There is some truth to this all, though. If CCP is going to champion this as an election, then it doesn't make much sense that they would be pushing certain people for the spots. Not saying there is anything wrong with that, in fact it really makes more sense (to avoid popularity contests), but if that is the case then you can't really call this an election.

Who's "WE" ?! If it is an election, then the party interested should run for the position. There are a few players i'd like to nominate, but it should up to the player if they wanna run for it. Not decided or pushed by Current CPM or CCP. Wont be much of an election then... More of a puppet and puppet master thing

But How do you conduct a proper election with the ruling party still in a position to influence decision?! Don't call it an election then

Only Kain and Wolf has been seen trying to fix more things. Not saying much against the rest. But How do you conduct a proper election with the ruling party still in a position to influence decision?! Don't call it an election then

"Election" implies an informed voter base

I prefer "popularity contest"

It's a very simple equation wherein anyone who wants to run and is eligible can run but the CPM remain free to comment, with their being the experts in the capabilities required, on who they believe to be a good fit for the role.

What part of that is difficult? They're not proposing that they strictly choose their successors.

"Election" implies an informed voter base

I prefer "popularity contest"

What's the plan to stop people from just voting with all their alts? Will there be some kind of timer on accounts that tracks if we've been active all month or something? Some people have 10's if not 100's of alts.

Lol, the ruling party.

Yeah, the CPM are kings. Gods among men, during their term. Definitely that and not the underappreciated (by playerbase and CCP), underutilised resource given a thankless job to do and then scorned at every possible opportunity when they try to do it, yet still expected to continue to work at it until their hope dies completely.

More likely that they're the most powerful players in the game.

Then the goal of any interested party, whether a candidate or not, should be to get as much information about candidates as possible. Surveys and comparisons and such. (I know I've voted for CSM more than once based on the results of such a site.) As well as encouraging as many as possible to vote. Non-forum players probably have not even heard of most of the "celebrity players" and vote based on the facts, so the goal should be to reach as many of those players as possible, and convince them that their votes count.

Incase you missed this part:

"Just a heads up that we had a meeting this morning with CCP peeps and among other things we spoke about both CPM candidate eligibility and voter eligibility."

Incase you missed this part:

"Just a heads up that we had a meeting this morning with CCP peeps and among other things we spoke about both CPM candidate eligibility and voter eligibility."

Incase you missed this part:

"Just a heads up that we had a meeting this morning with CCP peeps and among other things we spoke about both CPM candidate eligibility and voter eligibility."

Sounds great. In-game update section ?! Market place ?!

CPM had a discussion about an important topic with CCP....

Your point?

Am i the only one who actually read it properly ?!

Followed by:

"The main thing I wanted to talk about here was the current pool of early peeps who have announced that they are running. Now obviously a lot can change between between now and when the ballots are ready to be counted but its more or less the overall consensus of the CPM that there is only perhaps one person so far that we, or at least I would endorse. I myself am not ready to say who they are but I have messaged them privately. "

Am i the only one who actually read it properly ?!

There is some truth to this all, though. If CCP is going to champion this as an election, then it doesn't make much sense that they would be pushing certain people for the spots. Not saying there is anything wrong with that, in fact it really makes more sense (to avoid popularity contests), but if that is the case then you can't really call this an election.

CPM0 is not CCP.

CPM0 is hoping that the people elected to replace them are competent to do the job.

CPM0 is likely getting very nervous about the pool of clowns who have announced their candidacy so far. Only one or two serious candidates as far as I can see.

CPM0 read the forums, so they obviously would have an idea of who the people are who are intelligent, balanced, and committed enough to do a good job. Of course they are hoping that some of those people will run.

Jenza said she contacted one promising candidate privately AFTER they announced they were running. Jenza did not even say who that person was, or who the other people CPM0 might support are. I donGÇÖt see any evidence that they are pushing certain people for the spots.

I don't want to vote in an asshat that may possibly steer DUST514 into the ocean, nor do I want to be responsible for it.

My belief is that the current CPM0 should hold a constitutional convention, and write one.

On the one hand, we the players are the only ones qualified to select someone to represent us. After all, those seeking representation should be able to select their representatives. We all want to pick the right people for the job and we all want to be responsible for it. This is a key turning point when we figure out how the masses will be represented for the duration of the DUST514's existence.

On the other hand, we are not qualified to select the "right" representatives. Meaning, it has not been proven how many of us if any are capable of making an informed decision of who can properly represent people that cannot represent themselves. I can't make a list of qualifications a person must have, because I don't know them all. I know a few, and they are debatable. I don't want to vote in an asshat that may possibly steer DUST514 into the ocean, nor do I want to be responsible for it.

My belief is that the current CPM0 should hold a constitutional convention, and write one.

Hey all,

Just a heads up that we had a meeting this morning with CCP peeps and among other things we spoke about both CPM candidate eligibility and voter eligibility. No solid info just yet but things are taking shape.

The main thing I wanted to talk about here was the current pool of early peeps who have announced that they are running. Now obviously a lot can change between between now and when the ballots are ready to be counted but its more or less the overall consensus of the CPM that there is only perhaps one person so far that we, or at least I would endorse. I myself am not ready to say who they are but I have messaged them privately.

The thing is, I think a lot of the vets already know who the best people are for the job, and thats the people who have been activly helping the community in their own way for a while now. I hope more of these people will step forward.

I also want to make it quite clear that not being in the CPM does not mean you can't help the community and the game in various ways! A short post on the forums will do very little to encourage the older players that you are an asset but actions will. There is still PLENTY of time before voting, so all you aspiring CPMers get out there and show what you can do without CCP's help, then let us imagine what you can do with a little boost (if you have the time between the meetings )


Best of luck,

Jenza Aranda // Jennifer Murray

CPM0

EDIT: P.S. feel free to contact me in IRC or skype (jenza514)

Vote Tebu Gan, he won't be a **** like most of the current CPMs, and FREE BEER for everyone when I get elected.

Ok jokes aside, ****. Nevermind, I just spilled ketchup on my keyboard. Now I'm pisssssed.

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Now I remember, does CCP pay you or is that a volunteer position. Would have to be some dedicated fellas to volunteer!

If anything I think what jenza is trying to get at is that people should be less focused on how visible candidates are, and more on what they do and what they are capable of doing if given such a position. More often than not, the quiet one in the room is often the one thinking about what they're going to say, rather than just saying whatever comes to mind.

CPM0 is not CCP.

CPM0 is hoping that the people elected to replace them are competent to do the job.

CPM0 is likely getting very nervous about the pool of clowns who have announced their candidacy so far. Only one or two serious candidates as far as I can see.

CPM0 read the forums, so they obviously would have an idea of who the people are who are intelligent, balanced, and committed enough to do a good job. Of course they are hoping that some of those people will run.

Jenza said she contacted one promising candidate privately AFTER they announced they were running. Jenza did not even say who that person was, or who the other people CPM0 might support are. I donGÇÖt see any evidence that they are pushing certain people for the spots.

I think the fear is a valid one, that often the most unqualified and uniformed have the loudest voice, and thus draw the most attention. It is a problem we see in modern politics, and it is not necessarily a failure of the voter base, but rather a failure of the social dynamic.

If anything I think what jenza is trying to get at is that people should be less focused on how visible candidates are, and more on what they do and what they are capable of doing if given such a position. More often than not, the quiet one in the room is often the one thinking about what they're going to say, rather than just saying whatever comes to mind.

It is difficult to do, but I think their intent is to encourage the voter base to look more at the people who are not jumping around with their hand in the air yelling "PICK ME PICK ME!"