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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.01.16 03:26:00 -
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Atiim wrote:
Also, since you think your so much better than me at AV, how about you hop our of your silly tank and use a Swarm Launcher or Plasma Cannon against a tank. Let's see how much better than me you could do.
Why use an imitation when you can use real AV.
Fat suit and a forge.
Atiim's invincible MLT tank would go pop so fast his head would spin. Except he would be hiding in the redline with a railgun, because he could never accept that someone he needs to pretend is bad at AV is much, much better at it than he is.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.01.16 15:59:00 -
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Atiim wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Atiim wrote:
Also, since you think your so much better than me at AV, how about you hop our of your silly tank and use a Swarm Launcher or Plasma Cannon against a tank. Let's see how much better than me you could do.
Why use an imitation when you can use real AV. Fat suit and a forge. Atiim's invincible MLT tank would go pop so fast his head would spin. Except he would be hiding in the redline with a railgun, because he could never accept that someone he needs to pretend is bad at AV is much, much better at it than he is. Oh you again. I guess you came to spread your FORGE MASTER RACE ideal here too huh? And I told him (her?) to use a Plasma Cannon or Swarm Launcher because Forge Guns are better in every aspect possible, while I have no access to Forge Guns on my main; meaning s/he would obviously win simply because of superior gear. However if s/he uses the weapon that s/he claims that I suck at, we would get an accurate view of weather or not s/he is better than me with it. Just like if I said you sucked at using Gunnlogies and you challenged that, would it really be an accurate assessment of who was better at it if I used a Madrugar? I don't need to pretend anything. If your going to say that I suck at using a weapon, then either prove that you can use said weapon better than I can; or sit back down at the kiddie table making baseless insults that have no weight or credibility behind them. And it wouldn't even matter if you popped my tank. I could easily call in 7 more. 
So you want people to save up 10 milion SP to dump into swarms to prove you suck?
Seems reasonable.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.01.16 16:04:00 -
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Atiim wrote:
And I told him (her?) to use a Plasma Cannon or Swarm Launcher because Forge Guns are better in every aspect possible, while I have no access to Forge Guns on my main; meaning s/he would obviously win simply because of superior gear.
Lower RoF, limited ammo, longer pre-fire sequence, and it is on the fat suit.
I don't see how the forge is better in every aspect. Most maybe, but not every.
Then again, you have never been one for making accurate statements. Everything is always hyperbole with you.
BTW, saying that you have no access to forge guns is a complete lie. Everyone has access to at the very least MLT forge and MLT heavy frame.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.01.16 16:47:00 -
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Atiim wrote:The Attorney General wrote:
So you want people to save up 10 milion SP to dump into swarms to prove you suck?
Seems reasonable.
Seems a lot more reasonable then you telling everyone to dump 15mil SP into PRO Heavies with Maxed out Forge Guns.
What?
310k sp for an ADV assault FG
0k SP for a MLT fat suit.
15 mill? Stop being a scrub.
Even if someone wanted to go all nuts with speccing forges, getting to prof 5 takes 3.1 mill, then you only need 273k for an advanced heavy frame to fit 2x complex damage mods.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.01.16 16:52:00 -
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Atiim wrote:The Attorney General wrote:
Lower RoF, limited ammo, longer pre-fire sequence, and it is on the fat suit.
I don't see how the forge is better in every aspect. Most maybe, but not every.
Then again, you have never been one for making accurate statements. Everything is always hyperbole with you.
BTW, saying that you have no access to forge guns is a complete lie. Everyone has access to at the very least MLT forge and MLT heavy frame.
That's why I said theoretically. The PROs far outweigh the cons, while being the best at all aspects that count. Being no a Fat Suit is actually a plus. It means you can actually turn around and kill the guy shooting you, along with being able to survive a hit from Ion Cannons. And your statements are accurate? I've yet to see one that isn't either ad-hominem or a Double Standard. (Or both for that matter). Swarms suck, but with 10mil SP my Swarms do more damage than a MLT Forge gun. That's counter-productive. ALSO: Lower ROF doesn't really matter when you have extreme Damage.
You did not say theoretically. Go and read your own post, or if you tried to change it, go read what I quoted.
Post hoc revisionism is not acceptable. Debate like a man. If you can't defend your statements, don't make them.
Being on the fat suit is a plus? So being slow, with a huge hitbox is a plus? Not at all. Lower movement speeds make you much more vulnerable to getting railed, blastered or missiled than being in either a medium or light frame. It also inhibits your ability to either chase or retreat as the situation demands. It also makes you the primary target for either the tank or its infantry.
Yes RoF matters on every weapon. DPM matters more than DPS. Especially if you are trying to kill a double hardened tank.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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