You actually can overheat an assault rifle, but it takes multiple clips. Try it out sometimes.

Just to preface this, when I say AR, I mean all rifle variants.

Basically the title. It sorta makes sense from both balancing and common sense view. Makes sense from the balancing view because people will always cry ARs are OP (and they're not entirely wrong) so this is a nice nerf to them that is manageable without being crushing, and it makes sense from a common sense viewpoint because other weapons of the same type overheat. What I mean when I say that is:

Blaster turrets overheat, they are hybrid plasma, so why doesn't the plasma rifle(assault rifle) overheat?
Railgun turrets overheat, they are hybrid rail, so why don't rail rifles overheat?
The HMG overheats, it is projectile, so why doesn't the CR overheat?

Not that I'm saying that EVERY weapon should get an overheat mechanic, but it is a nice way to nerf something while also adding a new mechanic that actually requires a small degree of thinking. This is the, "thinking man's shooter," after all.

rail rifles dont need overheat, its NEAR impossible to to land the last 10 or so bullets of the clip with the insane recoil even at 5

rail rifles dont need overheat, its NEAR impossible to to land the last 10 or so bullets of the clip with the insane recoil even at 5

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who believes that an overheat mechanic for a small arm is stupid. Especially an overheat mechanic that hurts the user - a weapon that may have to discharge dangerous amounts of heat would discharge them away from the user.

Oh well, plenty off CCP's weapon design decisions don't make any sense to anyone with a basic understanding of real world weapons.

Yes, because I just recently went down to the local gun shop to purchase myself a Scrambler Rifle, and I now realize that CCP totally didn't follow the real-world design!

Just to preface this, when I say AR, I mean all rifle variants.

Basically the title. It sorta makes sense from both balancing and common sense view. Makes sense from the balancing view because people will always cry ARs are OP (and they're not entirely wrong) so this is a nice nerf to them that is manageable without being crushing, and it makes sense from a common sense viewpoint because other weapons of the same type overheat. What I mean when I say that is:

Blaster turrets overheat, they are hybrid plasma, so why doesn't the plasma rifle(assault rifle) overheat?
Railgun turrets overheat, they are hybrid rail, so why don't rail rifles overheat?
The HMG overheats, it is projectile, so why doesn't the CR overheat?

Not that I'm saying that EVERY weapon should get an overheat mechanic, but it is a nice way to nerf something while also adding a new mechanic that actually requires a small degree of thinking. This is the, "thinking man's shooter," after all.

Just to preface this, when I say AR, I mean all rifle variants.

Basically the title. It sorta makes sense from both balancing and common sense view. Makes sense from the balancing view because people will always cry ARs are OP (and they're not entirely wrong) so this is a nice nerf to them that is manageable without being crushing, and it makes sense from a common sense viewpoint because other weapons of the same type overheat. What I mean when I say that is:

Blaster turrets overheat, they are hybrid plasma, so why doesn't the plasma rifle(assault rifle) overheat?
Railgun turrets overheat, they are hybrid rail, so why don't rail rifles overheat?
The HMG overheats, it is projectile, so why doesn't the CR overheat?

Not that I'm saying that EVERY weapon should get an overheat mechanic, but it is a nice way to nerf something while also adding a new mechanic that actually requires a small degree of thinking. This is the, "thinking man's shooter," after all.

Yes, because I just recently went down to the local gun shop to purchase myself a Scrambler Rifle, and I now realize that CCP totally didn't follow the real-world design!

Well the gallente ar mag holds plasma so I'm guessing the materials the guns are made of can handle it.

It must be really hard using a weapon that has massive range, pinpoint accuracy, and great CQC usage. Allow me to rescind my proposal, for your sake. While I'm thinking of it, we should also make a petition to remove overheat from the Assault Scrambler Rifle. Since that has massive recoil as well, it totally isn't justified for it to have an overheat mechanic.

Naw mang, mah ScR puts me in hospital wih cooked fingers every couple of days.

its **** in CQC versing any other reasonable light weapon, if you die to a non assault rail rifle in cqc its pretty obvious, youre a **** player, or youre out of ammo

You actually can overheat an assault rifle, but it takes multiple clips. Try it out sometimes.

Its true.

I have overheated my Krin just playing with the 90 round clip. I have not ever experienced it on any other ARs.

I'd like to see Weapon Jams caused by prolong use through a combination of sustained fire and constant reloading.

What would even be better is Discrete Magazine counts. One of the older Ghost Recons on the Play Station had it that way. Having to balance out the virtues of swapping out or cycling back to one with only a few shots left.

Alright, but how about an overheat mechanic that you actually have to worry about? Would that be heavyhanded nerf-wise?

Alright, but how about an overheat mechanic that you actually have to worry about? Would that be heavyhanded nerf-wise?

I'd like to see Weapon Jams caused by prolong use through a combination of sustained fire and constant reloading.

What would even be better is Discrete Magazine counts. One of the older Ghost Recons on the Play Station had it that way. Having to balance out the virtues of swapping out or cycling back to one with only a few shots left.

Guns that act unreliable on the field wouldnt make it passed their tests these days, so i doubt in the next 4000 or so years we would be able to build weapons with frictionless components that dont gegenrate heat at all.

Just adding a heat mechanic to everything, "just because" is a stupid idea, in the end you are gonna end up with everything playing and feeling the same...

I'd like to see Weapon Jams caused by prolong use through a combination of sustained fire and constant reloading.

What would even be better is Discrete Magazine counts. One of the older Ghost Recons on the Play Station had it that way. Having to balance out the virtues of swapping out or cycling back to one with only a few shots left.

But the only difference from now where all weapons play the same (going by your given logic), is that we would have more mechanics to deal with. More mechanics = more depth of gameplay as long as there aren't a ridiculous amount of mechanics to process by the player.

I suggest that you read my suggestion from earlier in the thread.

Complexity is not depth.
A complicated game is not necessarily deep. It's just obtuse.
It's deep when the complexity actually adds something to the game.

The current reload feature, for example, adds depth by creating a delay every X shots that can be reset by sprinting or changing weapons, meaning that the enemy will try to press forward when you need to reload. It's also way too complicated, with a button press and an animation, because it should be automatic as long as it doesn't work differently from its current implementation - It's so simple that you will ALWAYS want to reload when you are able to.
The vehicle reload is actually implemented better than the infantry reload - It's automatic in the no-brainer situation (when your bullets run out) and actually adds huge delay when you reload, causing you to think about when to press the button. The delay is also dependant on how many bullets you have used.


If everyone gets overheat, you just cheapen the feature. That's like giving everyone the same passive scan range. Each rifle gimmick has a specific purpose.
Each weapon has its own gimmick. The Rail rifle has a pre-fire delay. The Scrambler rifle has overheating and charge shots. The AR has (pointless) overheating and is geared for close combat and the CR is geared towards longer ranges than AR but shorter than RR, including the zooming sights and lack of pre-fire delay.

I'd like to see Weapon Jams caused by prolong use through a combination of sustained fire and constant reloading.

What would even be better is Discrete Magazine counts. One of the older Ghost Recons on the Play Station had it that way. Having to balance out the virtues of swapping out or cycling back to one with only a few shots left.

my AR jammed today... i pulled the trigger, nothng happened... so i meleed my way to a nanohive... stood for a bit... banged on it... then it worked again. (FUTURISTIC WEAPONS cool down by waving them around!)