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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
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Posted - 2014.01.10 21:27:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:In terms of gameplay I have helped numerous players understand the SP system, and the different roles in Dust514, along with their counters and I have consistently squaded with new players to give them support, at a major sacrifice to my own ISK and KDR but I have enjoyed doing so
I wish I could make videos and it is something I will consider soonTM
How many guys involved in the CPM can say they actively deployed in Caldari FW not for materialistic gain but simply because that section of the players needed support
I want to be sure that whatever group is providing feedback to CCP is an unbiased team of players in different roles, combining their opinions
Yeah that's fair play, theres no reason they'd be any more eligible than you but they've shown the effort they've put in.
Iv trained literally hundreds of players from their day one but I can only say that, theres no proof iv done it and words are simply just not enough. Helping players is frustrating but because obviously you care about dust becoming the be all end all mmorpg/fps you do it, that doesn't actually help the fundamentals of the game itself.
Iv smoked a joint so I'm feeling pretty vegetated right now, I'm hoping that makes sense lol.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
2048
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Posted - 2014.01.10 21:30:00 -
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I'm now definitely incapable of trying to express myself lol, I'm just going to observe now.
Level 2 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
357
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Posted - 2014.01.10 21:34:00 -
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I don't post very much on here, but I do keep an eye on the forums and some players know me for my contributions to Matari FW, and Caldari for the 1st 2 weeks of 1.7
What I am afraid of is that the CPM will become what I see on the forums, which is a group of players who gang up on decisions they don't like .... This game's playerbase is getting smaller and if decisions are ran by the 'community' then it will continue to dwindle until the only guys left are the ones who joined the gang
I would like to see a player like myself who has had little connection to past events but a strong interest in the game, be considered for CPM surely this is better then having a pack make choices for all of the playerbase
Minmatar Demolitions Specialist
Plasma Cannon Pro
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
358
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Posted - 2014.01.10 21:42:00 -
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As I have said, I am only trying to learn more about the role.... Maybe given a chance I could prove more suitable for consideration, but for now I am here to learn
The main thing I want is to be able to trust that these decisions are made wisely
Minmatar Demolitions Specialist
Plasma Cannon Pro
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
11863
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Posted - 2014.01.10 22:56:00 -
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Go hang out in the cpm chambers then, check out some of the cpm replies there. Read previous CSM minutes they're a great resource. Talk with us in IRC, use the dev finder function and checkmark the cpm button. Though I am afraid I sorta made that feature useless :(
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1759
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Posted - 2014.01.11 02:05:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:I don't post very much on here, but I do keep an eye on the forums and some players know me for my contributions to Matari FW, and Caldari for the 1st 2 weeks of 1.7
What I am afraid of is that the CPM will become what I see on the forums, which is a group of players who gang up on decisions they don't like .... This game's playerbase is getting smaller and if decisions are ran by the 'community' then it will continue to dwindle until the only guys left are the ones who joined the gang
I would like to see a player like myself who has had little connection to past events but a strong interest in the game, be considered for CPM surely this is better then having a pack make choices for all of the playerbase
join irc and have a chat with me. If you can survive me then you an do well on cpm
[CCP]FoxFour> STFU beers[CCP]FoxFour> Erm
[CCP]FoxFour> I mean[CCP]FoxFour> shit
[CCP]FoxFour> you were defending me
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
4417
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Posted - 2014.01.11 02:20:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:jenza aranda wrote:there is only perhaps one person so far that we, or at least I would endorse. And what if I don't endorse you? Why does your endorsement mean so much? And why are you acting like you are completely safe and will be a shoe-in for CPM1? So you obviously missed where she said she isn't even sure she wants to do it again.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Mithridates VI
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2689
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Posted - 2014.01.11 02:52:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:As I have said, I am only trying to learn more about the role.... Maybe given a chance I could prove more suitable for consideration, but for now I am here to learn
The main thing I want is to be able to trust that these decisions are made wisely
I definitely think we need the CPM election to take into consideration that the forums are a specific subcommunity and not the be all and end all of DUST, however it's difficult to find methods of engaging en masse with the players who aren't on the forum. It's something more thought needs to be put into.
Honestly, I think we need social spaces that our mercs can interact with one another in, in game, but that's a dream for a much later date.
Keep providing input into the process, though. You're not alone in being concerned that the CPM will become a reflection of an echo-chamber which isn't in the game's best interests.
Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
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Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
360
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Posted - 2014.01.11 02:53:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:ToooooGa.....TooooooooGa... o I mean.. SooooooTa.....SooooooTa
don't forget what wins any election...
money
and p0rn
So Mr Candidate ... did you or did you not inhale when you were in clone academy? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
11887
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Posted - 2014.01.11 03:42:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:TheD1CK wrote:I don't post very much on here, but I do keep an eye on the forums and some players know me for my contributions to Matari FW, and Caldari for the 1st 2 weeks of 1.7
What I am afraid of is that the CPM will become what I see on the forums, which is a group of players who gang up on decisions they don't like .... This game's playerbase is getting smaller and if decisions are ran by the 'community' then it will continue to dwindle until the only guys left are the ones who joined the gang
I would like to see a player like myself who has had little connection to past events but a strong interest in the game, be considered for CPM surely this is better then having a pack make choices for all of the playerbase
join irc and have a chat with me. If you can survive me then you an do well on cpm
Lot of truth here, Beers can break quite a few folks and he alone is considerably 'lite' in comparison to the amount of hate, loathe, and frustration the community will throw your way once you're a CPM.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
11909
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Posted - 2014.01.11 03:43:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:TheD1CK wrote:As I have said, I am only trying to learn more about the role.... Maybe given a chance I could prove more suitable for consideration, but for now I am here to learn
The main thing I want is to be able to trust that these decisions are made wisely
I definitely think we need the CPM election to take into consideration that the forums are a specific subcommunity and not the be all and end all of DUST, however it's difficult to find methods of engaging en masse with the players who aren't on the forum. It's something more thought needs to be put into. Honestly, I think we need social spaces that our mercs can interact with one another in, in game, but that's a dream for a much later date. Keep providing input into the process, though. You're not alone in being concerned that the CPM will become a reflection of an echo-chamber which isn't in the game's best interests.
appox 10%-20% but a good forum warrior can garner far more support than that because important people of corporations and voting blocks read the forums too.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
2186
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Posted - 2014.01.11 12:38:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:as well as Judge Ramadanthus who wish to nerf railguns, which are THE ONLY thing stopping tank514 from becoming absolute, simply because he flies ADS(also only threatened by railguns)..... You are misinformed on my viewpoint completely. In no way does your comment represent my position. I posted my actual view recently in another thread on that topic. lolno You made a thread wanting railgun turrets removed so you can fly in safety lol You sir are a dishonest person. I clearly lay out my views in that link and you just ignore it. If you wish to ignore a clear and concise layout of my views then I am at a dead end. I cannot in anyway reach you. Why will you not read what I wrote there? How can "lolno" be a reasoned response. If you wish to lie to yourself then that freedom is yours. do not try to lie to others about what my views are.
Judge Rhadamanthus i find you guilty
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1638265#post1638265
The above link proves you want railguns to be removed from the game and you repeated this 4 times in your opening post
Case closed
Intelligence is OP
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
358
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Posted - 2014.01.11 13:01:00 -
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Free Beers...... I've never refused a Free beer before so I won't start now Thanks for the offer... I will join once active again in a few days
Mithridates VI gets what I am trying to say ..... How can we trust the CPM is doing any good for the players if the players can't be picked for CPM
All I have seen is how either CPM's would like to re-run... which i agree one of you should but every election there needs to be a better filtering process, where new candidates have a chance the titles of Forum Warrior or Youtoober shouldn't effect the CPM decision Or CPM's endorsing some new runners shouldnt be allowed ... 'Hey, pick this guy! he shares all my opinions' .... I think any vote is going to be a tough call as there is big corps plus alt clones and then the Forum prom queens who will all add their opinion and their buddies will listen
Personally I think CCP needs to get involved and be seen to pick out players from the playerbase They can look at stats and activity times and maybe get an idea if players meet what they are looking for, maybe CCP could conduct interviews of the potential candidates.... Voting by the players is going to be pointless as this community isn't exactly huge, and too many of the community's opinions will reflect each other
Minmatar Demolitions Specialist
Plasma Cannon Pro
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
1196
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Posted - 2014.01.11 13:15:00 -
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I very clearly laid out my position in the link I sent you to. This is my current position based on discussion in many threads. It is a later post than any other I made on the topic. It represents a clear view how I stand on that issue. Do you understand this? Please stop misrepresenting my. It is dishonest.
It is quite clear I am talking about the redline in that old thread and the fact that they do not work fairly with the maps that we have. Which I clarify several times in posts within that thread. I say "redline" twice in the first paragraph alone.
I made one request for their removal in the OP which I meant as a reference to taking them out of the redline not the game. I worded it a little badly so clarified later in the thread as some people were confused. Also you need to listen to what I say. You keep just getting it set in your mind and no matter how I try to clarify my position you dodge it and try to find some way to make me say what you want to make me say. Stop it. It is not constructive.
I repeat myself here for you again. This is the post I linked you to. This is my opinion on this.
Quote:I absolutely want rail tanks to be a serious threat to dropships. To be a threat they need to hit hard as the window to hit us is small and they need range to keep us at bay. But doing that from the complete safety of the redline is not fair.
I would at this point make one single change to rail tanks. That they cannot engage the operational area of the map from the redline or close proximity to it. This means the objectives and their zones. let them hit the area near their redline to help a team push out if pushed back, but stop them killing people out in the burn zone trying to have a fair and fun fight by using the redline to run unrealistic builds and hide from retaliation.
Are you clear on my position? Do you need me to explain further?
Lets not disrail this thread.
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen
D3LTA FORC3
1380
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Posted - 2014.01.12 10:18:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote: How do you conduct a proper election with the ruling party still in a position to influence decision?! Don't call it an election then
LOL @ "Ruling party"
The idea that we have some "power" to "rule" or "govern" is so ridiculous there's not even any point in addressing it again, too many in this thread and elsewhere have already pointed out that we're an advisory/advocacy group and nothing more.
Also, we will absolutely be trying to influence the outcome of the election - but we'll be doing it through all the same means that every other player here has a right to wield. That is, endorsements of qualified candidates and open criticism against candidates that we don't believe are fit to serve. We've all worked waaaaaaaaayyyy too hard to get this far only to have a weak council replace us and not be able to pick up where we left off.
If we do our jobs right during the upcoming campaign season, we'll not only be replaced by individuals capable of continuing our work, we'll be replaced by individuals that will do an even better job at this than we have ourselves. I'll be the first to admit that we're not perfect and that there's many talented individuals throughout the community that deserve a chance to outshine our performance. They'll need to be equally fearless, prepared to work like dogs, and prepared for disappointment from CCP that will come in every flavor imaginable. Even during the best of times working with CCP can be stressful and none of us want anyone on the council that isn't capable of sticking out a term to the very end and handing it off to the next group that will do an even better job than CPM1.
The CSM has a long tradition of subsequent councils outshining those that come before them, building upon and iterating on the previous year's work and finding ways to improve communications with the community and to deepen their influence on CCP. I certainly hope that this tradition starts this spring with the CPM as well. I won't be running myself, but I'll be around as a resource to those that take our place, and make sure they have what they need to do a killer job.
All that to say, don't kid yourself, the CPM is not going to sit on the sideline with tape on our mouths and let a bunch of fools get elected and ruin what we've worked to build. In fact, there's many that have rightfully argued that the CPM-CCP relationship is still in its infancy, which makes electing a strong CPM1 all the more critical. It's not going to take any backroom handshakes or messing with electoral systems to do it though, the election will be more than fair. We simply have an obligation to speak our minds about who is and isn't fit to serve by the very fact that we take the future success of this institution seriously. |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
5491
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Posted - 2014.01.12 10:27:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:NAV HIV wrote: How do you conduct a proper election with the ruling party still in a position to influence decision?! Don't call it an election then LOL @ "Ruling party" The idea that we have some "power" to "rule" or "govern" is so ridiculous there's not even any point in addressing it again, too many in this thread and elsewhere have already pointed out that we're an advisory/advocacy group and nothing more. Also, we will absolutely be trying to influence the outcome of the election - but we'll be doing it through all the same means that every other player here has a right to wield. That is, endorsements of qualified candidates and open criticism against candidates that we don't believe are fit to serve. We've all worked waaaaaaaaayyyy too hard to get this far only to have a weak council replace us and not be able to pick up where we left off. If we do our jobs right during the upcoming campaign season, we'll not only be replaced by individuals capable of continuing our work, we'll be replaced by individuals that will do an even better job at this than we have ourselves. I'll be the first to admit that we're not perfect and that there's many talented individuals throughout the community that deserve a chance to outshine our performance. They'll need to be equally fearless, prepared to work like dogs, and prepared for disappointment from CCP that will come in every flavor imaginable. Even during the best of times working with CCP can be stressful and none of us want anyone on the council that isn't capable of sticking out a term to the very end and handing it off to the next group that will do an even better job than CPM1. The CSM has a long tradition of subsequent councils outshining those that come before them, building upon and iterating on the previous year's work and finding ways to improve communications with the community and to deepen their influence on CCP. I certainly hope that this tradition starts this spring with the CPM as well. I won't be running myself, but I'll be around as a resource to those that take our place, and make sure they have what they need to do a killer job. All that to say, don't kid yourself, the CPM is not going to sit on the sideline with tape on our mouths and let a bunch of fools get elected and ruin what we've worked to build. In fact, there's many that have rightfully argued that the CPM-CCP relationship is still in its infancy, which makes electing a strong CPM1 all the more critical. It's not going to take any backroom handshakes or messing with electoral systems to do it though, the election will be more than fair. We simply have an obligation to speak our minds about who is and isn't fit to serve by the very fact that we take the future success of this institution seriously. Oh god another postnaught. Can't you make a post shorter than 10 lines?
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Tuna > Tacos
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
11977
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Posted - 2014.01.12 10:30:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:NAV HIV wrote: How do you conduct a proper election with the ruling party still in a position to influence decision?! Don't call it an election then LOL @ "Ruling party" The idea that we have some "power" to "rule" or "govern" is so ridiculous there's not even any point in addressing it again, too many in this thread and elsewhere have already pointed out that we're an advisory/advocacy group and nothing more. Also, we will absolutely be trying to influence the outcome of the election - but we'll be doing it through all the same means that every other player here has a right to wield. That is, endorsements of qualified candidates and open criticism against candidates that we don't believe are fit to serve. We've all worked waaaaaaaaayyyy too hard to get this far only to have a weak council replace us and not be able to pick up where we left off. If we do our jobs right during the upcoming campaign season, we'll not only be replaced by individuals capable of continuing our work, we'll be replaced by individuals that will do an even better job at this than we have ourselves. I'll be the first to admit that we're not perfect and that there's many talented individuals throughout the community that deserve a chance to outshine our performance. They'll need to be equally fearless, prepared to work like dogs, and prepared for disappointment from CCP that will come in every flavor imaginable. Even during the best of times working with CCP can be stressful and none of us want anyone on the council that isn't capable of sticking out a term to the very end and handing it off to the next group that will do an even better job than CPM1. The CSM has a long tradition of subsequent councils outshining those that come before them, building upon and iterating on the previous year's work and finding ways to improve communications with the community and to deepen their influence on CCP. I certainly hope that this tradition starts this spring with the CPM as well. I won't be running myself, but I'll be around as a resource to those that take our place, and make sure they have what they need to do a killer job. All that to say, don't kid yourself, the CPM is not going to sit on the sideline with tape on our mouths and let a bunch of fools get elected and ruin what we've worked to build. In fact, there's many that have rightfully argued that the CPM-CCP relationship is still in its infancy, which makes electing a strong CPM1 all the more critical. It's not going to take any backroom handshakes or messing with electoral systems to do it though, the election will be more than fair. We simply have an obligation to speak our minds about who is and isn't fit to serve by the very fact that we take the future success of this institution seriously. Oh god another postnaught. Can't you make a post shorter than 10 lines?
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CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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Lorhak Gannarsein
1180
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Posted - 2014.01.12 10:56:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:Also, we will absolutely be trying to influence the outcome of the election - but we'll be doing it through all the same means that every other player here has a right to wield.
That little white tag does give you some more credibility than the rest of us have :P
PRO tanker and proud.
Number of PRO-turret HAVs killed w/ my permahardened MLT Blaster Gunny - 2 (so far xD)
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