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          Shruikan Iceeye 
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          It kills faster than any other rifle execpt the cr at 5m Scrambler excluded because its easy to overheat if you want to kill super quick
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          Sir Dukey 
          The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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          Shruikan Iceeye wrote:It kills faster than any other rifle execpt the cr at 5m Scrambler excluded because its easy to overheat if you want to kill super quick  
  we know but the caldari assault is going to make it more OP!! | 
      
      
      
          
          Soraya Xel 
          The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
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          The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know.
  Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat.
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          Marad''er 
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          Combat rifle is crazy OP in cqc.
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          Michael Arck 
          Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
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          What weapon hasn't been given the title of OP?
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          Asha Starwind 
          VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
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          Yeaaah... CR only 5m. Someone butt hurt at too many RR deaths? It may be OP compared to the Plasma Rifle, but vs Scr, CR it's in good company. | 
      
      
      
          
          Ghost Kaisar 
          Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising
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          Soraya Xel wrote:The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know.
  Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat.  
  Near useless?
  At high levels, the kick is greatly reduced, and it actually has some excellent CQC viability. It's not meant for extended CQC, but it can easily drop a single target point blank if need be.
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          Jason Pearson 
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          Asha Starwind wrote:Yeaaah... CR only 5m. Someone butt hurt at too many RR deaths? It may be OP compared to the Plasma Rifle, but vs Scr, CR it's in good company.  
  Plasma Rifle still going strong though, it's more of an all rounder rather than good at specific.
  Guess we have balance.
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          Ghost Kaisar 
          Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising
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          Michael Arck wrote:What weapon hasn't been given the title of OP?  
 
  Current Flaylock.
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          Marad''er 
          Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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          Jason Pearson wrote:Asha Starwind wrote:Yeaaah... CR only 5m. Someone butt hurt at too many RR deaths? It may be OP compared to the Plasma Rifle, but vs Scr, CR it's in good company.  Plasma Rifle still going strong though, it's more of an all rounder rather than good at specific. Guess we have balance.   Balance between rifles....
  Not balanced with other specialized weapons though :(
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          jerrmy12 kahoalii 
          The Phoenix Federation
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          Michael Arck wrote:What weapon hasn't been given the title of OP?   ScP
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          True Adamance 
          Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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          Shruikan Iceeye wrote:It kills faster than any other rifle execpt the cr at 5m Scrambler excluded because its easy to overheat if you want to kill super quick  
  The CR is pretty ridiculously potent out to about 50m....
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          Mobius Kaethis 
          Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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          Michael Arck wrote:What weapon hasn't been given the title of OP?  
  The Plasma Cannon
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          Shruikan Iceeye 
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          Soraya Xel wrote:The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know.
  Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat.   Absolutely not by far, Also the firing delay and its hipfire spread do nearly nothing to gimp it in cqc I doubt youve ever used anything above the std variant
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          jerrmy12 kahoalii 
          The Phoenix Federation
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          Shruikan Iceeye wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know.
  Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat.  Absolutely not by far, Also the firing delay and its hipfire spread do nearly nothing to gimp it in cqc I doubt youve ever used anything above the std variant   the RR seems op because everybody armor tanks
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          Sinboto Simmons 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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          jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Michael Arck wrote:What weapon hasn't been given the title of OP?  ScP   Is OP, no one complains about it because it's harder to use and so few use it, I've used them in the past and they're worse than the flaylock ever was.
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          Patrick57 
          Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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          Just imagine what it will be like with a 10% rate of fire bonus or a 10% damage bonus PLUS Damage Mods  
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          Patrick57 
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          Sinboto Simmons wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Michael Arck wrote:What weapon hasn't been given the title of OP?  ScP  Is OP, no one complains about it because it's harder to use and so few use it, I've used them in the past and they're worse than the flaylock ever was.   Didn't people complain about them back when you could snipe from the Line Harvest towers with them?  
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          Shruikan Iceeye 
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          jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Shruikan Iceeye wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know.
  Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat.  Absolutely not by far, Also the firing delay and its hipfire spread do nearly nothing to gimp it in cqc I doubt youve ever used anything above the std variant  the RR seems op because everybody armor tanks   I would agree with that if i hadn't experienced S.T.D RRs absolutely EAT through shields like they weren't even there
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          Sinboto Simmons 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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          Patrick57 wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Michael Arck wrote:What weapon hasn't been given the title of OP?  ScP  Is OP, no one complains about it because it's harder to use and so few use it, I've used them in the past and they're worse than the flaylock ever was.  Didn't people complain about them back when you could snipe from the Line Harvest towers with them?     Forgot about that, or repressed it more likely. *shudders*
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          Asha Starwind 
          VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
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          Shruikan Iceeye wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Shruikan Iceeye wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know.
  Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat.  Absolutely not by far, Also the firing delay and its hipfire spread do nearly nothing to gimp it in cqc I doubt youve ever used anything above the std variant  the RR seems op because everybody armor tanks  I would agree with that if i hadn't experienced S.T.D RRs absolutely EAT through shields like they weren't even there  
  That's because it has high bullet damage, bias isn't going to matter to it against any suit below the overkill threshold, if it takes barely 5.2 shots to clear your shields unbiased and 5.72 shots biased it's still 6 shots. | 
      
      
      
          
          Jacques Cayton II 
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          Shruikan Iceeye wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Shruikan Iceeye wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know.
  Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat.  Absolutely not by far, Also the firing delay and its hipfire spread do nearly nothing to gimp it in cqc I doubt youve ever used anything above the std variant  the RR seems op because everybody armor tanks  I would agree with that if i hadn't experienced S.T.D RRs absolutely EAT through shields like they weren't even there   I'm a heavy and I can out strafe a rail rifle. It's garbage compared to other rifles under 20m. If you believe otherwise then believe what you want but when a heavy doesn't complain about a weapon in cqc then it's fine. Personally I'd love more rr's on the field because of dat charge up time kills it in cqc
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          Shruikan Iceeye 
          0uter.Heaven
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          Asha Starwind wrote:Shruikan Iceeye wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Shruikan Iceeye wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know.
  Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat.  Absolutely not by far, Also the firing delay and its hipfire spread do nearly nothing to gimp it in cqc I doubt youve ever used anything above the std variant  the RR seems op because everybody armor tanks  I would agree with that if i hadn't experienced S.T.D RRs absolutely EAT through shields like they weren't even there  That's because it has high bullet damage, bias isn't going to matter to it against any suit below the overkill threshold, if it takes barely 5.2 shots to clear your shields unbiased and 5.72 shots biased it's still 6 shots.   
  Thank you thats all im tryna say
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          Akdhar Saif 
          Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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          Correct me if I'm wrong but when I go ADV SMG vs an ADV RR at 2ms shouldn't I win? It's happened a couple of times and its left me..confused. Wouldn't my SMG be in effective range while their RR is way out of it? | 
      
      
      
          
          HYENAKILLER X 
          AGGRESSIVE TYPE
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          Shruikan Iceeye wrote:It kills faster than any other rifle execpt the cr at 5m Scrambler excluded because its easy to overheat if you want to kill super quick   At longer distances and at proto in groups it seems that way.
  The truth is it can hit you from way out. But cqc ide take a gek.
  Ide pit the duvolle or boundless cr against it at their optimal ranges.
  Its hard to fight with cr, and cr makes you forget how to ar but step into other rifles optimal range and rr boils down to player.
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          Shruikan Iceeye 
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          Jacques Cayton II wrote:Shruikan Iceeye wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Shruikan Iceeye wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know.
  Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat.  Absolutely not by far, Also the firing delay and its hipfire spread do nearly nothing to gimp it in cqc I doubt youve ever used anything above the std variant  the RR seems op because everybody armor tanks  I would agree with that if i hadn't experienced S.T.D RRs absolutely EAT through shields like they weren't even there  I'm a heavy and I can out strafe a rail rifle. It's garbage compared to other rifles under 20m. If you believe otherwise then believe what you want but when a heavy doesn't complain about a weapon in cqc then it's fine. Personally I'd love more rr's on the field because of dat charge up time kills it in cqc   1. Aiming the weapon is entirely up to the user. 2. The charge up time is Nothing. Only at high levels of competition does each weapon have to be used in it's niche
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          Leadfoot10 
          Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
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          Jacques Cayton II wrote:Shruikan Iceeye wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Shruikan Iceeye wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know.
  Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat.  Absolutely not by far, Also the firing delay and its hipfire spread do nearly nothing to gimp it in cqc I doubt youve ever used anything above the std variant  the RR seems op because everybody armor tanks  I would agree with that if i hadn't experienced S.T.D RRs absolutely EAT through shields like they weren't even there  I'm a heavy and I can out strafe a rail rifle. It's garbage compared to other rifles under 20m. If you believe otherwise then believe what you want but when a heavy doesn't complain about a weapon in cqc then it's fine. Personally I'd love more rr's on the field because of dat charge up time kills it in cqc  
  My scanner and pre-primed assault rail rifle would beg to disagree.
  You better get me quick (or have a logi with a rep toll on you) or you're toast -- you'll virtually never have an opportunity to surprise me and that means no charge up time.
  I'm not saying that I kill every heavy I run into, but rather I win more than I lose when it comes to 1:1 encounters -- and it's not strafe speed, but rather who has the better gun game (or logi) that decides the battles. | 
      
      
      
          
          Supernus Gigas 
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          The Rail Rifle, to me, seems to be more effective at CQC than I think it should. Heck, when I first heard about CCP adding them to the game a while back, I imagined them to be a long-range, low RoF, high damage, DMR type weapon. I think they should be changed to a DMR weapon, but I don't honestly think that radical of a change would ever be implemented.
 
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          xXCleopatra FlippantXx 
          Red Star. EoN.
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          All 8/10 of my deaths are from rail rifles  kinda hate them ya | 
      
      
      
          
          Vermaak Doe 
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          I may as well throw away alk my geks, maybe even duvalled too because of the rail rifle. Why settle for less range when your only drawback is a tiny charge time?
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          Atiim 
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          jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Michael Arck wrote:What weapon hasn't been given the title of OP?  ScP   Actually, there was a thread about SCPs being OP a while back.
  I lost the link though.
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          Tectonic Fusion 
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          Michael Arck wrote:What weapon hasn't been given the title of OP?   Sleek Locus Grenades.
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          BL4CKST4R 
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          RR is OP because it has a longer range to apply the same damage every other gun does. If it had lower DPS then if would be balanced. If I had a gun that did 1000 damage In 1 shot at 3 meters and a not her gun that did 1000 damage in 1 shot at 6 meters? Which one is better? Obviously then second one because it does the exact same thing as gun 1 but for a longer range. This is the RR. | 
      
      
      
          
          Soraya Xel 
          The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
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          Shruikan Iceeye wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know.
  Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat.  Absolutely not by far, Also the firing delay and its hipfire spread do nearly nothing to gimp it in cqc I doubt youve ever used anything above the std variant  
  You may doubt all you wish, but you'd be wrong. I have proto rails, proficiency... 4 currently. I have to switch to an SMG for close quarters.
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          Joel II X 
          Dah Gods O Bacon
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          Michael Arck wrote:What weapon hasn't been given the title of OP?   Plasma Cannon, Nova Knives, probably Scrambler Pistol, um, I think that's it.
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          Arkena Wyrnspire 
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          Jason Pearson wrote:Asha Starwind wrote:Yeaaah... CR only 5m. Someone butt hurt at too many RR deaths? It may be OP compared to the Plasma Rifle, but vs Scr, CR it's in good company.  Plasma Rifle still going strong though, it's more of an all rounder rather than good at specific. Guess we have balance.  
  Eh? If you want an all rounded weapon just use a combat rifle. It does more damage than the AR, is more accurate, sprays more rounds so you're more likely to hit something, has a longer range, has a scope, has excellent hipfire... Also it does more damage. Because seriously, that thing does a LOT of damage.
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          devonus durga 
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          I run gek 38s so I am biased, but I decided to sho with math why RR are op, and beat AR in close ranged, when they should not by canon/intention. These figures are using the standard variants of each. The difference may be greater or lesser in adv. And proto. Variants. I use a term call hose time to describe the amount of time it takes to fire a whole clip/magazine.
  AR DPS= 435. RR DPS = 432 Ar hose time= 4.8. RR hose time= 5.6 Damage per magazine Ar =2040 RR =2400 Accuracy: Ar= 55.1. RR = 58.26
  What gives the RR the edge is its increased damage per magazine and extended duration to spray a d pray, as well as its greater hip firei accuracy. An Ar will get less bullets on target due to its decreased hip fire accuracy, and will have to reload sooner while an RR can keep spraying bullets in his face. Even if you factor in the .25 charge up time the RR only loses 108 damage at the start of the engagement while gaining 344 after an Ar would need to reload. I can only assume these numbers become greater with higher tier rail rifles. That coupled with the higher effective range and lack of dispersion while aiming down sites makes them much More powerful then Ar s in just about all circumstances.
  Please note I did all this math by hand and would appreciate someone checking my work, and please forgive any formatting or spelling errors, this tablet hates me.
  As far as my reccomendations to make the RR function more in line with e role it was Intended, I think simply reducing the hip fire accuracy would make it perform more in line with the role it was designed for, much like tactile Ars are very inaccurate fired from the hip. Reducing its ammo capacity or ROF some might also make it less effective in cqc, however I think that might nerf the gun more then needed.
 
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          Pvt Numnutz 
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          I'm trying to see the over poweredness of the rail rifle. Its very good at its optimal, which is the same as the scrambler rifle, although with the charge shot of the scrambler and on an amarr suit with skills the scram deals much more damage and a lot faster than the RR due to charge shots.  I don't run damage mods and I'm thinking this is probably why, any suit with decent shields takes about half my clip to get through. I have prof 3. Armor does go down pretty quick but isn't that what the gun was designed for? When I have to use my RR CQC I usually get out gunned, geks beat me 9 times out of 10 unless they were already pretty hurt. Combat rifle beats me always, even at range, which still confuses me.  I also thought that aim assist would make it over powered, since I have mine off I miss some shots and stop firing to readjust my aim then have the charge delay. If every shot hit because magnetic bullets and such then I could see it being op. 
  I don't really care tho, its a caldari weapon and that's why I use it. I just hope gallente QQ doesn't Nerf it into uselessness....
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          devonus durga 
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          Its mostly that it has a higher degree of error in cqc, has equivalent DPS to an Ar, but has far greater range then an Ar. Its op BC it can perform the same job as an Ar in cqc, and also snipe ya from 100m away. | 
      
      
      
          
          CUSE TOWN333 
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          Soraya Xel wrote:The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know.
  Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat.   you must not have ever meet me in close quarters with my rail than cause it hipfire rag dolls people like a bag of hammers.
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          jerrmy12 kahoalii 
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          Shruikan Iceeye wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Shruikan Iceeye wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:The scrambler rifle is by far, a faster killer, so you really can't exclude it. The rail kinda competes with it, you know.
  Note that the big weakness of the rail rifle is that it's near useless in close quarters. That and the firing delay, I feel, balance it out for mid-long range combat.  Absolutely not by far, Also the firing delay and its hipfire spread do nearly nothing to gimp it in cqc I doubt youve ever used anything above the std variant  the RR seems op because everybody armor tanks  I would agree with that if i hadn't experienced S.T.D RRs absolutely EAT through shields like they weren't even there   Thats a shield problem, they need uigher hp thzn 401 because they rely on it
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          Sinboto Simmons 
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          Joel II X wrote:Michael Arck wrote:What weapon hasn't been given the title of OP?  Plasma Cannon, Nova Knives, probably Scrambler Pistol, um, I think that's it. Maybe Laser Rifle, but it may have. Don't remember.   There was a NK is OP thread a while back.
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          OZAROW 
          Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
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          Might be?
 SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4 
Oh an a middle finger to Fagqueera Bleuetta=ƒÆ¬ 
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          Lorhak Gannarsein 
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          Joel II X wrote:Michael Arck wrote:What weapon hasn't been given the title of OP?  Plasma Cannon, Nova Knives, probably Scrambler Pistol, um, I think that's it. Maybe Laser Rifle, but it may have. Don't remember.  
  Laser rifle?
  Oh God... Don't remind me. You must be new.
  dat Manus Peak Ambush o.O
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Number of PRO-turret HAVs killed w/ my permahardened MLT Blaster Gunny - 2 (so far xD) 
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          Tectonic Fusion 
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          Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Joel II X wrote:Michael Arck wrote:What weapon hasn't been given the title of OP?  Plasma Cannon, Nova Knives, probably Scrambler Pistol, um, I think that's it. Maybe Laser Rifle, but it may have. Don't remember.  Laser rifle? Oh God... Don't remind me. You must be new. dat Manus Peak Ambush o.O   Back in the day, we use to melt heavies in .01 seconds with a preheated laser rifle.
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