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Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.01.17 02:48:00 -
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Hello, my name is Musta Tornius and I've with the help of several fellow DUST Mercenaries, been working on a guide for the newer players of our community.
DUST 514 can be quite a daunting FPS game when you first try it out, and most likely quite overwhelming. Hopefully the basic knowledge you need to enjoy DUST can be found in the guide. It's not meant to be comprehensive guide on every little aspect of DUST, but it does aim to give you the knowledge you need to get going!
The guide will be updated every now and then when it's no longer accurate and things have changed. Feel free to post suggestions in this thread on what you'd like to see included or changed. Any inaccuracies reported will be graciously received.
Thank you guys that helped me make this guide possible, especially JasonPearson, Grit Breather, Heinz, Argo Filch, G Torq, CCP Saberwing & CCP Frame and anyone else I've forgotten!
The pdf can be found here on CCPs very own servers: New Players Guide to DUST 514
Last Update: 17.1.2014
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CCP Saberwing
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.17 02:52:00 -
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Brilliant stuff.
I'm thrilled with this guide and it absolutely deserves a Sticky. It is an awesome piece of work and we're happy to support it as much as possible.
Musta deserves all of the credit for this and I hope new players can find value in it and learn a great deal about the game.
Great work Musta, and thanks again. :)
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.17 05:23:00 -
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o7 Musta. Well done to yo u and your guide-writing bros.
I support SP rollover.
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Tectonic Fusion
975
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Posted - 2014.01.17 05:56:00 -
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Nice.
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D34NOS MAZDA
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.01.17 08:24:00 -
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Good guide.
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.01.17 08:33:00 -
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I am gonna read this when I get home, if I can tear myself away from stabbing mercs in game. Looks good. I like the first pic, though am I the only one who sees the Bolas in the background and screams "Bolas! Run away!" :-p
Would love to see a scout shotty or nova knifer in the pic too, but you can't fit every popular suit fit combo :)
Nice stuff! |
Jakar Umbra
Altyr Initiative
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Posted - 2014.01.17 14:22:00 -
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This is great! That's about all I can say.
Quick note. The Skirmish map you have up is a picture of Fracture Road not Line Harvest as the subtitle says.
Author of Umbra's Short Stories. Last story posted 11/25/2013.
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lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men.
285
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Posted - 2014.01.17 15:28:00 -
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Very nice |
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:02:00 -
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here, have a like.
this is an excellent guide.
Anime > EVERYTHING
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Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:34:00 -
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Jakar Umbra wrote:This is great! That's about all I can say.
Quick note. The Skirmish map you have up is a picture of Fracture Road not Line Harvest as the subtitle says.
Good catch, it was originally another picture which is why the names are mixed up. I'll add it to the list for v2 (coming after 1.8 sometime).
Thanks everyone for having a look. I realise this guide is not of much use to most people who have been around for a while as it's aimed at the newbros, but it's nice that you're double checking stuff :)
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.17 23:54:00 -
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+1.
Level 7 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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R F Gyro
Clones 4u
1063
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Posted - 2014.01.18 10:46:00 -
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Fantastic.
CCP, can we get a reference to this in game somehow?
RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
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G Torq
ALTA B2O
374
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Posted - 2014.01.18 17:56:00 -
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My name is G Torq, and I am not paid to endorse this message.
Team Fairy DUST
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Aizen Intiki
Hell's Gate Inc League of Infamy
709
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Posted - 2014.01.19 03:14:00 -
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I like how I wasn't invited to help in this
"Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say
Alt of the great Godin
I like chocolate ^___^
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2014.01.19 05:48:00 -
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Briliant! I would have liked to help but I didn't even know about this
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Mathew LaBorde
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.19 08:59:00 -
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Every time I get pissed off at the game and a new one comes out, I get it. Every time though I always find myself coming back to dust. |
ZiwZih
Seraphim Initiative..
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Posted - 2014.01.20 18:54:00 -
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GG Musta!
ZEN 514
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CCP Saberwing
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.21 02:00:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:Fantastic.
CCP, can we get a reference to this in game somehow? Sure, we probably could - although it could be tricky to directly link people to here!
CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian
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The Renegade AWOL
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.21 02:43:00 -
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This is some nice work, you've really outdone yourself here musta. |
Ky Phoenix
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.21 03:04:00 -
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Nice guide. Thanks! |
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
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Posted - 2014.01.21 05:20:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:R F Gyro wrote:Fantastic.
CCP, can we get a reference to this in game somehow? Sure, we probably could - although it could be tricky to directly link people to here!
Anything that really encourages new players to give this a little read through would be awesome.
Is there any possibility to have a brief summary version in game somehow?
Btw OP - Nice job :) |
I-Shayz-I
I-----I
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Posted - 2014.01.21 05:51:00 -
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Hey, would you be interested in a video collaboration inspiried by this guide?
Basically just a video version of it, touching on some of the more important points.
Links:
List of Most Important Threads
I make logistics videos!
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mystus no1
Industrie und Handels Konsortium Tribunal Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.21 08:04:00 -
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Sir, this is HUGE!
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Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.01.21 09:02:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Hey, would you be interested in a video collaboration inspiried by this guide?
Basically just a video version of it, touching on some of the more important points.
By all means, if it inspires you then go ahead and make a video version. I'm not a big video person myself but I can always include references to your work.
you can always find me on IRC if you want a chat about it.
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Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.21 13:58:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Hello, my name is Musta Tornius and I've with the help of several fellow DUST Mercenaries, been working on a guide for the newer players of our community. DUST 514 can be quite a daunting FPS game when you first try it out, and most likely quite overwhelming. Hopefully the basic knowledge you need to enjoy DUST can be found in the guide. It's not meant to be comprehensive guide on every little aspect of DUST, but it does aim to give you the knowledge you need to get going! The guide will be updated every now and then when it's no longer accurate and things have changed. Feel free to post suggestions in this thread on what you'd like to see included or changed. Any inaccuracies reported will be graciously received. Thank you guys that helped me make this guide possible, especially JasonPearson, Grit Breather, Heinz, Argo Filch, G Torq, CCP Saberwing & CCP Frame and anyone else I've forgotten! The pdf can be found here on CCPs very own servers: New Players Guide to DUST 514PS! If you are going to bookmark it, I recommend bookmarking this thread rather than the pdf file as the URL might change with future iterations. Last Update: 17.1.2014 This is how you become CPM.
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
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Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:00:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Hey, would you be interested in a video collaboration inspiried by this guide?
Basically just a video version of it, touching on some of the more important points. By all means, if it inspires you then go ahead and make a video version. I'm not a big video person myself but I can always include references to your work. you can always find me on IRC if you want a chat about it. How 'bout a power point presentation?
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
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Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:05:00 -
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I hate PowerPoint! unless there was a public outcry for it I wouldn't even consider it :p
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SILENTSAM 69
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:13:00 -
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Members of the community working on things like this and Dust Charts is a very good thing to see. It is part of what makes EVE great is the out of game content provided by the community, such as Dotlan for EVE. |
Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:29:00 -
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SILENTSAM 69 wrote:Members of the community working on things like this and Dust Charts is a very good thing to see. It is part of what makes EVE great is the out of game content provided by the community, such as Dotlan for EVE.
I totally agree with this. I love seeing player content being made.I had some time and realised that this guide didn't exist in this form anywhere, so I put some effort into it and made it happen!
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Mountain Doody
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.01.21 16:02:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:R F Gyro wrote:CCP, can we get a reference to this in game somehow? Sure, we probably could - although it could be tricky to directly link people to here! just add a loading screen tip: Check out the sticky threads in the Rookie Training Grounds at https://forums.dust514.com see also my other loading screen ideas |
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Requin Toblat
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2014.01.21 18:13:00 -
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Great work by all involved. This needs to be stickied on the forums and definitely linked in game somehow as Mountain Doody has said above.
Hope once the suits & weapons currently on SiSi are deployed this gets updated quicker than the official manual has been in the past |
Mountain Doody
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.01.21 18:36:00 -
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Suggestions: Add to grenades section: Grenades' fuse time is long enough that they are fairly easily avoidable. Improve your chances of a kill by cooking the grenade - hold the grenade button for a second or two before throwing it and your enemy will have less time to react.
Under 'Staying ISK Positive' this is a little confusing:Quote:Say you lose 5 suits each worth 10.000ISK (10k ISK) in a game then your total loss for that game is 50k, if you win 100k for that match then you have just netted 50k isk making you richer than you were before the match!
ThereGÇÖs always the risk that you waste an expensive fitting, which can easily cost more than 100k each, one time too many and only gain 200k in a match. Maybe something like: "On the other hand. there's always the risk that you lose more expensive fits. After two losses of a 100k suit, a 200k battle reward puts you right where you started."
Also I suggest, title the document according to the most recent patch, and add a revision suffix, like NewPlayersGuidetoDUST514-v1.7.a.pdf
Advantages: The content at a particular URL wouldn't change (it's considered good practice to keep the same information at the same URL) The URL or filename itself makes it obvious how recent the information is.
I would also like to see some further information on vehicle upgrades skills. Is it worth getting advanced or proto turrets? In what situations? |
Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
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Posted - 2014.01.21 19:16:00 -
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Nice work indeed
o7
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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Jadd Hatchen
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.01.21 20:30:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Hello, my name is Musta Tornius and I've with the help of several fellow DUST Mercenaries, been working on a guide for the newer players of our community. DUST 514 can be quite a daunting FPS game when you first try it out, and most likely quite overwhelming. Hopefully the basic knowledge you need to enjoy DUST can be found in the guide. It's not meant to be comprehensive guide on every little aspect of DUST, but it does aim to give you the knowledge you need to get going! The guide will be updated every now and then when it's no longer accurate and things have changed. Feel free to post suggestions in this thread on what you'd like to see included or changed. Any inaccuracies reported will be graciously received. Thank you guys that helped me make this guide possible, especially JasonPearson, Grit Breather, Heinz, Argo Filch, G Torq, CCP Saberwing & CCP Frame and anyone else I've forgotten! The pdf can be found here on CCPs very own servers: New Players Guide to DUST 514PS! If you are going to bookmark it, I recommend bookmarking this thread rather than the pdf file as the URL might change with future iterations. Last Update: 17.1.2014
First off, my hats off to you for taking the time to actually make something like this. It looks great and tries to give a new player information.
Now the bad parts... it's got many incorrect statements as well as improper terminologies throughout the document. So many that it will cause lots of confusion really. I've only skimmed it for all of 5 minutes so far, but I don't see how you conclude that the Amarr Race uses both armor AND shield? And Caldari don't just use Railguns, they use missiles too. Seriously, this document has a lot of inconsistencies with the game.
But in the end it is better than nothing and looks good for a first attempt.
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Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.01.21 20:31:00 -
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Requin Toblat wrote:Great work by all involved. This needs to be stickied on the forums and definitely linked in game somehow as Mountain Doody has said above.
Hope once the suits & weapons currently on SiSi are deployed this gets updated quicker than the official manual has been in the past
well that is only dependent on how much spare time I have. i'll prolly have a new version up a week after patch at latest!
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Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.01.21 20:39:00 -
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Mountain Doody wrote:Suggestions: Add to grenades section: Grenades' fuse time is long enough that they are fairly easily avoidable. Improve your chances of a kill by cooking the grenade - hold the grenade button for a second or two before throwing it and your enemy will have less time to react. Under 'Staying ISK Positive' this is a little confusing: Quote:Say you lose 5 suits each worth 10.000ISK (10k ISK) in a game then your total loss for that game is 50k, if you win 100k for that match then you have just netted 50k isk making you richer than you were before the match!
ThereGÇÖs always the risk that you waste an expensive fitting, which can easily cost more than 100k each, one time too many and only gain 200k in a match. Maybe something like: "On the other hand. there's always the risk that you lose more expensive fits. After two losses of a 100k suit, a 200k battle reward puts you right where you started." Also I suggest, title the document according to the most recent patch, and add a revision suffix, like NewPlayersGuidetoDUST514-v1.7.a.pdf Advantages: The content at a particular URL wouldn't change (it's considered good practice to keep the same information at the same URL) The URL or filename itself makes it obvious how recent the information is. I would also like to see some further information on vehicle upgrades skills. Is it worth getting advanced or proto turrets? In what situations?
All good stuff, I'll add it to the todo list.
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Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
988
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Posted - 2014.01.21 20:45:00 -
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Jadd Hatchen wrote:Musta Tornius wrote:Hello, my name is Musta Tornius and I've with the help of several fellow DUST Mercenaries, been working on a guide for the newer players of our community. DUST 514 can be quite a daunting FPS game when you first try it out, and most likely quite overwhelming. Hopefully the basic knowledge you need to enjoy DUST can be found in the guide. It's not meant to be comprehensive guide on every little aspect of DUST, but it does aim to give you the knowledge you need to get going! The guide will be updated every now and then when it's no longer accurate and things have changed. Feel free to post suggestions in this thread on what you'd like to see included or changed. Any inaccuracies reported will be graciously received. Thank you guys that helped me make this guide possible, especially JasonPearson, Grit Breather, Heinz, Argo Filch, G Torq, CCP Saberwing & CCP Frame and anyone else I've forgotten! The pdf can be found here on CCPs very own servers: New Players Guide to DUST 514PS! If you are going to bookmark it, I recommend bookmarking this thread rather than the pdf file as the URL might change with future iterations. Last Update: 17.1.2014 First off, my hats off to you for taking the time to actually make something like this. It looks great and tries to give a new player information. Now the bad parts... it's got many incorrect statements as well as improper terminologies throughout the document. So many that it will cause lots of confusion really. I've only skimmed it for all of 5 minutes so far, but I don't see how you conclude that the Amarr Race uses both armor AND shield? And Caldari don't just use Railguns, they use missiles too. Seriously, this document has a lot of inconsistencies with the game. But in the end it is better than nothing and looks good for a first attempt.
/me puts on armour and wizard hat. Right, amarr currently has same hp for armour and shields hence dual tanking ( as well as slots for either option except in sentinel).
As for caldari infantry, they only have railguns (and swarms). tanks have missiles as well as railguns. feel free to do a bullet point list of what you consider factual fallacies and I'll check em over in time for the next update, cheers!
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G Torq
ALTA B2O
380
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Posted - 2014.01.21 21:15:00 -
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Jadd Hatchen wrote:First off, my hats off to you for taking the time to actually make something like this. It looks great and tries to give a new player information.
Now the bad parts... it's got many incorrect statements as well as improper terminologies throughout the document. So many that it will cause lots of confusion really. I've only skimmed it for all of 5 minutes so far, but I don't see how you conclude that the Amarr Race uses both armor AND shield? And Caldari don't just use Railguns, they use missiles too. Seriously, this document has a lot of inconsistencies with the game.
But in the end it is better than nothing and looks good for a first attempt. Am glad to hear that you're volunteering to help work on the next version
Send a list of proposed changes, perhaps ask Musta for access to a copy you can attach comments directly to, and join us in #Dust-Dev on IRC to coordinate next steps.
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G Torq
ALTA B2O
380
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Posted - 2014.01.21 21:25:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Hey, would you be interested in a video collaboration inspiried by this guide?
Basically just a video version of it, touching on some of the more important points. I have no recording equipment, editing software or skills worth mentioning ... but if there is anything I can do to help, let me know.
Team Fairy DUST
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Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
989
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Posted - 2014.01.21 21:27:00 -
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G Torq wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Hey, would you be interested in a video collaboration inspiried by this guide?
Basically just a video version of it, touching on some of the more important points. I have no recording equipment, editing software or skills worth mentioning ... but if there is anything I can do to help, let me know.
You really know how to sell yourself torq ._o
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.22 16:46:00 -
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As someone who's been here for a year and a half...
I NEED ALL THE HELP I CAN GET!
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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ALPHA DECRIPTER
Dragon-Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.23 10:49:00 -
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almost no info on scouts/light frames but other then that I say it's a very good read! +1
Scout Tactician
Dance puppets, DANCE!
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Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.01.23 11:33:00 -
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ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:almost no info on scouts/light frames but other then that I say it's a very good read! +1
Something to add for the next version, with one eight there's gonna be quite a few changes so might hold off a week or two before doing it after the patch.
I guess I should get a work in progress version going. What I don't want to do is bloat the document with too much stuff. I like it to have what a newbro needs to get going, without having too much details, we all know how much there is to learn about DUST -_o
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Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
645
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Posted - 2014.01.24 12:36:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:almost no info on scouts/light frames but other then that I say it's a very good read! +1 Something to add for the next version, with one eight there's gonna be quite a few changes so might hold off a week or two before doing it after the patch. I guess I should get a work in progress version going. What I don't want to do is bloat the document with too much stuff. I like it to have what a newbro needs to get going, without having too much details, we all know how much there is to learn about DUST -_o With that in mind I'd suggest compacting the 4 pages about light weapons and expanding the 3 lines about equipment.
I'd also re-order things a little ... I don't think Corporations and Squads should be an afterthought on page 34 in a game who's entire philosophy is built around teamwork > all ... I'd drop the Economics down a bit and put squads/corporations up near the top with the Game Types info. Reason being, people don't want to trawl through an entire 40 page guide before playing a battle ... so give them the basics first and let them come back for more when they realise 'hey that was some useful info, I wonder what else I can learn'.
So I'd give them a little reading on game types and how to join squads n corps ... then tell them to go try some battles in starter fits, but come back soon to learn a bit about how best to spend those skill points or isk or make different fittings or vehicles etc.
Great job though ... looks like you've put some time and effort in ... above is just my opinions on where you could go from here ... who knows, in 10 years you could be publishing a pamphlet version to be bundled in the DUST 514 Collectors Edition ! |
Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.01.24 15:39:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote:Musta Tornius wrote:ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:almost no info on scouts/light frames but other then that I say it's a very good read! +1 Something to add for the next version, with one eight there's gonna be quite a few changes so might hold off a week or two before doing it after the patch. I guess I should get a work in progress version going. What I don't want to do is bloat the document with too much stuff. I like it to have what a newbro needs to get going, without having too much details, we all know how much there is to learn about DUST -_o With that in mind I'd suggest compacting the 4 pages about light weapons and expanding the 3 lines about equipment. I'd also re-order things a little ... I don't think Corporations and Squads should be an afterthought on page 34 in a game who's entire philosophy is built around teamwork > all ... I'd drop the Economics down a bit and put squads/corporations up near the top with the Game Types info. Reason being, people don't want to trawl through an entire 40 page guide before playing a battle ... so give them the basics first and let them come back for more when they realise 'hey that was some useful info, I wonder what else I can learn'. So I'd give them a little reading on game types and how to join squads n corps ... then tell them to go try some battles in starter fits, but come back soon to learn a bit about how best to spend those skill points or isk or make different fittings or vehicles etc. Great job though ... looks like you've put some time and effort in ... above is just my opinions on where you could go from here ... who knows, in 10 years you could be publishing a pamphlet version to be bundled in the DUST 514 Collectors Edition !
Not really any decent way of lessening the page requirements of light weapons without shrinking the images which I was adviced not to do. I'm a step ahead of you with the equipment, my wip version has a much larger section on them!
I disagree with the ordering, the table of content works as links, so you can just press on the link that interests you rather than having to read through everything. I do believe new players won't try squads and definitely not corps as their first steps into learning a new game so I left it till a little later.
You can after all play this game solo with varying success. Economics is one of the core concepts of this game so I do believe it is the first subject to tackle.
Thank you for your feedback, I appreciate that you took the time to put your thoughts down!
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ALPHA DECRIPTER
Dragon-Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.25 00:14:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:almost no info on scouts/light frames but other then that I say it's a very good read! +1 Something to add for the next version, with one eight there's gonna be quite a few changes so might hold off a week or two before doing it after the patch. I guess I should get a work in progress version going. What I don't want to do is bloat the document with too much stuff. I like it to have what a newbro needs to get going, without having too much details, we all know how much there is to learn about DUST -_o
Yea I suppose you could fill a history book with DUST info lol.
BTW if you need help with scout info you could always ask the guys at R O N 1 N as they are a scout training corp.
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
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Is there a page titled - Give Up?
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Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
1020
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:Is there a page titled - Give Up? Could be quite useful.
Pish posh, I'll leave it up to the players to figure it out for themselves if they want to play or not :) . Even when you're getting proto stomped the hardest there is nothing stopping you from grabbing that needle or militia assault rifle and learn something new.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.01.31 18:11:00 -
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Ah, people like you and fox make the rest of us look bad and we should feel bad. Strong work.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.1
Amarr victor!
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Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
1022
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Posted - 2014.01.31 18:46:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Ah, people like you and fox make the rest of us look bad and we should feel bad. Strong work.
Thank you very much, FoX Gaden has indeed got some very amazing guides written in the Rookie Section, I recommend you do a search for his posts in the rookie section to see what he has to offer!
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.02.01 03:08:00 -
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Nicely done, Sir! Hit us up @ The Scout Registry / Killboard should you ever have questions on/about/for Scouts. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2463
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I am supposed to be doing preelection coverage of the CPM1 candidates on The Council Chamber forum, but instead I am slacking of, sipping my coffee, nibbling my chocolate chip muffin, and thoroughly enjoying reading this guide.
It is light enough to make it an enjoyable read, while still managing to present a lot of information. I like how it takes a step back and introduces the broader game.
Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014
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Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
1044
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Posted - 2014.02.11 15:35:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:I am supposed to be doing preelection coverage of the CPM1 candidates on The Council Chamber forum, but instead I am slacking of, sipping my coffee, nibbling my chocolate chip muffin, and thoroughly enjoying reading this guide.
It is light enough to make it an enjoyable read, while still managing to present a lot of information. I like how it takes a step back and introduces the broader game.
There should really be a copy of this guide in every Merc Quarters, allowing you to open the PDF in game.
Thank you very much Fox, I appreciate the kind words of a fellow guide maker! That is pretty much what I was aiming for when I created it, something easily digested but still covering what I considered essential.
Thanks for the feedback, too!
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2464
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Posted - 2014.02.11 16:22:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Thank you very much Fox, I appreciate the kind words of a fellow guide maker! That is pretty much what I was aiming for when I created it, something easily digested but still covering what I considered essential.
Thanks for the feedback, too! I am only on page 27. They feedback is still flowing.
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ALPHA DECRIPTER
Dragon-Empire
728
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Fox Gaden wrote: ... "Stick together with your teammates, go where the fighting is thick. Repair your buddiesGÇÖ armor, put uplinks down in a safe area near the fighting and pick up (nanite inject) friendlies who have been downed (when itGÇÖs somewhat clear, NOT when bullets are flying over the body). "
Add: GÇ£It is worth noting that the nanite injector is the only piece of equipment that can be used without switching from your weapon. Simple click the circle button when standing over an unconscious teammate and the nanite injector will activate.GÇ¥
Would rather say "Action Button" as players using "Duty Calls" will have to press square which is, for most PS3 gun games, the action button.
Fox Gaden wrote: Top of Page 36: "If youGÇÖre not in a squad when you join a match, and there are open squads with available spots in the match, then you will randomly be placed in one. It is up to you if you stay in the squad or leave it." (Is this true? I thought unsquaded people joining a match were placed in GÇ£No SquadGÇ¥.)
No, this isn't true and should be removed. Unless, of course, CCP decides to make it a feature in 1.8.
Scout Tactician
Dance puppets, DANCE!
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Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
1046
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Posted - 2014.02.12 12:53:00 -
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Just a quick note, Fox regarding your dmg stacking calculations. Damage mods are multiplied together and not added.
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DJINN Nukem
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.02.12 22:03:00 -
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excellent write up Musta!!!
Trample The Weak Hurdle the Dead
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Croned
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Still a few comma errors. I'll try to copyedit when I have the time.
Son of a plasma cannon!
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Musta Tornius
Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising
1049
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Posted - 2014.02.13 10:11:00 -
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Croned wrote:Still a few comma errors. I'll try to copyedit when I have the time.
-_o a must unhelpful feedback post. Either help out or don't, either way is fine but for the love of god don't say you might or might not give feedback in the future.
If there was a dislike button I'd -10 your post right on the spot :)
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
9619
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Musta Tornius wrote:Croned wrote:Still a few comma errors. I'll try to copyedit when I have the time. -_o a most unhelpful feedback post. Either help out or don't, either way is fine but for the love of god don't say you might or might not give feedback in the future. If there was a dislike button I'd -10 your post right on the spot :)
i might giv fedback l8r
ZATARA CARRIES US ALL
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
790
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Posted - 2014.03.07 21:17:00 -
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Bravo, Musta, Bravo! |
Aderek
HavoK Core RISE of LEGION
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Good job :) I will wait for 1.8 version :) |
Musta Tornius
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Aderek wrote:Good job :) I will wait for 1.8 version :)
Thanks, I've recruited a few helpers to give some more personalised input from their viewpoint. I've already revised some sections such as equipment. The 1.8 version should land in a week or more likely two. I'll change the thread header when it does.
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Xaviah Reaper
Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad.
319
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:55:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Hello, my name is Musta Tornius and I've with the help of several fellow DUST Mercenaries, been working on a guide for the newer players of our community. DUST 514 can be quite a daunting FPS game when you first try it out, and most likely quite overwhelming. Hopefully the basic knowledge you need to enjoy DUST can be found in the guide. It's not meant to be comprehensive guide on every little aspect of DUST, but it does aim to give you the knowledge you need to get going! The guide will be updated every now and then when it's no longer accurate and things have changed. Feel free to post suggestions in this thread on what you'd like to see included or changed. Any inaccuracies reported will be graciously received. Thank you guys that helped me make this guide possible, especially JasonPearson, Grit Breather, Heinz, Argo Filch, G Torq, CCP Saberwing & CCP Frame and anyone else I've forgotten! The pdf can be found here on CCPs very own servers: New Players Guide to DUST 514PS! If you are going to bookmark it, I recommend bookmarking this thread rather than the pdf file as the URL might change with future iterations. Last Update: 17.1.2014 PS! If you create a new account using this link: https://dust514.com/recruit/MtXGDl/ you will receive a permanent assault rifle from CCP. If you progress further you will then get a permanent SMG and later on a permanent Suit. I will receive some items myself too if you do well!
incredibly smart move throwing your recruiters link in there. real smooth also a little lame how ccp didnt just make their own perfectly reasonable and freshly updated guide instead of you awesome guys needing to do it.. suppose somebody had to :P I tried a Dropship guide pre1.7, and then they removed the Eryx >.>
most common words on the forums? ccp, fix, imbalance, annoying, frustrating, stupid, broken, OP, Tanks, dropships.......
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Musta Tornius
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1217
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Posted - 2014.03.24 23:09:00 -
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Xaviah Reaper wrote:Musta Tornius wrote:Hello, my name is Musta Tornius and I've with the help of several fellow DUST Mercenaries, been working on a guide for the newer players of our community. DUST 514 can be quite a daunting FPS game when you first try it out, and most likely quite overwhelming. Hopefully the basic knowledge you need to enjoy DUST can be found in the guide. It's not meant to be comprehensive guide on every little aspect of DUST, but it does aim to give you the knowledge you need to get going! The guide will be updated every now and then when it's no longer accurate and things have changed. Feel free to post suggestions in this thread on what you'd like to see included or changed. Any inaccuracies reported will be graciously received. Thank you guys that helped me make this guide possible, especially JasonPearson, Grit Breather, Heinz, Argo Filch, G Torq, CCP Saberwing & CCP Frame and anyone else I've forgotten! The pdf can be found here on CCPs very own servers: New Players Guide to DUST 514PS! If you are going to bookmark it, I recommend bookmarking this thread rather than the pdf file as the URL might change with future iterations. Last Update: 17.1.2014 PS! If you create a new account using this link: https://dust514.com/recruit/MtXGDl/ you will receive a permanent assault rifle from CCP. If you progress further you will then get a permanent SMG and later on a permanent Suit. I will receive some items myself too if you do well! incredibly smart move throwing your recruiters link in there. real smooth also a little lame how ccp didnt just make their own perfectly reasonable and freshly updated guide instead of you awesome guys needing to do it.. suppose somebody had to :P I tried a Dropship guide pre1.7, and then they removed the Eryx >.>
Why thank you very much . Maybe they will one day, till then it's community power!
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Xaviah Reaper
Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad.
384
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Posted - 2014.03.28 00:42:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:R F Gyro wrote:Fantastic.
CCP, can we get a reference to this in game somehow? Sure, we probably could - although it could be tricky to directly link people to here!
implement the browser found in eve, directly into D514. It is possible, seeing as we can access the ccp servers for playing dust, and the PSN servers for aurum transactions, both without the game client closing.
otherwise, why not introduce an advanced tutorial option during the tutorial player go through at the beginning of character creation.
Just read the damn thread
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axINVICTUSxa
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
30
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:07:00 -
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Perhaps a section you've forgotten in your guide:
YES COMRADE!!! DUST is game for casual gamer! Enjoy your time here in DUST 514!
Enjoy getting spawn-raped at 10 FPS! Enjoy walking out into the open and getting knifed in the back by a cloaked scout! Enjoy getting run over by LAV's! Enjoy getting blown up by Jihad jeeps! Enjoy getting your body mutilated by triple rep NOS Madrugars! Enjoy losing more ISK than you actually gain! Enjoy roflstomping QQ'ing Protoscrubs! Enjoy running those militia fits because you can't afford anything else! Enjoy being cheap! Enjoy dying! Enjoy...!
-Dmitri Chuikov
I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
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Musta Tornius
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1253
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Posted - 2014.04.02 07:57:00 -
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First update for the guide is done and posted, link is still the same. I took all the feedback into account and implemented most of it. I've added equipment and modules a bit more in depth this time. I also revised some sections that affected 1.8 such as weapons.
I was thinking for the next iteration to maybe have a new chapter in it called Strategies or something similar, in which you have one suit per sub chapter and a small say half a page text to go along with it explaining how to best use the suit. This section could be made by others and not just me.
Anyway, look me up on IRC or email me at mustatornius at gmail.com if you're interested in contributing a small section in it. No lolfits though or proto suits thanks. It is after all a new player guide.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2954
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Posted - 2014.04.17 13:43:00 -
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Putting this as a Sticky on the General Discussion forum was a good decision. Too bad it canGÇÖt be accessed in game.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Musta Tornius
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1274
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Posted - 2014.04.17 19:58:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Putting this as a Sticky on the General Discussion forum was a good decision. Too bad it canGÇÖt be accessed in game.
If you want some more in depth stuff I suggest you look up this guy's posts in the rookie section. He's got a really big cache of guides available to everyone.
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Gaurdian Satyr
Glitched Connection
147
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Posted - 2014.04.21 03:08:00 -
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Ive came across a problem....Stardust incorparted....
Everytime i find duna there is a stardust in the game also tanking and they watch each others back and destroy everything they see....same team or enemies they meet in their tanks and kill anything they find
1 match they actually united the reds and blues
-holds arms in O- throw it in the story basket bro
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BIind Shot
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
254
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Posted - 2014.05.02 16:42:00 -
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NEW PLAYERS GUIDE as of 5/02/2014
Press PS button located on your controller, select quit hit X. Press triangle over Dust 514 , select delete and hit X. GG.
and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
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137H4RGIC
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
163
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BIind Shot wrote:NEW PLAYERS GUIDE as of 5/02/2014
Press PS button located on your controller, select quit hit X. Press triangle over Dust 514 , select delete and hit X. GG. Agreed, have a welcome screen saying "Turn around! THey're closing shop, don't waste your moneys" |
Dj grammer
Red Star. EoN.
226
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BIind Shot wrote:NEW PLAYERS GUIDE as of 5/02/2014
Press PS button located on your controller, select quit hit X. Press triangle over Dust 514 , select delete and hit X. GG.
That made my day. Funny because I was going to do this after my Exam
Open Beta (03/26/2012) to a 1-year Vet.
Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0.
Yea that old.
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BIind Shot
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
257
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Dj grammer wrote:BIind Shot wrote:NEW PLAYERS GUIDE as of 5/02/2014
Press PS button located on your controller, select quit hit X. Press triangle over Dust 514 , select delete and hit X. GG. That made my day. Funny because I was going to do this after my Exam
I've made some good friends on dust. I'm going to delete after I figure out what game we're migrating to.
and he said unto them, "Bring ye all your trolls, that they shall feed".
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
704
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Posted - 2014.05.06 00:07:00 -
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guide rule #1: we don't even know when they're going to shut the dust server down, so it's best not to make any long term investments. you're lucky. you have the choice. older players don't.
Sign if you refuse to give up on the PS3 Dust
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Doc Browner
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
253
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Posted - 2014.05.08 21:08:00 -
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Tips: 1) Fill tub full of water 2) Throw ps3 onto tub 3) let ps3 soak for 30 mins 4) let dry 5) Enjoy DUST514
I spill my Blood for Freedom and righteousness
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
9105
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Posted - 2014.06.03 23:39:00 -
[78] - Quote
Glad to see others taking an interest in improving this brutal NPE.
HvLP Spreadsheet Warrior
Need HeLP in PC? Contact Me In-Game :D
-HAND
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Symbioticforks
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
266
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Posted - 2014.07.27 20:26:00 -
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console kiddies suck anyway.
^^CCP IGNORES ALL SNIPER RELATED ISSUES^^
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Seymor Krelborn
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
2434
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Symbioticforks wrote:console kiddies suck anyway.
I agree... almost as much as PC kiddies.
I say almost because at least console kiddies are like 12-14
but PC kiddies are like 40 on average, they also usually have an unhealthy obsession with cartoons made for young girls...and, young girls...#ewwwww
this game makes me sad....
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Snake Sellors
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
244
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Very impressive, ccp should buy this off you for official use. |
Stevez WingYip
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
2
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Wonderful guide, thanks for taking the time to write all of this! |
Terry Webber
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.01 07:20:00 -
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Hey, Musta, will you be updating the guide after 1.9? |
sir RAVEN WING
Huogikku Corporation Heiian Conglomerate
77
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Great work o7
Creative with guns
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Musta Tornius
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Terry Webber wrote:Hey, Musta, will you be updating the guide after 1.9?
I think this is the first time I've logged on to the forums properly since shortly after Fan Fest. Needless to say I was quite shocked and disappointed in ccps way letting us know about legion etc. A big chunk of 3rd party work died that day for DUST.
To be honest, I've played DUST maybe once after fan fest. I have given thought to coming back but not at the moment. Maybe I'll check 1.9 out in a few weeks.
I'm in full time employment now with my hands full and not playing DUST any longer so I can't really justify the time expense it would take to re-write the guide. However, if you're interested in helping out in updating the guide then I can give you access to a copy on google drive where you can update it under my supervision :). DUST is a complicated game and newbies deserve a chance of having the correct information at their disposal.
Anyone who is interested in doing some work to update the guide, feel free to drop me a line @ [email protected] if you're interested. Apologies in advance if I'm slow at replying to you or if I will decline your help, it is mostly my work after all and I have a high expectation of the standard of work :)
On a side note, I can't believe I haven't been booted from Molon Labe for being inactive for half a year! <3
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Terry Webber
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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I appreciate the offer, Musta, but I'm also busy with life. I'm sure there are others that can do it though. |
Immortal John Ripper
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bump
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General John Ripper
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bump
Everything CCP does is right.
They are the greatest company in the world.
CCP cares about the playerbase.
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I-Shayz-I
I----------I
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Seriously considering making super short summary videos of this instead of what I originally wanted to do...
I'll have to make a logi tutorial series first but once my custom PC is built, making videos will take so much less time.
7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
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Principe Sergio Jr
DUST BRASIL S.A RISE of LEGION
0
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Posted - 2014.11.29 13:45:00 -
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Please CCP create a forum in Portuguese! |
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4lbert Wesker
Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment.
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Principe Sergio Jr wrote:Please CCP create a forum in Portuguese!
Learn english,it's much easier.
I punched camel once,and it meows at me
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Immortal John Ripper
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4lbert Wesker wrote:Principe Sergio Jr wrote:Please CCP create a forum in Portuguese! Learn english,it's much easier. No.
I'm strong to the finich
Cause I eats me spinach.
I'm GJR the Forum God. TOOT! TOOT!
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Principe Sergio Jr
DUST BRASIL S.A RISE of LEGION
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4lbert Wesker wrote:Principe Sergio Jr wrote:Please CCP create a forum in Portuguese! Learn english,it's much easier.
That's not it, but just as the dust contains linguage in Spanish and engles. could also contain in Portuguese. but it may be that the CCP, has the same attitude that you had in relation to my request. |
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