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Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 4352	Posted - 2014.01.21 10:30:00 - [31] - Quote If you're classifying Laser Rifles as LMG, I think it's worth reminding people about the Caldari Gauss Rifle that had its own YouTube video a while back.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1622	Posted - 2014.01.21 10:41:00 - [32] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: If you're classifying Laser Rifles as LMG, I think it's worth reminding people about the Caldari Gauss Rifle that had its own YouTube video a while back. Very good point, all though it would need a much larger magazine now, and the range is presented as 640m effective. Here is the video anyway, that now POTENTIALLY 3 LMG based weapons. http://youtu.be/NpJQjwKs6Kg Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 579	Posted - 2014.01.21 10:52:00 - [33] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: I wish they thought about releasing some of these old HMG designs. The digital camo one looks so freaking buff! Nice....
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 882	Posted - 2014.01.21 11:08:00 - [34] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: This thread is for the purpose of categorizing the weapons of Dust 514. Assault rifles G: Assault rifle: C: Rail rifle M: Combat rifle A: Scrambler rifle Pistols G: Ion pistol C: Bolt pistol M: flaylock pistol A: Scrambler pistol SMGs G: ? C: Magsec M: SMG A: ? Knives G: Unnamed, but announced C: Nova knives M: Unnamed, but announced A: Unnamed, but announced Sniper rifles G: ? C: Sniper rifle M: precision rifle A: Laser rifle? (can't rule out the possibility yet) Shotguns G: shotgun C: 2nd row from the top, 2nd gun from the left? (not sure) M: Weapon help by the guy on the far right? (not sure) A: ? It is possible that none of these things appearing in concept art aren't shotguns, and there might be no shotgun weapon class Light AV G: Plasma cannon C: Swarm launcher M: ? A: ? Heavy G: ? C: Forge gun M: HMG A: ? Grenades A: ? C: AV Grenade G: Flux Grenade M: Locus Grenade Other/Special G: shotgun? (not sure) C: ? M: Mass driver A: laser rifle? (not sure) Some help from CCP would be appreciated, like clarification of where the laser rifle belongs in. You got most of them right, but personally I would make a few tweaks. Firstly, I would ditch the sniper rifle and shotgun weapon classes, as they would be part of the special weapon category. Secondly I'm a little doubtful if the Forge gun counts as a heavy weapon or a heavy AV weapon. My list would be like this: Assault Rifles: G: Plasma Rifle C: Rail Rifle A: Scrambler Rifle M: Combat Rifle Light AV Weapons: G: Plasma Cannon C: Swarm Launcher A: ? M: ? Heavy AV Weapons: G: ? C: Forge Gun A: ? M: ? Heavy Infantry Weapons: G: ? C: ? A: ? M: HMG Long Range Rifles: G: ? C: ? A: ? M: Precision Rifle Special Weapons: G: Shotgun C: Sniper Rifle A: Laser Rifle M: Mass Driver Pistols: G: Ion Pistol C: Bolt Pistol A: Scrambler Pistol M: Flaylock Pistol Submachine Guns: G: ? C: Magsec SMG A: ? M: SMG(needs a better name) Knives: G: ? C: Nova Knife A: ? M: ? Grenades: G: Flux Grenade C: AV Grenade A: ? (Miasma grenade has been in SiSI for ages) M: Locus Grenade I'm not really sure where the forge gun or precision rifle would fit in these categories, but that's my understanding of the racial weapon categories. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 14th
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1623	Posted - 2014.01.21 11:53:00 - [35] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: This thread is for the purpose of categorizing the weapons of Dust 514. Assault rifles G: Assault rifle: C: Rail rifle M: Combat rifle A: Scrambler rifle Pistols G: Ion pistol C: Bolt pistol M: flaylock pistol A: Scrambler pistol SMGs G: ? C: Magsec M: SMG A: ? Knives G: Unnamed, but announced C: Nova knives M: Unnamed, but announced A: Unnamed, but announced Sniper rifles G: ? C: Sniper rifle M: precision rifle A: Laser rifle? (can't rule out the possibility yet) Shotguns G: shotgun C: 2nd row from the top, 2nd gun from the left? (not sure) M: Weapon help by the guy on the far right? (not sure) A: ? It is possible that none of these things appearing in concept art aren't shotguns, and there might be no shotgun weapon class Light AV G: Plasma cannon C: Swarm launcher M: ? A: ? Heavy G: ? C: Forge gun M: HMG A: ? Grenades A: ? C: AV Grenade G: Flux Grenade M: Locus Grenade Other/Special G: shotgun? (not sure) C: ? M: Mass driver A: laser rifle? (not sure) Some help from CCP would be appreciated, like clarification of where the laser rifle belongs in. You got most of them right, but personally I would make a few tweaks. Firstly, I would ditch the sniper rifle and shotgun weapon classes, as they would be part of the special weapon category. Secondly I'm a little doubtful if the Forge gun counts as a heavy weapon or a heavy AV weapon. My list would be like this: Assault Rifles: G: Plasma Rifle C: Rail Rifle A: Scrambler Rifle M: Combat Rifle Light AV Weapons: G: Plasma Cannon C: Swarm Launcher A: ? M: ? Heavy AV Weapons: G: ? C: Forge Gun A: ? M: ? Heavy Infantry Weapons: G: ? C: ? A: ? M: HMG Long Range Rifles: G: ? C: ? A: ? M: Precision Rifle Special Weapons: G: Shotgun C: Sniper Rifle A: Laser Rifle M: Mass Driver Pistols: G: Ion Pistol C: Bolt Pistol A: Scrambler Pistol M: Flaylock Pistol Submachine Guns: G: ? C: Magsec SMG A: ? M: SMG(needs a better name) Knives: G: ? C: Nova Knife A: ? M: ? Grenades: G: Flux Grenade C: AV Grenade A: ? (Miasma grenade has been in SiSI for ages) M: Locus Grenade I'm not really sure where the forge gun or precision rifle would fit in these categories, but that's my understanding of the racial weapon categories. Well you see that's the thing though, the prescision rifle is the Minmatar Sniper Rifle. If the Minmatar (second shortest range, groundside) are getting a sniper rifle it is safe to assume that everyone one will. It may be that there is a Shotgun Class - G, M , A Sniper Class - M, A, C AOE Class - G, M, C LMG Class - G, A, C prehaps? Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Summ Dude OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 160	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:58:00 - [36] - Quote Just thought I'd leave this here. Not just a laymen, but the laymen.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8819	Posted - 2014.02.05 01:19:00 - [37] - Quote Summ Dude wrote: Just thought I'd leave this here. Thanks, updated the OP Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6631	Posted - 2014.02.05 01:22:00 - [38] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: I believe the Mass Driver is in a AOE class, not sure wether laser is designated sniper or not, if it is it needs a horrendus buff. Also that one where you believe you see caldari shotgun, second row, second column I believe to be caldari AOE, third column caldari shotgun. The laser for what it is does not make sense as a sniper rifle, as I cannot be used effectively in the role required of a sniper. Since snipers need to remain hidden....the laser thows that **** out the window..... "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8819	Posted - 2014.02.05 01:26:00 - [39] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: I believe the Mass Driver is in a AOE class, not sure wether laser is designated sniper or not, if it is it needs a horrendus buff. Also that one where you believe you see caldari shotgun, second row, second column I believe to be caldari AOE, third column caldari shotgun. The laser for what it is does not make sense as a sniper rifle, as I cannot be used effectively in the role required of a sniper. Since snipers need to remain hidden....the laser thows that ** out the window..... You may be interested in that CCP confirmed mass driver is a "launcher" class weapon, and shares the same class with the plasma cannon and swarm launcher. I think I spotted the Amarr launcher as well. Also, names of the Gallente and Amarr heavy weapons have been revealed. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt** Gû¦Gû+
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6635	Posted - 2014.02.05 02:06:00 - [40] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: True Adamance wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: I believe the Mass Driver is in a AOE class, not sure wether laser is designated sniper or not, if it is it needs a horrendus buff. Also that one where you believe you see caldari shotgun, second row, second column I believe to be caldari AOE, third column caldari shotgun. The laser for what it is does not make sense as a sniper rifle, as I cannot be used effectively in the role required of a sniper. Since snipers need to remain hidden....the laser thows that **** out the window..... You may be interested in that CCP confirmed mass driver is a "launcher" class weapon, and shares the same class with the plasma cannon and swarm launcher. I think I spotted the Amarr launcher as well. Also, names of the Gallente and Amarr heavy weapons have been revealed. Not to us lesser beings though. Only CPM have that information I believe. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."

Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2021	Posted - 2014.02.05 09:04:00 - [41] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: True Adamance wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: I believe the Mass Driver is in a AOE class, not sure wether laser is designated sniper or not, if it is it needs a horrendus buff. Also that one where you believe you see caldari shotgun, second row, second column I believe to be caldari AOE, third column caldari shotgun. The laser for what it is does not make sense as a sniper rifle, as I cannot be used effectively in the role required of a sniper. Since snipers need to remain hidden....the laser thows that **** out the window..... You may be interested in that CCP confirmed mass driver is a "launcher" class weapon, and shares the same class with the plasma cannon and swarm launcher. I think I spotted the Amarr launcher as well. Also, names of the Gallente and Amarr heavy weapons have been revealed. True, but as they also say this doesn't mean you won't get a Minmatar AV weapon the Mass Driver is there so they can say they had one. Combat Engineer in training. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 9520	Posted - 2014.02.22 22:59:00 - [42] - Quote Quite a few places left to be filled Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1738	Posted - 2014.02.22 23:05:00 - [43] - Quote mismia grenade (from what I heard is akin to a flashbang) is probably Amarr. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 9520	Posted - 2014.02.22 23:07:00 - [44] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: mismia grenade (from what I heard is akin to a flashbang) is probably Amarr. Not sure if they're still planning that, but worth putting on the list as a possibility. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 312	Posted - 2014.02.22 23:14:00 - [45] - Quote Man give me that ******* Precision Rifle NAO! Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1739	Posted - 2014.02.22 23:18:00 - [46] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: mismia grenade (from what I heard is akin to a flashbang) is probably Amarr. Not sure if they're still planning that, but worth putting on the list as a possibility. I thought it was more like a smoke bomb though. flashbangs are essiently modern day smoke bombs, just with a limited range Anyways, looked up mismia, and found out that we're probably both wrong; mismia grenade would be a poison grenade. NOW it makes even more sense, because we all knows Amarr is perfectly fine with poisoning people. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 9520	Posted - 2014.02.22 23:22:00 - [47] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: mismia grenade (from what I heard is akin to a flashbang) is probably Amarr. Not sure if they're still planning that, but worth putting on the list as a possibility. I thought it was more like a smoke bomb though. flashbangs are essiently modern day smoke bombs, just with a limited range Anyways, looked up mismia, and found out that we're probably both wrong; mismia grenade would be a poison grenade. NOW it makes even more sense, because we all knows Amarr is perfectly fine with poisoning people. I've considered that, but we're wearing air-tight suits with their own life-support systems covered in shields and armor; I don't see how poisonous gas would do anything. Miasma is poison (though not necessarily in all definition), but always in a gas state, so I still think its going to be something gassy like smoke. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2022	Posted - 2014.02.22 23:24:00 - [48] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: mismia grenade (from what I heard is akin to a flashbang) is probably Amarr. Not sure if they're still planning that, but worth putting on the list as a possibility. I thought it was more like a smoke bomb though. flashbangs are essiently modern day smoke bombs, just with a limited range Anyways, looked up mismia, and found out that we're probably both wrong; mismia grenade would be a poison grenade. NOW it makes even more sense, because we all knows Amarr is perfectly fine with poisoning people. I've considered that, but we're wearing air-tight suits with their own life-support systems covered in shields and armor; I don't see how poisonous gas would do anything. Miasma is poison (though not necessarily in all definition), but always in a gas state, so I still think its going to be something gassy like smoke. I heard miassma will be an EMP mist, you will get electrical problems while in the grenades smoke. Combat Engineer in training. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1739	Posted - 2014.02.22 23:25:00 - [49] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: mismia grenade (from what I heard is akin to a flashbang) is probably Amarr. Not sure if they're still planning that, but worth putting on the list as a possibility. I thought it was more like a smoke bomb though. flashbangs are essiently modern day smoke bombs, just with a limited range Anyways, looked up mismia, and found out that we're probably both wrong; mismia grenade would be a poison grenade. NOW it makes even more sense, because we all knows Amarr is perfectly fine with poisoning people. I've considered that, but we're wearing air-tight suits with their own life-support systems covered in shields and armor; I don't see how poisonous gas would do anything. Miasma is poison (though not necessarily in all definition), but always in a gas state, so I still think its going to be something gassy like smoke. Just because it's a poison, doesn't mean it would b regular chemicals. It might eat away at the shields and armor. EDIT: Basically acid in gas form. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 9520	Posted - 2014.02.22 23:27:00 - [50] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: mismia grenade (from what I heard is akin to a flashbang) is probably Amarr. Not sure if they're still planning that, but worth putting on the list as a possibility. I thought it was more like a smoke bomb though. flashbangs are essiently modern day smoke bombs, just with a limited range Anyways, looked up mismia, and found out that we're probably both wrong; mismia grenade would be a poison grenade. NOW it makes even more sense, because we all knows Amarr is perfectly fine with poisoning people. I've considered that, but we're wearing air-tight suits with their own life-support systems covered in shields and armor; I don't see how poisonous gas would do anything. Miasma is poison (though not necessarily in all definition), but always in a gas state, so I still think its going to be something gassy like smoke. I heard miassma will be an EMP mist, you will get electrical problems while in the grenades smoke. That would be cool Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+

Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2005	Posted - 2014.02.22 23:30:00 - [51] - Quote If the above is true that'll be perfect for scouts "But we have been blessed"
Galthur Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 358	Posted - 2014.02.22 23:43:00 - [52] - Quote Scrambler Lance and Plasma Mortar where both CCP Logibro 'trolling' in IRC. That post is actually a troll post in itself as he decided to make it after Logibro admitted both were't real. I would suggest putting a ? in their place. What do you post in the war room when CCP is gone and PC is locked? 14:44 [CCP]Logibro: Not Anime.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 9520	Posted - 2014.02.22 23:45:00 - [53] - Quote Galthur wrote: Scrambler Lance and Plasma Mortar where both CCP Logibro 'trolling' in IRC. That post is actually a troll post in itself as he decided to make it after Logibro admitted both were't real. I would suggest putting a ? in their place. That's depressing Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 965	Posted - 2014.02.23 00:43:00 - [54] - Quote Greasepalms wrote: here's how I see it. Special Weapons: Mass Driver (M) Laser Rifle (A) Shotgun (G) Sniper (C) Mass driver is the minmatar launcher Plasma cannon is the gallente launcher Swarm lancher is the caldari launcher
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2032	Posted - 2014.02.23 10:56:00 - [55] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Greasepalms wrote: here's how I see it. Special Weapons: Mass Driver (M) Laser Rifle (A) Shotgun (G) Sniper (C) Mass driver is the minmatar launcher Plasma cannon is the gallente launcher Swarm lancher is the caldari launcher So far CCP may decide to release an AV Min lsuncher, which wiuld cast the MD into s new class. Combat Engineer in training. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 9529	Posted - 2014.02.23 17:28:00 - [56] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Greasepalms wrote: here's how I see it. Special Weapons: Mass Driver (M) Laser Rifle (A) Shotgun (G) Sniper (C) Mass driver is the minmatar launcher Plasma cannon is the gallente launcher Swarm lancher is the caldari launcher So far CCP may decide to release an AV Min lsuncher, which wiuld cast the MD into s new class. The way I see it, not all launchers need to be AV, it would be cool if the precision rifle was AV (like an anti-tank rifle) IMO. I do think the MD should do full damage against vehicles though. If the Minmatar has 2 launcher weapons, I will go OCD. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 311	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:54:00 - [57] - Quote 'Rifles' Rail Assault Combat Scrambler 'Specialist/demoralizers' Sniper Shotgun Laser Precision(?) Launchers Mass driver Swarm Plc ??? (Khanid kingdom short range anti-infantry rocket? Falling into amarr 'cqb' weapon) Etc etc etc
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 811	Posted - 2014.02.23 19:58:00 - [58] - Quote i like your efforts in finding the shotguns for each race, and the minmitar one looks ******* amazing, can't wait to use it. I think the laser rifle is the amarr precision weapon, though i may be mistaken Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 199	Posted - 2014.02.23 20:13:00 - [59] - Quote LOL, People try so hard to make people think the Forge Gun is a AV weapon. Keep trying cupcake. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 9901	Posted - 2014.03.11 20:31:00 - [60] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: LOL, People try so hard to make people think the Forge Gun is a AV weapon. Keep trying cupcake. I said its a heavy weapon, I don't know what you're talking about. Considering it does full damage against vehicles (which only AV weapons do), yes, it is AV. The fact that it is also effective against infantry in no way disqualifies it from being AV. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+



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