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jenza aranda BetaMax. 2711	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:02:00 - [1] - Quote Hey all, Just a heads up that we had a meeting this morning with CCP peeps and among other things we spoke about both CPM candidate eligibility and voter eligibility. No solid info just yet but things are taking shape. The main thing I wanted to talk about here was the current pool of early peeps who have announced that they are running. Now obviously a lot can change between between now and when the ballots are ready to be counted but its more or less the overall consensus of the CPM that there is only perhaps one person so far that we, or at least I would endorse. I myself am not ready to say who they are but I have messaged them privately. The thing is, I think a lot of the vets already know who the best people are for the job, and thats the people who have been activly helping the community in their own way for a while now. I hope more of these people will step forward. I also want to make it quite clear that not being in the CPM does not mean you can't help the community and the game in various ways! A short post on the forums will do very little to encourage the older players that you are an asset but actions will. There is still PLENTY of time before voting, so all you aspiring CPMers get out there and show what you can do without CCP's help, then let us imagine what you can do with a little boost (if you have the time between the meetings ) Best of luck, Jenza Aranda // Jennifer Murray CPM0 EDIT: P.S. feel free to contact me in IRC or skype (jenza514) Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
Aero Yassavi Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 4583	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:17:00 - [2] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: there is only perhaps one person so far that we, or at least I would endorse. And what if I don't endorse you? Why does your endorsement mean so much? And why are you acting like you are completely safe and will be a shoe-in for CPM1? It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 7707	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:17:00 - [3] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Now obviously a lot can change between between now and when the ballots are ready to be counted but its more or less the overall consensus of the CPM that there is only perhaps one person so far that we, or at least I would endorse. It was always going to be this way. 99% of this community probably struggle to breathe properly. Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 7707	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:18:00 - [4] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: jenza aranda wrote: there is only perhaps one person so far that we, or at least I would endorse. And what if I don't endorse you? Why does your endorsement mean so much? And why are you acting like you are completely safe and will be a shoe-in for CPM1? Why do you get the impression she is running for CPM1? Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3249	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:19:00 - [5] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: jenza aranda wrote: there is only perhaps one person so far that we, or at least I would endorse. And what if I don't endorse you? Why does your endorsement mean so much? And why are you acting like you are completely safe and will be a shoe-in for CPM1? I though none of the CPM0 members were running for CPM1 CoD -----> <----- WoT Please AR and Tank scrubs, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1365	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:20:00 - [6] - Quote I'm not a fan of flaunting on the forums too much which is why I haven't brought it up in a very open manner. However I'll get in touch with you sometime tonight, at the very least it'll be nice to catch up with an old closed beta acquaintance ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes
jenza aranda BetaMax. 2717	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:22:00 - [7] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: I'm not a fan of flaunting on the forums too much which is why I haven't brought it up in a very open manner. However I'll get in touch with you sometime tonight, at the very least it'll be nice to catch up with an old closed beta acquaintance sounds great! I havn't spoken to you in ages lol And yeah, although i have been encouraged to run by a few, Ill have to really think about it. But for the moment i am not running, mainly as I know whats in store for CPM1 lol Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
Aero Yassavi Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 4584	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:24:00 - [8] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: jenza aranda wrote: there is only perhaps one person so far that we, or at least I would endorse. And what if I don't endorse you? Why does your endorsement mean so much? And why are you acting like you are completely safe and will be a shoe-in for CPM1? Why do you get the impression she is running for CPM1? Given what she wrote in this thread, what gives you the impression that she is not running for CPM1? And I don't mean to pick-on Jenza individually, this is more of a concern across the entire CPM0. Some of them have done a great job, others not so much. And I'm not saying Jenza has or has not done a great job. All I'm saying is that I fear regardless of how this whole voting thing goes the incumbents of the CPM who wish to return don't have much to worry about. I could be wrong, however. It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1365	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:27:00 - [9] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: I'm not a fan of flaunting on the forums too much which is why I haven't brought it up in a very open manner. However I'll get in touch with you sometime tonight, at the very least it'll be nice to catch up with an old closed beta acquaintance sounds great! I havn't spoken to you in ages lol And yeah, although i have been encouraged to run by a few, Ill have to really think about it. But for the moment i am not running, mainly as I know whats in store for CPM1 lol So it's going to be a living hell for CPM1? Sweet, I love when it sucks. ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1022	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:31:00 - [10] - Quote Glad to hear progress is being made. I do hope we get a CPM0 member in CPM1, though in general, it'll be nice to have fresh blood, with no offense intended to any of the current CPM. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate

R F Gyro Clones 4u 927	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:33:00 - [11] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: jenza aranda wrote: there is only perhaps one person so far that we, or at least I would endorse. And what if I don't endorse you? Why does your endorsement mean so much? And why are you acting like you are completely safe and will be a shoe-in for CPM1? Why do you get the impression she is running for CPM1? Given what she wrote in this thread, what gives you the impression that she is not running for CPM1? And I don't mean to pick-on Jenza individually, this is more of a concern across the entire CPM0. Some of them have done a great job, others not so much. And I'm not saying Jenza has or has not done a great job. All I'm saying is that I fear regardless of how this whole voting thing goes the incumbents of the CPM who wish to return don't have much to worry about. I could be wrong, however. I hope there is at least some CPM0 experience on CPM1, or the whole mob will have to learn how to work effectively from CCP, from scratch [shudder]. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 677	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:35:00 - [12] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: ..... But for the moment i am not running, mainly as I know whats in store for CPM1 lol You have mentioned this in other posts or sideways referenced it at least. It's a bit at odds with the way @KainSpero gushes about how the new EP wants community involvement and feedback. One would think that increases the CPM capabilities as a viable conduit for the community and highlight the role in development process. Do you believe the relevancy of the CPM will be diminishing or were you simply referening to the frustrations of the being an observer/advisor with constraints on how you can communicate to the Dust Community? Just curious.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1365	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:36:00 - [13] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: I hope there is at least some CPM0 experience on CPM1, or the whole mob will have to learn how to work effectively from CCP, from scratch [shudder]. They can always call them in as consultants. Besides there are actually a number of people who are not on the CPM0 that have experience working with CCP directly. ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes
Foundation Seldon Gespenster Kompanie 371	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:38:00 - [14] - Quote The only viable new candidate is Judge. Beyond that I don't see myself voting for anyone other than current (non-Kain) CPM ... if they choose to run again. Saga v. Methana Balance
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 742	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:45:00 - [15] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Hey all, Just a heads up that we had a meeting this morning with CCP peeps and among other things we spoke about both CPM candidate eligibility and voter eligibility. No solid info just yet but things are taking shape. The main thing I wanted to talk about here was the current pool of early peeps who have announced that they are running. Now obviously a lot can change between between now and when the ballots are ready to be counted but its more or less the overall consensus of the CPM that there is only perhaps one person so far that we, or at least I would endorse. I myself am not ready to say who they are but I have messaged them privately. The thing is, I think a lot of the vets already know who the best people are for the job, and thats the people who have been activly helping the community in their own way for a while now. I hope more of these people will step forward. I also want to make it quite clear that not being in the CPM does not mean you can't help the community and the game in various ways! A short post on the forums will do very little to encourage the older players that you are an asset but actions will. There is still PLENTY of time before voting, so all you aspiring CPMers get out there and show what you can do without CCP's help, then let us imagine what you can do with a little boost (if you have the time between the meetings ) Best of luck, Jenza Aranda // Jennifer Murray CPM0 EDIT: P.S. feel free to contact me in IRC or skype (jenza514) What gives you the right to do the following ?! : "The main thing I wanted to talk about here was the current pool of early peeps who have announced that they are running. Now obviously a lot can change between between now and when the ballots are ready to be counted but its more or less the overall consensus of the CPM that there is only perhaps one person so far that we, or at least I would endorse. I myself am not ready to say who they are but I have messaged them privately. " It's the players who would vote and decide who gets nominated and who wins Having a CPM election: "I also want to make it quite clear that not being in the CPM does not mean you can't help the community and the game in various ways! A short post on the forums will do very little to encourage the older players that you are an asset but actions will. There is still PLENTY of time before voting, so all you aspiring CPMers get out there and show what you can do without CCP's help, then let us imagine what you can do with a little boost (if you have the time between the meetings " Let the players be the Judge of that.... Not clear about how CPM elections work. But my 2 cents for elections: * Older council gets disbanded (which all current CPM members step down) * Temp council or election board monitors/ Election council handles election (Makes is fair and doesn't give anyone any advantage) * Old members (If they wanna run again for the position) and new people do the election campaign * Votes are posted * Results * New council is formed Democracy
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 677	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:49:00 - [16] - Quote Foundation Seldon wrote: The only viable new candidate is JudgeRhadamanthus. Beyond that I don't see myself voting for anyone other than current (non-Kain) CPM ... if they choose to run again. I'll definetly grant you that Judge has the knowledge, experience, and communication skills to be a quality CPM candidate. That said, I think there are several folks that potentially have the capability and capacity to replace some of the CPM and do at least as well if not better. This isn't a jab at CPM0...more just an observation that the community has quite a few experienced and committed members among its ranks.
jenza aranda BetaMax. 2718	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:52:00 - [17] - Quote just to clarify we have a very long list of people we would love to see run, though it seems hardly any of them have shown an interest so far. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 743	Posted - 2014.01.09 19:58:00 - [18] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: just to clarify we have a very long list of people we would love to see run, though it seems hardly any of them have shown an interest so far. Who's "WE" ?! If it is an election, then the party interested should run for the position. There are a few players i'd like to nominate, but it should up to the player if they wanna run for it. Not decided or pushed by Current CPM or CCP. Wont be much of an election then... More of a puppet and puppet master thing
NAV HlV Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:01:00 - [19] - Quote
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 744	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:02:00 - [20] - Quote NAV HlV wrote: I would nominate charlotte o Dell no one is more unbiased and level headed. Nice to finally meet you too... Shame you can't try and argue properly with your actual name...

Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 7717	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:04:00 - [21] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: jenza aranda wrote: just to clarify we have a very long list of people we would love to see run, though it seems hardly any of them have shown an interest so far. Who's "WE" ?! If it is an election, then the party interested should run for the position. There are a few players i'd like to nominate, but it should up to the player if they wanna run for it. Not decided or pushed by Current CPM or CCP. Wont be much of an election then... More of a puppet and puppet master thing Oh, do quit your whining. She obviously means the CPM. And actually, she has a hell of a lot more experience of the CPM than you. I should think they know what they're talking about. I'm sure you'll bash your head against your poor keyboard and try to deny that, but it is quite simple. Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 745	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:09:00 - [22] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: NAV HIV wrote: jenza aranda wrote: just to clarify we have a very long list of people we would love to see run, though it seems hardly any of them have shown an interest so far. Who's "WE" ?! If it is an election, then the party interested should run for the position. There are a few players i'd like to nominate, but it should up to the player if they wanna run for it. Not decided or pushed by Current CPM or CCP. Wont be much of an election then... More of a puppet and puppet master thing Oh, do quit your whining. She obviously means the CPM. And actually, she has a hell of a lot more experience of the CPM than you. I should think they know what they're talking about. I'm sure you'll bash your head against your poor keyboard and try to deny that, but it is quite simple. Of course she has, DUH! Genius! . . . Not saying she doesn't... Not whining either. I'm not running for it. So i could care less. Either way she hasn't done much to help us either. Wasn't voted by the community either. but that's not the point. So drop the fanboi act. Hypocracy vs impartial election. Don't call it an election then. Call it transfer of a few names or just bumping your buddies. Not Election... "I'm sure you'll bash your head against your poor keyboard and try to deny that, but it is quite simple." - actually using a very expensive one... But wouldn't change the facts. Words would still remain the same and viable
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2109	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:09:00 - [23] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: jenza aranda wrote: there is only perhaps one person so far that we, or at least I would endorse. And what if I don't endorse you? Why does your endorsement mean so much? And why are you acting like you are completely safe and will be a shoe-in for CPM1? She was probably talking about Poonmunch. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 745	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:11:00 - [24] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: jenza aranda wrote: there is only perhaps one person so far that we, or at least I would endorse. And what if I don't endorse you? Why does your endorsement mean so much? And why are you acting like you are completely safe and will be a shoe-in for CPM1? Why do you get the impression she is running for CPM1? I'm guessing she is nominating you then... Atleast it would seem so with the fanboi act.... Try to deny what i said earlier with your expensive keyboard. Don't break it while you are at it
Mithridates VI Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2618	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:18:00 - [25] - Quote ITT: NAV HIV takes least charitable interpretation of every single post and runs with it, entirely missing every point they come across. Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 746	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:22:00 - [26] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: ITT: NAV HIV takes least charitable interpretation of every single post and runs with it, entirely missing every point they come across. Sure... The same way people use logic here...
Aero Yassavi Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 4595	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:25:00 - [27] - Quote There is some truth to this all, though. If CCP is going to champion this as an election, then it doesn't make much sense that they would be pushing certain people for the spots. Not saying there is anything wrong with that, in fact it really makes more sense (to avoid popularity contests), but if that is the case then you can't really call this an election. It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
GET ATMESON Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 209	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:27:00 - [28] - Quote Why wasnt this posted up 3 months ago? smh smh. 1.7 HMG hotfix works great. Now for more Heavy suits or guns soonGäó
Mithridates VI Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2618	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:27:00 - [29] - Quote It's an election in which the CPM are totally welcome to say that they don't think most of the candidates are up to the job. For the record, I don't think most of the candidates thus far are up to the job. Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 747	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:30:00 - [30] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: It's an election in which the CPM are totally welcome to say that they don't think most of the candidates are up to the job. For the record, I don't think most of the candidates thus far are up to the job. Only Kain and Wolf has been seen trying to fix more things. Not saying much against the rest. But How do you conduct a proper election with the ruling party still in a position to influence decision?! Don't call it an election then

Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1022	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:32:00 - [31] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: There is some truth to this all, though. If CCP is going to champion this as an election, then it doesn't make much sense that they would be pushing certain people for the spots. Not saying there is anything wrong with that, in fact it really makes more sense (to avoid popularity contests), but if that is the case then you can't really call this an election. CCP isn't going to recommend people run, but CPM can. And while CCP isn't going to endorse candidates, the CPM can. Does not one commonly see candidates in elections seeking endorsements from former presidents and other political figures? I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Mithridates VI Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2619	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:33:00 - [32] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: jenza aranda wrote: just to clarify we have a very long list of people we would love to see run, though it seems hardly any of them have shown an interest so far. Who's "WE" ?! If it is an election, then the party interested should run for the position. There are a few players i'd like to nominate, but it should up to the player if they wanna run for it. Not decided or pushed by Current CPM or CCP. Wont be much of an election then... More of a puppet and puppet master thing It's a very simple equation wherein anyone who wants to run and is eligible can run but the CPM remain free to comment, with their being the experts in the capabilities required, on who they believe to be a good fit for the role. What part of that is difficult? They're not proposing that they strictly choose their successors. Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1022	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:34:00 - [33] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: But How do you conduct a proper election with the ruling party still in a position to influence decision?! Don't call it an election then Is not the President elected while the previous President is in office? Does not the President generally endorse a candidate they think would be a good successor to them? Also... CPM... ruling party? Not really, no. EDIT: Also note that the CPM0 was originally intended solely to help draft the manner of electing CPM. So in actuality, this is CCP and the CPM0 finally actually what was intended. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Severance Pay Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 991	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:35:00 - [34] - Quote I think that we should take a page out of the SCEA playbook. Sony selected made a website for the TESTER and let people open register for the positions. Registered candidates posted videos and platforms for why they think they are the best choices. Viewers could then browse profiles and watch videos to better inform themselves of the candidate options. Would be nice to give my own input on each and every selection and place my own vote. You will have to forgive me if I do not trust the competency of CCP's selection process. Let's do this nice and democratic like old school 13 colonies style. We should also put in place a means to remove members and replace them mid term. We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2110	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:36:00 - [35] - Quote The lack of reading comprehension in this thread is astounding. Let me clarify some things for those who misunderstood. - CPM0 has influence in deciding the mechanics of how the election will be run, as that was part of their mandate. - CPM0 has zero power to influence who gets nominated or elected, other than the fact that many will listen to their opinions because they are CPM0. - We should care about CPM0's opinions on the quality of candidates signing up for CPM1 because CPM0 has some idea of what is involved in the position. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
Mithridates VI Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2619	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:37:00 - [36] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: It's an election in which the CPM are totally welcome to say that they don't think most of the candidates are up to the job. For the record, I don't think most of the candidates thus far are up to the job. Only Kain and Wolf has been seen trying to fix more things. Not saying much against the rest. But How do you conduct a proper election with the ruling party still in a position to influence decision?! Don't call it an election then Lol, the ruling party. Yeah, the CPM are kings. Gods among men, during their term. Definitely that and not the underappreciated (by playerbase and CCP), underutilised resource given a thankless job to do and then scorned at every possible opportunity when they try to do it, yet still expected to continue to work at it until their hope dies completely. More likely that they're the most powerful players in the game. Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER TeamPlayers 2607	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:41:00 - [37] - Quote ToooooGa.....TooooooooGa... o I mean.. SooooooTa.....SooooooTa don't forget what wins any election... money and p0rn Common Sense and *Logic* are 2 things you have to forget when posting on these forums.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9825	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:41:00 - [38] - Quote "Election" implies an informed voter base I prefer "popularity contest" What's the plan to stop people from just voting with all their alts? Will there be some kind of timer on accounts that tracks if we've been active all month or something? Some people have 10's if not 100's of alts, and I imagine the turn out for voters to be pretty damn small when blueberries still don't know they can spend SP Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
Mithridates VI Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2624	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:42:00 - [39] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: "Election" implies an informed voter base I prefer "popularity contest" This is an unfortunately probable scenario. Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 748	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:44:00 - [40] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: NAV HIV wrote: jenza aranda wrote: just to clarify we have a very long list of people we would love to see run, though it seems hardly any of them have shown an interest so far. Who's "WE" ?! If it is an election, then the party interested should run for the position. There are a few players i'd like to nominate, but it should up to the player if they wanna run for it. Not decided or pushed by Current CPM or CCP. Wont be much of an election then... More of a puppet and puppet master thing It's a very simple equation wherein anyone who wants to run and is eligible can run but the CPM remain free to comment, with their being the experts in the capabilities required, on who they believe to be a good fit for the role. What part of that is difficult? They're not proposing that they strictly choose their successors. Incase you missed this part: "Just a heads up that we had a meeting this morning with CCP peeps and among other things we spoke about both CPM candidate eligibility and voter eligibility."

Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1023	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:45:00 - [41] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: "Election" implies an informed voter base I prefer "popularity contest" What's the plan to stop people from just voting with all their alts? Will there be some kind of timer on accounts that tracks if we've been active all month or something? Some people have 10's if not 100's of alts. Then the goal of any interested party, whether a candidate or not, should be to get as much information about candidates as possible. Surveys and comparisons and such. (I know I've voted for CSM more than once based on the results of such a site.) As well as encouraging as many as possible to vote. Non-forum players probably have not even heard of most of the "celebrity players" and vote based on the facts, so the goal should be to reach as many of those players as possible, and convince them that their votes count. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 748	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:45:00 - [42] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: It's an election in which the CPM are totally welcome to say that they don't think most of the candidates are up to the job. For the record, I don't think most of the candidates thus far are up to the job. Only Kain and Wolf has been seen trying to fix more things. Not saying much against the rest. But How do you conduct a proper election with the ruling party still in a position to influence decision?! Don't call it an election then Lol, the ruling party. Yeah, the CPM are kings. Gods among men, during their term. Definitely that and not the underappreciated (by playerbase and CCP), underutilised resource given a thankless job to do and then scorned at every possible opportunity when they try to do it, yet still expected to continue to work at it until their hope dies completely. More likely that they're the most powerful players in the game. As long as they were that CPM badge they are still considered as the current ruling CPM... Doesn't have anything to do with their job roles or what has happened. Should've stepped down if they didn't like it
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 748	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:46:00 - [43] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: "Election" implies an informed voter base I prefer "popularity contest" What's the plan to stop people from just voting with all their alts? Will there be some kind of timer on accounts that tracks if we've been active all month or something? Some people have 10's if not 100's of alts. Then the goal of any interested party, whether a candidate or not, should be to get as much information about candidates as possible. Surveys and comparisons and such. (I know I've voted for CSM more than once based on the results of such a site.) As well as encouraging as many as possible to vote. Non-forum players probably have not even heard of most of the "celebrity players" and vote based on the facts, so the goal should be to reach as many of those players as possible, and convince them that their votes count. Sounds great. In-game update section ?! Market place ?!
Mithridates VI Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2624	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:46:00 - [44] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Incase you missed this part: "Just a heads up that we had a meeting this morning with CCP peeps and among other things we spoke about both CPM candidate eligibility and voter eligibility." Yeah. You can't run if you're five years old. You can't vote 500 times from 500 alts. You can't run unless you can travel internationally. Did you expect the election to have no rules? Remember that part where I said you were taking the least charitable interpretation? Stop ascribing malice to totally innocent comments. Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1023	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:47:00 - [45] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: What part of that is difficult? They're not proposing that they strictly choose their successors. Incase you missed this part: "Just a heads up that we had a meeting this morning with CCP peeps and among other things we spoke about both CPM candidate eligibility and voter eligibility." The CPM0's entire job was to help CCP determine how to run CPM elections. They weren't even supposed to be doing other CPM-y things, but the fact that the game sucked kinda intervened and delayed things. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9825	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:47:00 - [46] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Incase you missed this part: "Just a heads up that we had a meeting this morning with CCP peeps and among other things we spoke about both CPM candidate eligibility and voter eligibility." CPM had a discussion about an important topic with CCP.... Your point? Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1023	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:49:00 - [47] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Sounds great. In-game update section ?! Market place ?! Hopefully, CCP will utilize the in-game update section to it's full potential to announce the election and encourage people to vote. As players, we're limited in what we can access, so we have in-game mail and chat. Corp CEOs and Directors should mail their corps and alliances and encourage them to vote. If you're chatting in local chat with people, encourage them to vote. Use the communication tools CCP has given us to get people looking at the election and considering who they'll vote for. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 748	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:50:00 - [48] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Incase you missed this part: "Just a heads up that we had a meeting this morning with CCP peeps and among other things we spoke about both CPM candidate eligibility and voter eligibility." CPM had a discussion about an important topic with CCP.... Your point? Followed by: "The main thing I wanted to talk about here was the current pool of early peeps who have announced that they are running. Now obviously a lot can change between between now and when the ballots are ready to be counted but its more or less the overall consensus of the CPM that there is only perhaps one person so far that we, or at least I would endorse. I myself am not ready to say who they are but I have messaged them privately. " Am i the only one who actually read it properly ?!
Mithridates VI Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2624	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:52:00 - [49] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Am i the only one who actually read it properly ?! You're the only one who read it the way you did. Perhaps that's a sign you should reconsider your reading? Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9826	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:54:00 - [50] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Incase you missed this part: "Just a heads up that we had a meeting this morning with CCP peeps and among other things we spoke about both CPM candidate eligibility and voter eligibility." CPM had a discussion about an important topic with CCP.... Your point? Followed by: "The main thing I wanted to talk about here was the current pool of early peeps who have announced that they are running. Now obviously a lot can change between between now and when the ballots are ready to be counted but its more or less the overall consensus of the CPM that there is only perhaps one person so far that we, or at least I would endorse. I myself am not ready to say who they are but I have messaged them privately. " Am i the only one who actually read it properly ?! I'm with her, most of the candidates I've seen are laughable at best. A couple are solid choices I'd think, but they're entirely within their right to express their opinions and concerns about the position that they know of. Assault Dropship Montage Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict

Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2112	Posted - 2014.01.09 20:57:00 - [51] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: There is some truth to this all, though. If CCP is going to champion this as an election, then it doesn't make much sense that they would be pushing certain people for the spots. Not saying there is anything wrong with that, in fact it really makes more sense (to avoid popularity contests), but if that is the case then you can't really call this an election. CPM0 is not CCP. CPM0 is hoping that the people elected to replace them are competent to do the job. CPM0 is likely getting very nervous about the pool of clowns who have announced their candidacy so far. Only one or two serious candidates as far as I can see. CPM0 read the forums, so they obviously would have an idea of who the people are who are intelligent, balanced, and committed enough to do a good job. Of course they are hoping that some of those people will run. Jenza said she contacted one promising candidate privately AFTER they announced they were running. Jenza did not even say who that person was, or who the other people CPM0 might support are. I donGÇÖt see any evidence that they are pushing certain people for the spots. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else, there is the Learning Coalition.
jenza aranda BetaMax. 2719	Posted - 2014.01.09 21:05:00 - [52] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: There is some truth to this all, though. If CCP is going to champion this as an election, then it doesn't make much sense that they would be pushing certain people for the spots. Not saying there is anything wrong with that, in fact it really makes more sense (to avoid popularity contests), but if that is the case then you can't really call this an election. CPM0 is not CCP. CPM0 is hoping that the people elected to replace them are competent to do the job. CPM0 is likely getting very nervous about the pool of clowns who have announced their candidacy so far. Only one or two serious candidates as far as I can see. CPM0 read the forums, so they obviously would have an idea of who the people are who are intelligent, balanced, and committed enough to do a good job. Of course they are hoping that some of those people will run. Jenza said she contacted one promising candidate privately AFTER they announced they were running. Jenza did not even say who that person was, or who the other people CPM0 might support are. I donGÇÖt see any evidence that they are pushing certain people for the spots. Sir, you are a scholar and a gentleman. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
Severance Pay Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 993	Posted - 2014.01.09 21:39:00 - [53] - Quote On the one hand, we the players are the only ones qualified to select someone to represent us. After all, those seeking representation should be able to select their representatives. We all want to pick the right people for the job and we all want to be responsible for it. This is a key turning point when we figure out how the masses will be represented for the duration of the DUST514's existence. On the other hand, we are not qualified to select the "right" representatives. Meaning, it has not been proven how many of us if any are capable of making an informed decision of who can properly represent people that cannot represent themselves. I can't make a list of qualifications a person must have, because I don't know them all. I know a few, and they are debatable. I don't want to vote in an asshat that may possibly steer DUST514 into the ocean, nor do I want to be responsible for it. My belief is that the current CPM0 should hold a constitutional convention, and write one. We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1028	Posted - 2014.01.09 21:43:00 - [54] - Quote Severance Pay wrote: I don't want to vote in an asshat that may possibly steer DUST514 into the ocean, nor do I want to be responsible for it. My belief is that the current CPM0 should hold a constitutional convention, and write one. The CPM are player reps, not a ruling body. The CPM isn't "steering the game". They're consulting from a player perspective. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1375	Posted - 2014.01.09 21:45:00 - [55] - Quote Severance Pay wrote: On the one hand, we the players are the only ones qualified to select someone to represent us. After all, those seeking representation should be able to select their representatives. We all want to pick the right people for the job and we all want to be responsible for it. This is a key turning point when we figure out how the masses will be represented for the duration of the DUST514's existence. On the other hand, we are not qualified to select the "right" representatives. Meaning, it has not been proven how many of us if any are capable of making an informed decision of who can properly represent people that cannot represent themselves. I can't make a list of qualifications a person must have, because I don't know them all. I know a few, and they are debatable. I don't want to vote in an asshat that may possibly steer DUST514 into the ocean, nor do I want to be responsible for it. My belief is that the current CPM0 should hold a constitutional convention, and write one. I think the fear is a valid one, that often the most unqualified and uniformed have the loudest voice, and thus draw the most attention. It is a problem we see in modern politics, and it is not necessarily a failure of the voter base, but rather a failure of the social dynamic. If anything I think what jenza is trying to get at is that people should be less focused on how visible candidates are, and more on what they do and what they are capable of doing if given such a position. More often than not, the quiet one in the room is often the one thinking about what they're going to say, rather than just saying whatever comes to mind. It is difficult to do, but I think their intent is to encourage the voter base to look more at the people who are not jumping around with their hand in the air yelling "PICK ME PICK ME!" ADS Reports - Defining Racial Themes
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 399	Posted - 2014.01.09 21:51:00 - [56] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Hey all, Just a heads up that we had a meeting this morning with CCP peeps and among other things we spoke about both CPM candidate eligibility and voter eligibility. No solid info just yet but things are taking shape. The main thing I wanted to talk about here was the current pool of early peeps who have announced that they are running. Now obviously a lot can change between between now and when the ballots are ready to be counted but its more or less the overall consensus of the CPM that there is only perhaps one person so far that we, or at least I would endorse. I myself am not ready to say who they are but I have messaged them privately. The thing is, I think a lot of the vets already know who the best people are for the job, and thats the people who have been activly helping the community in their own way for a while now. I hope more of these people will step forward. I also want to make it quite clear that not being in the CPM does not mean you can't help the community and the game in various ways! A short post on the forums will do very little to encourage the older players that you are an asset but actions will. There is still PLENTY of time before voting, so all you aspiring CPMers get out there and show what you can do without CCP's help, then let us imagine what you can do with a little boost (if you have the time between the meetings ) Best of luck, Jenza Aranda // Jennifer Murray CPM0 EDIT: P.S. feel free to contact me in IRC or skype (jenza514) Vote Tebu Gan, he won't be a ** like most of the current CPMs, and FREE BEER for everyone when I get elected. Ok jokes aside, **. Nevermind, I just spilled ketchup on my keyboard. Now I'm pisssssed. Edit Now I remember, does CCP pay you or is that a volunteer position. Would have to be some dedicated fellas to volunteer! Nuff Said
jenza aranda BetaMax. 2725	Posted - 2014.01.09 22:21:00 - [57] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: Vote Tebu Gan, he won't be a ** like most of the current CPMs, and FREE BEER for everyone when I get elected. Ok jokes aside, . Nevermind, I just spilled ketchup on my keyboard. Now I'm pisssssed. Edit Now I remember, does CCP pay you or is that a volunteer position. Would have to be some dedicated fellas to volunteer! so.... you are putting your hand up for CPM and yet you dont know that it is in fact a voluntary position.... good luck on your campaign.... Quote:** If anything I think what jenza is trying to get at is that people should be less focused on how visible candidates are, and more on what they do and what they are capable of doing if given such a position. More often than not, the quiet one in the room is often the one thinking about what they're going to say, rather than just saying whatever comes to mind. This, and i want any person who has just put up a fancy looking post with a lot of promises if they get into the CPM to actually demonstrate what they can do for the community. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
Aero Yassavi Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 4604	Posted - 2014.01.10 00:08:00 - [58] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: There is some truth to this all, though. If CCP is going to champion this as an election, then it doesn't make much sense that they would be pushing certain people for the spots. Not saying there is anything wrong with that, in fact it really makes more sense (to avoid popularity contests), but if that is the case then you can't really call this an election. CPM0 is not CCP. CPM0 is hoping that the people elected to replace them are competent to do the job. CPM0 is likely getting very nervous about the pool of clowns who have announced their candidacy so far. Only one or two serious candidates as far as I can see. CPM0 read the forums, so they obviously would have an idea of who the people are who are intelligent, balanced, and committed enough to do a good job. Of course they are hoping that some of those people will run. Jenza said she contacted one promising candidate privately AFTER they announced they were running. Jenza did not even say who that person was, or who the other people CPM0 might support are. I donGÇÖt see any evidence that they are pushing certain people for the spots. I never said CPM0 is CCP. All I'm saying is there could easily be a scenario where CCP tells CPM0 some of the people they think would fit the role, and then CPM0 endorse them. I am not saying this is the case, I am only saying it could be a scenario. And honestly I am not sure how much some CPM0 members read the forums or keep up with Dust and the community. Quite honestly, I'm really skeptical about how much this will truly be an election when it is a FreetoPlay game and an FPS where the whole idea of a CPM seems foreign to most the audience. Obviously last time CCP didn't believe we were ready for an election, and while they may say it is an election now, how sincere of an election? I believe this is a fair concern, and one I am not alone in sharing. It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's Super Amarr!
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 677	Posted - 2014.01.10 00:29:00 - [59] - Quote delete
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 677	Posted - 2014.01.10 00:32:00 - [60] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Severance Pay wrote: On the one hand, we the players are the only ones qualified to select someone to represent us. After all, those seeking representation should be able to select their representatives. We all want to pick the right people for the job and we all want to be responsible for it. This is a key turning point when we figure out how the masses will be represented for the duration of the DUST514's existence. On the other hand, we are not qualified to select the "right" representatives. Meaning, it has not been proven how many of us if any are capable of making an informed decision of who can properly represent people that cannot represent themselves. I can't make a list of qualifications a person must have, because I don't know them all. I know a few, and they are debatable. I don't want to vote in an asshat that may possibly steer DUST514 into the ocean, nor do I want to be responsible for it. My belief is that the current CPM0 should hold a constitutional convention, and write one. I think the fear is a valid one, that often the most unqualified and uniformed have the loudest voice, and thus draw the most attention. It is a problem we see in modern politics, and it is not necessarily a failure of the voter base, but rather a failure of the social dynamic. If anything I think what jenza is trying to get at is that people should be less focused on how visible candidates are, and more on what they do and what they are capable of doing if given such a position. More often than not, the quiet one in the room is often the one thinking about what they're going to say, rather than just saying whatever comes to mind. It is difficult to do, but I think their intent is to encourage the voter base to look more at the people who are not jumping around with their hand in the air yelling "PICK ME PICK ME!" Pokey...100% agree with you and I do have a question / caveat. At some point, one has to draw attention that they are putting their name forward for CPM otherwise you get zero consideration. As with any election, the time for quietly contributing to the community is rapidly coming to a close. I agree there are some solid candidates out there that may not have stepped up; they will HAVE to publicly step up and demonstrate why others that haven't noticed their work should vote for them, correct? No matter what...you have to campaign to be elected. Campaigning is just a fancy and/or organized way of saying "Pick Me!".

Galthur CrimeWave Syndicate 208	Posted - 2014.01.10 00:39:00 - [61] - Quote My vote will be for Kain and Wolf immediately if the re-run, which they should to help maintain a connection between CCP and CPM something that would be hard with all new people and to help the new CPM's amoung them Seasoned players never left academy because it did not exist, that's why we fight alongside and against noobs.
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1032	Posted - 2014.01.10 04:36:00 - [62] - Quote With any hope, CCP is offering the Wright-STV system for this, meaning you'll be able to vote for multiple candidates in the order of your preference. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
I-Shayz-I I-----I 1878	Posted - 2014.01.10 04:41:00 - [63] - Quote At first I wanted to, but I would rather keep spending my time making videos than be involved like you are. Not enoug time in the world for everything. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2516	Posted - 2014.01.10 04:47:00 - [64] - Quote If my current employment didn't make running for the CPM extremely problematic I would have loved to have thrown my hat into the ring. The ability to work directly with CCP would have been an interesting experience to say the least. I wonder if they would have felt the same way. // Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 801	Posted - 2014.01.10 04:54:00 - [65] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: I hope there is at least some CPM0 experience on CPM1, or the whole mob will have to learn how to work effectively from CCP, from scratch [shudder]. We think there'll be a "handover period" - where CPM0 can help ease CPM1 in to their new role. Soraya Xel wrote: With any hope, CCP is offering the Wright-STV system for this, meaning you'll be able to vote for multiple candidates in the order of your preference. That is the current plan I believe. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2516	Posted - 2014.01.10 05:00:00 - [66] - Quote @CCP Saberwing Have you figured out how to prevent using an army of alts to pad voting? EVE has it easy with using paying accounts. // Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 803	Posted - 2014.01.10 05:01:00 - [67] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: @CCP Saberwing Have you figured out how to prevent using an army of alts to pad voting? EVE has it easy with using paying accounts. Definitely a concern for us and we're working on it with the CPM. :) CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11801	Posted - 2014.01.10 05:07:00 - [68] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: It's an election in which the CPM are totally welcome to say that they don't think most of the candidates are up to the job. For the record, I don't think most of the candidates thus far are up to the job. Only Kain and Wolf has been seen trying to fix more things. Not saying much against the rest. But How do you conduct a proper election with the ruling party still in a position to influence decision?! Don't call it an election then That's an easy one, they should be the ones that have been trying to out do us since the CPM has been seated. Remember Community pros are just as influential as any ol CPM member ever could be when it comes to trying to fix face value of the game. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 1004	Posted - 2014.01.10 05:08:00 - [69] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: @CCP Saberwing Have you figured out how to prevent using an army of alts to pad voting? EVE has it easy with using paying accounts. Definitely a concern for us and we're working on it with the CPM. :) it's simple. IP RESTRICTIONS. 1 vote per unique IP address. *CALDARI not so MASTER RACE* Forum Warrior Level: 10
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11801	Posted - 2014.01.10 05:11:00 - [70] - Quote Severance Pay wrote: On the one hand, we the players are the only ones qualified to select someone to represent us. After all, those seeking representation should be able to select their representatives. We all want to pick the right people for the job and we all want to be responsible for it. This is a key turning point when we figure out how the masses will be represented for the duration of the DUST514's existence. On the other hand, we are not qualified to select the "right" representatives. Meaning, it has not been proven how many of us if any are capable of making an informed decision of who can properly represent people that cannot represent themselves. I can't make a list of qualifications a person must have, because I don't know them all. I know a few, and they are debatable. I don't want to vote in an asshat that may possibly steer DUST514 into the ocean, nor do I want to be responsible for it. My belief is that the current CPM0 should hold a constitutional convention, and write one. Its called a white paper and we're still shopping for signatures on it. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked

Slightly-Mental Planetary Research and Investments 40	Posted - 2014.01.10 05:55:00 - [71] - Quote Would CCP be listening to the player base feed back, that CPM1 puts on the table, more than they have CPM0 ? granted there is a hell of a lot of noise/trolls on the forums but, there are a lot of issue's that need to be addressed, that has been reported, yet go missed/forgotten or just plain ignored. At this moment in time, tbh my concern is more with CCP than the candidates. Are they going to listen more to the player base ? *inbetween the noise. Is CPM1 going to be used more proactive ? Is there going to be more feed back being passed to CPM1 to be released to the masses instead of having tighter gagging orders. If CCP treats CPM1, the same way as they did with CPM0 things will go bad to worse. ... instead of the candidates, I would like to hear CCP's, pre-election promises to the up and coming CPM1 and if any lessens have been learned.
IrishWebster Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 156	Posted - 2014.01.10 06:12:00 - [72] - Quote I'd fight tooth and nail to earn a spot on CPM 1, if it weren't for my upcoming deployment. I'd be gone for over eight months, during which time I wouldn't be able to play dust often, if at all. I'd be able to post on forums and chat with the Devs, but the limited internet where I'm going would make things very difficult for me to participate and serve the player base in the manner that which it deserves. Maybe next time, but so long as I'm allowed to vote, I'm voting. This game is important to me. It's the only one of its kind, and it's getting better patch by patch. Anyone too shortsighted and impatient to see this is free Togo back to Call of Duty. I love Dust, and I want to see it become as great as it is in my awesome geek dreams. Lol I salute you, CPM and CCP, and give you a full hearted 'RAH. =) Good luck to the runners, and good luck to the CPM and CCP while I'm away. Your friendly geek Marine, -Irish
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11809	Posted - 2014.01.10 06:15:00 - [73] - Quote I will say CPM 1 is going to be... a very interesting term, probably just as interesting, frustrating, difficult, and thankless for entirely different reasons. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
fawkuima juggalo Eternal Beings 834	Posted - 2014.01.10 06:21:00 - [74] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: just to clarify we have a very long list of people we would love to see run, though it seems hardly any of them have shown an interest so far. the CPM should release a suggested nominee list..... right? ---OFFICIAL LOGISTICS REGISTRY BOARD/ H.O.F.----
DeeJay One Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 187	Posted - 2014.01.10 08:02:00 - [75] - Quote Zekain K wrote: 1 vote per unique IP address. Good joke. There are people having multiple players in a single home sitting after NAT, some even may use the same console. Some providers also put their users under a single address and the list goes on and on...
Mithridates VI Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2643	Posted - 2014.01.10 08:09:00 - [76] - Quote DeeJay One wrote: Zekain K wrote: 1 vote per unique IP address. Good joke. There are people having multiple players in a single home sitting after NAT, some even may use the same console. Some providers also put their users under a single address and the list goes on and on... If it was IP based I would exploit that to vote in someone terrible, just to make a point. Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
DeeJay One Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 187	Posted - 2014.01.10 08:13:00 - [77] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its called a white paper and we're still shopping for signatures on it. For anyone who wants to know how such a whitepaper might look like the CSM one is available here http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/communityassets/pdf/csm/CSMSummary.pdf Of course I may be terribly wrong ;)
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 804	Posted - 2014.01.10 08:17:00 - [78] - Quote i'm guessing you have to be a minimum of 18+ to qualify right, or are there certain conditions to if you were for example... like 17 years old? but either way i wouldn't participate because i don't need cpm status or anything special to just have logical reasons and balances suggested to the forums/game like i'm doing now. even though I've been here since the beginning of open beta, it sucks that some of the more experienced players aren't running for cpm1, In Rust We Trust, true to the Republic, Kherokior warrior
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 566	Posted - 2014.01.10 08:19:00 - [79] - Quote Zekain K wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: @CCP Saberwing Have you figured out how to prevent using an army of alts to pad voting? EVE has it easy with using paying accounts. Definitely a concern for us and we're working on it with the CPM. :) it's simple. IP RESTRICTIONS. 1 vote per unique IP address. Most ISP's use NAT under IPv4 and due to the scarcity of IPv4 addresses so your public IP address is shared with many people, and due to DHCP this can also change depending on how often you connect (unless you're paying for a static IP address, which few people do). This would mean if multiple dust players share the same ISP, there's a potential for being blocked because your public IP address has already voted.
steadyhand amarr Bragian Order Amarr Empire 2126	Posted - 2014.01.10 08:24:00 - [80] - Quote Zekain K wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: @CCP Saberwing Have you figured out how to prevent using an army of alts to pad voting? EVE has it easy with using paying accounts. Definitely a concern for us and we're working on it with the CPM. :) it's simple. IP RESTRICTIONS. 1 vote per unique IP address. That is so easy to get round its not even funny wont work :-( "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers

TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2031	Posted - 2014.01.10 08:25:00 - [81] - Quote [ insert baseless assumptions and slander here ] I have bad feelings about the upcoming CPM but with the requirement that you have to be able to travel internationally i feel a bit better. We need experienced people who know what they are doing and are at the least knowledgeable about the intended way we are supposed to fit into eve, dust seems to be developing the other way round. It seems ccp is trying to fit eve in with dust, it just seems backwards at the mo. Inb4 biased trash. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 804	Posted - 2014.01.10 08:32:00 - [82] - Quote are you running for cpm techmechmeds? In Rust We Trust, true to the Republic, Kherokior warrior
Billi Gene 439	Posted - 2014.01.10 08:53:00 - [83] - Quote this is probably a good place to point out that running for CPM will not give you a platform to push thru changes to the game. certainly you could give suggestions, and your opinion (hopefully considered) will most certainly be sought. ... but if you get elected to the CPM and start trying to maneuver and scheme... you will soon find that CCP has already had experience with such behavior via the EvE CSM. so, leave any romantic notions of owning more than you allotted share of the game at the door, if you are running for CPM, do so because you have a clear idea of what will be involved..... Pedant, Ape, Troll. My Beard makes Alpha's sook :P
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2031	Posted - 2014.01.10 08:57:00 - [84] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: are you running for cpm techmechmeds? No, I'll list why in no particular order. I'm too much of a d!fk I'm not 'relevant' because I couldn't give two fks about being popular in dust My ideas for pc are too 'welcome new Eden htfu' for carebears Although my CEO is ex goon and we have spoken for hours about eve, iv never played it I have zero tolerance for soft cupcakes I prefer chicken over bacon ( nobody lifts on bacon, its salty puppy fat and its bad for you) I can't think of anything else at the mo, but I really do not have the patience to deal with the youngers and I commend the current CPM for it. I love dust and maybe one day I'll run, I do have good ideas for a lot of things and have played mmorpgs and fps since 1996 but again I simply do not have the patience to do it, sorry. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2031	Posted - 2014.01.10 09:03:00 - [85] - Quote Oh, and apparently I'm a total scrub because iv always fought with the underdog's. Swamp has 3 members from beta, the rest I trained myself and our CEO is ex goon. So yeah because iv chosen a very challenging route in dust I am a complete scrub. I need to talk sht, lick some anus, big up nade spammers and use the most op sht to 'git gud' apparently, if dusts logic was applied to the Olympics, the athletes who don't take steroids would be considered nubs guaranteed. Check my SIG for further dust logic. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 804	Posted - 2014.01.10 09:07:00 - [86] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: knight guard fury wrote: are you running for cpm techmechmeds? No, I'll list why in no particular order. I'm too much of a d!fk I'm not 'relevant' because I couldn't give two fks about being popular in dust My ideas for pc are too 'welcome new Eden htfu' for carebears Although my CEO is ex goon and we have spoken for hours about eve, iv never played it I have zero tolerance for soft cupcakes I prefer chicken over bacon ( nobody lifts on bacon, its salty puppy fat and its bad for you) I can't think of anything else at the mo, but I really do not have the patience to deal with the youngers and I commend the current CPM for it. I love dust and maybe one day I'll run, I do have good ideas for a lot of things and have played mmorpgs and fps since 1996 but again I simply do not have the patience to do it, sorry. well, just because your cpm deosnt mean your popular, i dont even know more than half the cpm although ive played eve i dont officially play it but it is very interesting and i like talking to other eve players my ideas for pc are quite interesting and cool but im keeping that to myself i have a high tolerance to everyone because of my happy, positive, optimistic mind that i have i dont hate on any one or try to troll anyone because im horrible at it unlike other people here i love dust as well, and i try to help ccp by trying to give them non-QQ threads and trying to provide decent feedback besides other people/younger people who don't like thinking logically about things, but at least like me and others i try. that is all. In Rust We Trust, true to the Republic, Kherokior warrior
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 805	Posted - 2014.01.10 09:09:00 - [87] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Oh, and apparently I'm a total scrub because iv always fought with the underdog's. Swamp has 3 members from beta, the rest I trained myself and our CEO is ex goon. So yeah because iv chosen a very challenging route in dust I am a complete scrub. I need to talk sht, lick some anus, big up nade spammers and use the most op sht to 'git gud' apparently, if dusts logic was applied to the Olympics, the athletes who don't take steroids would be considered nubs guaranteed. Check my SIG for further dust logic. im a beta vet as well, but im a jack of all trades so im experienced in all the ways of dust and its tactics/strategies so if someone complains about something, i would know about it In Rust We Trust, true to the Republic, Kherokior warrior
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 805	Posted - 2014.01.10 09:12:00 - [88] - Quote currently i made a thread in the feedback/suggestions forum about the bonuses and im trying to get the feedback of everyone to complete it to give ccp an idea on how they should change some of the suits In Rust We Trust, true to the Republic, Kherokior warrior
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2031	Posted - 2014.01.10 09:13:00 - [89] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: knight guard fury wrote: are you running for cpm techmechmeds? No, I'll list why in no particular order. I'm too much of a d!fk I'm not 'relevant' because I couldn't give two fks about being popular in dust My ideas for pc are too 'welcome new Eden htfu' for carebears Although my CEO is ex goon and we have spoken for hours about eve, iv never played it I have zero tolerance for soft cupcakes I prefer chicken over bacon ( nobody lifts on bacon, its salty puppy fat and its bad for you) I can't think of anything else at the mo, but I really do not have the patience to deal with the youngers and I commend the current CPM for it. I love dust and maybe one day I'll run, I do have good ideas for a lot of things and have played mmorpgs and fps since 1996 but again I simply do not have the patience to do it, sorry. well, just because your cpm deosnt mean your popular, i dont even know more than half the cpm although ive played eve i dont officially play it but it is very interesting and i like talking to other eve players my ideas for pc are quite interesting and cool but im keeping that to myself i have a high tolerance to everyone because of my happy, positive, optimistic mind that i have i dont hate on any one or try to troll anyone because im horrible at it unlike other people here i love dust as well, and i try to help ccp by trying to give them non-QQ threads and trying to provide decent feedback besides other people/younger people who don't like thinking logically about things, but at least like me and others i try. that is all. Fair play. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2031	Posted - 2014.01.10 09:14:00 - [90] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: currently i made a thread in the feedback/suggestions forum about the bonuses and im trying to get the feedback of everyone to complete it to give ccp an idea on how they should change some of the suits I'm going to check that now. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.

knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 806	Posted - 2014.01.10 09:19:00 - [91] - Quote link to my thread In Rust We Trust, true to the Republic, Kherokior warrior
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 806	Posted - 2014.01.10 09:27:00 - [92] - Quote i just find it interesting that im more mature and devoted to this game than most others and im only (and recently) 17, but ever since beta till now im pretty sure ive put over 2k and counting hours into this game In Rust We Trust, true to the Republic, Kherokior warrior
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 808	Posted - 2014.01.10 09:30:00 - [93] - Quote im also staying up all night just to have conversations with people on my school night (at least its friday though) In Rust We Trust, true to the Republic, Kherokior warrior
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 808	Posted - 2014.01.10 09:45:00 - [94] - Quote well im off for now, good night, see you later today 07 In Rust We Trust, true to the Republic, Kherokior warrior
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 473	Posted - 2014.01.10 09:50:00 - [95] - Quote Cat merc. You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2034	Posted - 2014.01.10 09:52:00 - [96] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Cat merc. No, his ideas are temperamental. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Robert JD Niewiadomski NULLIMPEX INC 732	Posted - 2014.01.10 10:54:00 - [97] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: @CCP Saberwing Have you figured out how to prevent using an army of alts to pad voting? EVE has it easy with using paying accounts. Definitely a concern for us and we're working on it with the CPM. :) I came up with 2.5 options: #1 put special AUR item "Vote Permit" on DUST market. Make it cost equivalent of PLEX in AUR. 1 PLEX is equal one month playtime in EVE. To cast a vote you have to have an active subscription anyway. So technically you have to buy a right to cast a vote. One "Vote Permit" per PSN Id. #2 make special event with reward in the form of "Vote Permit" designed so any person who want to claim it would physically be able to play only one character. One "Vote Permit" per PSN Id. #2.5 use unique ID of PS3 system (serial number?). Not the same as your PSN Id. If you can read it from DUST client and restrict 1 vote per PS3 Id. You could then automatically "gift" one "Vote Permit" to the first DUST account logged to particular PS3 system. Also you could set an age limit per character to prevent voting on fresh alts. After elections are over all unused "Vote Permits" disintegrate back to nanite pool Thoughts? F.E.A.R. stands for False Expectations Assumed Real
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 473	Posted - 2014.01.10 11:10:00 - [98] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Cat merc. No, his ideas are temperamental. Cat merc. You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
jenza aranda BetaMax. 2731	Posted - 2014.01.10 11:14:00 - [99] - Quote aurum and real money will never be a factor in voting. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2037	Posted - 2014.01.10 11:17:00 - [100] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: HYENAKILLER X wrote: Cat merc. No, his ideas are temperamental. Cat merc. Oh ok. Cat merc, your ideas are generally sht. Is that better? Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.

can't play dust Lazy Bunglers 24	Posted - 2014.01.10 11:19:00 - [101] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: aurum and real money will never be a factor in voting. But you have to spend real money to be able to vote for CSM in EVE Online. In the form of keeping your subscription active for election. And you CAN have multiple active accounts in EVE. Chribba owns 10 (or more?). So you can cast multiple votes via separate accounts if you don't mind spending money on it. Please explain...
Spartan MK420 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 60	Posted - 2014.01.10 11:22:00 - [102] - Quote vote for pedro
Robert JD Niewiadomski NULLIMPEX INC 732	Posted - 2014.01.10 11:26:00 - [103] - Quote can't play dust wrote: jenza aranda wrote: aurum and real money will never be a factor in voting. But you have to spend real money to be able to vote for CSM in EVE Online. In the form of keeping your subscription active for election. And you CAN have multiple active accounts in EVE. Chribba owns 10 (or more?). So you can cast multiple votes via separate accounts if you don't mind spending money on it. Please explain... Also you can do away with real money in EVE by extending your subscription with PLEX bought with ~600mil ISK from market. If you have. F.E.A.R. stands for False Expectations Assumed Real
jenza aranda BetaMax. 2731	Posted - 2014.01.10 11:28:00 - [104] - Quote can't play dust wrote: jenza aranda wrote: aurum and real money will never be a factor in voting. But you have to spend real money to be able to vote for CSM in EVE Online. In the form of keeping your subscription active for election. And you CAN have multiple active accounts in EVE. Chribba owns 10 (or more?). So you can cast multiple votes via separate accounts if you don't mind spending money on it. Please explain... At essence this is a free to play game, and there are plenty of very serious players out there who for one reason or another will not/can not pay for aurum. Cutting those people out is simply unfair. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
Robert JD Niewiadomski NULLIMPEX INC 732	Posted - 2014.01.10 11:32:00 - [105] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: can't play dust wrote: jenza aranda wrote: aurum and real money will never be a factor in voting. But you have to spend real money to be able to vote for CSM in EVE Online. In the form of keeping your subscription active for election. And you CAN have multiple active accounts in EVE. Chribba owns 10 (or more?). So you can cast multiple votes via separate accounts if you don't mind spending money on it. Please explain... At essence this is a free to play game, and there are plenty of very serious players out there who for one reason or another will not/can not pay for aurum. Cutting those people out is simply unfair. I proposed two other methods for claiming "Vote Permits" One was an Event rewarding one "Vote Permit" per PSN Id and the other was assigning one "Vote Permits" per PS3 box ID (if there is any way to read it from DUST client). No money/AUR necessary. Only your hard skills or PS3 ownership. Both AUR and no AUR methods could be used alternatively. Just like in EVE Online: voting via active subscription mantained with real money or with PLEX bought with ISK. Buying PLEX with ISK requires real time commitment to the game. So would require that special Event in DUST rewarding a "Vote Permit". Or you could choose the shortcut and buy it with AUR from DUST market. F.E.A.R. stands for False Expectations Assumed Real
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2037	Posted - 2014.01.10 11:50:00 - [106] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: knight guard fury wrote: are you running for cpm techmechmeds? No, I'll list why in no particular order. I'm too much of a d!fk I'm not 'relevant' because I couldn't give two fks about being popular in dust My ideas for pc are too 'welcome new Eden htfu' for carebears Although my CEO is ex goon and we have spoken for hours about eve, iv never played it I have zero tolerance for soft cupcakes I prefer chicken over bacon ( nobody lifts on bacon, its salty puppy fat and its bad for you) I can't think of anything else at the mo, but I really do not have the patience to deal with the youngers and I commend the current CPM for it. I love dust and maybe one day I'll run, I do have good ideas for a lot of things and have played mmorpgs and fps since 1996 but again I simply do not have the patience to do it, sorry. well, just because your cpm deosnt mean your popular, i dont even know more than half the cpm although ive played eve i dont officially play it but it is very interesting and i like talking to other eve players my ideas for pc are quite interesting and cool but im keeping that to myself i have a high tolerance to everyone because of my happy, positive, optimistic mind that i have i dont hate on any one or try to troll anyone because im horrible at it unlike other people here i love dust as well, and i try to help ccp by trying to give them non-QQ threads and trying to provide decent feedback besides other people/younger people who don't like thinking logically about things, but at least like me and others i try. that is all. I forgot to mention, you need to be transparent, keeping your ideas to yourself implies ulterior motives. I'd like to know what your plans for pc are, if you get this wrong then you have lost my vote. I'll give you a hint, about 80% of ideas make a bigger turd sandwich, albeit slightly more polished. I know you went offline so that's all I'll say. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 930	Posted - 2014.01.10 12:05:00 - [107] - Quote One could take a stab and saying that in order to be eligible to vote you will have to have participated in at least 100 matches, or have x amount of WP (not saying those specific numbers are right). But since it's free to play, I would see there being some kind of requirement more than just an account in order to vote. And tbh I am not sure I can fully take someone serious enough if they've only had one match in order to vote for a candidate that they think will improve their "game" seeing as I don't think anyone has very much knowledge about mechanics and such from one match. I'm positive it will require you (the account) to be X months old though. /c DUSTBoard - Mercenary sheets DUSTSearch - DUST Forum mirror

Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2547	Posted - 2014.01.10 12:17:00 - [108] - Quote can't play dust wrote: jenza aranda wrote: aurum and real money will never be a factor in voting. But you have to spend real money to be able to vote for CSM in EVE Online. In the form of keeping your subscription active for election. And you CAN have multiple active accounts in EVE. Chribba owns 10 (or more?). So you can cast multiple votes via separate accounts if you don't mind spending money on it. Please explain... Any voting system in place has to take into account the sweat equity that players put into the game no matter if they buy AUR or not. I can buy boatloads of AUR, but if I don't have someone on the other side of my gun to shoot it really won't matter. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2037	Posted - 2014.01.10 12:18:00 - [109] - Quote ChribbaX wrote: One could take a stab and saying that in order to be eligible to vote you will have to have participated in at least 100 matches, or have x amount of WP (not saying those specific numbers are right). But since it's free to play, I would see there being some kind of requirement more than just an account in order to vote. And tbh I am not sure I can fully take someone serious enough if they've only had one match in order to vote for a candidate that they think will improve their "game" seeing as I don't think anyone has very much knowledge about mechanics and such from one match. I'm positive it will require you (the account) to be X months old though. /c A 1000 matches isn't even scratching the surface for me let alone 100 matches, I want dust to succeed so its going to take a rare gem to get my vote and so far iv not seen anything truly worth voting for. The people I'd most likely vote for haven't even posted yet or may not even be running for CPM but are most likely thinking about it. Hopefully anyway. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Nyain San Renegade Alliance 763	Posted - 2014.01.10 12:50:00 - [110] - Quote Seeing as how garbage our current CPM is, I hold little hope for a halfway decent future CPM. Our CPM does things like supporting balance BEFORE content, which has already put dust into the garbage state its in & killed the playerbase, and still the CPM tells CCP to go for tiercide, which would kill the leftover veteran playerbase in a few weeks after implementation. Vets & new players only play to get their next proto item so they can be better and different, its why we grind week after week, and as vets who have invested hundreds or thousands of hours as well as real world money for our SP in this game, it is our right as well as our motivation to have superior gear, to get a leg up. Yet we have CPM that goes behind the communitys back and constantly advocates idiocy to CCP. Tiericide would kill the game almost overnight yet still the CPM tells CCP over & over to do it.Nova Knife has stated he thinks Nova Knives are OP for 1 hit killing people. IWS is...well he's IWS, garbage at the game and garbage ideas, especially tiercide, typically EVE jockey who doesn't understand FPS, and more importantly, dust. Kain Spero has a very good head around his shoulders, but is still not a skilled player, yet maintains his presence as the only CPM member not halfway ret@rded. Jenza is....jenza is not involved with the community or game enough. I can't even say my opinion about jenza because I hardly ever see jenza, which is a big problem in itself. And with people like Cat merc, who defended gallente logis, scrambler rifles as being fine, shield tanking as still better than armor tanking and being part of the "TANKS SHOULD SOLO WHOLE TEAMS DERP BUFF TANKS" brigade that brought us this fine specimen of 1.7(simply because he uses the gallente logi, ScRs & tanks), as well as JudgeRamadanthus who wish to nerf railguns, which are THE ONLY thing stopping tank514 from becoming absolute, simply because he flies ADS(also only threatened by railguns)..... I have no hope for future CPM. For the love of god get someone WITHOUT bias and who realises what DOESNT f*ck up the game and what is priority. That's "MR." Pothead to you.

jenza aranda BetaMax. 2733	Posted - 2014.01.10 12:52:00 - [111] - Quote proof and examples or GTFO and take your tin foil hat off. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2520	Posted - 2014.01.10 13:02:00 - [112] - Quote I think the character with the highest number of war points per account with some minimum baseline should be the criteria. eliminates alts on accounts passive SP accounts are eliminated requires a good deal of effort to farm votes 'service earns citizenship' new players can vote next time after they learn their way around DUST. // Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
Scout Registry 410	Posted - 2014.01.10 13:39:00 - [113] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: @CCP Saberwing Have you figured out how to prevent using an army of alts to pad voting? EVE has it easy with using paying accounts. Definitely a concern for us and we're working on it with the CPM. :) Minimum SP requirement? Voting Age laws/restrictions are not uncommon. Newbros may wear sadface, but only for one year.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 2523	Posted - 2014.01.10 13:56:00 - [114] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: @CCP Saberwing Have you figured out how to prevent using an army of alts to pad voting? EVE has it easy with using paying accounts. Definitely a concern for us and we're working on it with the CPM. :) Minimum SP requirement? Voting Age laws/restrictions are not uncommon. Newbros may wear sad face, but only for one year. SP is passive and can be farmed. WP is the only way to be sure that a merc has been used. // Venge Captain // Matari Logistics / Scout / Pilot // @ReesNoturana
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 118	Posted - 2014.01.10 14:13:00 - [115] - Quote Zekain K wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: @CCP Saberwing Have you figured out how to prevent using an army of alts to pad voting? EVE has it easy with using paying accounts. Definitely a concern for us and we're working on it with the CPM. :) it's simple. IP RESTRICTIONS. 1 vote per unique IP address. I have a nice block of IP addresses. Seriously though, I like Judge but I don't agree with most of his ideas. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1716	Posted - 2014.01.10 14:16:00 - [116] - Quote Would anyone vote for me?! Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
Daxxis KANNAH Distinct Covert Initiative 609	Posted - 2014.01.10 14:19:00 - [117] - Quote So will candidates (once that is finalized) have to put out any kind of manifesto or state past accomplishments / posts fighting for some specific cause(s) or its just a list and eligible people vote? I know about 2 people who are current CPM I would vote for. In your blind spot
Kigurosaka Laaksonen Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 93	Posted - 2014.01.10 14:28:00 - [118] - Quote I'm considering this. I'll compile some of my thoughts about the game and its future, my experience, and my qualifications. It seems like everything is pretty informal so far.
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templar One 1175	Posted - 2014.01.10 14:38:00 - [119] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: as well as Judge Ramadanthus who wish to nerf railguns, which are THE ONLY thing stopping tank514 from becoming absolute, simply because he flies ADS(also only threatened by railguns)..... You are misinformed on my viewpoint completely. In no way does your comment represent my position. I posted my actual view recently in another thread on that topic. Everything Dropship youtube channel my Community Spotlight
Tech De Ra Electronic Sports League 272	Posted - 2014.01.10 15:11:00 - [120] - Quote can't play dust wrote: jenza aranda wrote: aurum and real money will never be a factor in voting. But you have to spend real money to be able to vote for CSM in EVE Online. In the form of keeping your subscription active for election. And you CAN have multiple active accounts in EVE. Chribba owns 10 (or more?). So you can cast multiple votes via separate accounts if you don't mind spending money on it. Please explain... There as many people who play eve like myself that haven't paid for subscriptions for years thanks to the PLEX system, plus having to pay to vote for the CPM would amount to an angry playerbase due to a cash grab (which it will be seen as, because it pretty much is) Tech De Ra for CPM1

TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2044	Posted - 2014.01.10 17:48:00 - [121] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Seeing as how garbage our current CPM is, I hold little hope for a halfway decent future CPM. Our CPM does things like supporting balance BEFORE content, which has already put dust into the garbage state its in & killed the playerbase, and still the CPM tells CCP to go for tiercide, which would kill the leftover veteran playerbase in a few weeks after implementation. Vets & new players only play to get their next proto item so they can be better and different, its why we grind week after week, and as vets who have invested hundreds or thousands of hours as well as real world money for our SP in this game, it is our right as well as our motivation to have superior gear, to get a leg up. Yet we have CPM that goes behind the communitys back and constantly advocates idiocy to CCP. Tiericide would kill the game almost overnight yet still the CPM tells CCP over & over to do it.Nova Knife has stated he thinks Nova Knives are OP for 1 hit killing people. IWS is...well he's IWS, garbage at the game and garbage ideas, especially tiercide, typically EVE jockey who doesn't understand FPS, and more importantly, dust. Kain Spero has a very good head around his shoulders, but is still not a skilled player, yet maintains his presence as the only CPM member not halfway ret@rded. Jenza is....jenza is not involved with the community or game enough. I can't even say my opinion about jenza because I hardly ever see jenza, which is a big problem in itself. And with people like Cat merc, who defended gallente logis, scrambler rifles as being fine, shield tanking as still better than armor tanking and being part of the "TANKS SHOULD SOLO WHOLE TEAMS DERP BUFF TANKS" brigade that brought us this fine specimen of 1.7(simply because he uses the gallente logi, ScRs & tanks), as well as JudgeRamadanthus who wish to nerf railguns, which are THE ONLY thing stopping tank514 from becoming absolute, simply because he flies ADS(also only threatened by railguns)..... I have no hope for future CPM. For the love of god get someone WITHOUT bias and who realises what DOESNT f*ck up the game and what is priority. Priceless coming from a pro noob bashing corp pub star pos like yourself, post invalid, stfu. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2044	Posted - 2014.01.10 17:54:00 - [122] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: as well as Judge Ramadanthus who wish to nerf railguns, which are THE ONLY thing stopping tank514 from becoming absolute, simply because he flies ADS(also only threatened by railguns)..... You are misinformed on my viewpoint completely. In no way does your comment represent my position. I posted my actual view recently in another thread on that topic. I wouldn't even reply to that rubbish, half the people making those kind of ignorant stupid comments are probably just teenyboppers that are not worth the time. Just one look at that hardened ignorance and you know that you are talking to a brick wall mate. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2044	Posted - 2014.01.10 17:59:00 - [123] - Quote So far its clearly rhadamanthus or any of the current CPM for me. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2044	Posted - 2014.01.10 18:01:00 - [124] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: Seeing as how garbage our current CPM is, I hold little hope for a halfway decent future CPM. Our CPM does things like supporting balance BEFORE content, which has already put dust into the garbage state its in & killed the playerbase, and still the CPM tells CCP to go for tiercide, which would kill the leftover veteran playerbase in a few weeks after implementation. Vets & new players only play to get their next proto item so they can be better and different, its why we grind week after week, and as vets who have invested hundreds or thousands of hours as well as real world money for our SP in this game, it is our right as well as our motivation to have superior gear, to get a leg up. Yet we have CPM that goes behind the communitys back and constantly advocates idiocy to CCP. Tiericide would kill the game almost overnight yet still the CPM tells CCP over & over to do it.Nova Knife has stated he thinks Nova Knives are OP for 1 hit killing people. IWS is...well he's IWS, garbage at the game and garbage ideas, especially tiercide, typically EVE jockey who doesn't understand FPS, and more importantly, dust. Kain Spero has a very good head around his shoulders, but is still not a skilled player, yet maintains his presence as the only CPM member not halfway ret@rded. Jenza is....jenza is not involved with the community or game enough. I can't even say my opinion about jenza because I hardly ever see jenza, which is a big problem in itself. And with people like Cat merc, who defended gallente logis, scrambler rifles as being fine, shield tanking as still better than armor tanking and being part of the "TANKS SHOULD SOLO WHOLE TEAMS DERP BUFF TANKS" brigade that brought us this fine specimen of 1.7(simply because he uses the gallente logi, ScRs & tanks), as well as JudgeRamadanthus who wish to nerf railguns, which are THE ONLY thing stopping tank514 from becoming absolute, simply because he flies ADS(also only threatened by railguns)..... I have no hope for future CPM. For the love of god get someone WITHOUT bias and who realises what DOESNT f*ck up the game and what is priority. Its nice when people make ignorant generalisations isn't it? Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2044	Posted - 2014.01.10 18:35:00 - [125] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: i'm guessing you have to be a minimum of 18+ to qualify right, or are there certain conditions to if you were for example... like 17 years old? but either way i wouldn't participate because i don't need cpm status or anything special to just have logical reasons and balances suggested to the forums/game like i'm doing now. even though I've been here since the beginning of open beta, it sucks that some of the more experienced players aren't running for cpm1, I missed this. I got here day one of open beta, just because you missed closed beta doesn't matter. It was a different game back then with a few aspects that sound good but as much as I was gutted not to get in I can tell you it was clearly pure sht, loads of closed beta people have told me just how sht it was. No corps Dumbfire swarms No squads The announcer sounded like she was about to slit her wrists All the ars had scopes making for dull same old gameplay There wasnt even half of what we have now Skirmish 1.0 (was actually rubbish most of the time) Long waiting times At one point you had to pay to play At one point you could only play on the weekend The list goes on, we missed nothing special, skirmish 1.0 sounds like a broken version of titan mode in bf2142 but titan made was quality and that was about 13 years ago ish on pc lol. If we really missed anything as spectacular as half the deprived souls make out we did then why is the game so different? If it was they great ccp would have saved the data but guess what? They overwrite it lol. Talk of a REVAMPED skirmish 1.0 is apparently in the works, if its revamped then it should be good, I'm sure they learnt from that broken rubbish from before. We missed nothing special. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templar One 1182	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:16:00 - [126] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: So far its clearly rhadamanthus or any of the current CPM for me. That is a kind thing to say. thank you. I have not put my name into the ring officially but I am getting encouraging support from the average dust player. so I will wait to see if the process will create a representative group that the community respects. It the future CPM will be a mature and hard working group then that is something worth being part off. Everything Dropship youtube channel my Community Spotlight
Michael-J-Fox Richards Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 9	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:21:00 - [127] - Quote i'd vote for judge rhad for CPM, i dont know if that makes me some kind of goofball in some peoples eyes
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2044	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:38:00 - [128] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: So far its clearly rhadamanthus or any of the current CPM for me. That is a kind thing to say. thank you. I have not put my name into the ring officially but I am getting encouraging support from the average dust player. so I will wait to see if the process will create a representative group that the community respects. If the future CPM will be a mature and hard working group who want the best for CCP and the community then that is something worth being part off. Well, respect where respect is due mate and I can't fault anything you have said so far. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2183	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:45:00 - [129] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: as well as Judge Ramadanthus who wish to nerf railguns, which are THE ONLY thing stopping tank514 from becoming absolute, simply because he flies ADS(also only threatened by railguns)..... You are misinformed on my viewpoint completely. In no way does your comment represent my position. I posted my actual view recently in another thread on that topic. lolno You made a thread wanting railgun turrets removed so you can fly in safety lol Intelligence is OP
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2044	Posted - 2014.01.10 19:45:00 - [130] - Quote Michael-J-Fox Richards wrote: i'd vote for judge rhad for CPM, i dont know if that makes me some kind of goofball in some peoples eyes Exercise freedom of speech, words do not cause harm or loss to people and feelings are irrational. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.

TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 355	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:01:00 - [131] - Quote I have no contact with any of the regular posters I see here, In particular any of the guys commenting on CPM status.. I originally purchased the Mercenary Pack to gain access to Closed Beta, Due to the state of gameplay/loading times I didn't get into it much and further on my ps3 system crashed, and I was unable to keep up with the game for a while But basically I have been on Dust a long time and watched it grow into the game we play now, I co-founded my corp, and due to inactivity of others I have stepped up to run it Dead Man's Game is home to several mercenaries who, rose up through the brutal pub matches and constant proto spam, but we have came out stronger due to it I intend on increasing my involvement in Dust514 and I am considering being involved in the upcoming 'elections' that may take place..... Minmatar Demolitions Specialist Plasma Cannon Pro
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11851	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:04:00 - [132] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: I have no contact with any of the regular posters I see here, In particular any of the guys commenting on CPM status.. I originally purchased the Mercenary Pack to gain access to Closed Beta, Due to the state of gameplay/loading times I didn't get into it much and further on my ps3 system crashed, and I was unable to keep up with the game for a while But basically I have been on Dust a long time and watched it grow into the game we play now, I co-founded my corp, and due to inactivity of others I have stepped up to run it Dead Man's Game is home to several mercenaries who, rose up through the brutal pub matches and constant proto spam, but we have came out stronger due to it I intend on increasing my involvement in Dust514 and I am considering being involved in the upcoming 'elections' that may take place..... Sometimes it is best to wait, arm oneself and continue to grow base and run for an election further down the road. The best candidates for cpm 1 are the ones that have been trying to unseat the cpm 0 through positive efforts ever since they been seated. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 355	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:13:00 - [133] - Quote What have these efforts been..??? Where can I as a player look and see the difference that they have made..?? I may not have been involved in the CPM0 and I cant claim to be a Forum Warrior, But I am certainly dedicated to the game, and I have committed a lot of time to this game since the beginning ... should this not qualify me as much as these others?? So I look forward to you explaining what these positive efforts have included believe me, this oneself is armed Minmatar Demolitions Specialist Plasma Cannon Pro
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11855	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:16:00 - [134] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: What have these efforts been..??? Where can I as a player look and see the difference that they have made..?? I may not have been involved in the CPM0 and I cant claim to be a Forum Warrior, But I am certainly dedicated to the game, and I have committed a lot of time to this game since the beginning ... should this not qualify me as much as these others?? So I look forward to you explaining what these positive efforts have included believe me, this oneself is armed Judge Ram would be one such persons. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 355	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:18:00 - [135] - Quote I've seen his name mentioned but can you actually explain, what have they done??? what are the positive efforts being made??? Minmatar Demolitions Specialist Plasma Cannon Pro
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11856	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:22:00 - [136] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: I've seen his name mentioned but can you actually explain, what have they done??? what are the positive efforts being made??? Re; Edit from post. sorry about that. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 355	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:34:00 - [137] - Quote Well ideally, I would be making videos..... But I can't get everything I want, I still don't see why these thing should be a factor Why should I enter into a poularity contest just to contribute further to this game?? In my time on the forums, and in Dust it seems that there is inner group If that is how the game is going to progress, I can't see much hope for it I think it is in the best interest of the game, that candidates who are not actively part of this community still have a chance to get their say... How can we achieve balance in game if there isn't a balance in the peolple working at it?? thank you for your replies, and as I said before I am trying to learn more on the CPM role Minmatar Demolitions Specialist Plasma Cannon Pro
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templar One 1191	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:41:00 - [138] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: as well as Judge Ramadanthus who wish to nerf railguns, which are THE ONLY thing stopping tank514 from becoming absolute, simply because he flies ADS(also only threatened by railguns)..... You are misinformed on my viewpoint completely. In no way does your comment represent my position. I posted my actual view recently in another thread on that topic. lolno You made a thread wanting railgun turrets removed so you can fly in safety lol You sir are a dishonest person. I clearly lay out my views in that link and you just ignore it. If you wish to ignore a clear and concise layout of my views then I am at a dead end. I cannot in anyway reach you. Why will you not read what I wrote there? How can "lolno" be a reasoned response. If you wish to lie to yourself then that freedom is yours. do not try to lie to others about what my views are. Everything Dropship youtube channel my Community Spotlight
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2046	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:42:00 - [139] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Well ideally, I would be making videos..... But I can't get everything I want, I still don't see why these thing should be a factor Why should I enter into a poularity contest just to contribute further to this game?? In my time on the forums, and in Dust it seems that there is inner group If that is how the game is going to progress, I can't see much hope for it I think it is in the best interest of the game, that candidates who are not actively part of this community still have a chance to get their say... How can we achieve balance in game if there isn't a balance in the peolple working at it?? thank you for your replies, and as I said before I am trying to learn more on the CPM role Its not a popularity contest to put in considerable effort making videos to clearly demonstrate issues within dust. The only popularity contest in dust exists in the form of the circle jerkers touching each others a$$es so to speak and bragging about pc (which at the mo is the biggest broken pile iv ever experienced) but the apparent lag fix makes it worth a few higher level games if you could even call it that. And in fact people love that popularity rubbish within this game so much (pathetic) that they'd rather pc stays as it is and will adamantly try to build upon it. Or they really do not have any clue whatsoever. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 355	Posted - 2014.01.10 20:50:00 - [140] - Quote So anyone not involved making videos or gaining popularity on forums, probably won't be considered.... that doesn't seem biased at all I'm not trying to upset anyone here but we need some changes in what has been put forward to CCP and what is being pushed to be implemented.. Minmatar Demolitions Specialist Plasma Cannon Pro

jenza aranda BetaMax. 2752	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:03:00 - [141] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: So anyone not involved making videos or gaining popularity on forums, probably won't be considered.... that doesn't seem biased at all I'm not trying to upset anyone here but we need some changes in what has been put forward to CCP and what is being pushed to be implemented.. I dont see how its not fair considering these people are the ones activly helping the community for a long time now. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2046	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:08:00 - [142] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: So anyone not involved making videos or gaining popularity on forums, probably won't be considered.... that doesn't seem biased at all I'm not trying to upset anyone here but we need some changes in what has been put forward to CCP and what is being pushed to be implemented.. A quote to live by mate. 'Its not enough to want a cookie, you have to earn it' These people put in effort because they care. I'm a bit of a d!k on the forums granted but if theres something worth debating or something actually important then I will 'behave' myself and try to be constructive as hard as that it with my attitude. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11858	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:08:00 - [143] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: So anyone not involved making videos or gaining popularity on forums, probably won't be considered.... that doesn't seem biased at all I'm not trying to upset anyone here but we need some changes in what has been put forward to CCP and what is being pushed to be implemented.. Video making is not neseecary. Look at myself; I don't do pod casts, videos, run a dust 514 school, or a dust 514 news site or the largest corporation or alliance in the game. Yet despite this, I was a top community pick back then. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 355	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:09:00 - [144] - Quote Actively helping the community..... who watches their videos So realistically they aren't helping the majority of the playerbase.... Minmatar Demolitions Specialist Plasma Cannon Pro
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2046	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:11:00 - [145] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Actively helping the community..... who watches their videos So realistically they aren't helping the majority of the playerbase.... Is YouTube video that hard to find mate? I don't see anyone else really doing fk all except trying to de face peoples efforts.............. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2046	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:12:00 - [146] - Quote And they also post the videos on the forums in case you haven't noticed. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 355	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:18:00 - [147] - Quote In terms of gameplay I have helped numerous players understand the SP system, and the different roles in Dust514, along with their counters and I have consistently squaded with new players to give them support, at a major sacrifice to my own ISK and KDR but I have enjoyed doing so I wish I could make videos and it is something I will consider soonTM How many guys involved in the CPM can say they actively deployed in Caldari FW not for materialistic gain but simply because that section of the players needed support I want to be sure that whatever group is providing feedback to CCP is an unbiased team of players in different roles, combining their opinions Minmatar Demolitions Specialist Plasma Cannon Pro
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2047	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:20:00 - [148] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Actively helping the community..... who watches their videos So realistically they aren't helping the majority of the playerbase.... I do understand why you'd think that though. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 356	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:21:00 - [149] - Quote I'm fully aware youtube contains these videos... That has nothing to do with what I am saying, which is certainly not de facing other peoples efforts Minmatar Demolitions Specialist Plasma Cannon Pro
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11859	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:24:00 - [150] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: I'm fully aware youtube contains these videos... That has nothing to do with what I am saying, which is certainly not de facing other peoples efforts Cept that this is like the first day anyone's heard of you mostly. Get you name out. Raise your clout and solidify your foundations. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked

TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2047	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:27:00 - [151] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: In terms of gameplay I have helped numerous players understand the SP system, and the different roles in Dust514, along with their counters and I have consistently squaded with new players to give them support, at a major sacrifice to my own ISK and KDR but I have enjoyed doing so I wish I could make videos and it is something I will consider soonTM How many guys involved in the CPM can say they actively deployed in Caldari FW not for materialistic gain but simply because that section of the players needed support I want to be sure that whatever group is providing feedback to CCP is an unbiased team of players in different roles, combining their opinions Yeah that's fair play, theres no reason they'd be any more eligible than you but they've shown the effort they've put in. Iv trained literally hundreds of players from their day one but I can only say that, theres no proof iv done it and words are simply just not enough. Helping players is frustrating but because obviously you care about dust becoming the be all end all mmorpg/fps you do it, that doesn't actually help the fundamentals of the game itself. Iv smoked a joint so I'm feeling pretty vegetated right now, I'm hoping that makes sense lol. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines 2048	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:30:00 - [152] - Quote I'm now definitely incapable of trying to express myself lol, I'm just going to observe now. Level 2 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 357	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:34:00 - [153] - Quote I don't post very much on here, but I do keep an eye on the forums and some players know me for my contributions to Matari FW, and Caldari for the 1st 2 weeks of 1.7 What I am afraid of is that the CPM will become what I see on the forums, which is a group of players who gang up on decisions they don't like .... This game's playerbase is getting smaller and if decisions are ran by the 'community' then it will continue to dwindle until the only guys left are the ones who joined the gang I would like to see a player like myself who has had little connection to past events but a strong interest in the game, be considered for CPM surely this is better then having a pack make choices for all of the playerbase Minmatar Demolitions Specialist Plasma Cannon Pro
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 358	Posted - 2014.01.10 21:42:00 - [154] - Quote As I have said, I am only trying to learn more about the role.... Maybe given a chance I could prove more suitable for consideration, but for now I am here to learn The main thing I want is to be able to trust that these decisions are made wisely Minmatar Demolitions Specialist Plasma Cannon Pro
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11863	Posted - 2014.01.10 22:56:00 - [155] - Quote Go hang out in the cpm chambers then, check out some of the cpm replies there. Read previous CSM minutes they're a great resource. Talk with us in IRC, use the dev finder function and checkmark the cpm button. Though I am afraid I sorta made that feature useless :( CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1759	Posted - 2014.01.11 02:05:00 - [156] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: I don't post very much on here, but I do keep an eye on the forums and some players know me for my contributions to Matari FW, and Caldari for the 1st 2 weeks of 1.7 What I am afraid of is that the CPM will become what I see on the forums, which is a group of players who gang up on decisions they don't like .... This game's playerbase is getting smaller and if decisions are ran by the 'community' then it will continue to dwindle until the only guys left are the ones who joined the gang I would like to see a player like myself who has had little connection to past events but a strong interest in the game, be considered for CPM surely this is better then having a pack make choices for all of the playerbase join irc and have a chat with me. If you can survive me then you an do well on cpm [CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm [CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit [CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4417	Posted - 2014.01.11 02:20:00 - [157] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: jenza aranda wrote: there is only perhaps one person so far that we, or at least I would endorse. And what if I don't endorse you? Why does your endorsement mean so much? And why are you acting like you are completely safe and will be a shoe-in for CPM1? So you obviously missed where she said she isn't even sure she wants to do it again. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Mithridates VI Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2689	Posted - 2014.01.11 02:52:00 - [158] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: As I have said, I am only trying to learn more about the role.... Maybe given a chance I could prove more suitable for consideration, but for now I am here to learn The main thing I want is to be able to trust that these decisions are made wisely I definitely think we need the CPM election to take into consideration that the forums are a specific subcommunity and not the be all and end all of DUST, however it's difficult to find methods of engaging en masse with the players who aren't on the forum. It's something more thought needs to be put into. Honestly, I think we need social spaces that our mercs can interact with one another in, in game, but that's a dream for a much later date. Keep providing input into the process, though. You're not alone in being concerned that the CPM will become a reflection of an echo-chamber which isn't in the game's best interests. Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 360	Posted - 2014.01.11 02:53:00 - [159] - Quote CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: ToooooGa.....TooooooooGa... o I mean.. SooooooTa.....SooooooTa don't forget what wins any election... money and p0rn So Mr Candidate ... did you or did you not inhale when you were in clone academy?
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11887	Posted - 2014.01.11 03:42:00 - [160] - Quote Free Beers wrote: TheD1CK wrote: I don't post very much on here, but I do keep an eye on the forums and some players know me for my contributions to Matari FW, and Caldari for the 1st 2 weeks of 1.7 What I am afraid of is that the CPM will become what I see on the forums, which is a group of players who gang up on decisions they don't like .... This game's playerbase is getting smaller and if decisions are ran by the 'community' then it will continue to dwindle until the only guys left are the ones who joined the gang I would like to see a player like myself who has had little connection to past events but a strong interest in the game, be considered for CPM surely this is better then having a pack make choices for all of the playerbase join irc and have a chat with me. If you can survive me then you an do well on cpm Lot of truth here, Beers can break quite a few folks and he alone is considerably 'lite' in comparison to the amount of hate, loathe, and frustration the community will throw your way once you're a CPM. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11909	Posted - 2014.01.11 03:43:00 - [161] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: TheD1CK wrote: As I have said, I am only trying to learn more about the role.... Maybe given a chance I could prove more suitable for consideration, but for now I am here to learn The main thing I want is to be able to trust that these decisions are made wisely I definitely think we need the CPM election to take into consideration that the forums are a specific subcommunity and not the be all and end all of DUST, however it's difficult to find methods of engaging en masse with the players who aren't on the forum. It's something more thought needs to be put into. Honestly, I think we need social spaces that our mercs can interact with one another in, in game, but that's a dream for a much later date. Keep providing input into the process, though. You're not alone in being concerned that the CPM will become a reflection of an echo-chamber which isn't in the game's best interests. appox 10%-20% but a good forum warrior can garner far more support than that because important people of corporations and voting blocks read the forums too. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2186	Posted - 2014.01.11 12:38:00 - [162] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: as well as Judge Ramadanthus who wish to nerf railguns, which are THE ONLY thing stopping tank514 from becoming absolute, simply because he flies ADS(also only threatened by railguns)..... You are misinformed on my viewpoint completely. In no way does your comment represent my position. I posted my actual view recently in another thread on that topic. lolno You made a thread wanting railgun turrets removed so you can fly in safety lol You sir are a dishonest person. I clearly lay out my views in that link and you just ignore it. If you wish to ignore a clear and concise layout of my views then I am at a dead end. I cannot in anyway reach you. Why will you not read what I wrote there? How can "lolno" be a reasoned response. If you wish to lie to yourself then that freedom is yours. do not try to lie to others about what my views are. Judge Rhadamanthus i find you guilty https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1638265#post1638265 The above link proves you want railguns to be removed from the game and you repeated this 4 times in your opening post Case closed Intelligence is OP
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 358	Posted - 2014.01.11 13:01:00 - [163] - Quote Free Beers...... I've never refused a Free beer before so I won't start now Thanks for the offer... I will join once active again in a few days Mithridates VI gets what I am trying to say ..... How can we trust the CPM is doing any good for the players if the players can't be picked for CPM All I have seen is how either CPM's would like to re-run... which i agree one of you should but every election there needs to be a better filtering process, where new candidates have a chance the titles of Forum Warrior or Youtoober shouldn't effect the CPM decision Or CPM's endorsing some new runners shouldnt be allowed ... 'Hey, pick this guy! he shares all my opinions' .... I think any vote is going to be a tough call as there is big corps plus alt clones and then the Forum prom queens who will all add their opinion and their buddies will listen Personally I think CCP needs to get involved and be seen to pick out players from the playerbase They can look at stats and activity times and maybe get an idea if players meet what they are looking for, maybe CCP could conduct interviews of the potential candidates.... Voting by the players is going to be pointless as this community isn't exactly huge, and too many of the community's opinions will reflect each other Minmatar Demolitions Specialist Plasma Cannon Pro
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templar One 1196	Posted - 2014.01.11 13:15:00 - [164] - Quote I very clearly laid out my position in the link I sent you to. This is my current position based on discussion in many threads. It is a later post than any other I made on the topic. It represents a clear view how I stand on that issue. Do you understand this? Please stop misrepresenting my. It is dishonest. It is quite clear I am talking about the redline in that old thread and the fact that they do not work fairly with the maps that we have. Which I clarify several times in posts within that thread. I say "redline" twice in the first paragraph alone. I made one request for their removal in the OP which I meant as a reference to taking them out of the redline not the game. I worded it a little badly so clarified later in the thread as some people were confused. Also you need to listen to what I say. You keep just getting it set in your mind and no matter how I try to clarify my position you dodge it and try to find some way to make me say what you want to make me say. Stop it. It is not constructive. I repeat myself here for you again. This is the post I linked you to. This is my opinion on this. Quote: I absolutely want rail tanks to be a serious threat to dropships. To be a threat they need to hit hard as the window to hit us is small and they need range to keep us at bay. But doing that from the complete safety of the redline is not fair. I would at this point make one single change to rail tanks. That they cannot engage the operational area of the map from the redline or close proximity to it. This means the objectives and their zones. let them hit the area near their redline to help a team push out if pushed back, but stop them killing people out in the burn zone trying to have a fair and fun fight by using the redline to run unrealistic builds and hide from retaliation. Are you clear on my position? Do you need me to explain further? Lets not disrail this thread. Everything Dropship youtube channel my Community Spotlight
Heinrich Jagerblitzen D3LTA FORC3 1380	Posted - 2014.01.12 10:18:00 - [165] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: How do you conduct a proper election with the ruling party still in a position to influence decision?! Don't call it an election then LOL @ "Ruling party" The idea that we have some "power" to "rule" or "govern" is so ridiculous there's not even any point in addressing it again, too many in this thread and elsewhere have already pointed out that we're an advisory/advocacy group and nothing more. Also, we will absolutely be trying to influence the outcome of the election - but we'll be doing it through all the same means that every other player here has a right to wield. That is, endorsements of qualified candidates and open criticism against candidates that we don't believe are fit to serve. We've all worked waaaaaaaaayyyy too hard to get this far only to have a weak council replace us and not be able to pick up where we left off. If we do our jobs right during the upcoming campaign season, we'll not only be replaced by individuals capable of continuing our work, we'll be replaced by individuals that will do an even better job at this than we have ourselves. I'll be the first to admit that we're not perfect and that there's many talented individuals throughout the community that deserve a chance to outshine our performance. They'll need to be equally fearless, prepared to work like dogs, and prepared for disappointment from CCP that will come in every flavor imaginable. Even during the best of times working with CCP can be stressful and none of us want anyone on the council that isn't capable of sticking out a term to the very end and handing it off to the next group that will do an even better job than CPM1. The CSM has a long tradition of subsequent councils outshining those that come before them, building upon and iterating on the previous year's work and finding ways to improve communications with the community and to deepen their influence on CCP. I certainly hope that this tradition starts this spring with the CPM as well. I won't be running myself, but I'll be around as a resource to those that take our place, and make sure they have what they need to do a killer job. All that to say, don't kid yourself, the CPM is not going to sit on the sideline with tape on our mouths and let a bunch of fools get elected and ruin what we've worked to build. In fact, there's many that have rightfully argued that the CPM-CCP relationship is still in its infancy, which makes electing a strong CPM1 all the more critical. It's not going to take any backroom handshakes or messing with electoral systems to do it though, the election will be more than fair. We simply have an obligation to speak our minds about who is and isn't fit to serve by the very fact that we take the future success of this institution seriously.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5491	Posted - 2014.01.12 10:27:00 - [166] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: NAV HIV wrote: How do you conduct a proper election with the ruling party still in a position to influence decision?! Don't call it an election then LOL @ "Ruling party" The idea that we have some "power" to "rule" or "govern" is so ridiculous there's not even any point in addressing it again, too many in this thread and elsewhere have already pointed out that we're an advisory/advocacy group and nothing more. Also, we will absolutely be trying to influence the outcome of the election - but we'll be doing it through all the same means that every other player here has a right to wield. That is, endorsements of qualified candidates and open criticism against candidates that we don't believe are fit to serve. We've all worked waaaaaaaaayyyy too hard to get this far only to have a weak council replace us and not be able to pick up where we left off. If we do our jobs right during the upcoming campaign season, we'll not only be replaced by individuals capable of continuing our work, we'll be replaced by individuals that will do an even better job at this than we have ourselves. I'll be the first to admit that we're not perfect and that there's many talented individuals throughout the community that deserve a chance to outshine our performance. They'll need to be equally fearless, prepared to work like dogs, and prepared for disappointment from CCP that will come in every flavor imaginable. Even during the best of times working with CCP can be stressful and none of us want anyone on the council that isn't capable of sticking out a term to the very end and handing it off to the next group that will do an even better job than CPM1. The CSM has a long tradition of subsequent councils outshining those that come before them, building upon and iterating on the previous year's work and finding ways to improve communications with the community and to deepen their influence on CCP. I certainly hope that this tradition starts this spring with the CPM as well. I won't be running myself, but I'll be around as a resource to those that take our place, and make sure they have what they need to do a killer job. All that to say, don't kid yourself, the CPM is not going to sit on the sideline with tape on our mouths and let a bunch of fools get elected and ruin what we've worked to build. In fact, there's many that have rightfully argued that the CPM-CCP relationship is still in its infancy, which makes electing a strong CPM1 all the more critical. It's not going to take any backroom handshakes or messing with electoral systems to do it though, the election will be more than fair. We simply have an obligation to speak our minds about who is and isn't fit to serve by the very fact that we take the future success of this institution seriously. Oh god another postnaught. Can't you make a post shorter than 10 lines? Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11977	Posted - 2014.01.12 10:30:00 - [167] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: NAV HIV wrote: How do you conduct a proper election with the ruling party still in a position to influence decision?! Don't call it an election then LOL @ "Ruling party" The idea that we have some "power" to "rule" or "govern" is so ridiculous there's not even any point in addressing it again, too many in this thread and elsewhere have already pointed out that we're an advisory/advocacy group and nothing more. Also, we will absolutely be trying to influence the outcome of the election - but we'll be doing it through all the same means that every other player here has a right to wield. That is, endorsements of qualified candidates and open criticism against candidates that we don't believe are fit to serve. We've all worked waaaaaaaaayyyy too hard to get this far only to have a weak council replace us and not be able to pick up where we left off. If we do our jobs right during the upcoming campaign season, we'll not only be replaced by individuals capable of continuing our work, we'll be replaced by individuals that will do an even better job at this than we have ourselves. I'll be the first to admit that we're not perfect and that there's many talented individuals throughout the community that deserve a chance to outshine our performance. They'll need to be equally fearless, prepared to work like dogs, and prepared for disappointment from CCP that will come in every flavor imaginable. Even during the best of times working with CCP can be stressful and none of us want anyone on the council that isn't capable of sticking out a term to the very end and handing it off to the next group that will do an even better job than CPM1. The CSM has a long tradition of subsequent councils outshining those that come before them, building upon and iterating on the previous year's work and finding ways to improve communications with the community and to deepen their influence on CCP. I certainly hope that this tradition starts this spring with the CPM as well. I won't be running myself, but I'll be around as a resource to those that take our place, and make sure they have what they need to do a killer job. All that to say, don't kid yourself, the CPM is not going to sit on the sideline with tape on our mouths and let a bunch of fools get elected and ruin what we've worked to build. In fact, there's many that have rightfully argued that the CPM-CCP relationship is still in its infancy, which makes electing a strong CPM1 all the more critical. It's not going to take any backroom handshakes or messing with electoral systems to do it though, the election will be more than fair. We simply have an obligation to speak our minds about who is and isn't fit to serve by the very fact that we take the future success of this institution seriously. Oh god another postnaught. Can't you make a post shorter than 10 lines? If Forum Warrioring was an FFXI RPG, Hans is a Dark Knight, swings a 2hd sword like nobody's business. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Lorhak Gannarsein 1180	Posted - 2014.01.12 10:56:00 - [168] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Also, we will absolutely be trying to influence the outcome of the election - but we'll be doing it through all the same means that every other player here has a right to wield. That little white tag does give you some more credibility than the rest of us have :P PRO tanker and proud. Number of PRO-turret HAVs killed w/ my permahardened MLT Blaster Gunny - 2 (so far xD)


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