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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3515	Posted - 2014.01.16 03:16:00 - [1] - Quote They actually invested SP and ISK into their role. Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock *FORGE MASTER RACE*
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5772	Posted - 2014.01.16 03:18:00 - [2] - Quote Atiim wrote: They actually invested SP and ISK into their role. Yeah I should have stayed MLT now I would have 9 Million SP uninvested and still be as effective as I am now. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
CRYPT3C W0LF Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 208	Posted - 2014.01.16 03:20:00 - [3] - Quote I'm able to get 9000 armor on a maddy since I have armor skillz maxed and 50% rotation speed increase Official Dust 514 Complaint Department Dedicated Scout
The Attorney General 1758	Posted - 2014.01.16 03:23:00 - [4] - Quote So what your saying is that proto swarms should do the same damage as MLT? Gotcha. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3515	Posted - 2014.01.16 03:24:00 - [5] - Quote CRYPT3C W0LF wrote: I'm able to get 9000 armor on a maddy since I have armor skillz maxed and 50% rotation speed increase But do you really need it? Unless your trying to nab that Jihad Jeep, you can easily rotate the tank instead of the turret. 9k Armor is impressive, but still unnessesary when you can already achieve 15k eHP. Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock *FORGE MASTER RACE*
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3282	Posted - 2014.01.16 03:25:00 - [6] - Quote Whatever happened to that implied rule not to insult an entire class of players in your OP? You wanna battle / Aztec's not afraid of you / I could care less about your reputation / Even though it maybe true.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3515	Posted - 2014.01.16 03:25:00 - [7] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: So what your saying is that proto swarms should do the same damage as MLT? Gotcha. Nope. I'm just messing around. What I'm saying is that besides Missile Turrets you must regret actually spending SP knowing that a MLT vehicle can do it just as well, while being virtually ISK/SP cost free. Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock *FORGE MASTER RACE*
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5772	Posted - 2014.01.16 03:26:00 - [8] - Quote He's not we're pretty silly. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3515	Posted - 2014.01.16 03:26:00 - [9] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Whatever happened to that implied rule not to insult an entire class of players in your OP? Dude, it's just a joke. See above. Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock *FORGE MASTER RACE*
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 32	Posted - 2014.01.16 03:28:00 - [10] - Quote Atiim wrote: They actually invested SP and ISK into their role. I take offence to this! :P Some of us have been tankers (And the old LLAV drivers) since before 1.7. We used to HAVE to have skills into tanks to even be marginally effective.

The Attorney General 1759	Posted - 2014.01.16 03:29:00 - [11] - Quote Atiim wrote: The Attorney General wrote: So what your saying is that proto swarms should do the same damage as MLT? Gotcha. Nope. I'm just messing around. What I'm saying is that besides Missile Turrets you must regret actually spending SP knowing that a MLT vehicle can do it just as well, while being virtually ISK/SP cost free. Not at all. This game is always in a state of flux, and the stats as they are now will not always be so. I enjoy tanking, and the boon that MLT tankers have right now won't last. When the music stops, there I'll be with fully maxed out skills, rocking and rolling. When tanks get nerfed, those SP are going to be very needed. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3518	Posted - 2014.01.16 03:31:00 - [12] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: Atiim wrote: They actually invested SP and ISK into their role. I take offence to this! :P Some of us have been tankers (And the old LLAV drivers) since before 1.7. We used to HAVE to have skills into tanks to even be marginally effective. I remember when I used to rep 3 things at once with my LLAV. And hardners with the maxed out operation skill? I hope they bring it back. Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock *FORGE MASTER RACE*
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3518	Posted - 2014.01.16 03:34:00 - [13] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Not at all. This game is always in a state of flux, and the stats as they are now will not always be so. I enjoy tanking, and the boon that MLT tankers have right now won't last. When the music stops, there I'll be with fully maxed out skills, rocking and rolling. When tanks get nerfed, those SP are going to be very needed. Well, we all know how fast that's gonna take Though when I finish maxing the rest of my skills, I'm gonna go straight for that 20GJ Particle Cannon. It may even make a nice placeholder for the LLAVs. Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock *FORGE MASTER RACE*
jerrmy12 kahoalii The Phoenix Federation 383	Posted - 2014.01.16 03:57:00 - [14] - Quote Atiim wrote: They actually invested SP and ISK into their role. T3ll me about it Apart of forge master race Closed beta vet I use a tablet so beware of typos
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 645	Posted - 2014.01.16 04:33:00 - [15] - Quote I think my favorite poster in the entire forums is the one who once said that (most) tankers flunked kindergarten The Last Of The BHD
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 611	Posted - 2014.01.16 04:37:00 - [16] - Quote A skilled up rail tank will still beat virtually any militia rail. Other than that, yeah, there's kind of no point except to do better against other tanks. Dropship Specialist Kills- Incubus: 4; Pythons: 1; Other DS: 28 Gêå1; Tanks: 27 Gêå2 1/1
8213 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1340	Posted - 2014.01.16 04:41:00 - [17] - Quote So long as they stay cheap as dirt, I'll never skill into tanks. I'll just keep using my ADV and STD modules on the militia tin cans. I only die if I allow it. Fish in a bucket!
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4471	Posted - 2014.01.16 05:11:00 - [18] - Quote Atiim wrote: They actually invested SP and ISK into their role. MLT everything. If you don't, you're ******. I'm obviously an utter ***** moron putting SP into Assault Dropships, when I should just be redline sniping with triple-Damage Mod Sicas. The sad part is this is exactly how the game is right now. Investing SP in vehicles just means you're losing even more ISK when a 100k or lower vehicle tears you to pieces before you can even retaliate. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Awesome Pantaloons Lokapalas. 230	Posted - 2014.01.16 05:24:00 - [19] - Quote Atiim wrote: The Attorney General wrote: So what your saying is that proto swarms should do the same damage as MLT? Gotcha. Nope. I'm just messing around. What I'm saying is that besides Missile Turrets you must regret actually spending SP knowing that a MLT vehicle can do it just as well, while being virtually ISK/SP cost free. Yep, ever since my post there has been a lot of trolly tank talk. XD Militia FG for the win, b*tches. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3631	Posted - 2014.01.16 05:31:00 - [20] - Quote Atiim wrote: They actually invested SP and ISK into their role. I do fine with my 2 Shield Hardener + Armor hardener + Armor repairer Sica with rail... :3 GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.

Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 148	Posted - 2014.01.16 05:42:00 - [21] - Quote Tanks were proto gets stomped by militia. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5779	Posted - 2014.01.16 05:42:00 - [22] - Quote Tanking is just so boring and lack lustre now, At this point I have basically quit since its no longer fun to kill MLT tanks every 2 mins or watch 4 idiots try to rush me in Sica..... Frankly speaking a Sica is all you need, a damn rail turret as well. As someone here said its like most tankers have flunked kindergarten. No skill is required just line of sight and being the first one to fire the rail gun. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 822	Posted - 2014.01.16 05:48:00 - [23] - Quote Well, theres still big reasons to have SP, its mostly the cooldown times making you much safer, especially using cycled shield hardeners or armor hardeners against AV. Of course cycled hardeners can't protect against damage modded railguns, but still they remove any and all chance of you being killed by AV as long as you don't have down syndrome. Other than that, having the extra slot for tanks is great and having the proto turrets puts you far above MLT tanks. But generally, yes, the reward for using a 500k isk tank is usually pointless compared to a 70k isk MLT tank w/ a blaster. Its pretty much best to use Somas with scanners and blasters vs infantry since you're vulnerable to railguns while killing infantry anyways, so the 70k isk tank is preferred. While if you're hunting tanks a triple damage mod or double damage mod 1 hardener gunnlogi particle cannon is preferred, since you'll be aware of and looking for tanks, meaning the risk is lower while the extra damage from the SP & isk of your real tank makes it MUCH easier then. That's "MR." Pothead to you.
Harpyja Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1090	Posted - 2014.01.16 05:48:00 - [24] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: Atiim wrote: They actually invested SP and ISK into their role. I take offence to this! :P Some of us have been tankers (And the old LLAV drivers) since before 1.7. We used to HAVE to have skills into tanks to even be marginally effective. And that's how it should be. Not this crap where there's almost no SP gap. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3553	Posted - 2014.01.17 03:10:00 - [25] - Quote Harpyja wrote: ANON Cerberus wrote: Atiim wrote: They actually invested SP and ISK into their role. I take offence to this! :P Some of us have been tankers (And the old LLAV drivers) since before 1.7. We used to HAVE to have skills into tanks to even be marginally effective. And that's how it should be. Not this crap where there's almost no SP gap. Well, while I do believe that SP investment needs to matter, Actual Skill > SP needs to be a thing as well. It's the Railguns that are the real problem. but nerfing them removes the only reliable counter against HAVs with cycled hardeners. Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock *FORGE MASTER RACE*
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc League of Infamy 692	Posted - 2014.01.17 03:13:00 - [26] - Quote Atiim wrote: The Attorney General wrote: So what your saying is that proto swarms should do the same damage as MLT? Gotcha. Nope. I'm just messing around. What I'm saying is that besides Missile Turrets you must regret actually spending SP knowing that a MLT vehicle can do it just as well, while being virtually ISK/SP cost free. So you ***** finally see why tank spam is a thing? Wow, amazing "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___**^
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3553	Posted - 2014.01.17 03:18:00 - [27] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: So you ***** finally see why tank spam is a thing? Wow, amazing Dude, I've always known why tank spam is a thing. That was pretty obvious after I checked the Skill Tree. However, that doesn't mean that vehicles with SP invested aren't overpowered either; in fact the shorter cooldowns and longer duration makes them even worse than the MLT vehicles. Not that cooldown really means anything when everyone and their dogs just recall before the cooldown timer expires Which brings me right back to where we were before you made your obvious comment that was had almost no relevance whatsoever. Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock FORGE MASTER RACE**
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3555	Posted - 2014.01.17 03:22:00 - [28] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: I think my favorite poster in the entire forums is the one who once said that (most) tankers flunked kindergarten Wow, that actually sounds like something I would say. Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock *FORGE MASTER RACE*
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc League of Infamy 697	Posted - 2014.01.17 03:42:00 - [29] - Quote Atiim wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: So you ***** finally see why tank spam is a thing? Wow, amazing Dude, I've always known why tank spam is a thing. That was pretty obvious after I checked the Skill Tree. However, that doesn't mean that vehicles with SP invested aren't overpowered either; in fact the shorter cooldowns and longer duration makes them even worse than the MLT vehicles. Not that cooldown really means anything when everyone and their dogs just recall before the cooldown timer expires Which brings me right back to where we were before you made your obvious comment that was had almost no relevance whatsoever. But they also cost more, far more in fact. plus, once the active modules go down, they're useless. and alpha damage makes sure of that. IAFG's still destray Maddy's, I can report on that, not from the receiving end, but the giving end. You know how I feel about Wiki swarms. And I've seen people use adv. AV to easily kill HAV's, with said people saying that PROTO is too much still (really, the only reason why I use PROTO is faster killing time, and that helps with killing then repositing to kill the next 3 before that one returns). so no, having them have different active times and cooldowns does jack . What does is the fact that they all have the same damn percentage for active ones, and tat needs to change. CAll me an elitest all you like, I could give 0 fucks. Still needs to change. So yes, it actually does. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___**^
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc League of Infamy 697	Posted - 2014.01.17 03:44:00 - [30] - Quote Atiim wrote: [quote=RuckingFetard]I think my favorite poster in the entire forums is the one who once said that (most) tankers flunked kindergarten Oh, for a second I thought I was going to have to figure out who that was and give him a earfull, then rip you a new one for agreeing with him. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^

Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1641	Posted - 2014.01.17 04:46:00 - [31] - Quote Holy fu90king shut, atiim. You suck at this game and everybody and their mother are aware. You don't have any SP in tanks OR AV bc when i pull a tank, you hide in the redline like a scrub. Then when you do come out with your (used to be OP) duvolle, you go 2/9 because you suck. Seriously. Stop posting, you no-skill scrub. You need to go the fu8k back to cod where ****-fu8ks like you belong and quit clogging our forums with bul1shit. Thanks for reading, biy7ch. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 2155	Posted - 2014.01.17 05:05:00 - [32] - Quote For rails, STD are much better, especially with an ADV rail or higher. Glass cannon Sica can 3HKO armor, I can 2HKO armor and extended shield tanks. With a Particle Cannon, you can hit the same DPS with one amp as a Sica with two and end up with two extra slots to defend yourself or stack more damage. Blaster Madrugars are much more durable than blaster Somas, which almost always have a repper and hardener, leaving them with little overall tank in TvT. Blaster Gunnlogis can cycle forever or use the 3rd slot for a booster/extender to negate preempts and tank through Forge Guns. It's not all bad. The price scales poorly but there are benefits. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
Harpyja Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1111	Posted - 2014.01.17 05:11:00 - [33] - Quote Atiim wrote: Harpyja wrote: ANON Cerberus wrote: Atiim wrote: They actually invested SP and ISK into their role. I take offence to this! :P Some of us have been tankers (And the old LLAV drivers) since before 1.7. We used to HAVE to have skills into tanks to even be marginally effective. And that's how it should be. Not this crap where there's almost no SP gap. Well, while I do believe that SP investment needs to matter, Actual Skill > SP needs to be a thing as well. It's the Railguns that are the real problem. but nerfing them removes the only reliable counter against HAVs with cycled hardeners. I agree that there should always be actual skill involved in addition to SP. I think 1.6 had a good balance between SP investment and actual player skill. Now in 1.7, there's almost no SP investment and player skill is laughable. Everyone can just get a Sica with militia railgun, damage mod, and shield hardener and charge at an enemy tank while holding R1 after having activated the modules. There's absolutely no skill involved, and if you lose, it only sets you back about 70k ISK. Countering such a tank requires too much skill and effort in comparison. You have to create an ambush plan, avoid detection, and strike when modules are off or on cooldown, and possibly even having to have a squad member to provide the enemy tank's position constantly or to scan it down with a scanner. And when that's done, you've only destroyed 70k ISK that will more than likely be called in again to bite you in the ***. I enjoy the challenge of facing a railgun Soma with my missile Gunnlogi, and maybe even railgun Madrugars (I've barely managed to destroy them many times as I am put into armor and making a dash for my redline), but railgun Sicas require too much effort, comparatively, to bring down because they only have to pop their hardener and I can no longer kill them with one volley. And railgun Gunnlogis are just a nightmare because of the fact that they are too good at CQC for what is meant to be a ranged weapon, and the effort required to outmaneuver them is just too much when compared to what they have to do: charge headfirst and hold R1. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Awesome Pantaloons Lokapalas. 235	Posted - 2014.01.17 05:16:00 - [34] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Holy fu90king shut, atiim. You suck at this game and everybody and their mother are aware. You don't have any SP in tanks OR AV bc when i pull a tank, you hide in the redline like a scrub. Then when you do come out with your (used to be OP) duvolle, you go 2/9 because you suck. Seriously. Stop posting, you no-skill scrub. You need to go the fu8k back to cod where ****-fu8ks like you belong and quit clogging our forums with bul1shit. Thanks for reading, biy7ch. I love you "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Jason Pearson 3966	Posted - 2014.01.17 05:38:00 - [35] - Quote lol non skilled tanks. They die very quckly. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire \\ Bad Mathematician You're a total git, Jason. - kingbabar
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3570	Posted - 2014.01.17 05:52:00 - [36] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Holy fu90king shut, atiim. You suck at this game and everybody and their mother are aware. You don't have any SP in tanks OR AV bc when i pull a tank, you hide in the redline like a scrub. Then when you do come out with your (used to be OP) duvolle, you go 2/9 because you suck. Seriously. Stop posting, you no-skill scrub. You need to go the fu8k back to cod where **-fu8ks like you belong and quit clogging our forums with bul1shit. Thanks for reading, biy7ch. I could go type up three paragraphs about how almost everything you just said is complete and utter bull$#!t (except I no longer have SP into tanks, that part is true); but you seem mad bro. Are you mad bro? ((Then again, most tankers always get mad when someone other than a WoT fanboy speaks the truth. Most of them don't like the truth. But I guess someone has to do it right?) Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock FORGE MASTER RACE**
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3570	Posted - 2014.01.17 05:53:00 - [37] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Holy fu90king shut, atiim. You suck at this game and everybody and their mother are aware. You don't have any SP in tanks OR AV bc when i pull a tank, you hide in the redline like a scrub. Then when you do come out with your (used to be OP) duvolle, you go 2/9 because you suck. Seriously. Stop posting, you no-skill scrub. You need to go the fu8k back to cod where ***-fu8ks like you belong and quit clogging our forums with bul1shit. Thanks for reading, biy7ch. I love you Bro Hug* :D Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock *FORGE MASTER RACE*
Rusty Shallows 814	Posted - 2014.01.17 05:58:00 - [38] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Whatever happened to that implied rule not to insult an entire class of players in your OP? We lost that towards the end of Chromesome. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP


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