Missiles are multi purpose.
If you don't think missiles are any good try running an ADS to get your aim in.

Missiles aren't as good as Blaster at AI, or Rails at AV.
That is a Missile Turrets purpose.

And Infantry don't like blaster turrets, so what?

Also this is the funny part is you don't see the difference.

Infantry don't like blaster turrets. But blaster turrets are having fun.

Blaster turrets (90% of the time madrugars) don't like missile turrets. But missile turrets are having fun.

Vehicles don't like rail turrets and the only counter is more rail turrets which aren't fun.

So not only is it not fun for the receiving end, its not fun for the giving end. You could opt out, except this is 1.7 and you don't get to opt out. You're using rail turrets and being bored or you're throwing away isk.

Nobody enjoys these turrets. I hate that i have to rail tank on every single map besides line harvest and that one tiny circular map with lots of cover.
Nobody enjoys playing against these turrets.
Nobody likes losing a tank in one shot. (Triple dmod gunni with pro rail one shots just about everything. Two dmods and a hardener if you don't feel like being risky. A sica if you don't want to spend over 100k.)

Missiles and blasters became fun and relevent in 1.7 except you're not allowed to use them. Rails only.

For rail supporters here is something to consider. This still is from my upcoming redline/rail video. Blue skull is where i died. Yellow dot is where The tank was (i have the evidence to prove it). Kill card.

Fair and in need of no adjustment?

/drops the mic

Seriously, for anyone that thinks that this is just pilots being whiny or some other excuse, take a good look at that picture. That is a common occurence.

You right I don't see a difference because rail turreters are having fun as well your complaing that you dying to rail, despite thd factmI have seen missiles take down rails.

But its amazing, this is the same arguement infantry AV has been given, but now because its a tanker wd are obligied to listen?

Try actually tanking a tank and go up against these guys then look at the shock on their face when there huge dps barely dents the huge HP pool you have.

I run 2 tanks for this type of thing.

1 - Plates and hardeners with a single damage mod. I have average tank sp and tank skills yet I make short work of the glass cannons. At the cost of 0 repair. Its a one time wonder you might say.

2- Run a plate a repair and a hardener. I only have the advanced rail turret and like I said average skills so there is a lot of room for improvement.

Nobody enjoys these turrets. I hate that i have to rail tank on every single map besides line harvest and that one tiny circular map with lots of cover.
Nobody enjoys playing against these turrets.
Nobody likes losing a tank in one shot. (Triple dmod gunni with pro rail one shots just about everything. Two dmods and a hardener if you don't feel like being risky. A sica if you don't want to spend over 100k.)

Missiles and blasters became fun and relevent in 1.7 except you're not allowed to use them. Rails only.

NOPE.

Remove BLASTER turrets so tanks stop preying on infantry.


If you remove RAIL TURRETS there will be more tanks on the ground, f that.



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I use rail tanks all the time.
Mostly to take out all these bloody blaster tanks that are spamming the battlefield.
Rails have to stay in the game they are one of very few viable anti vehicle options left. Forge guns dont take tanks out (they make them retreat for 20 seconds.) Swarms are a joke. Jihad jeeps and rail tanks are about the only effective way to take out tanks.

ahhh and that is the key point to this whole argument... i am mad because some 100k sica with rails can kill my 500k plus isk gunlogi.


so this whole thread is because you are mad about losing tanks.. well geuss what when you are in a blaster tank the rail tanks are there to kill you.


in world war 2 German tiger tanks (rail tanks of the time) was killing sherman tanks (blasters of the time) like 4 to 1.
the only counter was the Sherman tanks would have to maneuver and work as a team to kill tiger tanks.

and you think rails are OP just wait for minmatar heavy guns.. even longer range and more damage then rails. Or even the amarr beam lasers will melt tanks like butter.


its not a issue of this is op... its the mater that you want to have impunity on the battlefield in your blaster tank. but geuss what, no sorry that is not how this game works. develop tactics.


the whole red line issue is there.. and thats an issue that there is only one long range turret at the moment.
all the infantry hand held weapons have lousy range, damage and speed of the actual projectiles.
seeing that a hand carried ATGM of todays military can kill a tank at the multi kilometer ranges makes it kinda frustrating that a plasma cannon shot is like a subsonic snowball and not a 5000 meter per second ball of death the way it should be.

Just want to plaster this thread with this thought over and over again.

Don't remove rail turrets. (Don't even think like that. That way of thinking is part of the problem.) Instead, add all the missing

racial variants of heavy suits

short and long range heavy weapons (many could potentially be devastating AV weapons)

HAVs (Amarr and Minmatar HAVs)

small and large turrets (Pulse and Beam Lasers, Autocannon and Artillery Projectiles, and one other type of Missile Launcher)

AND THEN see how rail turrets balance against everything else. You know, once the rest of the game is in the game. It's a wasted effort to balance something when we don't have the complete picture.


I say this over and over again basically everywhere, and I think it speaks to the instant-gratification desire of the FPS community that not a lot of people seem to agree with me, but the fact of the matter is I'm right. To be successful, DUST needs to basically be EVE as an FPS, and they need meaningful integration ASAP.

NOPE.

Remove BLASTER turrets so tanks stop preying on infantry.


If you remove RAIL TURRETS there will be more tanks on the ground, f that.



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ahhh and that is the key point to this whole argument... i am mad because some 100k sica with rails can kill my 500k plus isk gunlogi.


so this whole thread is because you are mad about losing tanks.. well geuss what when you are in a blaster tank the rail tanks are there to kill you.


in world war 2 German tiger tanks (rail tanks of the time) was killing sherman tanks (blasters of the time) like 4 to 1.
the only counter was the Sherman tanks would have to maneuver and work as a team to kill tiger tanks.

and you think rails are OP just wait for minmatar heavy guns.. even longer range and more damage then rails. Or even the amarr beam lasers will melt tanks like butter.


its not a issue of this is op... its the mater that you want to have impunity on the battlefield in your blaster tank. but geuss what, no sorry that is not how this game works. develop tactics.


the whole red line issue is there.. and thats an issue that there is only one long range turret at the moment.
all the infantry hand held weapons have lousy range, damage and speed of the actual projectiles.
seeing that a hand carried ATGM of todays military can kill a tank at the multi kilometer ranges makes it kinda frustrating that a plasma cannon shot is like a subsonic snowball and not a 5000 meter per second ball of death the way it should be.

My god verc drivers are the most selfish group iv ever seen in any game. Heven forbid there is somthing out their designed to kill you. Nope rail turrents working as intented i hope they kill many more stuiped drivers