DUST Search - Rail Rifle Might be OP

Jacques Cayton II wrote:

Shruikan Iceeye wrote:

jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:

Shruikan Iceeye wrote:

Soraya Xel wrote:

The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know.

Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat.

Absolutely not by far, Also the firing delay and its hipfire spread do nearly nothing to gimp it in cqc
I doubt youve ever used anything above the std variant

the RR seems op because everybody armor tanks

I would agree with that if i hadn't experienced S.T.D RRs absolutely EAT through shields like they weren't even there

I'm a heavy and I can out strafe a rail rifle. It's garbage compared to other rifles under 20m. If you believe otherwise then believe what you want but when a heavy doesn't complain about a weapon in cqc then it's fine. Personally I'd love more rr's on the field because of dat charge up time kills it in cqc

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Shruikan Iceeye 0uter.Heaven 142	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:50:00 - [1] - Quote It kills faster than any other rifle execpt the cr at 5m Scrambler excluded because its easy to overheat if you want to kill super quick That Pretty Motherfucker
Sir Dukey The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 289	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:52:00 - [2] - Quote Shruikan Iceeye wrote: It kills faster than any other rifle execpt the cr at 5m Scrambler excluded because its easy to overheat if you want to kill super quick we know but the caldari assault is going to make it more OP!!
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1011	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:54:00 - [3] - Quote The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know. Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 69	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:56:00 - [4] - Quote Combat rifle is crazy OP in cqc. GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2541	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:58:00 - [5] - Quote What weapon hasn't been given the title of OP? Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 74	Posted - 2014.01.09 01:59:00 - [6] - Quote Yeaaah... CR only 5m. Someone butt hurt at too many RR deaths? It may be OP compared to the Plasma Rifle, but vs Scr, CR it's in good company.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1636	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:00:00 - [7] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know. Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat. Near useless? At high levels, the kick is greatly reduced, and it actually has some excellent CQC viability. It's not meant for extended CQC, but it can easily drop a single target point blank if need be. Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Jason Pearson 3817	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:00:00 - [8] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Yeaaah... CR only 5m. Someone butt hurt at too many RR deaths? It may be OP compared to the Plasma Rifle, but vs Scr, CR it's in good company. Plasma Rifle still going strong though, it's more of an all rounder rather than good at specific. Guess we have balance. King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire \\ Bad Mathematician You're a total git, Jason. - Kingbabar
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1636	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:02:00 - [9] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: What weapon hasn't been given the title of OP? Current Flaylock. Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 69	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:03:00 - [10] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Asha Starwind wrote: Yeaaah... CR only 5m. Someone butt hurt at too many RR deaths? It may be OP compared to the Plasma Rifle, but vs Scr, CR it's in good company. Plasma Rifle still going strong though, it's more of an all rounder rather than good at specific. Guess we have balance. Balance between rifles.... Not balanced with other specialized weapons though :( GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
jerrmy12 kahoalii The Phoenix Federation 273	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:07:00 - [11] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: What weapon hasn't been given the title of OP? ScP I use a tablet so beware of typos
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5455	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:08:00 - [12] - Quote Shruikan Iceeye wrote: It kills faster than any other rifle execpt the cr at 5m Scrambler excluded because its easy to overheat if you want to kill super quick The CR is pretty ridiculously potent out to about 50m.... To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1191	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:19:00 - [13] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: What weapon hasn't been given the title of OP? The Plasma Cannon Fun > Realism
Shruikan Iceeye 0uter.Heaven 142	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:30:00 - [14] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know. Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat. Absolutely not by far, Also the firing delay and its hipfire spread do nearly nothing to gimp it in cqc I doubt youve ever used anything above the std variant That Pretty Motherfucker
jerrmy12 kahoalii The Phoenix Federation 275	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:32:00 - [15] - Quote Shruikan Iceeye wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know. Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat. Absolutely not by far, Also the firing delay and its hipfire spread do nearly nothing to gimp it in cqc I doubt youve ever used anything above the std variant the RR seems op because everybody armor tanks I use a tablet so beware of typos
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 3793	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:38:00 - [16] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Michael Arck wrote: What weapon hasn't been given the title of OP? ScP Is OP, no one complains about it because it's harder to use and so few use it, I've used them in the past and they're worse than the flaylock ever was. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 3 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3801	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:39:00 - [17] - Quote Just imagine what it will be like with a 10% rate of fire bonus or a 10% damage bonus PLUS Damage Mods QW1hcnIgTG9naSBGVFc=
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 3801	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:41:00 - [18] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Michael Arck wrote: What weapon hasn't been given the title of OP? ScP Is OP, no one complains about it because it's harder to use and so few use it, I've used them in the past and they're worse than the flaylock ever was. Didn't people complain about them back when you could snipe from the Line Harvest towers with them? QW1hcnIgTG9naSBGVFc=
Shruikan Iceeye 0uter.Heaven 142	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:41:00 - [19] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Shruikan Iceeye wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know. Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat. Absolutely not by far, Also the firing delay and its hipfire spread do nearly nothing to gimp it in cqc I doubt youve ever used anything above the std variant the RR seems op because everybody armor tanks I would agree with that if i hadn't experienced S.T.D RRs absolutely EAT through shields like they weren't even there That Pretty Motherfucker
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 3794	Posted - 2014.01.09 02:43:00 - [20] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Michael Arck wrote: What weapon hasn't been given the title of OP? ScP Is OP, no one complains about it because it's harder to use and so few use it, I've used them in the past and they're worse than the flaylock ever was. Didn't people complain about them back when you could snipe from the Line Harvest towers with them? Forgot about that, or repressed it more likely. shudders Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 3 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 75	Posted - 2014.01.09 03:05:00 - [21] - Quote Shruikan Iceeye wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Shruikan Iceeye wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know. Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat. Absolutely not by far, Also the firing delay and its hipfire spread do nearly nothing to gimp it in cqc I doubt youve ever used anything above the std variant the RR seems op because everybody armor tanks I would agree with that if i hadn't experienced S.T.D RRs absolutely EAT through shields like they weren't even there That's because it has high bullet damage, bias isn't going to matter to it against any suit below the overkill threshold, if it takes barely 5.2 shots to clear your shields unbiased and 5.72 shots biased it's still 6 shots.
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis CALSF 476	Posted - 2014.01.09 03:12:00 - [22] - Quote Shruikan Iceeye wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Shruikan Iceeye wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know. Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat. Absolutely not by far, Also the firing delay and its hipfire spread do nearly nothing to gimp it in cqc I doubt youve ever used anything above the std variant the RR seems op because everybody armor tanks I would agree with that if i hadn't experienced S.T.D RRs absolutely EAT through shields like they weren't even there I'm a heavy and I can out strafe a rail rifle. It's garbage compared to other rifles under 20m. If you believe otherwise then believe what you want but when a heavy doesn't complain about a weapon in cqc then it's fine. Personally I'd love more rr's on the field because of dat charge up time kills it in cqc We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Shruikan Iceeye 0uter.Heaven 143	Posted - 2014.01.09 03:17:00 - [23] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Shruikan Iceeye wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Shruikan Iceeye wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know. Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat. Absolutely not by far, Also the firing delay and its hipfire spread do nearly nothing to gimp it in cqc I doubt youve ever used anything above the std variant the RR seems op because everybody armor tanks I would agree with that if i hadn't experienced S.T.D RRs absolutely EAT through shields like they weren't even there That's because it has high bullet damage, bias isn't going to matter to it against any suit below the overkill threshold, if it takes barely 5.2 shots to clear your shields unbiased and 5.72 shots biased it's still 6 shots. Thank you thats all im tryna say That Pretty Motherfucker
Akdhar Saif Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 151	Posted - 2014.01.09 03:45:00 - [24] - Quote Correct me if I'm wrong but when I go ADV SMG vs an ADV RR at 2ms shouldn't I win? It's happened a couple of times and its left me..confused. Wouldn't my SMG be in effective range while their RR is way out of it?
HYENAKILLER X AGGRESSIVE TYPE 469	Posted - 2014.01.09 03:45:00 - [25] - Quote Shruikan Iceeye wrote: It kills faster than any other rifle execpt the cr at 5m Scrambler excluded because its easy to overheat if you want to kill super quick At longer distances and at proto in groups it seems that way. The truth is it can hit you from way out. But cqc ide take a gek. Ide pit the duvolle or boundless cr against it at their optimal ranges. Its hard to fight with cr, and cr makes you forget how to ar but step into other rifles optimal range and rr boils down to player. You are welcome for my leadership *Proven Aggressive Type
Shruikan Iceeye 0uter.Heaven 143	Posted - 2014.01.09 03:50:00 - [26] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Shruikan Iceeye wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Shruikan Iceeye wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know. Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat. Absolutely not by far, Also the firing delay and its hipfire spread do nearly nothing to gimp it in cqc I doubt youve ever used anything above the std variant the RR seems op because everybody armor tanks I would agree with that if i hadn't experienced S.T.D RRs absolutely EAT through shields like they weren't even there I'm a heavy and I can out strafe a rail rifle. It's garbage compared to other rifles under 20m. If you believe otherwise then believe what you want but when a heavy doesn't complain about a weapon in cqc then it's fine. Personally I'd love more rr's on the field because of dat charge up time kills it in cqc 1. Aiming the weapon is entirely up to the user. 2. The charge up time is Nothing. Only at high levels of competition does each weapon have to be used in it's niche That Pretty Motherfucker
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 203	Posted - 2014.01.09 04:13:00 - [27] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Shruikan Iceeye wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Shruikan Iceeye wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know. Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat. Absolutely not by far, Also the firing delay and its hipfire spread do nearly nothing to gimp it in cqc I doubt youve ever used anything above the std variant the RR seems op because everybody armor tanks I would agree with that if i hadn't experienced S.T.D RRs absolutely EAT through shields like they weren't even there I'm a heavy and I can out strafe a rail rifle. It's garbage compared to other rifles under 20m. If you believe otherwise then believe what you want but when a heavy doesn't complain about a weapon in cqc then it's fine. Personally I'd love more rr's on the field because of dat charge up time kills it in cqc My scanner and pre-primed assault rail rifle would beg to disagree. You better get me quick (or have a logi with a rep toll on you) or you're toast -- you'll virtually never have an opportunity to surprise me and that means no charge up time. I'm not saying that I kill every heavy I run into, but rather I win more than I lose when it comes to 1:1 encounters -- and it's not strafe speed, but rather who has the better gun game (or logi) that decides the battles.
Supernus Gigas Star Giants 42	Posted - 2014.01.09 04:36:00 - [28] - Quote The Rail Rifle, to me, seems to be more effective at CQC than I think it should. Heck, when I first heard about CCP adding them to the game a while back, I imagined them to be a long-range, low RoF, high damage, DMR type weapon. I think they should be changed to a DMR weapon, but I don't honestly think that radical of a change would ever be implemented. WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE SUCH TERRIBLE IDEAS ALL THE TIME?
xXCleopatra FlippantXx Red Star. EoN. 27	Posted - 2014.01.09 04:45:00 - [29] - Quote All 8/10 of my deaths are from rail rifles kinda hate them ya
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1168	Posted - 2014.01.09 05:19:00 - [30] - Quote I may as well throw away alk my geks, maybe even duvalled too because of the rail rifle. Why settle for less range when your only drawback is a tiny charge time? "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy

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