO. I actually do believe that if you hit Variations on a scout G-I the dragonfly comes up so it should apply.

Scout g-1series
2x complex damage mods
Exile
ScP
flux grenade
Complex Reactive Plate
enhanced armor repper

these are my rapin' shoes.

To MY understanding=
Dragonfly (same as the Dragonfly/Covenant assault/scouts) dont get bonus since they require no SP to be used.
The 'Valor' Scout on the other side does get the Profile dampening bonus.

Again, after 1.8 all scouts will have default DB at 35 so they will be pretty hard to scan, making them better.

Well it depends bro.
Look at it this way.

GÖªScouts will have 35db
GÖªThe caldari and Gallente will have up to 25% Profile dampening as per their bonus
GÖªWith a cx Profile dampnener ,thats +25% to Profile dampening
GÖª+10% PASSIVE Profile dampening from as bonus to getting to Cx Profile dampening....

ITS A LOT of dampening. If my calculations are correct, its around 14db.Meaning it would take a Gal logi with Proto Flux active scanner to scan me.
Besides that, completely invisible.....