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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.01.14 14:00:00 -
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And here's why: I tanked through a Forge and 3 Swarms without hardners.
Tanks are only bad in the hands of those who don't know what the hell they are doing; in other words, those who don't know how to drive, nor how to fit a tank, and, most importantly, when to hold 'em or fold 'em.
600k to the first person who realizes what I did here.
Atiim (Wyrikomi Swarm Launcher) Tank Spammer
Tank Spammer (Soma - MLT 80GJ Blaster) Atiim
And this is why I drink.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.01.14 14:15:00 -
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poison Diego wrote: Hahahaha if you want to take out a tank you need to be determined, and have a squad.
I was fighting Rainbow effect's qsync yesterday and they WERE determined.. (remotes, 2xAV grenaders, 1xTaz, 2 xforge, 1xswarms and ALOT of nanohives all proto.) yea...they got me a few times....sniff
That seems like ALOT of effort for just one person.
They should've just grabbed a tank.
Atiim (Wyrikomi Swarm Launcher) Tank Spammer
Tank Spammer (Soma - MLT 80GJ Blaster) Atiim
And this is why I drink.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.01.15 14:55:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I survived an orbital and 3 swarms in a militia tank, without actives. How?
I parked under some pipes and behind a pillar, yet the dumbasses still tried to shoot through them. Pics or it didnt happen. (because I know that is not possible from personal experience, if the OB is actually hitting you!) It wasn't hitting him.
He's saying that he took cover under some pipes :P
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The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.01.16 02:30:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Atiim, you don't tank. You don't AV. Your infantry game is awful. You're probably the blueberry in Cal FW making us lose. Please stop playing Dust and go back to CoD- it has no tanks. We really need to squad up sometime then if you really believe anything of what you just said.
Except maybe that part about Caldari FW. It's hard lugging 620 armor when you don't have an LAV because the Vehicle Quota has been reached
Also, since you think your so much better than me at AV, how about you hop our of your silly tank and use a Swarm Launcher or Plasma Cannon against a tank. Let's see how much better than me you could do.
Until then, quit pretending as if you even have a remote clue of what your talking about.
Go back to COD? I've never even played CoD, and why would I want vehicles removed? So I can kill the AV class?
Try Troll Again?
Creator of The AV Registry
The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.01.16 03:47:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Atiim wrote: Also, since you think your so much better than me at AV, how about you hop our of your silly tank and use a Swarm Launcher or Plasma Cannon against a tank. Let's see how much better than me you could do.
Why use an imitation when you can use real AV. Fat suit and a forge. Atiim's invincible MLT tank would go pop so fast his head would spin. Except he would be hiding in the redline with a railgun, because he could never accept that someone he needs to pretend is bad at AV is much, much better at it than he is. Oh you again. I guess you came to spread your FORGE MASTER RACE ideal here too huh?
And I told him (her?) to use a Plasma Cannon or Swarm Launcher because Forge Guns are better in every aspect possible, while I have no access to Forge Guns on my main; meaning s/he would obviously win simply because of superior gear.
However if s/he uses the weapon that s/he claims that I suck at, we would get an accurate view of weather or not s/he is better than me with it.
Just like if I said you sucked at using Gunnlogies and you challenged that, would it really be an accurate assessment of who was better at it if I used a Madrugar?
I don't need to pretend anything. If your going to say that I suck at using a weapon, then either prove that you can use said weapon better than I can; or sit back down at the kiddie table making baseless insults that have no weight or credibility behind them.
And it wouldn't even matter if you popped my tank. I could easily call in 7 more.
Creator of The AV Registry
The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.01.16 15:05:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote: Charlotte can take two other from here too. Make it a Swarm Team. I'd like them to run a 3 man swarm team, beat the tanks and win the game at the same time....
Yes.
I find it funny how they say AV is easy or fine, yet they still haven't taken KingBabar's challenge.
But I'd gladly see their Swarm team. They'd fail miserably and then make up an excuse saying "Well you scrubs should've skilled into heavies with Forges."
Though I doubt that they even believe what their saying. Otherwise they would've gone to the Scout Registry and said HTFU and skill into Medium Frames by now.
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The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.01.16 16:39:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote: So you want people to save up 10 milion SP to dump into swarms to prove you suck?
Seems reasonable.
Seems a lot more reasonable then you telling everyone to dump 15mil SP into PRO Heavies with Maxed out Forge Guns.
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The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.01.16 16:46:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote: Lower RoF, limited ammo, longer pre-fire sequence, and it is on the fat suit.
I don't see how the forge is better in every aspect. Most maybe, but not every.
Then again, you have never been one for making accurate statements. Everything is always hyperbole with you.
BTW, saying that you have no access to forge guns is a complete lie. Everyone has access to at the very least MLT forge and MLT heavy frame.
That's why I said theoretically. The PROs far outweigh the cons, while being the best at all aspects that count.
Being no a Fat Suit is actually a plus. It means you can actually turn around and kill the guy shooting you, along with being able to survive a hit from Ion Cannons.
And your statements are accurate? I've yet to see one that isn't either ad-hominem or a Double Standard. (Or both for that matter).
Swarms suck, but with 10mil SP my Swarms do more damage than a MLT Forge gun. That's counter-productive.
ALSO: Lower ROF doesn't really matter when you have extreme Damage.
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The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock
FORGE MASTER RACE
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.01.16 22:42:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote: You did not say theoretically. Go and read your own post, or if you tried to change it, go read what I quoted.
Post hoc revisionism is not acceptable. Debate like a man. If you can't defend your statements, don't make them.
If your going to accuse me of changing my argument, then at least look at the post to see if it has been edited; which it has not been.
Anyways, you are correct there. I did not say theoretical. I meant to say theoretical but forgot to put it in my post. Happy?[/quote]
The Attorney General wrote: Being on the fat suit is a plus? So being slow, with a huge hitbox is a plus? Not at all. Lower movement speeds make you much more vulnerable to getting railed, blastered or missiled than being in either a medium or light frame. It also inhibits your ability to either chase or retreat as the situation demands. It also makes you the primary target for either the tank or its infantry.
Yes RoF matters on every weapon. DPM matters more than DPS. Especially if you are trying to kill a double hardened tank.
Yes, it is a plus. If you manage to strafe through a blaster turret, then the person shooting at you is a Scrub.
When you have incredible range and damage, you don't need to "give chase." Heck, even Light and Medium Frames aren't fast enough to "give chase to their target. The tank would have already turned the corner by then.
You are far more vunerable in a Light or Meduim frame then you will ever be in a heavy suit. Heavies have about an extra 900-1000HP, giving you the ability to actually "take punishment."
A Light or Medium Frame has about 100-200HP, and can be nearly insta-poped by MLT scrubs in a Starter Fit.
How does one kill a hardnend tank? Through the use of Alpha Damage. When your target can easily regenerate damage dealt to them, you need to place an extreme amount of damage on it in an extremely short time period. Otherwise your target will just come back to you will full eHP.
TL;DR Damage over time won't mean $#!t when your target can regenerate and/or easily evade you.
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The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.01.16 22:49:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote: What?
310k sp for an ADV assault FG
0k SP for a MLT fat suit.
15 mill? Stop being a scrub.
Even if someone wanted to go all nuts with speccing forges, getting to prof 5 takes 3.1 mill, then you only need 273k for an advanced heavy frame to fit 2x complex damage mods.
LOL The DAU FG is utter $#!t without Damage Mods or proficiency skills (Something that 310k SP and a MLT suit can't provide/fit). So please don't throw that MLT suit crap on the table.
Maxing out a tree is required to be as effective as possible when dealing with vehicles, which would cost a good 10-11mil, and having a PRO suit is also required to be as effective as possible, and that is a good 3-4mil SP. Which totals to around 14-15mil SP.
Also, you don't get a hive or all that other good stuff, so Ammo Level V is a must (Even on Swarms). Proficency isn't the only skill. Mkay?
Says the tanker.
((Edited because I forgot something.))
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The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.01.17 04:08:00 -
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CELTIC TARON wrote: Just hush you are bad as a tanker and an AV user we all know this. Stop crying about tanks it's all you ever do, you have been crying about tanks since as far back as I can remember in this game even when tanks was utter **** and proto AV in a 50k suit would solo destroy a 3 MILLION isk tank.
I have no problems destroying a tank all it takes is a Forge Gun or if you are new grab a sica with 2X dmg mods (grr I won't state how broken that damn mechanic is at the moment.)
Point is YOU SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SOLO A TANK. Get over yourself and stop thinking pre 1.7. It takes TEAMWORK to destroy a tank unless you are in a tank yourself or a really good forge gunner in a really good spot with a really bad tanker lol.
You get 2 people with solid AV and they can destroy any tank with ease unless they are bad at the game.
Oh and while you are complaining how about these Sica's with 0 sp I repeat 0 sp 2 shotting my 15 mil sp tank. Yet you want to complain about a few million sp required for infantry again get over yourself.
Personally I love it when you are on the other side every time I destroy you, and you end up with a negative KDR. I'v seen you play face it you are horrible, and bitching on the forums isn't going to fix that problem. So stop with the QQ and go do some more Pew Pew
Note this is mostly directed at Atiim, and the sp part toward the individual whom responded to Atiim's post.
Didn't cry about tanks before 1.7. I fought against making them overpowered. If you can quote and link to me saying tanks were overpowered in a post that predates Uprising 1.7 than this may actually have weight behind it. Quit pulling stuff out of your @$$
If you think I suck at using my AV weapon, then please; go take my AV weapon and show me how it's done then. Show me that I actually suck at Swarming instead of simply reverting to ad-hominem to make your point seem logical ((Funny how I've yet to see a tanker take KingBabar up on his challenge. I wonder why)).
I have no problems destroying MLT tanks either. At least when they are piloted by idiots. Get a person in there who has an IQ greater than 5 (Which exceeds that of most tankers) and then the problem comes in.
I actually made a thread about that. Why shouldn't I solo a tank? It only requires one person to drive one. Teamwork for all, or teamwork for none. Hypocrite much bro?
Of the two battles we fought in, I had a positive KDR in both, and I even managed to kill you with nothing but a MinAssault suit and a Plasma Cannon. Heck, you had a rifle yet still couldn't out-score a guy wielding a Plasma Cannon. Like I told you in that "love letter" you sent me; "I'm embarrassed for you." You call someone a scrub yet can't outscore a scrub with a PLC. It would be a shame if I was to post what you said wouldn't it?
Kinda hard to take an insult about me being a scrub seriously when you can't out-score me while I have a PLC
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The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.01.17 04:16:00 -
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CELTIC TARON wrote: Im sorry to say that you are thinking of someone else you have never killed me with a plasma cannon, heck I can't even recall last time I died to one period :p So get your facts straight. Although when the rare time does come it's kudos to them as it's so damn difficult to kill someone and not die yourself due to reload etc.
Well, I fired my Plasma Cannon at you, and you died,
So it was either my Plasma Cannon, or my Remote Explosive. Doesn't really matter because if the RE didn't get you then the PLC would have.
But I'd be happy to rinse you again. And again. And again. And again.
Mkay?
CELTIC TARON wrote: So again get your facts straight bud. If you have any doubts I welcome you to Q sync opposing factions so we end up fighting each other.
I'd prefer a thunder-dome. Seems way more epic and we have an audience to announce the winner.
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The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.01.17 04:34:00 -
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CELTIC TARON wrote: Ya know it does happen, even the best people in the game can be killed by the worst if the circumstances are right. Every dog has their day lol. Considering (on this character whom is not my proto AV but my tanker) if I'm on foot i'm in a dren suit doesn't say much that you killed me. If you mean in my tank then I can confirm it wasn't me because I have never since 1.3 ever been destroyed by a PC in a tank. RE's rarely but occasionally yes. (J. Jeeps don't work if you know how to counter them) :)
So now we've gone from you trying to redicule me by talking about what happened in 2 matches (by supplying false information nonetheless); to "Oh it's fine, everyone has bad days."
If your going to get into an argument and call me a scrub by falsifying information, don't take the easy way out when I call you out on it.
It's not only childish, but also hypocritical.
Creator of The AV Registry
The Pilot's Whipin' Boy // DJINN Lukeoplast's alleged sock
FORGE MASTER RACE
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