Seems like a completely different paradigm than what we have now; though I don't play EVE, this layout seems to mesh better with how skills and ships and fittings work in that game.
It is a good bit more complicated, and my only concern is that it might raise the barrier of entry to the point that, like EVE, a new player would be utterly lost without the help of a corp and several hours of study in wikis and on youtube.

With tiericide, what suits will we have? Ones that look like their standard variant, or their prototype variants?

I don't like the idea for tierecide on suits. I think it would make it more dull.

Where do BPO's fit in this master plan?

As manufacturing devices.

Hey, sorry off topic, but free bump.

I take back the mean things I ever said to you. You are right, about Takahiro Kashuken, sense isn't a strong point of his. Sorry fella.

I like the idea. But whether or not Tiericide is the answer, I do believe CCP needs to do something about the PRO Frame suits, which are simultaneously more expensive and have less bonuses.

More like This is what it would do to dropsuits in DUST.

Yet again a fix because everyone plays public high security matches because there isn't anything else to do.

A Giant waste of time for a problem that exists for a completely different reason.

Since people can't read.

Before Tiericide

With Captions

After Tiericide

Another one in document format https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqHgiF-KXQZXdHRRekNzRFppTTloVmJjQ2xJb1VOTkE&usp=drive_web#gid=3

(and yes I realized I need to find an image hosting service without annoying advertisements)
Edit : Yes I noticed the link slot on the pre tiericide being a typo sorry; and no the slots are theorycrafting from flipping the minmatar suit over...)

As you can see this gets rid of climbing up the tree overall but now breaks out into branching the tree out to more interesting branches. Militia -> Basic Tech 1 -> Advanced Tech 2 as you can notice is losing slots as it goes up but it trades it for additional specialized bonuses.

Suits start off with meager fittings when you train their suit command to 1, but as you train up command skills for the specific suits that need it to operate you will be then getting more fitting, and more bonuses thus allows you to develop and specialize the suit further.

Also under Tiericide 'type 2 and type 3s' return and are a part of the logical progression where type 2 and 3s are not better just different dice rolled for the same class.

Tech 1s get tech 2 previews of the suits as you can notice one class is suited to being a pilot, one a scout, and one a spec ops by slot layouts alone.

Milita (not shown) post tiericide has 'fixed bonuses' and does not gain anything per level and fitting overall is pretty low despite having the highest number of slots verses its tech 1 cousin. While powerful for a rookie at the start once the rookie starts investing into the skill of the amarr light around lvl 2 and 3 the tech 1 suits start to outperform the militia suit in terms of fitting then bonuses.

Despite this none of the suits get obsoleted by skill training as the captioned pre tiericide cuts out clearly. A maxed out amarr light operator can still effectively use the tech 1 suits to a great advantage and would currently achieve the 'going cheaper' motif the current specialist advanced suits enjoy. While tech 2 is for going 'pro'. The only reason not to use a certain suit on any of these post tiericide trees is the simple fact its not your play style, some people like their sidearms some don't care to lose it for a second equipment slot.

And yes the three tech 1 suits will have different models under the new tiericide when art allows for it.

For those of you wondering this was taken from my Dust 2.0 project, part of the 'tech tree' while rather mostly incomplete you can see how things progress through the tech tree. I wont have time to answer everything though as 1 the tree is incomplete and two the answers are going to require another document the inventory which has full descriptors.

This is mostly for my own self reference.

References:
Tech Tree (Work in Progress)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqHgiF-KXQZXdDdKYjRQT193VDlfbFM5b0FwdlB5Ymc&usp=drive_web#gid=3

Dust 2.0 Project
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=126376

Since people can't read.

Before Tiericide

With Captions

After Tiericide

Another one in document format https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqHgiF-KXQZXdHRRekNzRFppTTloVmJjQ2xJb1VOTkE&usp=drive_web#gid=3

(and yes I realized I need to find an image hosting service without annoying advertisements)
Edit : Yes I noticed the link slot on the pre tiericide being a typo sorry; and no the slots are theorycrafting from flipping the minmatar suit over...)

As you can see this gets rid of climbing up the tree overall but now breaks out into branching the tree out to more interesting branches. Militia -> Basic Tech 1 -> Advanced Tech 2 as you can notice is losing slots as it goes up but it trades it for additional specialized bonuses.

Suits start off with meager fittings when you train their suit command to 1, but as you train up command skills for the specific suits that need it to operate you will be then getting more fitting, and more bonuses thus allows you to develop and specialize the suit further.

Also under Tiericide 'type 2 and type 3s' return and are a part of the logical progression where type 2 and 3s are not better just different dice rolled for the same class.

Tech 1s get tech 2 previews of the suits as you can notice one class is suited to being a pilot, one a scout, and one a spec ops by slot layouts alone.

Milita (not shown) post tiericide has 'fixed bonuses' and does not gain anything per level and fitting overall is pretty low despite having the highest number of slots verses its tech 1 cousin. While powerful for a rookie at the start once the rookie starts investing into the skill of the amarr light around lvl 2 and 3 the tech 1 suits start to outperform the militia suit in terms of fitting then bonuses.

Despite this none of the suits get obsoleted by skill training as the captioned pre tiericide cuts out clearly. A maxed out amarr light operator can still effectively use the tech 1 suits to a great advantage and would currently achieve the 'going cheaper' motif the current specialist advanced suits enjoy. While tech 2 is for going 'pro'. The only reason not to use a certain suit on any of these post tiericide trees is the simple fact its not your play style, some people like their sidearms some don't care to lose it for a second equipment slot.

And yes the three tech 1 suits will have different models under the new tiericide when art allows for it.

For those of you wondering this was taken from my Dust 2.0 project, part of the 'tech tree' while rather mostly incomplete you can see how things progress through the tech tree. I wont have time to answer everything though as 1 the tree is incomplete and two the answers are going to require another document the inventory which has full descriptors.

This is mostly for my own self reference.

References:
Tech Tree (Work in Progress)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqHgiF-KXQZXdDdKYjRQT193VDlfbFM5b0FwdlB5Ymc&usp=drive_web#gid=3

Dust 2.0 Project
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=126376

people apparently cant spell, either
Please edit your post and fix; it's driving me nuts

"Tiericide"


Also,when posting images that include text, please use png, not jpg. Lossy compression makes for fuzzy text :(

Lets say this magically solves all of the 'balance' problems as you see them, after tiericide how does the economics of suits work?

Will light suit v.1 be as cheap/expensive as light suit v.3?

If I'm accumulating larger piles of isk, what am I generally spending it on? If the grade of equipment doesn't exponentially increase my isk cost to field it, where does my isk go? Does it just pile up? When I can choose a 1k isk suit, a 10k isk suit, and a 100k isk suit, then a 200k isk payout means something substantial.

When/if all suits are similarly only specifically useful and similarly priced:

1) How does that effect the entry cost of suits-the price new players are paying to be competitive in them?
2) Are you going to assume that most of the cost of fits will lie in module fitting now?
3) Proponents of tiericide propose that suit bonuses rather than module fits will determine the uniqueness of different suit types/roles...what does this mean for the uniqueness of how each one is fit?

What I haven't heard from the tiericide folks is the approach tiericide will take toward the faucet:sink relationship that current STD>ADV>PRO gear has set up. The current tiers forces a significant relationship between cost and profit per match based on how strong of a suit you field.


The reason there is so much isk in the game at the moment has much less to do with tier/dropsuit balance and much more to do with the design of PC and the salvage rebates with Chromosome/Uprising. It is statistically impossible for everyone to eventually be running proto AND profit unless they all are just walking around in the game and not shooting each other.

Tl;DR: STD>ADV>PRO largely exists as an economic disincentive against fielding higher tier gear because pub match profit is so low. Please explain the micro/macro economic/cost/profit/incentive side of tiericide. Otherwise, I think this idea leads to an unsustainable and ultimately boring system.