Please, enlighten me as to how many vehicles and dropsuits die to dropships at the flight ceiling......

Anyone who can fly a dropship like Judge does in his intermediate and advanced instructional videos are obviously OP.

*Sniff* I practice SO much, but I can't get it. :'(

I could be your fit?
also try the gallente they seem to take more damage

It depends on what kind of damage you're talking about. Forges and swarms? Yes, but missiles like another dropship? Nope. And if you want to fly with speed and maneuverability then you really should try out the python with an afterburner fitted.

If assault dropships are OP, than how come I can't actually see my target when I shoot?

@ OP, 100% agree, +1

gallente have beeter top speed caldari have accelaration

My only qualm is the same one I have with tanks ATM, its just to easy to g out of dodge. Pop hardeners and run, its impossible to compete with given the range nerf n both forge and swarms. Other then that I think they go down fine IMO, damage is where it should be, its just the incapability to catch them as an AV that sucks ATM. Only thing that can consistanty hit them is rail tanks, which defeats the purpose of being AV lol.

ADS are OP in ambush simply because there are no hard counters. As a dropship in ambush you can simply listen for any RDV sound and check the overhead map for any tanks, which you can then take care of.
Having only deterrents yet no counters means OP.
In skirm/dom redline rails are counters, they either kill you or you're forced to retreat IMMEDIATELY.

Even tanks are normally not that OP, simply because other tanks can hard counter them w/ quick, serious damage and death. This is broken though when team get 4 or more tanks up at once though in ambush, as with no redline, a single enemy tank can't be an effective counter to them, as its almost impossible to single out the tanks.

So yes, there needs to be something thats a serious counter to you, or you're OP. Being deterred isn't enough, this is a video game, we don't shoot to wound, we shoot to kill. Same with vehicles.

Also, ADS do not take much skill, i got on the first day they were brought out and I was hitting people w/ rockets right off the bat, same with every patch afterwards despite the crappy camera views constantly being changed to even crappier ones.

TL;DR remove heavy & medium vehicles from ambush. Light only, LAVs, speeders, etc.

I replied but the forums ate it.

TL:DR, Even officer Forges can't alpha a dropship before its out of range, and other ADS's cant counter because the defending ADS can land and use a FG to hit the attacking ADS making it run, as a result they're just deterrents, they can't reliably kill ADSs.
As such, a skilled and careful ADS player will never lose his ADS in ambush.
They have no counters, only deterrents, thats OP.
Skirm/dom are fine because redline rails are hard counters.

An assault dropship yesterday, reminded me of something.
Something that makes all this ADS whining about "we cant get at tanks in redline", total and complete hipocrisy.

I was traveling along in my tank.. when suddenly, i get a rain of missiles on top of me.
Doesnt matter how fast I go to try to escape, the rain keeps falling.
I cant fight back. I cant run away fast enough. Almost nothing I can do.

Except perhaps run into redline.


So basically, all the whining about "wah wah railtanks have unfair advantage with redline: they can hit us, but we cant hit them",

is complaining about "we want them to come out of redline, so we can get back to, "We can hit THEM, but THEY cant hit US".

So.... yeah... petition CCP to allow tanks to fire back at you straight vertically, and when you get it, then you deserve some relief from redline rail tanks.