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knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1000
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:01:00 -
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looks like I wont be playing for a few weeks.
CCP: "hey you know that hideously underpowered class that has NEVER GOTTEN LOVE?" marketing: "yea, the scout right?" CCP: "yea, that's the one, lets put a bounty on all their heads" marketing: "okay but why would scouts play along?" CCP: "we'll give them proto suits and weapons for getting kills with an awful, easily countered, niche weapon. marketing: "BRILLIANT!"
I'm not angry, or even disappointed, but I'm not taking part either.
I have 65 million isk, I don't need free prototype gear. I have 13 million SP accelerated SP would be nice but I don't need it either.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
CLOSED BETA VET
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1519
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:03:00 -
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You have 13 million SP and you don't need more? Then youre definitely doing something wrong.
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iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1287
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:03:00 -
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I applaud any event, even if it is a playstyle I don't normally play.
It could be worse, there could be no events.
Id rather have events than not. And I fail to see how ranting helps.
"We spent so much time huddling inside buildings with tanks circling outside like a swarm of sharks around bait"
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
512
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:06:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:I applaud any event, even if it is a playstyle I don't normally play.
It could be worse, there could be no events.
Id rather have events than not. And I fail to see how ranting helps.
You know what would have been a better "scout" event? Getting the cash if you kill a a scout in another scout suit.
This forces anyone who wants to partake in the event into an extremely weak suit...Maybe they would learn from it.
I want good events, I'd rather not have these bad events.
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1000
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:07:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:You have 13 million SP and you don't need more? Then youre definitely doing something wrong. I could use more, but it's not worth being a scout in this event for it.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
CLOSED BETA VET
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
1934
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:09:00 -
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I'm going to run a profile damp, and knives.
Problem is, I taint too gewd with'em.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
9856
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:10:00 -
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I just hope the SP event isn't CCPs way of saying 'you aren't getting an infantry respec'
Assault Dropship Montage
Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
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Leovarian L Lavitz
NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention
892
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:10:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:iceyburnz wrote:I applaud any event, even if it is a playstyle I don't normally play.
It could be worse, there could be no events.
Id rather have events than not. And I fail to see how ranting helps. You know what would have been a better "scout" event? Getting the cash if you kill a a scout in another scout suit. This forces anyone who wants to partake in the event into an extremely weak suit...Maybe they would learn from it. I want good events, I'd rather not have these bad events. The scout isn't as 'extremely weak' as you would like to shout out. Imo, the scout is a powerful suit in its own way, however, too many other suits are marginalizing its role on the battlefield imo.
Omni-Soldier
Few are my equal in one of these specialties, and there are none who can compare in all of them.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
1934
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:10:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:iceyburnz wrote:I applaud any event, even if it is a playstyle I don't normally play.
It could be worse, there could be no events.
Id rather have events than not. And I fail to see how ranting helps. You know what would have been a better "scout" event? Getting the cash if you kill a a scout in another scout suit. This forces anyone who wants to partake in the event into an extremely weak suit...Maybe they would learn from it. I want good events, I'd rather not have these bad events. Or just getting kills in a scout suit would have been fine(for the scout rewards)
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
3885
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:12:00 -
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I'm not so sure about partaking myself but this seems to be some kind of test, if you want to help scouts in the long run just try to rethink about joining in.
I'll even squad with ya so we can knife together.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
485
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:13:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:iceyburnz wrote:I applaud any event, even if it is a playstyle I don't normally play.
It could be worse, there could be no events.
Id rather have events than not. And I fail to see how ranting helps. You know what would have been a better "scout" event? Getting the cash if you kill a a scout in another scout suit. This forces anyone who wants to partake in the event into an extremely weak suit...Maybe they would learn from it. I want good events, I'd rather not have these bad events. Not true at all as my BigBertha(HMG) is included in the list of acceptable weapons to claim the bounty on scouts. On the same note scouts always seem to be trying to either knife or shotgun me anyway so I wont even have to go looking for them win-win for both of us really either he kills me for his reward or I notice him in time and turn on the meat grinder for my reward.
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse though to slack off on releasing a heavy laser =.=
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1000
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:13:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:
Or just getting kills in a scout suit would have been fine(for the scout rewards)
I might be okay with that, the Idea of having a price on my head is still extremely unappealing but at least I'd be armed.
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
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R F Gyro
Clones 4u
942
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:13:00 -
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Change your play style and expectations; go for survival challenges...
* Maximum kill streak (number of knife kills without a death) * Maximum lossless streak (number of games without a death) * GTA (steal an enemy LAV, getting killed sends you back to your own redline)
etc.
RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
514
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:18:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:I'm not so sure about partaking myself but this seems to be some kind of test, if you want to help scouts in the long run just try to rethink about joining in.
I'll even squad with ya so we can knife together.
I wish CCP would not use events as "testing" it really ruins the fun...isn't that why we made events...to have fun?
And what the hell have I been doing with my scout the last few months? I get mowed down by all those weapons every day...CCP couldn't use that data?
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1389
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:21:00 -
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Brings me back to the days where my corp would set up "Left (51)4 Dead" battles. It was when you could set up corp battles against other corps. We made an alt corp and put 1 guy in there and let them use whatever weapon they wanted, then 8 of us would be on the enemy side but only use scouts and nova knives.
I think we went like 2-40 the first battle because I quite frankly suck with Nova Knives, but it was hilariously fun to have one guy with a gun running away from 8 'zombies' trying to melee him to death.
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Oswald Rehnquist
1060
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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:33:00 -
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lol, just troll ccp back
the rewards for being a scout sucks if your 1) not a proto gal/min scout or 2) a knifer,
but that free 10 mill can be obtain to help continue my cal fw habits, thus use the buddy system create scout alts and get that free 10 mill
poof, CCP counter trolled
Below 28 dB
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1001
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Posted - 2014.01.10 17:11:00 -
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I could put my scout suit inside my tank, that would be fair right?
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
3895
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Posted - 2014.01.10 17:13:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:I could put my scout suit inside my tank, that would be fair right? No one in a tank is being fair lol
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
1544
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Posted - 2014.01.10 17:14:00 -
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I was really tempted. Then I realized I have no knives in dust as a scout. So meh.
I'm shotty scout. always have been. The "turn around" BOOM your dead kind. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1525
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:08:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:You have 13 million SP and you don't need more? Then youre definitely doing something wrong. I could use more, but it's not worth being a scout in this event for it.
Coreskills: Dropsuites Upgrades, Engineering, Electronics, Hacking, Shieldupgrades, Armorupgrades, Weapon Upgrades, Precision, Dampener, maxing out your weapon of choice ... you have A LOT to spend without "wasting" anything.
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
2033
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:30:00 -
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I may be in a tiny minority of players but being a non-knifing scout, this is the worst possible set up for any event I could imagine. I stand a chance of getting a few scout kills but will be a rewardable target for everyone else too, whilst not getting any rewards for the kills I get in my scout suit because I don't NK.
Cheers CCP, I just came back from a month holiday and was looking forward to playing again but looks like I'll have to take a break again for a couple of weeks because of this.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
330
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:33:00 -
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From what I understand , they make adjustments threw the data that is collected , now maybe this event is like a fact finding mission of sorts to compare and double check that data that has been obtained over the past months and also from the " Black Eagle event " , this data is being compared to make the final adjustments to the scout class for the racial release .
This is prob a way for them to see how they would like to implement the cloaking specks for that release as well .
Wonder why they are calling all scouts to arms ??? Scouts should be willing to undergo this event , at least for the betterment of their class .
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
4019
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:35:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:You have 13 million SP and you don't need more? Then youre definitely doing something wrong. I have 32 million SP and I still need more. |
Dominus Fatali
Nox Aeterna Security
717
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:36:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:I may be in a tiny minority of players but being a non-knifing scout, this is the worst possible set up for any event I could imagine. I stand a chance of getting a few scout kills but will be a rewardable target for everyone else too, whilst not getting any rewards for the kills I get in my scout suit because I don't NK.
Cheers CCP, I just came back from a month holiday and was looking forward to playing again but looks like I'll have to take a break again for a couple of weeks because of this. Exactly this. I am in the same boat, in addition to not using any of the other weapons.
Long Live Freedom; Long Live the Federation.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
9859
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:37:00 -
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Would that make it, Operation Shinopey?
Assault Dropship Montage
Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1201
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:37:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:You have 13 million SP and you don't need more? Then youre definitely doing something wrong. How much SP do you think it takes to make the scout role viable?
KRRROOOOOOM
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
330
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:37:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I just hope the SP event isn't CCPs way of saying 'you aren't getting an infantry respec'
That would suck .
I would like to go strictly Mimi and Caldari with my weapons .
Future Caldari Heavy so watch out for this Sumo Shinobi with a Caldari HMG .
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
9860
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:42:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I just hope the SP event isn't CCPs way of saying 'you aren't getting an infantry respec'
That would suck . I would like to go strictly Mimi and Caldari with my weapons . According to Iron Wolf Saber in IRC CPM is pushing for a full respec, if that doesn't go through then the fallback would be an infantry respec (suits, upgrades, weapons)
So, as it stands, chances for a respec are strong, but not definite.
Assault Dropship Montage
Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University Ivy League
96
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:44:00 -
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Since the alternative is basically no events, I'm fine with any event.
Basically. |
Leonid Tybalt
Dark Knightz Corp.
114
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:46:00 -
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Light suit, medium suit, heavy suit. They're all equally crushed under the treads of my tank... |
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Qn1f3
Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2014.01.10 18:50:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:You have 13 million SP and you don't need more? Then youre definitely doing something wrong. How much SP do you think it takes to make the scout role viable?
Depends on what you think is viable? I have about 12 million SP into the Scout class and I think it's viable, but I agree with others, there is always something you need or want to but additional SP into.
Maybe I should calculate how much would be needed for my "completed" Scout build, because there are still a couple of millions of SP going down the Scout drain. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1527
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Posted - 2014.01.10 19:32:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:You have 13 million SP and you don't need more? Then youre definitely doing something wrong. How much SP do you think it takes to make the scout role viable?
Not playing a scout, but the core skills alone are more expensive than 13 million. Then you need a dropsuit, a weapon and at least 1 piece of equipment.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
1206
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Posted - 2014.01.10 19:42:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:You have 13 million SP and you don't need more? Then youre definitely doing something wrong. How much SP do you think it takes to make the scout role viable? Not playing a scout, but the core skills alone are more expensive than 13 million. Then you need a dropsuit, a weapon and at least 1 piece of equipment. lol I should have read more carefully, missed the don't (read as: 13 million SP and you need more). Apologies
It takes so much SP to be able to fit just to be able to get the CPU/PG viable on the Min scout suit, and with such a low slot count
KRRROOOOOOM
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
2033
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Posted - 2014.01.10 22:31:00 -
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Dominus Fatali wrote:Django Quik wrote:I may be in a tiny minority of players but being a non-knifing scout, this is the worst possible set up for any event I could imagine. I stand a chance of getting a few scout kills but will be a rewardable target for everyone else too, whilst not getting any rewards for the kills I get in my scout suit because I don't NK.
Cheers CCP, I just came back from a month holiday and was looking forward to playing again but looks like I'll have to take a break again for a couple of weeks because of this. Exactly this. I am in the same boat, in addition to not using any of the other weapons. Oh yeah, that's a point - I don't use rifles either, so no chance of any rewards whatsoever in this event for me. Joy. Even more joy.
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
1081
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Posted - 2014.01.10 23:01:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:You have 13 million SP and you don't need more? Then youre definitely doing something wrong. How much SP do you think it takes to make the scout role viable?
I think you need at least your core skills maxed to make any suit viable. I think it's 15 mil or so. |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation
686
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Posted - 2014.01.10 23:07:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:You have 13 million SP and you don't need more? Then youre definitely doing something wrong. There is something wrong with him, he ain't greedy like you.
Assassination is my thing.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1530
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Posted - 2014.01.11 04:18:00 -
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low genius wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:You have 13 million SP and you don't need more? Then youre definitely doing something wrong. How much SP do you think it takes to make the scout role viable? I think you need at least your core skills maxed to make any suit viable. I think it's 15 mil or so.
Dropsuit Upgrades - 150k Core Upgrades - 600k Armor Upgrades - 600k Shield Upgrades - 600k Biotic Upgrades - 600k Electronics - 1,5 Mil Engineering - 1,5 Mil Systems Hacking - 1,5 Mil Profile Dampening - 1 Mil Range Amplification - 1 Mil Precision Enhancement - 1 Mil Armor Plating - 1 Mil Shield Extension - 1 Mil Handheld Weapon Upgrades - 600k Grenades -
Especially for the Scout:
Cardiac Regulation - 1 Mil Kinetic Catalyzation - 1 Mil
That's 10 Million. And not even counting that you should max out 1 Light weapon and 1 Side Weapon as well as a Dropsuit and 1 piece of equipment which you're using. So I guess if you're not getting sidetracked at all that would be 20 Mil minimum.
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