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Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3449	Posted - 2014.01.14 14:00:00 - [1] - Quote And here's why: I tanked through a Forge and 3 Swarms without hardners. Tanks are only bad in the hands of those who don't know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who don't know how to drive, nor how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. 600k to the first person who realizes what I did here. Atiim (Wyrikomi Swarm Launcher) Tank Spammer Tank Spammer (Soma - MLT 80GJ Blaster) Atiim And this is why I drink.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 779	Posted - 2014.01.14 14:03:00 - [2] - Quote I'd expect the ISK when i get online tonight ?! I need to get me 5 Soma's with that
8213 0uter.Heaven 1331	Posted - 2014.01.14 14:06:00 - [3] - Quote You referenced, Kenny Rogers. For that, CCP should double the effectivness of tanks. Fish in a bucket!
PEW JACKSON Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 183	Posted - 2014.01.14 14:08:00 - [4] - Quote Atiim wrote: And here's why: I tanked through a Forge and 3 Swarms without hardners. Tanks are only bad in the hands of those who don't know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who don't know how to drive, nor how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. 600k to the first person who realizes what I did here. 3 shield extenders Dead on the ground.... Think I made a wrong turn :/
poison Diego NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 283	Posted - 2014.01.14 14:12:00 - [5] - Quote Atiim wrote: And here's why: I tanked through a Forge and 3 Swarms without hardners. Tanks are only bad in the hands of those who don't know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who don't know how to drive, nor how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. 600k to the first person who realizes what I did here. Hahahaha if you want to take out a tank you need to be determined, and have a squad. I was fighting Rainbow effect's qsync yesterday and they WERE determined.. (remotes, 2xAV grenaders, 1xTaz, 2 xforge, 1xswarms and ALOT of nanohives all proto.) yea...they got me a few times....sniff SUCK ON MY BIG BLACK BASIC BLASTER WELCOME TO WORLDofTANKz514 (put your seatbelts on, ITs GONNA BE A BUMPY RIDE!!)
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3451	Posted - 2014.01.14 14:15:00 - [6] - Quote poison Diego wrote: Hahahaha if you want to take out a tank you need to be determined, and have a squad. I was fighting Rainbow effect's qsync yesterday and they WERE determined.. (remotes, 2xAV grenaders, 1xTaz, 2 xforge, 1xswarms and ALOT of nanohives all proto.) yea...they got me a few times....sniff That seems like ALOT of effort for just one person. They should've just grabbed a tank. Atiim (Wyrikomi Swarm Launcher) Tank Spammer Tank Spammer (Soma - MLT 80GJ Blaster) Atiim And this is why I drink.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 780	Posted - 2014.01.14 14:28:00 - [7] - Quote Atiim wrote: poison Diego wrote: Hahahaha if you want to take out a tank you need to be determined, and have a squad. I was fighting Rainbow effect's qsync yesterday and they WERE determined.. (remotes, 2xAV grenaders, 1xTaz, 2 xforge, 1xswarms and ALOT of nanohives all proto.) yea...they got me a few times....sniff That seems like ALOT of effort for just one person. They should've just grabbed a tank. I wonder what the rest of the 15 red dots were doing ?!
Jason Pearson 3898	Posted - 2014.01.14 14:47:00 - [8] - Quote Armor or Shields Standard or Militia? King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire \\ Bad Mathematician You're a total git, Jason. - Kingbabar
Chaos Scum Warcaste 5	Posted - 2014.01.14 14:48:00 - [9] - Quote Atiim wrote: And here's why: I tanked through a Forge and 3 Swarms without hardners. Tanks are only bad in the hands of those who don't know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who don't know how to drive, nor how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. 600k to the first person who realizes what I did here. Kenny rogers the gambler
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 808	Posted - 2014.01.14 14:50:00 - [10] - Quote Confirming tanks are OP as f*ck. That's "MR." Pothead to you.

Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 1081	Posted - 2014.01.14 14:51:00 - [11] - Quote Nah I was caught out in the open trying to chase down a Soma with my hardener on cooldown and an IAFG popped me open. Nerf forge guns! "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 783	Posted - 2014.01.14 17:54:00 - [12] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Confirming tanks are OP as f*ck. That ^
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 607	Posted - 2014.01.14 18:00:00 - [13] - Quote Are we trying to guess your fit? I'm guessing Maddy with plate and 2 heavy reps. Dropship Specialist Kills- Incubus: 4; Pythons: 1; Other DS: 28 Gêå1; Tanks: 27 Gêå2 1/1
Awesome Pantaloons Lokapalas. 228	Posted - 2014.01.14 18:54:00 - [14] - Quote lol Oh Ati, you so funny. Whatever happened to vids or it didn't happen? :P "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5666	Posted - 2014.01.14 18:56:00 - [15] - Quote Atiim wrote: And here's why: I tanked through a Forge and 3 Swarms without hardners. Tanks are only bad in the hands of those who don't know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who don't know how to drive, nor how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. 600k to the first person who realizes what I did here. MLT gear at best though I don't dispute that. Though it really depends on the fit Atiim. If you were going for max rep rates them perhaps you could survive a barrage like that. "Face the enemy as a solid wall. For faith is your armour and through it, the enemy will find no breach" -Askura 10:3
Awesome Pantaloons Lokapalas. 228	Posted - 2014.01.14 19:01:00 - [16] - Quote Atiim wrote: And here's why: I tanked through a Forge and 3 Swarms without hardners. Tanks are only bad in the hands of those who don't know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who don't know how to drive, nor how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. That being said, I obviously do know what I'm doing and used a tank fit just for such an occasion because I can't stand to have my personal opinions opposed. No one else is entitled to an opinion that contradicts mine, because I am an elite player that can never be wrong. 600k to the first person who realizes what I did here. Fixed that for you. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Awesome Pantaloons Lokapalas. 228	Posted - 2014.01.14 19:02:00 - [17] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: And here's why: I tanked through a Forge and 3 Swarms without hardners. Tanks are only bad in the hands of those who don't know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who don't know how to drive, nor how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. 600k to the first person who realizes what I did here. MLT gear at best though I don't dispute that. Though it really depends on the fit Atiim. If you were going for max rep rates them perhaps you could survive a barrage like that. Adamance, your words of wisdom bring a tear to my eye. "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." -The Code of Demeanor
Goric Rumis Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 312	Posted - 2014.01.14 19:20:00 - [18] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: And here's why: I tanked through a Forge and 3 Swarms without hardners. Tanks are only bad in the hands of those who don't know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who don't know how to drive, nor how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. 600k to the first person who realizes what I did here. MLT gear at best though I don't dispute that. Though it really depends on the fit Atiim. If you were going for max rep rates them perhaps you could survive a barrage like that. Adamance, your words of wisdom bring a tear to my eye. What do you have to sacrifice to be able to tank that much damage? I haven't messed with vehicle fittings much beyond MLT, so I'm not that familiar. EDIT: Also, obviously my post about fallacies applies to this thread, but of course you're parodying. The Tank Balancing Factor No One Is Discussing
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 270	Posted - 2014.01.14 19:26:00 - [19] - Quote My heavy tanked a shotgun blast and 3 scrm pistol shots, heavys are OP
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 785	Posted - 2014.01.15 14:05:00 - [20] - Quote Beck Weathers wrote: My heavy tanked a shotgun blast and 3 scrm pistol shots, heavys are OP Winner ?!

Harpyja Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1087	Posted - 2014.01.15 14:24:00 - [21] - Quote Beck Weathers wrote: My heavy tanked a shotgun blast and 3 scrm pistol shots, heavys are OP I once hit a medium suit with a direct hit from a small railgun and didn't die. Medium suits are OP! "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
CELTIC TARON Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 15	Posted - 2014.01.15 14:36:00 - [22] - Quote Atiim wrote: And here's why: I tanked through a Forge and 3 Swarms without hardners. Tanks are only bad in the hands of those who don't know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who don't know how to drive, nor how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. 600k to the first person who realizes what I did here. Not hard 3X complex armor reps on a maddy reps for 525 per second. or a second option would be 3X Complex shield extenders killing everything that hit you then simply regening it back quickly. The most plauseable though is option 1 given I'v ran that one myself and tanked more than what he did lol. It's pretty much infantry proof you have to pull a W. Breech FG or Tank to kill it :p PC Tanker AND PROUD! Especially When I Shove A Missile Up Your Arse! Yes Militia need adjusted Long Live Tanks :)
Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 3574	Posted - 2014.01.15 14:39:00 - [23] - Quote I survived an orbital and 3 swarms in a militia tank, without actives. How? I parked under some pipes and behind a pillar, yet the dumbasses still tried to shoot through them. We used to have a time machine
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 428	Posted - 2014.01.15 14:53:00 - [24] - Quote Ran a double hardened missiles fit yesterday, N tanked through an OB, swarmers (A **** load), forgers, naders, you name it. Nuff Said
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 428	Posted - 2014.01.15 14:54:00 - [25] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I survived an orbital and 3 swarms in a militia tank, without actives. How? I parked under some pipes and behind a pillar, yet the dumbasses still tried to shoot through them. Pics or it didnt happen. (because I know that is not possible from personal experience, if the OB is actually hitting you!) Nuff Said
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3488	Posted - 2014.01.15 14:55:00 - [26] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I survived an orbital and 3 swarms in a militia tank, without actives. How? I parked under some pipes and behind a pillar, yet the dumbasses still tried to shoot through them. Pics or it didnt happen. (because I know that is not possible from personal experience, if the OB is actually hitting you!) It wasn't hitting him. He's saying that he took cover under some pipes :P Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock Have I won the Forums Yet?
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1637	Posted - 2014.01.16 01:57:00 - [27] - Quote Atiim, you don't tank. You don't AV. Your infantry game is awful. You're probably the blueberry in Cal FW making us lose. Please stop playing Dust and go back to CoD- it has no tanks. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3511	Posted - 2014.01.16 02:30:00 - [28] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Atiim, you don't tank. You don't AV. Your infantry game is awful. You're probably the blueberry in Cal FW making us lose. Please stop playing Dust and go back to CoD- it has no tanks. We really need to squad up sometime then if you really believe anything of what you just said. Except maybe that part about Caldari FW. It's hard lugging 620 armor when you don't have an LAV because the Vehicle Quota has been reached Also, since you think your so much better than me at AV, how about you hop our of your silly tank and use a Swarm Launcher or Plasma Cannon against a tank. Let's see how much better than me you could do. Until then, quit pretending as if you even have a remote clue of what your talking about. Go back to COD? I've never even played CoD, and why would I want vehicles removed? So I can kill the AV class? ~~Try~~ Troll Again? Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock *FORGE MASTER RACE*
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5770	Posted - 2014.01.16 02:47:00 - [29] - Quote Goric Rumis wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: And here's why: I tanked through a Forge and 3 Swarms without hardners. Tanks are only bad in the hands of those who don't know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who don't know how to drive, nor how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. 600k to the first person who realizes what I did here. MLT gear at best though I don't dispute that. Though it really depends on the fit Atiim. If you were going for max rep rates them perhaps you could survive a barrage like that. Adamance, your words of wisdom bring a tear to my eye. What do you have to sacrifice to be able to tank that much damage? I haven't messed with vehicle fittings much beyond MLT, so I'm not that familiar. EDIT: Also, obviously my post about fallacies applies to this thread, but of course you're parodying. Resistance Timers depending on the tank type you lessen your window of effective shield and armour resistance to gain rapid reps. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
The Attorney General 1758	Posted - 2014.01.16 03:26:00 - [30] - Quote Atiim wrote: Also, since you think your so much better than me at AV, how about you hop our of your silly tank and use a Swarm Launcher or Plasma Cannon against a tank. Let's see how much better than me you could do. Why use an imitation when you can use real AV. Fat suit and a forge. Atiim's invincible MLT tank would go pop so fast his head would spin. Except he would be hiding in the redline with a railgun, because he could never accept that someone he needs to pretend is bad at AV is much, much better at it than he is. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.

Kara Anschel Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 5	Posted - 2014.01.16 03:43:00 - [31] - Quote I got bored and decided to go tanking. Picked up a MLT tank and started rolling around. I haven't died yet. Any solo AV I just run from and most swarms can be lured into walls. Also, Adamance I love you. I still remember gunning for you in a pub match and going 37/0. Pantaloons why did you leave us....
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3521	Posted - 2014.01.16 03:47:00 - [32] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Atiim wrote: Also, since you think your so much better than me at AV, how about you hop our of your silly tank and use a Swarm Launcher or Plasma Cannon against a tank. Let's see how much better than me you could do. Why use an imitation when you can use real AV. Fat suit and a forge. Atiim's invincible MLT tank would go pop so fast his head would spin. Except he would be hiding in the redline with a railgun, because he could never accept that someone he needs to pretend is bad at AV is much, much better at it than he is. Oh you again. I guess you came to spread your FORGE MASTER RACE ideal here too huh? And I told him (her?) to use a Plasma Cannon or Swarm Launcher because Forge Guns are better in every aspect possible, while I have no access to Forge Guns on my main; meaning s/he would obviously win simply because of superior gear. However if s/he uses the weapon that s/he claims that I suck at, we would get an accurate view of weather or not s/he is better than me with it. Just like if I said you sucked at using Gunnlogies and you challenged that, would it really be an accurate assessment of who was better at it if I used a Madrugar? I don't need to pretend anything. If your going to say that I suck at using a weapon, then either prove that you can use said weapon better than I can; or sit back down at the kiddie table making baseless insults that have no weight or credibility behind them. And it wouldn't even matter if you popped my tank. I could easily call in 7 more. Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock *FORGE MASTER RACE*
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 791	Posted - 2014.01.16 14:47:00 - [33] - Quote Atiim wrote: Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Atiim, you don't tank. You don't AV. Your infantry game is awful. You're probably the blueberry in Cal FW making us lose. Please stop playing Dust and go back to CoD- it has no tanks. We really need to squad up sometime then if you really believe anything of what you just said. Except maybe that part about Caldari FW. It's hard lugging 620 armor when you don't have an LAV because the Vehicle Quota has been reached Also, since you think your so much better than me at AV, how about you hop our of your silly tank and use a Swarm Launcher or Plasma Cannon against a tank. Let's see how much better than me you could do. Until then, quit pretending as if you even have a remote clue of what your talking about. Go back to COD? I've never even played CoD, and why would I want vehicles removed? So I can kill the AV class? ~~Try~~ Troll Again? \ Charlotte can take two other from here too. Make it a Swarm Team. I'd like them to run a 3 man swarm team, beat the tanks and win the game at the same time....
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3536	Posted - 2014.01.16 15:05:00 - [34] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Charlotte can take two other from here too. Make it a Swarm Team. I'd like them to run a 3 man swarm team, beat the tanks and win the game at the same time.... Yes. I find it funny how they say AV is easy or fine, yet they still haven't taken KingBabar's challenge. But I'd gladly see their Swarm team. They'd fail miserably and then make up an excuse saying "Well you scrubs should've skilled into heavies with Forges." Though I doubt that they even believe what their saying. Otherwise they would've gone to the Scout Registry and said HTFU and skill into Medium Frames by now. Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock *FORGE MASTER RACE*
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1038	Posted - 2014.01.16 15:05:00 - [35] - Quote Atiim wrote: And here's why: I tanked through a Forge and 3 Swarms without hardners. Tanks are only bad in the hands of those who don't know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who don't know how to drive, nor how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. 600k to the first person who realizes what I did here. That would be an armor tank. A shield tank can't hold up against that very well and if so, for far less an amount of time before having to run off for a cooldown. I see what you did though. It's a non sequitur. You just admitted to doing what anybody could do and yet claim that only someone who knows more about tanking could have done that. Therefore, you are a bad tanker but still came out on top. Either that or you quoted Kenny Rogers. I like poker. I play tanks the same way. Tanking really is just Texas Hold 'Em. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 792	Posted - 2014.01.16 15:20:00 - [36] - Quote Atiim wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Charlotte can take two other from here too. Make it a Swarm Team. I'd like them to run a 3 man swarm team, beat the tanks and win the game at the same time.... Yes. I find it funny how they say AV is easy or fine, yet they still haven't taken KingBabar's challenge. But I'd gladly see their Swarm team. They'd fail miserably and then make up an excuse saying "Well you scrubs should've skilled into heavies with Forges." Though I doubt that they even believe what their saying. Otherwise they would've gone to the Scout Registry and said HTFU and skill into Medium Frames by now. I had a similar MSG from them yesterday: AV is Fine... I Spent the entire game swarming them. Didn't even tickle. I get another MSG : You are an incompetent Swarmer. I'd agree to that. But then again, can't expect me to be within 10 meters of an invincible blaster tank with lolSwarms!!!!
The Attorney General 1765	Posted - 2014.01.16 15:59:00 - [37] - Quote Atiim wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Atiim wrote: Also, since you think your so much better than me at AV, how about you hop our of your silly tank and use a Swarm Launcher or Plasma Cannon against a tank. Let's see how much better than me you could do. Why use an imitation when you can use real AV. Fat suit and a forge. Atiim's invincible MLT tank would go pop so fast his head would spin. Except he would be hiding in the redline with a railgun, because he could never accept that someone he needs to pretend is bad at AV is much, much better at it than he is. Oh you again. I guess you came to spread your FORGE MASTER RACE ideal here too huh? And I told him (her?) to use a Plasma Cannon or Swarm Launcher because Forge Guns are better in every aspect possible, while I have no access to Forge Guns on my main; meaning s/he would obviously win simply because of superior gear. However if s/he uses the weapon that s/he claims that I suck at, we would get an accurate view of weather or not s/he is better than me with it. Just like if I said you sucked at using Gunnlogies and you challenged that, would it really be an accurate assessment of who was better at it if I used a Madrugar? I don't need to pretend anything. If your going to say that I suck at using a weapon, then either prove that you can use said weapon better than I can; or sit back down at the kiddie table making baseless insults that have no weight or credibility behind them. And it wouldn't even matter if you popped my tank. I could easily call in 7 more. So you want people to save up 10 milion SP to dump into swarms to prove you suck? Seems reasonable. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
The Attorney General 1765	Posted - 2014.01.16 16:04:00 - [38] - Quote Atiim wrote: And I told him (her?) to use a Plasma Cannon or Swarm Launcher because Forge Guns are better in every aspect possible, while I have no access to Forge Guns on my main; meaning s/he would obviously win simply because of superior gear. Lower RoF, limited ammo, longer pre-fire sequence, and it is on the fat suit. I don't see how the forge is better in every aspect. Most maybe, but not every. Then again, you have never been one for making accurate statements. Everything is always hyperbole with you. BTW, saying that you have no access to forge guns is a complete lie. Everyone has access to at the very least MLT forge and MLT heavy frame. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 170	Posted - 2014.01.16 16:33:00 - [39] - Quote CCP needs to make it where we can immobilize a tank by damaging its tracks. Then tankers won't be able to scurry away like cockroaches.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3541	Posted - 2014.01.16 16:39:00 - [40] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: So you want people to save up 10 milion SP to dump into swarms to prove you suck? Seems reasonable. Seems a lot more reasonable then you telling everyone to dump 15mil SP into PRO Heavies with Maxed out Forge Guns. Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock *FORGE MASTER RACE*

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3541	Posted - 2014.01.16 16:46:00 - [41] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Lower RoF, limited ammo, longer pre-fire sequence, and it is on the fat suit. I don't see how the forge is better in every aspect. Most maybe, but not every. Then again, you have never been one for making accurate statements. Everything is always hyperbole with you. BTW, saying that you have no access to forge guns is a complete lie. Everyone has access to at the very least MLT forge and MLT heavy frame. That's why I said theoretically. The PROs far outweigh the cons, while being the best at all aspects that count. Being no a Fat Suit is actually a plus. It means you can actually turn around and kill the guy shooting you, along with being able to survive a hit from Ion Cannons. And your statements are accurate? I've yet to see one that isn't either ad-hominem or a Double Standard. (Or both for that matter). Swarms suck, but with 10mil SP my Swarms do more damage than a MLT Forge gun. That's counter-productive. ALSO: Lower ROF doesn't really matter when you have extreme Damage. Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock *FORGE MASTER RACE*
The Attorney General 1765	Posted - 2014.01.16 16:47:00 - [42] - Quote Atiim wrote: The Attorney General wrote: So you want people to save up 10 milion SP to dump into swarms to prove you suck? Seems reasonable. Seems a lot more reasonable then you telling everyone to dump 15mil SP into PRO Heavies with Maxed out Forge Guns. What? 310k sp for an ADV assault FG 0k SP for a MLT fat suit. 15 mill? Stop being a scrub. Even if someone wanted to go all nuts with speccing forges, getting to prof 5 takes 3.1 mill, then you only need 273k for an advanced heavy frame to fit 2x complex damage mods. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 335	Posted - 2014.01.16 16:49:00 - [43] - Quote Atiim wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Atiim wrote: Also, since you think your so much better than me at AV, how about you hop our of your silly tank and use a Swarm Launcher or Plasma Cannon against a tank. Let's see how much better than me you could do. Why use an imitation when you can use real AV. Fat suit and a forge. Atiim's invincible MLT tank would go pop so fast his head would spin. Except he would be hiding in the redline with a railgun, because he could never accept that someone he needs to pretend is bad at AV is much, much better at it than he is. Oh you again. I guess you came to spread your FORGE MASTER RACE ideal here too huh? And I told him (her?) to use a Plasma Cannon or Swarm Launcher because Forge Guns are better in every aspect possible, while I have no access to Forge Guns on my main; meaning s/he would obviously win simply because of superior gear. However if s/he uses the weapon that s/he claims that I suck at, we would get an accurate view of weather or not s/he is better than me with it. Just like if I said you sucked at using Gunnlogies and you challenged that, would it really be an accurate assessment of who was better at it if I used a Madrugar? I don't need to pretend anything. If your going to say that I suck at using a weapon, then either prove that you can use said weapon better than I can; or sit back down at the kiddie table making baseless insults that have no weight or credibility behind them. And it wouldn't even matter if you popped my tank. I could easily call in 7 more. Pffftt... I can call 48 more GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Dalmont Legrand 237	Posted - 2014.01.16 16:51:00 - [44] - Quote Atiim wrote: And here's why: I tanked through a Forge and 3 Swarms without hardners. Tanks are only bad in the hands of those who don't know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who don't know how to drive, nor how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em. 600k to the first person who realizes what I did here. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=136214&find=unread Of something nothing is everything.
The Attorney General 1767	Posted - 2014.01.16 16:52:00 - [45] - Quote Atiim wrote: The Attorney General wrote: Lower RoF, limited ammo, longer pre-fire sequence, and it is on the fat suit. I don't see how the forge is better in every aspect. Most maybe, but not every. Then again, you have never been one for making accurate statements. Everything is always hyperbole with you. BTW, saying that you have no access to forge guns is a complete lie. Everyone has access to at the very least MLT forge and MLT heavy frame. That's why I said theoretically. The PROs far outweigh the cons, while being the best at all aspects that count. Being no a Fat Suit is actually a plus. It means you can actually turn around and kill the guy shooting you, along with being able to survive a hit from Ion Cannons. And your statements are accurate? I've yet to see one that isn't either ad-hominem or a Double Standard. (Or both for that matter). Swarms suck, but with 10mil SP my Swarms do more damage than a MLT Forge gun. That's counter-productive. ALSO: Lower ROF doesn't really matter when you have extreme Damage. You did not say theoretically. Go and read your own post, or if you tried to change it, go read what I quoted. Post hoc revisionism is not acceptable. Debate like a man. If you can't defend your statements, don't make them. Being on the fat suit is a plus? So being slow, with a huge hitbox is a plus? Not at all. Lower movement speeds make you much more vulnerable to getting railed, blastered or missiled than being in either a medium or light frame. It also inhibits your ability to either chase or retreat as the situation demands. It also makes you the primary target for either the tank or its infantry. Yes RoF matters on every weapon. DPM matters more than DPS. Especially if you are trying to kill a double hardened tank. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3544	Posted - 2014.01.16 22:42:00 - [46] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: You did not say theoretically. Go and read your own post, or if you tried to change it, go read what I quoted. Post hoc revisionism is not acceptable. Debate like a man. If you can't defend your statements, don't make them. If your going to accuse me of changing my argument, then at least look at the post to see if it has been edited; which it has not been. Anyways, you are correct there. I did not say theoretical. I meant to say theoretical but forgot to put it in my post. Happy?[/quote] The Attorney General wrote: Being on the fat suit is a plus? So being slow, with a huge hitbox is a plus? Not at all. Lower movement speeds make you much more vulnerable to getting railed, blastered or missiled than being in either a medium or light frame. It also inhibits your ability to either chase or retreat as the situation demands. It also makes you the primary target for either the tank or its infantry. Yes RoF matters on every weapon. DPM matters more than DPS. Especially if you are trying to kill a double hardened tank. Yes, it is a plus. If you manage to strafe through a blaster turret, then the person shooting at you is a Scrub. When you have incredible range and damage, you don't need to "give chase." Heck, even Light and Medium Frames aren't fast enough to "give chase to their target. The tank would have already turned the corner by then. You are far more vunerable in a Light or Meduim frame then you will ever be in a heavy suit. Heavies have about an extra 900-1000HP, giving you the ability to actually "take punishment." A Light or Medium Frame has about 100-200HP, and can be nearly insta-poped by MLT scrubs in a Starter Fit. How does one kill a hardnend tank? Through the use of Alpha Damage. When your target can easily regenerate damage dealt to them, you need to place an extreme amount of damage on it in an extremely short time period. Otherwise your target will just come back to you will full eHP. TL;DR Damage over time won't mean $#!t when your target can regenerate and/or easily evade you. Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock *FORGE MASTER RACE*
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3546	Posted - 2014.01.16 22:49:00 - [47] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: What? 310k sp for an ADV assault FG 0k SP for a MLT fat suit. 15 mill? Stop being a scrub. Even if someone wanted to go all nuts with speccing forges, getting to prof 5 takes 3.1 mill, then you only need 273k for an advanced heavy frame to fit 2x complex damage mods. LOL The DAU FG is utter $#!t without Damage Mods or proficiency skills (Something that 310k SP and a MLT suit can't provide/fit). So please don't throw that MLT suit crap on the table. Maxing out a tree is required to be as effective as possible when dealing with vehicles, which would cost a good 10-11mil, and having a PRO suit is also required to be as effective as possible, and that is a good 3-4mil SP. Which totals to around 14-15mil SP. Also, you don't get a hive or all that other good stuff, so Ammo Level V is a must (Even on Swarms). Proficency isn't the only skill. Mkay? Says the tanker. ((Edited because I forgot something.)) Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock *FORGE MASTER RACE*
Tch Tch Red Shirts Away Team 153	Posted - 2014.01.16 23:00:00 - [48] - Quote New tanker. First rule: stay mobile, because I know I put REs on stationary tanks. Second rule: reload between engagements, because railguns don't kill you, railgun shells do. Forgot the second rule shot a STD tank twice in the rear and died whilst reloading instead of taking them out. Tanks are pretty powerful at the moment. But they are marginally better at objective denial then snipers. Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
Chaos Scum Warcaste 19	Posted - 2014.01.16 23:03:00 - [49] - Quote Atiim wrote: The Attorney General wrote: What? 310k sp for an ADV assault FG 0k SP for a MLT fat suit. 15 mill? Stop being a scrub. Even if someone wanted to go all nuts with speccing forges, getting to prof 5 takes 3.1 mill, then you only need 273k for an advanced heavy frame to fit 2x complex damage mods. LOL The DAU FG is utter $#!t without Damage Mods or proficiency skills (Something that 310k SP and a MLT suit can't provide/fit). So please don't throw that MLT suit crap on the table. Maxing out a tree is required to be as effective as possible when dealing with vehicles, which would cost a good 10-11mil, and having a PRO suit is also required to be as effective as possible, and that is a good 3-4mil SP. Which totals to around 14-15mil SP. Also, you don't get a hive or all that other good stuff, so Ammo Level V is a must (Even on Swarms). Proficency isn't the only skill. Mkay? Says the tanker. ((Edited because I forgot something.)) You need reload maxed too. it takes 3 clips to scare away a tank Don't hate me because I'm dutiful.
Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 3584	Posted - 2014.01.16 23:31:00 - [50] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I survived an orbital and 3 swarms in a militia tank, without actives. How? I parked under some pipes and behind a pillar, yet the dumbasses still tried to shoot through them. Pics or it didnt happen. (because I know that is not possible from personal experience, if the OB is actually hitting you!) 1 or 2 shots hit the tank, the rest went into the pipes. We used to have a time machine

CELTIC TARON Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 16	Posted - 2014.01.17 03:50:00 - [51] - Quote Atiim: Just hush you are bad as a tanker and an AV user we all know this. Stop crying about tanks it's all you ever do, you have been crying about tanks since as far back as I can remember in this game even when tanks was utter **** and proto AV in a 50k suit would solo destroy a 3 MILLION isk tank. I have no problems destroying a tank all it takes is a Forge Gun or if you are new grab a sica with 2X dmg mods (grr I won't state how broken that damn mechanic is at the moment.) Point is YOU SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SOLO A TANK. Get over yourself and stop thinking pre 1.7. It takes TEAMWORK to destroy a tank unless you are in a tank yourself or a really good forge gunner in a really good spot with a really bad tanker lol. You get 2 people with solid AV and they can destroy any tank with ease unless they are bad at the game. Oh and while you are complaining how about these Sica's with 0 sp I repeat 0 sp 2 shotting my 15 mil sp tank. Yet you want to complain about a few million sp required for infantry again get over yourself. Personally I love it when you are on the other side every time I destroy you, and you end up with a negative KDR. I'v seen you play face it you are horrible, and bitching on the forums isn't going to fix that problem. So stop with the QQ and go do some more Pew Pew PC Tanker AND PROUD! Especially When I Shove A Missile Up Your Arse! Yes Militia need adjusted Long Live Tanks :)
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3561	Posted - 2014.01.17 04:08:00 - [52] - Quote CELTIC TARON wrote: Just hush you are bad as a tanker and an AV user we all know this. Stop crying about tanks it's all you ever do, you have been crying about tanks since as far back as I can remember in this game even when tanks was utter ** and proto AV in a 50k suit would solo destroy a 3 MILLION isk tank. I have no problems destroying a tank all it takes is a Forge Gun or if you are new grab a sica with 2X dmg mods (grr I won't state how broken that damn mechanic is at the moment.) Point is YOU SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SOLO A TANK. Get over yourself and stop thinking pre 1.7. It takes TEAMWORK to destroy a tank unless you are in a tank yourself or a really good forge gunner in a really good spot with a really bad tanker lol. You get 2 people with solid AV and they can destroy any tank with ease unless they are bad at the game. Oh and while you are complaining how about these Sica's with 0 sp I repeat 0 sp 2 shotting my 15 mil sp tank. Yet you want to complain about a few million sp required for infantry again get over yourself. Personally I love it when you are on the other side every time I destroy you, and you end up with a negative KDR. I'v seen you play face it you are horrible, and bitching on the forums isn't going to fix that problem. So stop with the QQ and go do some more Pew Pew Note this is mostly directed at Atiim, and the sp part toward the individual whom responded to Atiim's post. Didn't cry about tanks before 1.7. I fought against making them overpowered. If you can quote and link to me saying tanks were overpowered in a post that predates Uprising 1.7 than this may actually have weight behind it. Quit pulling stuff out of your @$$ If you think I suck at using my AV weapon, then please; go take my AV weapon and show me how it's done then. Show me that I actually suck at Swarming instead of simply reverting to ad-hominem to make your point seem logical ((Funny how I've yet to see a tanker take KingBabar up on his challenge. I wonder why)). I have no problems destroying MLT tanks either. At least when they are piloted by idiots. Get a person in there who has an IQ greater than 5 (Which exceeds that of most tankers) and then the problem comes in. I actually made a thread about that. Why shouldn't I solo a tank? It only requires one person to drive one. Teamwork for all, or teamwork for none. Hypocrite much bro? Of the two battles we fought in, I had a positive KDR in both, and I even managed to kill you with nothing but a MinAssault suit and a Plasma Cannon. Heck, you had a rifle yet still couldn't out-score a guy wielding a Plasma Cannon. Like I told you in that "love letter" you sent me; "I'm embarrassed for you." You call someone a scrub yet can't outscore a scrub with a PLC. It would be a shame if I was to post what you said wouldn't it? Kinda hard to take an insult about me being a scrub seriously when you can't out-score me while I have a PLC Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock FORGE MASTER RACE**
CELTIC TARON Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 16	Posted - 2014.01.17 04:13:00 - [53] - Quote Atiim wrote: CELTIC TARON wrote: Just hush you are bad as a tanker and an AV user we all know this. Stop crying about tanks it's all you ever do, you have been crying about tanks since as far back as I can remember in this game even when tanks was utter **** and proto AV in a 50k suit would solo destroy a 3 MILLION isk tank. I have no problems destroying a tank all it takes is a Forge Gun or if you are new grab a sica with 2X dmg mods (grr I won't state how broken that damn mechanic is at the moment.) Point is YOU SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SOLO A TANK. Get over yourself and stop thinking pre 1.7. It takes TEAMWORK to destroy a tank unless you are in a tank yourself or a really good forge gunner in a really good spot with a really bad tanker lol. You get 2 people with solid AV and they can destroy any tank with ease unless they are bad at the game. Oh and while you are complaining how about these Sica's with 0 sp I repeat 0 sp 2 shotting my 15 mil sp tank. Yet you want to complain about a few million sp required for infantry again get over yourself. Personally I love it when you are on the other side every time I destroy you, and you end up with a negative KDR. I'v seen you play face it you are horrible, and bitching on the forums isn't going to fix that problem. So stop with the QQ and go do some more Pew Pew Note this is mostly directed at Atiim, and the sp part toward the individual whom responded to Atiim's post. Didn't cry about tanks before 1.7. I fought against making them overpowered. If you can quote and link to me saying tanks were overpowered in a post that predates Uprising 1.7 than this may actually have weight behind it. Quit pulling stuff out of your @$$ If you think I suck at using my AV weapon, then please; go take my AV weapon and show me how it's done then. Show me that I actually suck at Swarming instead of simply reverting to ad-hominem to make your point seem logical ((Funny how I've yet to see a tanker take KingBabar up on his challenge. I wonder why)). I have no problems destroying MLT tanks either. At least when they are piloted by idiots. Get a person in there who has an IQ greater than 5 (Which exceeds that of most tankers) and then the problem comes in. I actually made a thread about that. Why shouldn't I solo a tank? It only requires one person to drive one. Teamwork for all, or teamwork for none. Hypocrite much bro? Of the two battles we fought in, I had a positive KDR in both, and I even managed to kill you with nothing but a MinAssault suit and a Plasma Cannon. Heck, you had a rifle yet still couldn't out-score a guy wielding a Plasma Cannon. Like I told you in that "love letter" you sent me; "I'm embarrassed for you." You call someone a scrub yet can't outscore a scrub with a PLC. It would be a shame if I was to post what you said wouldn't it? Kinda hard to take an insult about me being a scrub seriously when you can't out-score me while I have a PLC Im sorry to say that you are thinking of someone else you have never killed me with a plasma cannon, heck I can't even recall last time I died to one period :p So get your facts straight. Although when the rare time does come it's kudos to them as it's so damn difficult to kill someone and not die yourself due to reload etc. Also note as a dedicated tanker you wont see me on foot very often. I also refuse to red line rail tank unless I absolutely have no other choice same way I feel about sniping. I'd much rather be in the thick of things than 500 meters away being one of the guys with no skill in a sica abusing a very much broken mechanic. (which is already been confirmed as being looked at for patch 1.8) So again get your facts straight bud. If you have any doubts I welcome you to Q sync opposing factions so we end up fighting each other. PC Tanker AND PROUD! Especially When I Shove A Missile Up Your Arse! Yes Militia need adjusted Long Live Tanks :)
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3561	Posted - 2014.01.17 04:16:00 - [54] - Quote CELTIC TARON wrote: Im sorry to say that you are thinking of someone else you have never killed me with a plasma cannon, heck I can't even recall last time I died to one period :p So get your facts straight. Although when the rare time does come it's kudos to them as it's so damn difficult to kill someone and not die yourself due to reload etc. Well, I fired my Plasma Cannon at you, and you died, So it was either my Plasma Cannon, or my Remote Explosive. Doesn't really matter because if the RE didn't get you then the PLC would have. But I'd be happy to rinse you again. And again. And again. And again. Mkay? CELTIC TARON wrote: So again get your facts straight bud. If you have any doubts I welcome you to Q sync opposing factions so we end up fighting each other. I'd prefer a thunder-dome. Seems way more epic and we have an audience to announce the winner. Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock *FORGE MASTER RACE*
CELTIC TARON Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 17	Posted - 2014.01.17 04:19:00 - [55] - Quote Atiim wrote: CELTIC TARON wrote: Im sorry to say that you are thinking of someone else you have never killed me with a plasma cannon, heck I can't even recall last time I died to one period :p So get your facts straight. Although when the rare time does come it's kudos to them as it's so damn difficult to kill someone and not die yourself due to reload etc. Well, I fired my Plasma Cannon at you, and you died, So it was either my Plasma Cannon, or my Remote Explosive. Doesn't really matter because if the RE didn't get you then the PLC would have. But I'd be happy to rinse you again. And again. And again. And again. Mkay? Ya know it does happen, even the best people in the game can be killed by the worst if the circumstances are right. Every dog has their day lol. Considering (on this character whom is not my proto AV but my tanker) if I'm on foot i'm in a dren suit doesn't say much that you killed me. If you mean in my tank then I can confirm it wasn't me because I have never since 1.3 ever been destroyed by a PC in a tank. RE's rarely but occasionally yes. (J. Jeeps don't work if you know how to counter them) :) PC Tanker AND PROUD! Especially When I Shove A Missile Up Your Arse! Yes Militia need adjusted Long Live Tanks :)
Rusty Shallows 814	Posted - 2014.01.17 04:29:00 - [56] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Nah I was caught out in the open trying to chase down a Soma with my hardener on cooldown and an IAFG popped me open. Nerf forge guns! Okay that was damned funny. +1 to the guy with the dry whit. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3563	Posted - 2014.01.17 04:34:00 - [57] - Quote CELTIC TARON wrote: Ya know it does happen, even the best people in the game can be killed by the worst if the circumstances are right. Every dog has their day lol. Considering (on this character whom is not my proto AV but my tanker) if I'm on foot i'm in a dren suit doesn't say much that you killed me. If you mean in my tank then I can confirm it wasn't me because I have never since 1.3 ever been destroyed by a PC in a tank. RE's rarely but occasionally yes. (J. Jeeps don't work if you know how to counter them) :) So now we've gone from you trying to redicule me by talking about what happened in 2 matches (by supplying false information nonetheless); to "Oh it's fine, everyone has bad days." If your going to get into an argument and call me a scrub by falsifying information, don't take the easy way out when I call you out on it. It's not only childish, but also hypocritical. Creator of The AV Registry The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock *FORGE MASTER RACE*
Eurydice Itzhak Providence Guard Templis CALSF 339	Posted - 2014.01.17 04:39:00 - [58] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Atiim wrote: The Attorney General wrote: So you want people to save up 10 milion SP to dump into swarms to prove you suck? Seems reasonable. Seems a lot more reasonable then you telling everyone to dump 15mil SP into PRO Heavies with Maxed out Forge Guns. What? 310k sp for an ADV assault FG 0k SP for a MLT fat suit. 15 mill? Stop being a scrub. Even if someone wanted to go all nuts with speccing forges, getting to prof 5 takes 3.1 mill, then you only need 273k for an advanced heavy frame to fit 2x complex damage mods. I just wanted to say that I have ADV AFG and it took more like a million SP. You're taking for granted that people have weaponry 5. Although it was some of the best million SP i've spent.
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 1641	Posted - 2014.01.17 04:42:00 - [59] - Quote Shu8 the fu9k up, Atiim. You were crying about tanks in 1.0!!! If you have trouble killing tanks then, you have no credibility with current tank balance because you obviously suck. stop the QQ. You're a bad player. End of thread. Please, for the love of God, stop responding to Atiim's threads. We all know he is a whiny idi9t and arguing with him only bumps the threads. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!


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