I somewhat disagree on the rail tank. Needs falloff.

Also being able to two shot any other tank is probably frustrating to the people I shoot and I dont even have prototype rails or complex damage mods (only basic)

Vehicles aren't going proto.... Or at least that what the DEVS have implied as of late.

They're probably getting hull variants with different bonuses, like the different scout classes get different bonuses etc..
Possibly things like, an extra slot for sacrificing 500 shield and 500 armor... or something like that.
Or a variety that has faster acceleration... or reload speed for a single type of weapon system. Variants, not Protos.

Sorry that you have such a hard time with tanks. Maybe you need to get better?

Sorry that you have such a hard time with tanks. Maybe you need to get better?

While I wont say that tanks are perfectly balanced because they are not quite there yet lets be honest, dont worry about KING CHECKMATE caps lock man.

He sent me a mail the other day moaning I took a proto scanner into a public match. Bare in mind it was on a standard suit frame and I was going up against multiple proto users in full proto gear.
But NO! How dare I use a proto piece of equipment....

CCP did remove the last higher tier HAVs and have given no sign they will be bringing them directly back. Yet the Super-HAV dream lives on.

Although I can totally see a variant being a prototype through SP cost.

If that was not aimed at me than I do honestly apologise - however you sent the mail to ME with a title saying 'how sad' and then moaned I used a proto scanner!

The only scanner I used was the 200m range one. People were in proto suits with proto weapons, not saying you were but others on your team were. Damn right I am going to try and even the odds.

why would we need ADV and PRO tanks? Basic level tanks are rampant in every game mode. They are devastating and hard for infantry to deal with. Better tanks are the last thing Dust needs.

Yep 6 tanks in ambush going pew pew pew trololololololol is really balanced.

There is currently no effective counter in the game to beat a 6 man squad of tanks in ambush.

Sorry gentlemen but boosting up prices is not balance.

Yep 6 tanks in ambush going pew pew pew trololololololol is really balanced.

There is currently no effective counter in the game to beat a 6 man squad of tanks in ambush.

Sorry gentlemen but boosting up prices is not balance.

If you can two shot enemy tanks, even with damage mods, those enemy tanks are s**t fit end of story. If people are not willing to fit there tank with some 'TANK' then let them die so fast.

Its the same story with dropsuits being killed in a few shots from things like scrambler rifles, RR`s and CR`s....

yes they are great RIGHT NOW IN PUBS, but 2 shotting STD tanks with a railgun actually makes sense, its only LVL1.
ADV tank will get a 4th high/low
PRO will get 5th full high/low and extra high/low.
sounds very OP but remember these tanks will be crazy expensive, hopefully 8-10 million a pop. only for pc and fw.
you wouldn't see most guys calling in suyra's and vayu's in pubs in 1.7 yes? it was too risky.

Missile tanks - OMG! I just unlocked these as the skill requirements are the highest. THESE ARE BORDERLINE BROKEN!

I somewhat disagree on the rail tank. Needs falloff.

Also being able to two shot any other tank is probably frustrating to the people I shoot and I dont even have prototype rails or complex damage mods (only basic)

I'm serious. After starting up another alt back in 1.7 and playing him exclusively on tanks I can say that these things are balanced as hell.

I started out in Militia tanks and would lose enough tanks that I would have to run free suits for a few matches to get enough ISK for a few more tanks. I was losing 2 to 3 per match. After I got good enough i would lose a militia tank once every other match on average running rail tanks. Against infantry I wouldn't get THAT many kills. I would go 5/0 or 7/2 for example. I would get shot up by other rail tanks or sometimes a skilled blaster tank every so often but a rail tank isn't that effective against infantry. A/V would sometimes kill me. Swarms would only if they were coordinated (I think they must be poor versus shield tanks) but Forges make me run most of the time. A/V nades can be deadly as any suit can carry them without losing much effectiveness against other suits. If I would get swarmed but a bunch of red dots A/V nades can kill me.

The one thing i thing needs tweaking is TTK against other tanks. Rails are 2 gud and most of the time don't even give me or my enemy enough time to react and turn on our hardener(s).

Blasters are pretty balanced as they aren't as effective as rails against tanks but they tear infantry up.

Missile tanks - OMG! I just unlocked these as the skill requirements are the highest. THESE ARE BORDERLINE BROKEN! I can rush ANY other tank with a single hardener and I WILL kill it in one rack of missiles when I activate my militia damage mod (still haven't unlocked higher tier damage mods) No wonder I feared them so much when I saw one before! They kill infantry about as well as a rail tank and do not have the sniping damage, so i dunno maybe they are balanced, but holy crap they have the highest burst DPS out of any other turret against installations or vehicles.

I now lose a tank about every 3 matches or so by playing carefully and knowing who I am playing against. When I am against full squads from other good teams I sometimes stick to milita tanks because I know I will lose a few.

I don't see the issue with these things except the TTK with rails is a bit too low considering the range they have.

Yep 6 tanks in ambush going pew pew pew trololololololol is really balanced.

There is currently no effective counter in the game to beat a 6 man squad of tanks in ambush.

Sorry gentlemen but boosting up prices is not balance.

Is there anyone who doesn't spend all their time in tanks who agrees that they are balanced?

Is there anyone who doesn't spend all their time in tanks who agrees that they are balanced?

I'm serious. After starting up another alt back in 1.7 and playing him exclusively on tanks I can say that these things are balanced as hell.

I started out in Militia tanks and would lose enough tanks that I would have to run free suits for a few matches to get enough ISK for a few more tanks. I was losing 2 to 3 per match. After I got good enough i would lose a militia tank once every other match on average running rail tanks. Against infantry I wouldn't get THAT many kills. I would go 5/0 or 7/2 for example. I would get shot up by other rail tanks or sometimes a skilled blaster tank every so often but a rail tank isn't that effective against infantry. A/V would sometimes kill me. Swarms would only if they were coordinated (I think they must be poor versus shield tanks) but Forges make me run most of the time. A/V nades can be deadly as any suit can carry them without losing much effectiveness against other suits. If I would get swarmed but a bunch of red dots A/V nades can kill me.

The one thing i thing needs tweaking is TTK against other tanks. Rails are 2 gud and most of the time don't even give me or my enemy enough time to react and turn on our hardener(s).

Blasters are pretty balanced as they aren't as effective as rails against tanks but they tear infantry up.

Missile tanks - OMG! I just unlocked these as the skill requirements are the highest. THESE ARE BORDERLINE BROKEN! I can rush ANY other tank with a single hardener and I WILL kill it in one rack of missiles when I activate my militia damage mod (still haven't unlocked higher tier damage mods) No wonder I feared them so much when I saw one before! They kill infantry about as well as a rail tank and do not have the sniping damage, so i dunno maybe they are balanced, but holy crap they have the highest burst DPS out of any other turret against installations or vehicles.

I now lose a tank about every 3 matches or so by playing carefully and knowing who I am playing against. When I am against full squads from other good teams I sometimes stick to milita tanks because I know I will lose a few.

I don't see the issue with these things except the TTK with rails is a bit too low considering the range they have.